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Life on Earth is changing faster than ever. Second Nature introduces you to the people driving that change.Join host Rich Stockdale as he sits down with some of the most interesting people working at the intersection of nature, business, finance, adventure, leadership, and politics. Together, they uncover the stories, lessons, and truths that will shape the future of our planet.Expect everything from extreme journeys in the wild to high-performance insights, from conservation breakthroughs to the realities of building purpose-driven organisations. These conversations challenge assumptions, spark new thinking, and shine a light on what it really takes to make an impact in the world at scale.Started in 2023 and brought to you with support from Knight Frank, Second Nature is your chance to learn from the people pushing boundaries and creating change—one honest conversation at a time.

  1. E156 Rowan Martin: This Isn’t for Everyone

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    E156 Rowan Martin: This Isn’t for Everyone

    What does elite talent really look like in conservation — and why do most hiring systems miss it completely? Rowan Martin is a walking contradiction to the sector’s stereotypes. A PhD scientist in butterfly vision. A mountain biker with an instinctive grasp of risk. An estate manager running real land, real projects, and real decisions in West Wales. A mother, creator, and operator who refuses to separate who she is from how she works. This conversation goes far beyond ecology. We get into why CV-led recruitment fails, how high-performance cultures are actually built, and why character, standards, and mindset matter more than tidy career paths. Rowan shares her journey from academia to action, how she balances leadership with authenticity, and why conservation done properly is uncomfortable, physical, and deeply human. We also explore risk — on the bike, on the land, and in business — community trust, volunteer culture, and what happens when you give exceptional people the freedom to be fully themselves. This isn’t a story about fitting in. It’s about raising the bar. If you care about talent, leadership, or how the future of nature is really being built — this one matters.

    1 Std. 19 Min.
  2. E155 Ben Gascoigne: Can Anyone Lead Britain Now?

    22. JAN.

    E155 Ben Gascoigne: Can Anyone Lead Britain Now?

    British politics has a problem — and it isn’t policy. It’s belief. Ben Gascoigne has lived at the heart of the machine. From Downing Street to the House of Lords, he’s seen how power is won, how it’s lost, and why so many leaders fail to hold the country’s attention once they get there. This conversation cuts straight through the spin. Why politics feels empty. Why no one’s listening. Why authenticity beats caution every time. And why playing it safe might be the most dangerous strategy in modern leadership. We talk about the realignment reshaping British politics, the growing appeal of figures who say what they think, and the vacuum left when leaders refuse to own a vision. From Brexit to Farage, Starmer to Blair, this is an unfiltered look at what actually moves people — and what doesn’t. But this isn’t just about elections. It’s about pressure, sacrifice, and the personal cost of life inside the system. The adrenaline. The burnout. And the moment when politics stops being abstract and starts hitting home. If you want to understand why British politics feels stuck — and what it would take to change it — this conversation doesn’t look away.

    1 Std. 20 Min.
  3. E154 Tom Bradshaw: Who Is Killing British Farming?

    20. JAN.

    E154 Tom Bradshaw: Who Is Killing British Farming?

    Britain’s food system looks calm on the surface. Underneath, it’s under strain. Tom Bradshaw, President of the NFU, sits down with Rich Stockdale for a raw, wide-ranging conversation about what it really takes to feed 70 million people — and why UK farming is being pushed to the edge. From balancing family life with national leadership, to fighting for farmers inside Westminster, Tom pulls back the curtain on the political, economic, and emotional realities of modern agriculture. This isn’t nostalgia for farming’s past. It’s a hard look at its future. They dig into why UK farmers are exposed to global markets without the protections enjoyed elsewhere, how trade deals and regulation are quietly reshaping what we grow, and why food security should be treated with the same seriousness as defence and energy. Tom challenges the idea that cheap food is a success story — and explains the real cost it’s storing up for the country. The conversation moves beyond policy into purpose: what farmers stand for, why public trust matters, and how resilience — economic, environmental, and human — is the only way forward. And just days before Christmas, that pressure finally broke through. Following sustained NFU campaigning, industry-wide backing, and direct engagement with the Prime Minister, the government confirmed a major shift on inheritance tax. The threshold will now rise to £2.5 million — or up to £5 million when spousal transfers are included — meaning most family farms will be able to pass to the next generation intact. It’s not perfect, and the fight isn’t over, but for many farmers it’s a decisive step back from the brink. As Tom puts it: farming stood together when it mattered — and it will keep pushing until the system finally works for those who produce our food.

    1 Std. 8 Min.
  4. E153 Alok Sama: Escaping the Trap

    15. JAN.

    E153 Alok Sama: Escaping the Trap

    Alok Sama has lived where most people only speculate. Inside Morgan Stanley. Inside SoftBank. Inside the long, lonely thinking of Masayoshi Son. Rich and Alok strip away the mythology of success — the status, the deals, the adrenaline — and examine what’s left when the noise dies down. From the absurd rituals of high finance to the quiet psychological cost of ambition, this is an unvarnished look at what it really takes to operate at the edge of global power. They explore how language shapes truth in books, why self-deception might be a prerequisite for building anything meaningful, and why the world’s great outliers, Son, Musk, tech’s true visionaries, look ridiculous right up until they bend reality. AI enters the frame not as hype, but as a force already reshaping work, value, and intellectual relevance. The conversation also turns inward: leaving a high-adrenaline career, stepping into writing, and discovering that reflection can be more confronting than any boardroom battle.

    1 Std. 24 Min.
  5. E152 Ed Mansel Lewis: The Price of Taste

    8. JAN.

    E152 Ed Mansel Lewis: The Price of Taste

    English wine didn’t evolve — it accelerated. And now it’s facing the consequences. Ed Mansel-Lewis, Head of Viticulture at Knight Frank, joins Rich Stockdale for a wide-ranging conversation about what really determines success in modern wine — and why the industry is quietly shifting from rapid expansion to ruthless consolidation. From Champagne houses planting vines in Kent, to £30 non-alcoholic wines generating eye-watering margins, to marketing stunts that outperform heritage overnight, this episode pulls back the curtain on the economics, branding, and power dynamics shaping the future of wine. But this isn’t just an industry conversation. Ed opens up about leadership, emotional intelligence, mentorship, and the personal cost of building under pressure — at work and at home.

    1 Std. 46 Min.
  6. E151 Nye Gordon: The New Power Line

    18.12.2025

    E151 Nye Gordon: The New Power Line

    Nye Gordon, Director at Guidehouse, joins Rich Stockdale PhD for a conversation that moves fast — from politics to engineering, from nature markets to climate resilience, from imposter syndrome to the dream of working from a lochside in Perthshire. Nye argues that nature isn’t a backdrop to energy infrastructure — it is infrastructure. A tool for resilience. A shield for assets that are about to face more pressure than ever as the UK electrifies everything. They dig into the cultural clash between engineers and sustainability teams, the missing incentives for networks to invest in nature, and the massive opportunity for energy companies to become true climate leaders rather than reluctant participants. It’s practical. It’s provocative. And it’s a glimpse into a future where resilience-as-a-service, bold policy, and ambitious nature projects sit at the centre of how we power a country. If you care about climate, infrastructure, or the enormous transition already unfolding beneath your feet — you’ll want to hear this one.

    1 Std. 3 Min.
  7. E150 Tom Sobey: Redefining Coffee Culture

    11.12.2025

    E150 Tom Sobey: Redefining Coffee Culture

    Tom Sobey built Origin Coffee long before specialty coffee became a trend — and long before the industry understood what “quality” actually meant. ☕️ This episode goes deep into the real story behind one of Europe’s most respected coffee brands: the early graft, the relentless focus on culture, the obsession with craft, and the uncomfortable decisions needed to scale without selling your soul. We talk about the defining moments — losing Soho House after years of partnership, watching COVID wipe out wholesale overnight, then rebuilding through a digital surge that reshaped the entire business. We dive into why Tom chose to bring in outside investment for the first time, and how that move was really about unlocking opportunity and protecting Origin’s future in Cornwall. Tom’s philosophy is disarmingly simple: surround yourself with people smarter than you, stay humble, and let quality lead every decision — even when it hurts. The result? A roastery with global credibility, a culture built on trust, and a brand that refuses to play the “race to the bottom” game. This isn’t just a coffee story. It’s a blueprint for building something timeless in a world addicted to shortcuts. 🔥

    1 Std. 26 Min.
  8. E149 Tasmin Chilcott: The Future of Outdoor Gear

    04.12.2025

    E149 Tasmin Chilcott: The Future of Outdoor Gear

    Dryrobe didn’t just invent a product — they created a culture. In this episode, Rich sits down with Tasmin Chilcott, the unstoppable force behind Dryrobe’s sustainability mission, to unpack how a cold-car-park problem became one of the most influential outdoor brands in the world. From a mum’s homemade prototype to GB Olympic kit, Dryrobe has become the Hoover, Dyson and Google of its category — and Tasmin reveals the real reason why. They dive into the stories no one sees: the 100% recycled materials, the circular economy push, the packaging trials that cut eight tonnes of waste, and the battles inside a company trying to build gear that lasts forever in a world obsessed with buying again tomorrow. Tasmin opens up about her journey from ocean conservation to carbon accounting to shaping one of the UK’s most values-led brands — and why the climate crisis will force a radical rethink of everything we design and wear. Community, restoration, wild swimming culture, charity partnerships, algae-based innovation, local hiring, B Corp ethics — it’s all here. And Tasmin doesn’t sugarcoat the challenge ahead. If you want to understand what real sustainability looks like — and why Dryrobe keeps winning while everyone else greenwashes — this conversation will hit you harder than a winter swim.

    1 Std.
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Life on Earth is changing faster than ever. Second Nature introduces you to the people driving that change.Join host Rich Stockdale as he sits down with some of the most interesting people working at the intersection of nature, business, finance, adventure, leadership, and politics. Together, they uncover the stories, lessons, and truths that will shape the future of our planet.Expect everything from extreme journeys in the wild to high-performance insights, from conservation breakthroughs to the realities of building purpose-driven organisations. These conversations challenge assumptions, spark new thinking, and shine a light on what it really takes to make an impact in the world at scale.Started in 2023 and brought to you with support from Knight Frank, Second Nature is your chance to learn from the people pushing boundaries and creating change—one honest conversation at a time.

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