The Wild Minds Podcast

The Outdoor Teacher

What if wild, not domesticated, should be our normal instead of factory-farmed lives? What if you could cultivate fulfilling lives and contribute to a healthy natural world? The Wild Minds podcast is brought to you by me, Marina Robb, an author, entrepreneur, Forest School and Nature-based Trainer and Consultant, and pioneer in developing Green programmes for the Mental Health service in the UK. I am the founder of https://www.circleofliferediscovery.com (Circle of Life Rediscovery CIC) and https://www.theoutdoorteacher.com (The Outdoor Teacher) and creator of practical online Forest School and nature-based training for people working in mental health, education and business. Tune in for interviews, insights, cutting-edge and actionable approaches to help you to improve your relationship with yourself, others, and the natural world. https://www.geoffrobb.com (Music by Geoff Robb)

  1. vor 3 Tagen

    The Medicine of Belonging

    As I record this onthe Summer Solstice - a moment when nature stands in its fullest expression, it feels like the perfect time to reflect on a season of conversations that, in different ways, have all pointed towards one essential human need: belonging. At the Summer Solstice, when the light reaches its fullest expression, we are invited to pause and ask what has ripened in us, what is ready to bear fruit, and what kind of power we wish to carry into the darker half of the year.The shift from Oak King to Holly King reminds us that true strength is not domination but stewardship - how can the warrior within us create the conditions for feeling, tenderness and relationship?Belonging begins with safety. Before we can feel deeply, we need to feel held. Yet the natural world offers a remarkable invitation: trees, rivers, birds and plants ask nothing of us before we speak. Angela Hanscom reminded us that children belong through their bodies first. Movement, risk, balance, play and sensory experience are not extras; they are part of how we come to know ourselves and our place in the world.Children often meet the world as a community of living subjects rather than objects. Perhaps part of adulthood is remembering that capacity for relationship with the more-than-human world.Jessica Newberry Le Vay challenged the idea that climate anxiety is something to be fixed. Grief, worry, anger and sadness may be healthy responses to a world under pressure - evidence not of pathology, but of care.Emotional resilience does not come from avoiding difficult feelings but from learning how to hold them together, in community, with purpose and agency.Mo Wilde brought us back to ancient relationships between people, plants, food and seasons, reminding us that health has always been rooted in reciprocity with the living world.Many people arrive at the GP with symptoms that cannot be neatly explained or measured. Sometimes what hurts is not simply the body, but loneliness, grief, burnout, disconnection or the absence of belonging.Health may not exist solely within the individual. It may also live in relationships, communities, purpose, access to nature, and our connection to something larger than ourselves.Outdoor consultations, walking groups, community gardens, shared fires and time in nature are not soft alternatives to healthcare. They may be part of the medicine itself - helping people regulate, connect and remember they are not alone.This season has returned again and again to one simple truth: health is more than the absence of illness. It is connection. It is movement. It is meaning. It is relationship. It is belonging. Show Notes: https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-96-the-medicine-of-belonging Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com Please Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts If you have enjoyed today's episode, please consider rating and reviewing my show! This really helps me to spread the word to more people like you, and to empower more people to take their practice outdoors! Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven’t done so already, "follow" the podcast, as if you’re not following, there’s a good chance you’ll miss out. Mentioned in this episode: The Green Health Virtual Gathering 2026 Embedding Nature in Practice - From Vision to Delivery This gathering brings together psychiatrists, psychologists, psychotherapists, GPs, allied health professionals and NHS leaders exploring how nature-informed approaches can be implemented safely and credibly within real-world healthcare settings. https://circleofliferediscovery.com/gathering

    42 Min.
  2. What If Your GP Could Prescribe Nature?

    22. Juni

    What If Your GP Could Prescribe Nature?

    In this conversation, GP Dr Tim Rigg explores how nature, community and healthcare might come together to create a more humane, preventative and scalable model of wellbeing. Tim speaks from his experience as a GP, bringing together clinical practice, social prescribing, nature connection and a wider understanding of what helps people become wellHe explains that around 90–95% of healthcare contact happens in primary care, showing just how important GPs are in shaping the first conversation about health, care and preventionHe suggests that a very large proportion of people coming to GPs are living with chronic disease, stress, anxiety, depression, isolation or other conditions shaped by the environments and systems they live withinThe conversation explores the strengths of Western medicine, especially in acute illness, trauma and emergency care, while also asking whether it is less equipped to address root causes, prevention and the conditions of a healthy lifeTim shares how the pioneering social prescribing work in Frome helped reveal the importance of community, belonging and purpose in supporting people’s healthOne striking statistic from Frome was a reported 40% relative reduction in hospital admissions compared with a neighbouring area, suggesting that community-based approaches may have a significant role to play in reducing pressure on the systemThe episode looks at green prescribing not as simply telling people to “go for a walk”, but as a structured, supported and clinically credible pathway from the GP consultation room into nature-based wellbeing programmesA key part of the emerging model is making it easy and safe for GPs to signpost patients, while trained nature-based practitioners manage screening, safeguarding, delivery and ongoing supportThe conversation explores why nature-based work may help through regulation of the nervous system, sensory connection, beauty, awe, movement, stillness, meaning, community and relationship with the more-than-human worldTim’s work is also about collaboration, bringing together GPs, Primary Care Networks, nature-based practitioners, social prescribing link workers, universities, funders and local green providersAt the heart of the episode is a hopeful question about scale - how do we move from inspiring local projects to a joined-up, evidence-informed, nationally accessible pathway that supports people, practitioners, communities and the NHS? Shownotes: https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-95-what-if-your-gp-could-prescribe-nature/ Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com Please Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts If you have enjoyed today's episode, please consider rating and reviewing my show! This really helps me to spread the word to more people like you, and to empower more people to take their practice outdoors! Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven’t done so already, "follow" the podcast, as if you’re not following, there’s a good chance you’ll miss out. Mentioned in this episode: The Green Health Virtual Gathering 2026 Embedding Nature in Practice - From Vision to Delivery This gathering brings together psychiatrists, psychologists, psychotherapists, GPs, allied health professionals and NHS leaders exploring how nature-informed approaches can be implemented safely and credibly within real-world healthcare settings. https://circleofliferediscovery.com/gathering

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  3. 15. Juni

    Getting to Know the Plants

    In this reflective solo episode, Marina explores how getting to know the plants around us can deepen our sense of connection, belonging and wonder. Drawing on a day spent teaching in the woods, she shares simple ways to slow down, engage the senses and discover the food, medicine, stories and lessons hidden within the plants we often overlook. Key Takeaways Why learning the names and qualities of individual plants changes how we relate to the natural world.How simple sensory activities can help us slow down and pay closer attention.The powerful "Meet a Tree" exercise and what it reveals about uniqueness and connection.Marina's woodland day of foraging, fire-lighting, whittling and plant-based practices.The medicinal and nutritional benefits of pine needles, including vitamin C and antioxidants.How to make an infused pine and elderflower tea and immunity-supporting syrup.The importance of safe foraging, correct identification and awareness of lookalike species.Ethical harvesting practices that ensure enough is left for wildlife and future growth.Insights from Mo Wilde's foraging work and the impact of wild foods on gut health and the microbiome.The remarkable benefits of common plants such as nettles, often dismissed as weeds.Creative ways to use plant study across science, geography, history, literacy and art.An invitation to choose just one local plant, observe it through the seasons, and discover the richness of relationship it can offer. Show Notes: https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-94-getting-to-know-the-plants/ Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com Please Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts If you have enjoyed today's episode, please consider rating and reviewing my show! This really helps me to spread the word to more people like you, and to empower more people to take their practice outdoors! Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven’t done so already, "follow" the podcast, as if you’re not following, there’s a good chance you’ll miss out. Mentioned in this episode: The Green Health Virtual Gathering 2026 Embedding Nature in Practice - From Vision to Delivery This gathering brings together psychiatrists, psychologists, psychotherapists, GPs, allied health professionals and NHS leaders exploring how nature-informed approaches can be implemented safely and credibly within real-world healthcare settings. https://circleofliferediscovery.com/gathering

    25 Min.
  4. The Wilderness Cure: What Happens When We Eat the Wild with Mo Wilde

    8. Juni

    The Wilderness Cure: What Happens When We Eat the Wild with Mo Wilde

    In this episode, I’m speaking with Mo Wilde - forager, research herbalist, ethnobotanist, author of The Wilderness Cure, and founder of the Wild Biome Project. Mo has spent decades learning from plants, fungi, seaweeds, medicine, soil and the seasons. Her relationship with the wild began in childhood, and has grown into a life’s work exploring not only what plants can offer us, but what happens when we remember ourselves as part of the living world. In 2020, Mo began an extraordinary experiment: for a whole year, she ate only wild food. No supermarket food, no farmed food, no quick stops for coffee and cake — just what could be foraged, gathered, hunted, exchanged, preserved, fermented or found within the landscape around her. But this conversation is not really about survivalism. It is not about going “backwards” or romanticising the past. It is about relationship. What happens when we begin to notice the green world in detail again? What happens when the body is nourished by wild plants, fungi and microbes? What happens to our gut, our sense of belonging, our imagination, our resilience — when food stops being just a product and becomes a relationship with place? Together, Mo and I explore foraging, wild food, food security, children’s ecological literacy, the intelligence of plants, the Wildbiome Project, and the deep shift from scarcity into abundance. This is a conversation about the wilderness cure — and the question at the heart of it is: what happens when we eat the wild? In this conversation with Mo Wilde, we explore wild food not simply as foraging, but as a way of remembering our place inside the living world. Mo begins with gratitude for plants, reminding us that through photosynthesis they transform sunlight into the energy that makes all life on Earth possible.She describes a wild plant as one that is not directly tended or controlled by humans, inviting us to think about wildness as relationship rather than separation.During her year of eating only wild food, Mo found far more abundance than she expected, with most of her food coming from within 15 miles of her home.Her wild diet included hundreds of plant species, seaweed, mushrooms, shellfish, game, and even wasp larvae, revealing the astonishing range of foods still present in the landscape.The experiment was not about survivalism or proving toughness, but about asking whether the land around her could truly feed her.Mo speaks beautifully about the practical intelligence of preservation, celebrating the jam jar as one of humanity’s great inventions for fermenting, storing, and carrying abundance forward.She challenges the idea that foraging requires some rare talent, suggesting that humans already can notice detail - we have simply trained that attention on brands, logos, and consumer culture instead of plants.The conversation touches on how children can naturally learn plants when they are shown them, and how much ecological literacy could return if this knowledge was woven through childhood.Mo reflects on food insecurity, Brexit, Covid, and her own teenage experience of feeding younger siblings in Malawi, all of which shaped her interest in resilience and local food.What begins as a question about food becomes something deeper: Mo describes moving from a mindset of scarcity to an experience of abundance, gratitude, fragility, and being held by the living world.As a herbalist, she reminds us that healing is not only something we seek when we are ill, but something that happens daily through nourishment, relationship, and the complex intelligence of plants.Through the Wild Biome Project, Mo is exploring how eating wild food changes the gut microbiome, opening up questions about whether health can be understood not by isolating one molecule, but by seeing the larger patterns between bodies, bacteria, plants, soil, and place. Shownotes: https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-93-the-wilderness-cure-with-mo-wilde/ Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com Please Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts If you have enjoyed today's episode, please consider rating and reviewing my show! This really helps me to spread the word to more people like you, and to empower more people to take their practice outdoors! Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven’t done so already, "follow" the podcast, as if you’re not following, there’s a good chance you’ll miss out. Mentioned in this episode: The Green Health Virtual Gathering 2026 Embedding Nature in Practice - From Vision to Delivery This gathering brings together psychiatrists, psychologists, psychotherapists, GPs, allied health professionals and NHS leaders exploring how nature-informed approaches can be implemented safely and credibly within real-world healthcare settings. https://circleofliferediscovery.com/gathering

    59 Min.
  5. 1. Juni

    Climate Anxiety Is Not the Problem

    In this week's episode I am discussing how climate anxiety is not the problem. I will explore how we educate, support and practice in a time of climate breakdown without overwhelming young people or asking them to numb themselves to reality. Topics include: Climate anxiety is not the problem; unsupported climate anxiety is. Climate education cannot just give young people facts - it has to help them emotionally metabolise what they know. Emotional literacy needs to include the body, not just naming feelings. Adults and teachers need to do their own emotional work, otherwise they may shut down young people’s grief, anger or fear. Climate anxiety can be a sign of care, intelligence and relationship with the world, not pathology. The “Goldilocks zone” is really useful: enough feeling to care and act, not so much that people collapse. A climate breakdown risk-benefit assessment feels like one of your most original contributions. The neutrality/politics section is one of the most interesting: teachers do not need to be party-political, but silence and false balance are not neutral. Resilience should be framed as community, belonging and collective capacity, not individual toughness. Nature connection is not just a well-being add-on; it is part of repairing the relationship that created the crisis. The ending around possible futures, imagination and agency is important because it offers hope without false reassurance. Show Notes: https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-92-climate-anxiety-is-not-the-problem/ Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com Please Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts If you have enjoyed today's episode, please consider rating and reviewing my show! This really helps me to spread the word to more people like you, and to empower more people to take their practice outdoors! Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven’t done so already, "follow" the podcast, as if you’re not following, there’s a good chance you’ll miss out. Mentioned in this episode: The Green Health Virtual Gathering 2026 Embedding Nature in Practice - From Vision to Delivery This gathering brings together psychiatrists, psychologists, psychotherapists, GPs, allied health professionals and NHS leaders exploring how nature-informed approaches can be implemented safely and credibly within real-world healthcare settings. https://circleofliferediscovery.com/gathering

    55 Min.
  6. Can We Teach Climate Change Without Overwhelming Young People?

    25. Mai

    Can We Teach Climate Change Without Overwhelming Young People?

    Today I’m speaking with Jessica Newberry Le Vay, Senior Researcher in the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Oxford, and part of Climate Cares - a global initiative based at Oxford and Imperial College London, working to understand and respond to the links between climate change, mental health and wellbeing. Jessica leads the Compass Project, a research programme exploring how climate change education can be integrated with mental health and wellbeing, so that young people are better supported to live, work and thrive in a changing climate. Before joining Oxford, Jessica worked at Imperial College London as a Climate Change and Health Policy Fellow with Climate Cares, and previously led Cancer Research UK’s policy research programme on cancer prevention. In this episode: Jessica describes climate change and mental health as two deeply connected crises, because how we feel shapes how we respond.The conversation centres on the Compass Project, which looks at how students and educators experience climate education and climate emotions.Jessica shares that many young people feel anxiety, fear, anger, grief, hopelessness or betrayal in response to climate breakdown.She highlights research showing that 59% of young people surveyed globally were very or extremely worried about climate change.More than 45% of those young people said their climate feelings were affecting daily life, including sleep, eating, school and relationships.Jessica explains that climate anxiety is often a rational, healthy and caring response, rather than something to simply remove or fix.Marina and Jessica explore how unspoken emotions can affect mental health, especially when young people do not feel able to share what they are carrying.Teachers are also experiencing climate worry, while often feeling under-resourced, under-trained and unsure how to hold these conversations.The episode explores the need to help young people hold fear and hope together, rather than avoiding difficult truths.Jessica discusses how misinformation, social media and stigma can make it harder for young people to talk openly about climate change and action.The conversation questions whether climate education can ever be politically neutral, especially when climate impacts are shaped by injustice, power and systems. Shownotes: https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/teach-climate-change-without-overwhelming-young-people/ Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com Please Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts If you have enjoyed today's episode, please consider rating and reviewing my show! This really helps me to spread the word to more people like you, and to empower more people to take their practice outdoors! Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven’t done so already, "follow" the podcast, as if you’re not following, there’s a good chance you’ll miss out. Mentioned in this episode: The Green Health Virtual Gathering 2026 Embedding Nature in Practice - From Vision to Delivery This gathering brings together psychiatrists, psychologists, psychotherapists, GPs, allied health professionals and NHS leaders exploring how nature-informed approaches can be implemented safely and credibly within real-world healthcare settings. https://circleofliferediscovery.com/gathering

    54 Min.
  7. 18. Mai

    Beyond ‘Just Play’: Understanding What Children Need

    This episode explores the tension between “just play” and the deeper understanding of what children truly need to develop and thrive. Topics Include: Play is not a break from learning but the primary way children engage with and make sense of the world physically, socially, and emotionallyTrue play is child-led, intrinsically motivated, and process-driven, and when these qualities are removed it becomes task or instruction rather than playOutdoor environments offer rich opportunities for sensory, physical, and exploratory play that support coordination, curiosity, and whole-body developmentRisky play - climbing, jumping, rough and tumble - is essential for building confidence, resilience, and an internal capacity to assess riskSocial and imaginative play develop communication, empathy, identity, and emotional processing in ways that structured environments often limitThe role of the adult is not to control outcomes but to hold space, observe, and introduce possibility without taking overForest School brings a unique layer by introducing tools, fire, and cultural practices that deepen play and expand children’s worldsThere is a constant dynamic of stepping in and stepping back, requiring skill, reflection, and responsiveness to each child’s needsBehaviour can often be reframed as a sensory or developmental need rather than something to be corrected or managedEach child has a unique sensory profile, meaning the same environment can regulate one child and overwhelm anotherPlay may be the destination, but for some children it requires co-regulation, relationship, and careful support before it can emerge Show Notes: https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-88-beyond-just-play-understanding-what-children-need/ Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com Please Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts If you have enjoyed today's episode, please consider rating and reviewing my show! This really helps me to spread the word to more people like you, and to empower more people to take their practice outdoors! Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven’t done so already, "follow" the podcast, as if you’re not following, there’s a good chance you’ll miss out. Mentioned in this episode: The Green Health Virtual Gathering 2026 Embedding Nature in Practice - From Vision to Delivery This gathering brings together psychiatrists, psychologists, psychotherapists, GPs, allied health professionals and NHS leaders exploring how nature-informed approaches can be implemented safely and credibly within real-world healthcare settings. https://circleofliferediscovery.com/gathering

    39 Min.
  8. Restoring the Occupation of Childhood

    11. Mai

    Restoring the Occupation of Childhood

    In this 1st episode of Season 12, Restoring the Occupation of Childhood, I’m joined by Angela Hanscom, a paediatric occupational therapist, Author of Balanced and Barefoot. She is also the founder of TimberNook that programmes designed to immerse children in sensory-rich, authentic play in nature and are found in over 51 locations in 4 countries! Angela’s work invites us to look again at the rising challenges we’re seeing in children today - anxiety, attention difficulties and disconnection, and to ask a different question. What if these aren’t problems within the child… but reflections of the environments we’ve created around them? In this episode, we explore what children truly need to flourish - and how outdoor play, movement, and freedom are not extras, but essential foundations for healthy development. Topics include: In this episode, we explore what children truly need to flourish - and how outdoor play, movement, and freedom are not extras, but essential foundations for healthy development.A “flourishing child” is not defined by academic success, but by their ability to adapt, regulate, take risks, and keep going when things are hard.The environments children spend most of their time in are shaping their development - often more than we realise.Outdoor environments offer rich, multi-sensory experiences that support brain organisation and sensory integration.Uneven ground, natural sounds, and changing conditions constantly challenge balance, awareness, and attention.Many modern children are significantly under-moving, with long periods of sitting impacting posture, attention, and overall development.Movement - especially spinning, climbing, and going upside down - is essential for developing the vestibular system and the ability to focus.When children are restricted from movement, they often appear fidgety or inattentive - but this may reflect unmet developmental needs rather than behavioural issues.Risky play helps children develop internal risk assessment, confidence, and safety awareness - overprotection can have the opposite effect.Play is the primary “occupation” of childhood and the most meaningful way children develop physically, socially, and emotionally.Child-led, unstructured play supports executive functioning, problem-solving, emotional regulation, and social skills.Outdoor play offers far greater therapeutic benefit than controlled indoor environments due to its complexity, freedom, and full-body engagement.A major barrier to children’s play is adult fear - often driven more by social perception than actual riskReducing demands and giving children time and space outdoors can significantly support mental health and reduce anxiety.Restoring outdoor play is not just about individual children — it has the potential to shift culture, education, and how we understand development Shownotes: https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-89-restoring-the-occupation-of-childhood/ Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com Please Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts If you have enjoyed today's episode, please consider rating and reviewing my show! This really helps me to spread the word to more people like you, and to empower more people to take their practice outdoors! Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven’t done so already, "follow" the podcast, as if you’re not following, there’s a good chance you’ll miss out. Mentioned in this episode: The Green Health Virtual Gathering 2026 Embedding Nature in Practice - From Vision to Delivery This gathering brings together psychiatrists, psychologists, psychotherapists, GPs, allied health professionals and NHS leaders exploring how nature-informed approaches can be implemented safely and credibly within real-world healthcare settings. https://circleofliferediscovery.com/gathering

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What if wild, not domesticated, should be our normal instead of factory-farmed lives? What if you could cultivate fulfilling lives and contribute to a healthy natural world? The Wild Minds podcast is brought to you by me, Marina Robb, an author, entrepreneur, Forest School and Nature-based Trainer and Consultant, and pioneer in developing Green programmes for the Mental Health service in the UK. I am the founder of https://www.circleofliferediscovery.com (Circle of Life Rediscovery CIC) and https://www.theoutdoorteacher.com (The Outdoor Teacher) and creator of practical online Forest School and nature-based training for people working in mental health, education and business. Tune in for interviews, insights, cutting-edge and actionable approaches to help you to improve your relationship with yourself, others, and the natural world. https://www.geoffrobb.com (Music by Geoff Robb)

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