Did the Communists win the Cold War in America? In this eye-opening Based Camp episode, Malcolm and Simone Collins dive deep into the 1963 list of Communist Goals for the United States (compiled by FBI agent Cleon Skousen and entered into the Congressional Record). From infiltrating schools and media, discrediting the family, promoting degeneracy, and weaponizing psychiatry and art — they check off how many of these goals have been achieved and what it means for modern culture, politics, and the future. This conversation covers the long march through the institutions, Yuri Bezmenov’s demoralization playbook, Cuba’s ongoing role, why the “Red Scare” was more accurate than we were taught, and how a new tech-right counter-movement can fight back using AI, culture, and high-agency communities. If you’ve ever wondered why everything feels broken — ugly art, broken families, captured institutions, endless culture war — this episode connects the dots. Episode Transcript Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello, Simone. I’m excited to be here with you today. Today we are going to be asking the question, did the communists win with their goals in the United States? So this rabbit hole was prompted for me by a Chris Williamson clip where he had on a guest, Isabel Brown, who was going over a list that she reported to be the communist goals for the United States circa 1960. She sort of misstated this list implying that it was read into the Congressional Record by the Communist Party. It was not. It was read into the record by a Republican anti-communist, and was a review of the notes on the Communist Party and their goals, circa 1963- Hmm ... by an FBI agent, Cleon Skousen. So not a crackpot or anything like this. This was an FBI agent whose goal was in the FBI, was to track and to understand the Communist Party’s goals circa 1963. Simone Collins: All right? Okay. Yeah, [00:01:00] and it’s not like they were incredibly secret about their goals. So this can’t be that inaccurate. Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Well, you’re gonna be shocked by this list. You’re gonna be shocked. Really? She read a few of them. And I was like, “I need to go into the full thing.” Yes. “I need to look up the history of this list.” Like, I’m not gonna go over every single one of the points that he had read into it, because some of them would just get boring. But we’re going to have enough material to shock you. Oh, gosh. So let’s... And I’m not gonna be reading them in order either. Okay. So let’s start here, okay? “Transfer some of the power of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychologists can understand or treat.” What? This was the 1960s, early 1960s. Psychiatrists weren’t even a thing at that point. L- not, like, commonly. Simone Collins: Oh, wow. Yeah. [00:02:00] Did we lose the Cold War? We lost the Cold War. We lost the Cold War. We lost the Malcolm Collins: Cold... W- g- when I read through this, you’re gonna be like, “We lost the Cold War.” We were just- What? ... psy-oped into believing we won. I, I almost at the end of this, like, believe that there’s like a communist utopia in y- Russia right now, and that’s where we’ve been sending all our defrauded Somali dollars. Apparently. Like, the... Yeah. And, and that outside the US, everything’s still going and we’ve just been psy-oped into believing that the Cold War is over and that we won to make us happy. For Simone Collins: real? Malcolm Collins: What is happening? I don’t know if I’m ready for this. Speaker 7: Oh my God. Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon. Privet svitya, Dad. My son is a communist. Malcolm Collins: Okay, next. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive [00:03:00] control over those who oppose communist goals. Consider the way that they’ve used things like trans mental health laws to achieve other goals they have later down on this list. Octavian Collins: Huh. Malcolm Collins: First, given that this does seem to have been the plan, it’s a pretty clever plan, right? Simone Collins: No, yeah. If you, if you go, we, we rewind to the 1950s, 1960s, like, all right, how do we take out these... It is, yeah, I mean, it’s, it’s incredibly clever. I, I never would’ve thought of it. But in terms of destroying a country from the inside I... You know, there’s this one episode in earlier Doctor Who where the Doctor has this, like, plan where he’s like, “Oh, I know how to, like, single-handedly take down this prime minister.” And he, standing next to her, like, turns to a journalist who’s always there, or who, who is also there, and says, “She looks tired.” And that’s supposed to be like, that’s the end of her career. He just ended it by [00:04:00] saying that and, like, sowed this doubt. But this is so much more, like, this is the real version of that where, like, Russia was like, “Oh, that’s that’s not just you being a, a, a dick. It, it’s a mental health thing that is to be systematically- Well, so I should note here- ... defended” ... he is Malcolm Collins: not, he is not talking about Russia’s goals for the United States. These were the goals of the American Communist Party at the time, how they were going to dismantle the United States. Simone Collins: That is so... It’s, ‘cause, but then why? Why would you... I mean, ‘cause presumably the goal- So as was- ... of destabilizing the US means that we, then they can take over. But what is left to take over once you’ve done that to a country? Malcolm Collins: Well, they wanted to sell us out to the communists in Russia. We’ll go over this. It didn’t work out their way. But they have achieved all of their other goals other than that one. It really seems to be about destroying the United States above all else and destroying the institutions- That were most resistant to them- Mm ... specifically religious institutions. And we’ll- So it’s not about Simone Collins: brokering in some new age or transition, it’s just out of hatred for the United [00:05:00] States. Malcolm Collins: Mm. I mean, there does appear to be a new age or transition. It’s the communist order, right? Like, they’ve got to break down the existing social structure before they can create a new one or offer a new one. Hmm. Hmm. We’ll even go into how they plan to run their revolution and everything like that. Well, what Simone Collins: good is a communist citizen if they’re, like, crippled by anxiety and, and statutorily unable to not work? Because then they can’t fight Malcolm Collins: back against the government. Simone Collins: Yeah, but isn’t it... I guess in a, a post AGI world, a post singularity world, you don’t need workers. Like, the perfect communist state that has never been tried needs a lot of- Communists Malcolm Collins: didn’t need their workers to work hard, Simone. Like, I, I think you’re confused about this. Socialism involves- Communists treat their workers like slaves. Like, that’s the way communist states have always operated. Oh. They don’t actually need the- So I guess it was Simone Collins: just, there was a plan to rug pull, like systematically, mentally drive people insane. Well, how about we Malcolm Collins: go through all of the plans and then you can judge? Okay. Yeah, I, well, I would... Yes. Simone Collins: Yeah. Okay, let’s try to understand this better. Okay. Okay. Next Malcolm Collins: here, okay? Discredit the family as an [00:06:00] institution, encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. Octavian Collins: Oh, boy. Malcolm Collins: By the way, if you’re unfamiliar with the legal change of the United States in post 1960s not only has promiscuity obviously become very popular, The New York Times regularly writing about polyamory and stuff like this, and but the idea of easy divorce has become way, way, way easier. And there has been explicit attacks, like BLM saw the insti- the family unit as one of their core things that they wanted to target and discredit. Okay. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks, and the retarding of children to the suppressive influence of parents. The, Simone Collins: the retarding of children to the suppressive influence- Yeah, basically Malcolm Collins: they’re like- ... of parents ... we need a way to retard children and then we’ll- They must retard the children ... blame it on the parents. I love, I love that wording We need a way to Simone Collins: break the school system, and then Malcolm Collins: we’ll blame parents on the results of [00:07:00] that. That is so good. And every time somebody’s like, “Well, what about the parents?” Right? You know they’re running a communist op. They’re running a communist op. Come on, guys. I always hate that, that whiny, “Ooh, what about the parents?” Mm. It’s like, look, obviously par... It, it’s really about the family culture. Like, the parents cannot draconianly police everything a kid does. They need to create a culture where the negatives of society don’t get their hooks in the kid to the same extent. But by creating this learned helplessness, communists were able to degrade portions of our society. Okay, next. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures. A- again, note here, I am not editorializing these. I am not... This is what was written, read into the Congressional Record, okay? Simone Collins: Well, I guess that explains the witch hunt that took place in that sense, right? Wasn’t there a big blacklist because there was this, this i- i- intense fear of people taking over the media? So it sounds like this was- And they did internalized and taken seriously. Malcolm Collins: They did take over [00:08:00] the media. I mean, we’ve seen this today, right? You know? Yeah. Thi