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  1. Elon Musk $1.25T SpaceX + xAI merger, How to Get DPI in 2026 w/ David Zhou | Ep23

    11 FEB

    Elon Musk $1.25T SpaceX + xAI merger, How to Get DPI in 2026 w/ David Zhou | Ep23

    Space, AI, SaaS carnage, secondary liquidity, and the biggest merger of all time.Welcome to Episode 23 of Trading Places — and this one covers everything from venture DPI math to Mars colonization strategy.This week, Dave McClure, Aman Verjee, and returning guest David Zhou break down:🚀 The $1.25T SpaceX + xAI merger📉 Why SaaS multiples just collapsed💰 How VCs can generate DPI before year 10🧠 The future of AI infrastructure (data centers in space?)📊 What secret “stallions” investors should actually buy🧾 Why most VC funds have 0 DPI at year 7Timestamps:00:00 – cold open00:53 – [ News ]02:03 – $1.25T merger: xAI + SpaceX 🚀05:33 – SaaSpocalypse 📉💣13:46 – $68B → $11B: Figma slides 🛝17:30 – Tether $20B backpedal 🕺19:35 – ElevenLabs $11B valuation 🗣️21:00 – Cerebras $23B benchmark 🤖24:48 – [ Interview: David Zhou 2.0 ]25:35 – DPI or ☠️32:38 – why fund cycles are broken ⛓️‍💥37:42 – how to get DPI before IPO 💼48:11 – what nobody tells GPs 🤔53:07 – SPVs are everywhere 📦56:47 – the 5 types of unicorns 🦄1:09:22 – [ Valuation Corner: SpaceX + xAI ]1:09:30 – $1.25T merger examined 🧐1:12:28 – East India bull case for SpaceX 🐂1:16:20 – the Tesla puzzle piece 🧩1:20:42 – investors weigh in 🏋️1:27:38 – Dave singing + second takes[ links ][ invest = https://practicalvc.com ][ trading places socials = www.linktr.ee/tradingplacespod ][david zhou =   / davidjzhou   | https://x.com/cupazhou ] [aman verjee =   / aman-verjee   | https://x.com/amanverjee ] [dave mcclure =   / davemcclure   | https://x.com/davemcclure ] *This content is for informational purposes only and should not be considered investment advice. #venturecapital #spacexxai #mergersandacquisitions #tradingplacespod #davemcclure #amanverjee

    1 h y 29 min
  2. xAI SpaceX merger, LatAm 2026 IPOs, Anurag Chandra wisdom from managing pension funds & FOs | Ep22

    4 FEB

    xAI SpaceX merger, LatAm 2026 IPOs, Anurag Chandra wisdom from managing pension funds & FOs | Ep22

    Welcome back to Trading Places — the terrible, very bad, absolutely horrible VC secondaries podcast with Dave McClure and Aman Verjee. This week is a full-spectrum market tour: the latest rumors swirling around Elon’s empire (SpaceX + Tesla + xAI), the mega-rounds and IPO chess games of Anthropic + OpenAI, the reality check hitting public SaaS multiples reported by Jamin Ball, and a deep dive into secondaries, LP liquidity, and why DPI is suddenly the only thing anyone cares about. We’re joined by Anurag Chandra (operator → investor → allocator) for a rare look inside how real capital allocators think: risk budgets, time horizons, pension constraints, and why governance + incentives matter more than “manager genius.” Then we head to Valuation Corner LATAM with Karin from the Practical VC team for a breakdown of Latin America unicorns, the IPO window reopening, and what could be next after PicPay’s IPO — plus why Brazil’s Pix changed the game. Timestamps: 0:00 – cold open 00:53 – [ news ] 1:13 – Elon Inc: xAI + SpaceX + Tesla 🚀 6:06 – Anthropic doubles to $350B 💰 8:16 – OpenAI Q4 IPO 🏁 12:25 – Ethos Technologies $200M US IPO 🔔 13:55 – AI eats SaaS 🍽️ 16:00 – Kevin Warsh Fed chair nod 🪑 19:04 – Waymo $110B valuation 🚕 21:37 – Social media goes on trial 👩🏽‍⚖️ 24:11 – MoltBook viral swarm AI 🦞 30:31 – [ intvw: Anurag Chandra ] 32:05 – $2B VC money managed 💪 33:12 – Family office fundamentals 💼 37:40 – San Jose Pension Fund success 🙌 38:17 – Future of San Jose 🔮 1:01:32 – [ val corner: PicPay $2.5B IPO ] 1:02:07 – Analysis: LatAm exit market & liquidity history 1:03:43 – top LatAm unicorns 🦄 1:11:44 – PicPay & fintech competition 1:17:46 – second takes [ links ] [ invest = https://practicalvc.com ] [ trading places socials = www.linktr.ee/tradingplacespod ] [ anurag chandra = https://www.linkedin.com/in/anchandra/ ] [ karin tenenboim = https://www.linkedin.com/in/ktenenboim/ | https://x.com/LadyChutzpa ] [ aman verjee = https://www.linkedin.com/in/aman-verjee | https://x.com/amanverjee ] [ dave mcclure = https://www.linkedin.com/in/davemcclure | https://x.com/davemcclure ] *This content is for informational purposes only and should not be considered investment advice. #secondarymarkets #secondaries #venturecapital #tradingplacespod #davemcclure #amanverjee

    1 h y 18 min
  3. OpenAI Path To Profitability, Anduril Valuation, & India Unicorns | Qapita Ravi Ravulaparthi | Ep21

    28 ENE

    OpenAI Path To Profitability, Anduril Valuation, & India Unicorns | Qapita Ravi Ravulaparthi | Ep21

    In this episode of Trading Places, Dave McClure and Aman Verjee break down what’s driving markets right now, and what it means for liquidity in private tech.They’re joined by Ravi Ravulaparthi (CEO & Co-Founder, Qapita).Together, they unpack what’s actually happening across IPOs, secondaries, SPVs, and late-stage price discovery: • Why public markets rallied and what’s underwriting the optimism 📈• EquipmentShare’s strong IPO vs BitGo’s weak debut (and what investors are rewarding) 🏋️🟠• Capital One buying Brex at $5.15B a “down round exit” that’s still a real outcome 🤝• Secondaries getting institutionalized (EQT–Coller) + Evercore’s volume signals 💰• Pinegrove’s $2.2B venture secondaries raise and what it implies for DPI 💸• Zipline’s $7.6B valuation + the hard path to real-world drone delivery 🛩️• SPVs scaling fast (Sydecar at $4B AUA) and why they’re becoming default infrastructure 🏦• OpenAI’s move toward ads and the principles they claim will govern it 📸• Qapita’s playbook: equity management + secondary infrastructure across India/Singapore → US 🌎• Valuation Corner: Anduril - hardware + software in defense tech, and the $14B → $31B step-up 🛡️If you’re tracking IPO windows, secondary liquidity, SPVs, and how private markets are evolving in 2026, this episode is a clean map of where the pressure (and opportunity) is building.Timestamps00:00 – cold open[ tech & vc news ]00:36 – Why public markets bounced 📈03:18 – EquipmentShare $7.2B strong IPO 🏋️03:51 – BitGo $2B weak IPO 🟠06:15 – Capital One acquires Brex $5.15B 🤝08:55 – EQT buys Coller Capital for $3.7B 💰11:02 – Pinegrove raises $2.2B 💸12:00 – Zipline $7.6B valuation 🛩️13:21 – Sydecar hits $4B AUA 🏦15:39 – OpenAI starts ads 📸18:11 – [ intvw: Ravi Ravulaparthi / Qapita ]18:50 – From Singapore to USA 🇸🇬➡️🇺🇸18:52 – What Qapita does 🧐21:48 – India investing dynamics 🇮🇳27:05 – SPVs go global 🌎33:24 – Where 2ndary volume concentrates: IPO-window names 🎯[ val corner: Anduril ]53:49 – Anduril overview: defense tech + disclosure 🛡️54:17 – What Anduril does (defense tech framing) 🧠55:17 – Founders Fund + Palmer Luckey origin story 🧩55:40 – Valuation step-up: $14B → $31B examined 📈01:01:14 – Final riff: “ready to rally… or we’ve lost our minds” 😵‍💫[ links ][ invest = https://practicalvc.com ][ trading places socials = www.linktr.ee/tradingplacespod ][ ravi ravulaparthi = https://sg.linkedin.com/in/raviravulaparthi ][ qapita = https://www.qapita.com/ ][ qapita socials = https://www.linkedin.com/company/qapita/ | https://x.com/qapita ][ aman verjee = https://www.linkedin.com/in/aman-verjee | https://x.com/amanverjee ][ dave mcclure = https://www.linkedin.com/in/davemcclure | https://x.com/davemcclure ]*This content is for informational purposes only and should not be considered investment advice.#VentureCapital #PrivateMarkets #Secondaries #SPVs #Anduril #DefenseTech #Qapita

    1 h y 2 min
  4. Top 20 Private Companies in 2026, The Billionaire Tax, Mistral AI Valuation | Augment + Sacra | Ep20

    21 ENE

    Top 20 Private Companies in 2026, The Billionaire Tax, Mistral AI Valuation | Augment + Sacra | Ep20

    In this episode of Trading Places, Dave McClure and Aman Verjee dive deep into the rapidly evolving world of private tech markets. They’re joined by: • Noel Moldvai (Founder & CEO, Augment Markets) • Adam Crawley (Co-Founder, Augment Markets) • Marcelo Ballvé (Founder, Sacra) Together, they unpack what’s actually happening beneath the surface of AI, secondaries, and late-stage private companies: • Why the bar for IPOs keeps moving higher • How secondary markets have become a primary source of liquidity • What SPVs, tender offers, and structured secondaries really solve • Whether today’s AI valuations reflect fundamentals—or momentum • Why many “private” companies now behave like public companies without public rules If you’re tracking AI, private markets, or venture liquidity in 2026, this episode explains where price discovery is really happening—and who benefits from it. Timestamps 00:00 – cold open 00:59 – [ tech & vc news ] 01:15 – California billionaire tax 🤌 09:06 – China IPOs in 2026 🇨🇳 13:10 – JP Morgan & secondary market 📈 15:49 – BlackRock–Microsoft $12.5B partnership 🤝 17:47 – Cerebras AI new $22B valuation 💰 22:04 – [ roundtable: Marcelo Ballvé / Adam Crawley ] 22:47 – Adam Crawley, co-founder of Augment 👨‍💼 23:31 – Marcelo Ballvé: CB Insights → Sacra 🚀 24:19 – Augment Power 20 🔍 31:39 – How Sacra gets data 📊 34:42 – Up-and-coming private companies 🐎 39:51 – Going public vs staying private 🆚 [ val corner: Mistral AI ] 56:13 – Top 10 French unicorns 🇫🇷 58:03 – $2B → $13B 👍 59:00 – 100x on “maybe” revenue 👎 1:02:53 – Valuation prediction 🔮 [ intvw: Noel Moldvai / Augment CEO ] 1:04:02 – Value proposition of Augment 💰 1:06:40 – The rise of SPVs 💸 1:11:17 – Tokenization of private companies 🟡 1:15:38 – Future of secondary markets 🤔 [ links ] [ invest = https://practicalvc.com ] [ trading places socials = www.linktr.ee/tradingplacespod ] [ noel moldvai = https://www.linkedin.com/in/noelmoldvai/ | https://x.com/noelregrets ] [ adam crawley = https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-crawley-b2146753/ | https://x.com/adamcrawley1 ] [ augment = https://augment.market/ ] [ marcelo ballvé = https://www.linkedin.com/in/marceloballve/ | https://x.com/ballve ] [ sacra = http://sacra.com/ ] [ aman verjee = https://www.linkedin.com/in/aman-verjee | https://x.com/amanverjee ] [ dave mcclure = https://www.linkedin.com/in/davemcclure | https://x.com/davemcclure ] Thank you for watching #VentureCapital #StartupInvesting #secondaries #VCSecondaries #mistralai #augmentmarket

    1 h y 27 min
  5. Why LatAm Beats Other Emerging Markets, 2026 IPOs, & Discord Valuation | Guest Nathan Lustig | Ep19

    14 ENE

    Why LatAm Beats Other Emerging Markets, 2026 IPOs, & Discord Valuation | Guest Nathan Lustig | Ep19

    In this episode of Trading Places, Dave McClure and Aman Verjee break down the reopening IPO market, sky-high AI valuations, and the growing push for private-market liquidity — before diving deep into Latin America’s venture ecosystem with Nathan Lustig (Magma Partners) and Karin Tenenboim (Practical VC). Karin explains why Latin America has quietly outperformed other emerging markets on $1B+ exits, how Brazil’s Pix payments system changed fintech overnight, and why secondaries are still underdeveloped across the region. The episode closes with a valuation corner on Discord, including its rejected Microsoft offer and what its IPO might look like today. Timestamps 0:00 - cold open [ tech & vc news ] 1:24 - 2026 IPO market opens 🏁 4:31 - a16z raises $15B across several funds 🥇 6:38 - Top 10 VC firms in the world 12:36 - China blocks Manus ✋ 16:16 - Bill Gurley on AI 24:15 - Anthropic, OpenAI, xAI valuations 💸 32:15 - Discord & Strava IPOs 🔔 37:29 - G Squared + Nasdaq team up for private market liquidity 🤝 40:09 - [ intvw: Nathan Lustig / Magma Partners ] 40:26 - Nathan Lustig background and moving to Chile 40:34 - Karin Tenenboim on PVC LatAm strategy 🌎 49:25 - Brazil Pix payments breakthrough 52:45 - Mottu vertical stack (Motorcycle leasing/logistics) 🏍️ 1:07:30 - Investing strategy in LatAm 1:08:56 - PVC + Magma LatAm 2ndry Fund partnership 🥳 1:33:59 - [ val corner: Discord IPO ] 1:34:36 - What is Discord 🗣️ 1:42:07 - 2021 valued at $14.7B / $15B 📈 1:43:24 - Rejected $12B Microsoft offer 🚫 1:43:24 - Valuation today 🤔 1:44:19 - second takes [ links ] [ invest = https://practicalvc.com ] [ trading places socials = www.linktr.ee/tradingplacespod ] [ nathan lustig = https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanlustig | https://x.com/nathanlustig ] [ magma partners = https://magmapartners.com ] [ karin tenenboim = https://www.linkedin.com/in/ktenenboim | https://x.com/@LadyChutzpa ] [ aman verjee = https://www.linkedin.com/in/aman-verjee | https://x.com/amanverjee ] [ dave mcclure = https://www.linkedin.com/in/davemcclure | https://x.com/davemcclure ] Thank you for watching #VentureCapital #StartupInvesting #LatinAmericaTech #VCSecondaries #DiscordIPO #NathanLustig

    1 h y 45 min
  6. TP18: James Riney of Coral Capital 🇯🇵 | Japan's VC Explosion 🚀 | 2026 IPO Predictions 📈

    7 ENE

    TP18: James Riney of Coral Capital 🇯🇵 | Japan's VC Explosion 🚀 | 2026 IPO Predictions 📈

    Episode 18 of the @TradingPlacesPod featuring James Riney from Coral Capital is out now!This week: Dave and Aman kick off 2026 with their macroeconomic predictions (GDP growth, Fed rate cuts, and tax refunds), break down the IPO market outlook (SpaceX at $1.6T?!, OpenAI, Anthropic, Databricks), and dive deep into the secondary market dynamics for companies that won't go public in 2026. Plus, we explore the private Mag 7 vs. public Mag 7 in our [valuation corner] to answer the big question: where would you rather be—public or private markets?Then, Dave sits down with James Riney, founder and managing partner of Coral Capital in Tokyo, Japan. James shares how he went from JP Morgan to founding one of Japan's largest crypto exchanges (Coin Check) to launching 500 Startups Japan (now Coral Capital) at age 26. They discuss Japan's explosive VC growth (from $700M to $7-10B annually), the rise of "hidden unicorns" (companies that IPO'd before hitting $1B), why secondaries weren't a thing in Japan until recently, and Coral's massive $100M secondary sale in SmartHR—the largest secondary exit ever in Japan that returned 6X on their fund while still holding half their stake.[ timestamps ]00:00 – cold open01:07 – [ tech & vc news ]01:29 – macro growth picture 🖼️07:40 – 2026 IPO predictions 🔮10:24 – 2ndry market game plan 🏈16:43 – Nvidia gives Groq $20B 💰22:00 – SoftBank buys DigitalBridge $4B 🌉23:01 – Google acquires Intersect $4.75B 💸25:42 – Meta hands Manus $2B 👋27:25 – hot IPO Market in China31:35 – [ intvw: James Riney / Coral Capital ]31:46 – $100M 2ndry sale of SmartHR 🧠34:44 – Japanese founding story 🏯36:15 – Japan startup scene 🇯🇵41:35 – Coral Capital strategy 🪸43:54 – China vs Japan vs USA 🌏1:13:59 – [ val corner: mag7 public vs private ]1:13:59 – public mag7 analysis 🔔1:18:38 – Tesla Elon magic 🪄1:22:00 – private mag7 deep dive 🕵️1:27:10 – 2026 2ndry strategy 🧐1:30:51 – second takes[ links ] [ trading places podcast = www.linktr.ee/tradingplacespod ] [ james riney = https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesriney | https://x.com/jriney ] [ coral capital = https://coralcap.co ] [ aman verjee = https://www.linkedin.com/in/aman-verjee | https://x.com/amanverjee ] [ dave mcclure = https://www.linkedin.com/in/davemcclure | https://x.com/davemcclure ]Pod highlights this week:-2026 macro setup is strong: 4% GDP growth, Fed quantitative easing starting, and the biggest tax refunds ever hitting Q1 (tips, social security, overtime exemptions)-IPO predictions: SpaceX targeting $1.6T valuation, OpenAI and Anthropic likely to go public, plus Databricks, Stripe, Canva, Kraken in the mix-Private market reality check: top 10 AI companies getting all the attention, but the real secondary opportunities are in the next 200-300 companies trading at discounts-Nvidia's shopping spree: $20B for Groq (talent + inference tech), $100B in annual free cash flow to deploy—expect more acquisitions-Japan VC market exploded: from $700M (2015) to $7-10B today, with companies IPO'ing at series B/C stage instead of staying private for 12 years-SmartHR secondary: Coral Capital's $100M sale to General Atlantic = largest secondary in Japan history, 6X return on fund, still holding half their stake for the IPO-Hidden unicorns in Japan: 42+ companies hit $1B valuation within 12 years but were already public—so they don't count in "unicorn" stats (definition = private company)-Valuation corner showdown: Public Mag 7 trading at 7-10X revenue with profits; Private Mag 7 top tier (OpenAI, Anthropic, X.AI) at 20-30X revenue with no profits—priced for perfection-Dave's take: avoid the froth at the top (OpenAI, Anthropic, SpaceX), hunt for value in second-tier private companies (Canva at 7X revenue, Databricks at 20X revenue) trading at discounts outside organized tender windows

    1 h y 32 min
  7. TP17: Caplight's Javier Avalos 📊 | Secondary Boom 🔥| Why Banks Need Private Mkts 🏦 | $230B xAI 🚀

    23/12/2025

    TP17: Caplight's Javier Avalos 📊 | Secondary Boom 🔥| Why Banks Need Private Mkts 🏦 | $230B xAI 🚀

    Episode 17 of the Trading Places Pod featuring Javier Avalos of Caplight is out now!This week: the IRS as your hidden secondary buyer, why banks need private market solutions, how platform acquisitions are reshaping secondaries, and whether AI companies are in a bubble or just getting started. Plus, Oracle's cash flow crisis, TikTok's $38B deal, and why mega VC funds might be destroying returns.Hosts Dave McClure and Aman Verjee dive deep with Javier Avalos, CEO and co-founder of Caplight, on the explosive growth in VC secondary markets, transaction data from $3.5B+ in deals, and why 83% of trading volume concentrates in just 15 companies. Javier shares insights on SPV structures, fee loads that make no sense, and why secondary markets are becoming the third leg of the exit stool alongside IPOs and M&A.[ timestamps ]0:00 – cold open1:04 – intro[ tech & vc news ]02:05 – TikTok new owners 🕺07:07 – 2025 AI hype cycle review 🤪10:02 – Tomasz Tunguz on AI junk bonds 🗑️ 12:33 – Elon launches DATA CENTERS IN SPACE!!! 🚀🛰️14:29 – Lightspeed $9B megafund ⚡️16:53 – Dragoneer raises $4.3B 🐉17:39 – OpenAI $750B val & deal with Amazon 💃21:51 – Databricks $134B valuation 🧱23:22 – Waymo $100B val drive 🚕24:14 – Lovable, Unconventional & Notion 💰30:18 – [ intvw: Javier Avalos / Caplight ]30:27 – from Forge to Caplight 👨‍💼35:30 – top 20 startups vs the rest 🌎36:26 – $3.5B closed trade data in 2025 💵39:07 – concentrated VC funds 🎅🏼40:10 – good SPV check list ✅[ val corner: xAI @ $230B ]1:15:11 – what actually is xAI? 🤖1:18:02 – financial analysis 📊1:21:34 – xAI big backers 🧑‍🧑‍🧒1:24:48 – which Elon company to back? 💸Links:[ trading places podcast = www.linktr.ee/tradingplacespod ][ javier avalos = https://www.linkedin.com/in/javier-avalos-caplight ][ caplight = https://framer.caplight.com ][ aman verjee = https://www.linkedin.com/in/aman-verjee/ | https://x.com/amanverjee ][ dave mcclure = https://www.linkedin.com/in/davemcclure/ | https://x.com/davemcclure ]Pod Highlights This Week:Secondary markets = new exit option: Javier reveals Caplight is tracking $3.5B in closed trades in 2025—up 50% YoY—making secondaries a viable third leg alongside IPOs and M&AConcentration is extreme: Top 5 companies = 54.7% of all trading volume; top 20 = over 80%; if you're not in the top 50, you're less than 10% of the marketAI pure play thesis: Only place to get direct AI model exposure—public markets bundle it with advertising, cloud, social mediaBanks racing to acquire platforms: Schwab/Forge ($660M), Morgan Stanley/EquityZen, Goldman/Industry Ventures—if you don't have a private markets solution for clients, you're behindSPV explosion: Now 50% of market activity (up from 15% in 2021) as mega AI rounds require co-investment vehicles—but beware triple-layer 4-and-40 structuresOracle's cash flow crisis: Went from $14B free cash flow (2021) to NEGATIVE as CapEx commitments balloon—bet on OpenAI backfiring?AI bubble or justified?: 25% of volume but 50%+ buyer interest; if more sellers come to market, 2026 could see even more dealsMega funds destroying returns?: Lightspeed $9B, Dragoneer $4.3B—history shows mega funds underperform smaller strategic fundsNotion's patient playbook: Raised at $11B in 2021 bubble (100x revenue), then grew revenue 10x to "only" 20x multiple—rare flat round successx.ai at $230B: Is this about Elon's network or fundamentals? Valor, Ira, Jensen, Sequoia, a16z all in—do you bet with or against them?Javier's insider wisdom: "If you're buying a triple-layer SPV with 3-and-30 that closes in 24 hours, just say no—there's no FOMO worth that"#davemcclure #tradingplacespod #vcsecondaries #secondarymarket #caplight #javieravalos #forgeglobal #schwab #openai #oracle #AI #venturecapital #SPVs #privateequity #liquidityevent #unicorns #spacex #stripe #databricks #xai #elonmusk #secondaries #techvc

    1 h y 29 min
  8. TP16: Bridgespan VC 💰| Employee Stock Option Financing 🫴| Oracle Stock 📉 | Waymo Valuation 🏎️

    16/12/2025

    TP16: Bridgespan VC 💰| Employee Stock Option Financing 🫴| Oracle Stock 📉 | Waymo Valuation 🏎️

    Episode 16 of the TradingPlacesPod featuring Adrien Gautier of Bridgespan VC is out now! This week: Oracle's debt crisis sends shockwaves through AI infrastructure stocks, the IPO market heats up for 2026 with SpaceX, OpenAI & Anthropic eyeing historic exits, and Adrien Gautier reveals how Bridgespan's unique employee stock option financing strategy gets them 30-70% discounts vs. preferred share pricing 💰 Welcome to Trading Places, the extremely terrible, very bad podcast on VC, secondaries, and all things tech. Hosts Dave McClure and Aman Verjee break down market volatility, the Fed's rate cut uncertainty, Oracle's leverage problem, and the explosive IPO pipeline for 2026—before diving deep with Adrien Gautier on how employee stock option financing creates a capital-efficient secondary strategy with built-in downside protection. In Valuation Corner, the team tackles the autonomous vehicle wars: Waymo vs. Tesla vs. the rest of the auto industry, exploring whether software-first companies deserve their premium valuations and why traditional OEMs can't catch up. [ TIMESTAMPS ] 00:00 – cold open 00:53 – [ tech & vc news ] 01:15 – Oracle’s bad week 06:09 – 2026 IPO market 11:49 – SpaceX IPO update 13:15 – Wealthfront flat IPO 14:56 – Medline $55B valuation 22:51 – Boom Supersonic raises $300M 23:49 – Goldman Sachs invests in Harness at $5.5B 25:19 – New fed chair & rate cuts 30:44 – Invest Act coming soon 33:07 – China rejects US Nvidia H200s 35:43 – [ interview: adrien gautier / bridgespan ] 36:12 – Bridgespan VC focus 42:15 – tender offers 43:24 – when can companies IPO 46:16 – EquityBee partnership 47:54 – portfolio management strategy 1:12:45 – [ val corner: waymo @ $45B ] 01:28:29 – second takes LINKS [ trading places podcast ] www.linktr.ee/tradingplacespod [ adrien gautier ] https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriengautier [ bridgespan ] https://www.bridgespanvc.com [ aman verjee ] https://www.linkedin.com/in/aman-verjee | https://x.com/amanverjee [ dave mcclure ] https://www.linkedin.com/in/davemcclure | https://x.com/davemcclure POD HIGHLIGHTS THIS WEEK: -Oracle's leverage trap: 500% debt-to-equity ratio means a 50% drop in enterprise value = 60% equity wipeout. Credit default swaps hit highest since 2008​ -2026 = IPO supercycle: SpaceX ($800B), OpenAI ($500B), Anthropic ($350B) could each break Alibaba's $25B IPO record​ -Bridgespan's edge: Employee stock option financing gets 50-70% discounts vs. latest preferred rounds—with non-recourse downside protection​ -6 exits in year 1: Bridgespan's Fund I generated DPI from 36 investments, with Firefly Aerospace delivering 10x in 60 days​ -Disney + OpenAI = new playbook: Characters licensed to Sora (minus voices)—Ursula's contract confirmed​ -Fed uncertainty: Only 8-10 of 12 voters likely support December rate cut; jobs data showing negative growth 3 of last 5 months​ -Invest Act passes: House approves 49% secondary cap for VC funds (up from 20%), 250→500 LP limit, $10M→$50M emerging manager threshold​ -Tender offer trends: Now standard for companies $10B+ with $100M+ revenue—Bridgespan's primary exit strategy alongside IPOs​ -Autonomous driving wars: Tesla/Waymo trade at 15x revenue; GM/Ford at 0.5x. Software is better than hardware. Helm.ai aims to democratize FSD for legacy OEMs​ -Adrien's wisdom: "If you don't like the public market valuation 6 months post-IPO, we may hedge. But our strategy? 1) sell at lockup 2) return capital to LPs 3) repeat."​ #davemcclure #tradingplacespodcast #venturecapital #secondarymarket #bridgespan #employeestockoptions #tradingplacespod #IPOmarket #SpaceX #OpenAI #Anthropic #Oracle #AIbubble #Waymo #Tesla #autonomousdriving #tenderoffer #VCfundraising #InvestAct #Firefly #equityB #Helm #EmploymentRate #BLS

    1 h y 29 min

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