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Australia's best comedic voices and experts savage the news in comedy podcast. It's fast. It's funny. It's like #qanda on crack.
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A Rational Fear Dan Ilic

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Australia's best comedic voices and experts savage the news in comedy podcast. It's fast. It's funny. It's like #qanda on crack.
🏆 Nominated for Best Comedy Podcast 2019 - Australian Podcast Awards 🏆
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    Foxtel The Foreign Broadcaster — Cathy Wilcox, Tosh Greenslade, Lewis Hobba, and Dan Ilic

    Foxtel The Foreign Broadcaster — Cathy Wilcox, Tosh Greenslade, Lewis Hobba, and Dan Ilic

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    This week's show we cover Foxtel going offshore, Australia and China's meme warfare, Rudy Giuliani's crack legal team in Michigan and we interview two blokes who invaded the cricket pitch at the Australia vs India test match at the SCG.

    Fearmongers this week:

    Cathy Wilcox  (SMH)
    Tosh Greenslade (Mad As Hell / The ScoMo Diaries )
    Lewis Hobba (Triple J)
    Dan Ilic (A Rational Fear)

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    Unknown Speaker  0:00  
    This podcast is supported in part by the birth of foundation.

    Unknown Speaker  0:04  
    Gay Lewis.

    Lewis Hobba  0:05  
    Hello, Daniel. How

    Dan Ilic  0:07  
    I look I'm well I'm feeling pretty good because we've got a whole bunch of new Patreon supporters including Maureen Morgan from the stand up school of hard knocks, they do. They teach people how to do stand up, Louis, that's what they do. We've also got someone called C 316801. For they've become the Patreon supporter.

    Lewis Hobba  0:27  
    I'm giving away being funded by Russian bots.

    Dan Ilic  0:30  
    I think we're actually being funded by Elon Musk's daughter, I think Alex Thornton has also signed up Dylan Joel has signed up, Laura wells has signed up and a guy called Jared Morris now I'm pretty sure I know this blog when I was in LA I was when I first moved to LA in 2016. I was quite lonely. And I went to a bar just to go try out some really nice food because that's what you do when you're on your own. And the barman was jerem he was an Aussie guy and he recognised from the telly and he gave me a free whiskey. So thank you Jeremy, for joining up and giving to you. Jeremy is the bomb in the cape serving. It's fantastic.

    Lewis Hobba  1:07  
    That's amazing.

    Dan Ilic  1:08  
    Another way to support irrational fear is to offset the carbon emissions with your car with a go neutral sticker for every $90 sticker go neutral by 3.5 tonnes of carbon offsets which is about the yearly average emissions for a car and then five bucks that comes to us to do that. To Go Go neutral and support irrational feet use the link in the show notes. Louis I'm recording my end of irrational feet on gadigal land what

    Lewis Hobba  1:30  
    land Do you want also on gadigal land

    Dan Ilic  1:32  
    your nation, sovereignty was never said we need a treaty. Let's start the show.

    Unknown Speaker  1:36  
    A rational fear contains naughty words like bricks cambro and gum and section 40 of a rational fear recommended listening by immature audience.

    Dan Ilic  1:49  
    Tonight after monster speculating the opposite US Attorney General bill Barr finds no evidence of voter fraud but finally finds evidence of a backbone and Prime Minister Scott Morrison hits back at full corners parliamentary sex scandal episode with a new initiative called knob keeper and gatherings of 50 people are now allowed on dance floors in New South Wales critics say this will just lead to an increase in murder on the dance floor. It's the fourth of December 2020 and we're holding the vaccine This is irrational fear.

    Hello, welcome to rational fit. I'm your host former quarantine housekeeper Dan Ilic. Let's meet our fear mongers for tonight. She's one of the sharpest with featured daily and nines newspapers. She's also the newly elected President of the Australian cartoonists Association. Please stop the votes because it's the Walkley award winning Kathy Wilcox. Oh, sure. Do we have to call you madam? President now?

    Cathy Wilcox  3:00  
    Yeah. Only only Madam President. Mrs. President is all right to Boss Lady.

    Lewis Hobba  3:06  
    What are some of the roles of the president of the of your new your new position?

    Cathy Wilcox

    • 40 min
    Qantas vs Anti Vaxers — Chris Taylor, Alice Fraser, Imaan Frank Hadchiti, Dan Ilic

    Qantas vs Anti Vaxers — Chris Taylor, Alice Fraser, Imaan Frank Hadchiti, Dan Ilic

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    We have some old friends of the show and someone new. Chris Taylor (The Chaser) Alice Fraser (The Last Post) And Imaan Frank Hadchiti joins the podcast. Qantas’s vaccinations, The Magna Carta people of the UK, and Turkey Pardoning in the USA. We unfortunately didn’t connect to our guest interview Michael West on the crumbling of the Murdoch Empire, we assume he was assassinated mid-podcast by John Barilaro. 

    BIG NEWS

    We won the Best Comedy Podcast at the Australian Podcast Awards. Beating out such luminaries as Hamish and Andy and Tony Martin’s Sizzle Town.  I trust that last year’s winners Tony Martin and his producer Matt Dower will take the Australian Podcast Awards finding with good grace, and will proceed with a peaceful transition of power.  It’s what makes the Australian Podcast Awards great, we may differ on what we think is ‘humour,’ but we can all agree farts are always funny.

    Last Chance to Add Your Submission to the submit something to the House Standing Committee on the Environment and Energy.

    Today (Friday 27th) at 5pm is the cut off time for submissions to the House Standing Committee on the Environment and Energy. Use GetUp!’s very simple form here to fill out a couple of paragraphs about why you believe fossil fuels should stay in the ground and how electrifying industry is going to make the world a better place. https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/climate-justice/climate-change-bills/will-you-support-the-climate-act?t=e44m3cQ1N

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    TRANSCRIPTION FROM OTTER.AI

    Unknown Speaker  0:00  
    This podcast is supported in part by the birth of foundation.

    Dan Ilic  0:04  
    Hello, Lewis.

    Lewis Hobba  0:05  
    Hello, Daniel. How are you?

    Dan Ilic  0:06  
    I don't know if you're aware, but you and I, we are now the award winning irrational fear podcast.

    Lewis Hobba  0:11  
    Yeah, I heard we're officially the funniest podcasts in Australia. What a low bar for the whole country.

    Dan Ilic  0:17  
    And anyone who's new to listening to this podcast, can I just say I just send some really exceptional bits in for the awards? So don't expect to be funny. straight off the bat.

    Unknown Speaker  0:27  
    Yeah,

    Lewis Hobba  0:28  
    what what do you have to send in you have to in like, 20 minutes or something, and we make a general podcast, that's about 0.01% of the waffle on an average podcast

    Dan Ilic  0:37  
    and show across the year, there's gonna be five minutes of really crappy stuff that's gonna have you in stitches. And that's what you can expect from us. Across the year, five minutes is gonna make you laugh.

    Lewis Hobba  0:48  
    If you're listening to this, think of yourself as a gold miner, going in, going under that going into the shaft. And who knows, maybe you'll spend five years of your life and it'll be for nothing. Or maybe within 10 minutes, you'll find a little nugget of gold, and you'll be able to check it in and you'll be you'll be happy for the rest of your life.

    Dan Ilic  1:07  
    People who have been happy for the rest of their life, and they found the gold include new Patreon supporters. Phil Thank you, Phil. Michael David lai adoos Frankie Lee has upped her contribution from 20 to 30 bucks a month. That's, that's like three standard subscriptions. Frankie, thank you very much for that. And a big thanks to James Shira, who dropped us a $10 support package as well. You can support us. We may be award winning, Louis, but we don't have many sponsors. In fact, the only people who sponsor us are our Patreon supporters.

    Lewis Hobba  1:36  
    Yeah. Obviously still not getting paid despite the award can't cast th

    • 27 min
    Pete, The Activated Nazi — Zach from Aunty Donna, Virginia Gay, Lewis Hobba, Dan Ilic + Noah Schultz-Byard

    Pete, The Activated Nazi — Zach from Aunty Donna, Virginia Gay, Lewis Hobba, Dan Ilic + Noah Schultz-Byard

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    This week we rip into Pete Evans. Why not? Everyone else is. We as whether or not we should let dead mummies lie. We cheer on SA as they go into their 6 day hard lockdown. And we mock the SA government for trying to implement a tax on electric cars.

    Fearmongers this week:

    Zach Ruane (Aunty Donna's Big Ole House of Fun)
    Virginia Gay (All Saints Big Ol Hospital of Fiction)
    Dan Ilic (The Ronnie Johns Half Hour of Nonsense)
    Lewis Hobba (Hungry Beast)

    and Noah Schultz-Byard (SA Director of The Australia Institue)

     

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    Transcript below from Otter.Ai.

    Unknown Speaker  0:00  
    This podcast is supported in part by the birther foundation.

    Dan Ilic  0:04  
    Welcome to the podcast in case you're streaming us you will you'll know that Louis is face can't be seen because one he is a dentist and he's got a terrible laptop. If you want Louis to be able to be seen on streams in the future, please become our Patreon supporter. Just like Brett Murphy has Alex felony offski Vicki hassles, journalists Marty smiley Louis this month this week is become a supporter of us on Patreon.

    Lewis Hobba  0:28  
    Actually, I spent the weekend with Marty and he told me that and I was like that is so kind. But I think he also owes me because my niece Molly once had sex and my dad was away. And so he does, he does so much more money than he could ever give us on Patreon. Well, he's

    Dan Ilic  0:44  
    showing you $3 a month right now, which says a lot about body smiley for black. Yeah. And also Louis, we got a superfan who's giving us an embarrassing amount of money. David O'Connor is a school friend of mine. And probably you know those people who are like the most likely to succeed. When you're in high school. He is that guy and he has gone beyond our expectations and succeeded. So he's giving us a few hundred dollars a month which is incredible. Another way to support irrational fear is to offset the carbon emissions from your car with the go neutral sticker for every new $90 go neutral by 3.5 tonnes of carbon offsets which is about the average yearly emissions from a car and five bucks that comes to us. I'm recording my end of a rational fee on gadigal land in the urination. sovereignty was never seated, waited a treaty. Let's start the shot.

    Unknown Speaker  1:31  
    A rational fear contains naughty words like bricks cambro COMM And section 40 of a rational fear recommended listening by immature audience.

    Dan Ilic  1:44  
    Tonight at the 26 minute long News Corp AGM rupert murdoch said he's not a climate denier. He's just number one with climate deniers. And thanks to COVID-19 Adelaide enters six days of staying at home and doing nothing also known as Adelaide and Australia is set to open all state and territory borders by Christmas except CWA that ruined our holiday plans to Perth exclaimed no one is the 20th of November 2020. And many smart people are saying that we are gonna beat sizzle Tam at the Australian podcast level. So best comedy. This is irrational fear. Hello and welcome to irrational fear the show that holds your hand through the spookiest stories of the week on your host, former chairman of crown casino Dan Ilic. Joining me on the podcast this week, the mongers of fear. And let me tell you first up, he's the only guy left or Triple J who hasn't managed to go behind his boss's back to secure a deal with a commercial radio station. It's Louis harbor.

    Lewis Hobba  2:55  
    Begging for a den one day I'll get that you can pick it up.

    Dan Ilic  2:59  
    And she's a writer, performer, actor, musician and racconta it's the old star of all saints Virginia gay. Howdy,

    • 39 min
    The people taking the Australian Government to the UN - GMPOOG - 03

    The people taking the Australian Government to the UN - GMPOOG - 03

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    Each month on the A Rational Fear podcast feed we deliver long-form conversations with leaders in climate action from Australia and around the world. This is Episode 3 of Greatest Moral Podcast of Our Generation.

    This week we have two incredible voices.

    Yessie Mosby is part of the ‘Torres Strait 8’, a group of Torres Strait islanders who are taking the Australian Government to the UN Human Rights Council for their lack of climate action. Which, as you can imagine if you live in the Torres Strait, is quite the existential problem. And I also chat with Sophie Marjanac, is the lawyer driving the complaint.

    This is a fascinating chat. If you’re like me, and live in a major city in Australia, it’s easy to be dismissive of sea-level rise as something that will effect other countries, other islands. Not our country.

    But for those in the Torres Strait sea-level rise is ALREADY putting an entire culture, an entire race under threat. It’s fitting that this podcast’s schedule serendipitously lines up with NAIDOC week.

    Big thanks also to my Bertha Fellow colleague, Linh Do, for covering the climate news up the top of the podcast with me. 

    YOU CAN HELP — SIGN THE PETITION

    Yes, it’s another petition! But this one will update you on the complaint, and events that are being organised to support the case. Like, December 14th, there will be an online “Town Hall” for supporters and the public to meet the Torres Strait 8. If you sign the petition, you’ll be the first to be invited to sign up to the event. http://ourislandsourhome.com.au/#sign

     

     

    TRANSCRIPT BY OTTER AI BELOW:

    Bertha Announcement  0:00  
    This podcast is supported in part by the Bertha Foundation.

    Yessie Mosby  0:04  
    Please help us we're here we need help. When we sit here in Ireland we sit, we sit as Australians. When we stand and we hold hands and we sing the national anthem, it states and we sing it with pride for let us all rejoice, advanced Australia fee and shouldn't that be recognised? Like we should be all you know, standing and supporting each other, being Australians. 

    Dan Ilic  0:29  
    G'day, welcome to the Greatest Moral Podcast of Our Generation. Joining me is Linh Do Hello, Linh. Hey, Dan, how are you doing?

    I'm good. This is our third greatest moral podcast of our generation. We are making headway here. Last week's was or last month rather, was with Asha Gunzburg and Mike cannon Brookes, which I thought was pretty good. Actually. It was great.

    Linh Do  0:48  
    I had so much positive feedback. And I think so much disbelief that you and I could relay in such big talent.

    Dan Ilic  0:54  
    That's right. So Bill Gates, if you're out there, give us a call.

    Linh Do  0:58  
    We're ready. We're ready. Now,

    Dan Ilic  1:01  
    this is on the irrational fear feed. It happens once a month it is chats with climate leaders and the guests this month. Absolutely, undeniably, climate leaders, and you'll find out a little bit more about them just in a second. Before we do that, just want to thank our new Patreon supporters, Damian Payne and Philip both beads very nice of you. If you want to support a rational fear, and the greatest podcast of our generation, you need to go to patreon.com forward slash irrational fear. Another way you can support irrational fears to offset the carbon emissions from your car with go neutral for

    • 56 min
    Adopt an American — Zali Steggall, Sami Shah, Gabbi Bolt, Lewis Hobba & Dan Ilic

    Adopt an American — Zali Steggall, Sami Shah, Gabbi Bolt, Lewis Hobba & Dan Ilic

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    Thrilled to have Zali Steggall MP on the podcast this week. On Monday, November 9th, she sends her Climate Act to the lower house. You can support the act by signing up with 88,000 other Australians who want to see action on climate change: https://join.climateactnow.com.au/

    Also we’re joined by musical comedy TikTok star Gabbi Bolt, award winning writer comedian Sami Shah, as well as Lewis Hobbaand me (Dan Ilic).



    Thanks: Big thanks to The Bertha Foundation, our Patreon Supporters and RODE Mics. And post-producer Jacob Round.

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    Unknown Speaker  0:00  
    This podcast is supported in part by the birth of foundation.

    Unknown Speaker  0:04  
    Guy Lewis, how are you?

    Lewis Hobba  0:06  
    Good Daniel, how are you? I'm good, what could possibly be stopping me from being as good as I've ever been?

    Dan Ilic  0:11  
    Nothing in the news in particular. First of all, I wanted to say a big shout out to our new Patreon supporters, Damian pine and Philip boothby. Thank you so much to everyone who joins us on Patreon because it helps us make the show every week. Another way you can support a rational fee is to offset the carbon emissions of your car with a go neutral sticker for every $90 sticker go neutral by 3.5 tonnes of carbon offsets, which is about the yearly emissions for your average con five bucks that comes to us. I should make a point handy, Louis that the owners shouldn't be on the individual. We need to get big polluters to pay for the pollution. But before we do that, boy, it feels nice to just drive around knowing that my emissions are offset, and I got a little sticker that to virtue signal to all of my other people on the road.

    Lewis Hobba  0:57  
    Right? I ride a scooter. So if I go neutral that will cover me for like, two lifetimes.

    Dan Ilic  1:03  
    You're totally fine. You're totally fine. Yeah. Also no St. Louis. This is a big announcement. And a big thank you to everyone who listens to the show, because on the weekend, we got nominated for Best Comedy podcast at the Australian podcast awards. So thank you very much

    Lewis Hobba  1:18  
    the last time we lost that award. We lost it on the night of the last Australian election. So if you recall, we were all sitting in the crowd just watching our phones the whole time going. I this us winning or losing this award is less important than the other winner loss happening in the country right now.

    Dan Ilic  1:34  
    Yes, that's right. I totally forgot about that. We are up against some good people though. improv tunes. A couple of comedians called Hamish and Andy. I've never heard of him, Matt dalla and Tony Martin sizzle town and Alfred's dragon friends featuring your Triple J colleague, Michael King. What we know is king beats us.

    Lewis Hobba  1:56  
    Honestly, if I lose to Michael King, I'm gonna have to quit it. I bet Yeah. I feel like sort of like Trump about a week ago. And he was talking about job and just being like, I'm gonna lose to that guy. That guy? Well, I can't lose my, my pride won't allow it.

    Dan Ilic  2:10  
    We need your help as well go to Australian podcast awards.com forward slash vote and vote for us and the people Choice Awards. And if you do, Lewis and I will read out all 3000 of your names.

    Lewis Hobba  2:21  
    I mean, sure. It's a it's a it's his new podcast. We're starting. Lewis and Dan ratings. I'm recording mine. But that is

    Dan Ilic  2:29  
    actually that's just every other podcast that does like Wikipedia. True Crime stuff. I writ

    • 37 min
    Brand new 50 year old Submarines — Zoë Coombs Marr, Concetta Caristo, Lidia Thorpe, Lewis Hobba, Dan Ilic — October 30th

    Brand new 50 year old Submarines — Zoë Coombs Marr, Concetta Caristo, Lidia Thorpe, Lewis Hobba, Dan Ilic — October 30th

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    THIS WEEK'S PODCAST:
    We check the receipts for Senate Estimates, get into branding with NIXVM cult, and celebrate Kim Kardashian’s Birthday in a totally normal way.

    We also talk with Senator. Lidia Thorpe about the sacred grove of Djab Wurrung trees that are being felled to make way for a highway duplication.

    To express your anger at the destruction of 800 years of Djab Wurrung culture, and therefore Australian culture, email your local Victorian State MP.

    Here’s a few to get you started:






    Dan Ilic
    Lewis Hobba
    Concetta Caristo
    Zoë Coombs Marr
    Senator. Lidia Thorpe

    Zoë is performing at the Two Queers Festival at Giant Dwarf in November. Get tickets here. https://giantdwarf.com.au/events/zoe-coombs-marr/

    Thanks:Big thanks to The Bertha Foundation, our Patreon Supporters and RODE Mics. And post-producer Jacob Round.



    Unknown Speaker  0:00  
    This podcast is supported in part by the Bertha Foundation.

    Dan Ilic  0:05  
    Oh, hello Lewis.

    Lewis Hobba  0:07  
    Hello Daniel. How are you?

    Dan Ilic  0:08  
    I'm well and well have things in your neck of the woods.

    Lewis Hobba  0:11  
    Correct and I don't know if you've heard 2020 my year. I'm okay, I'm having a no right time all things considered.

    Dan Ilic  0:19  
    I know it's a it's a rough time for all sorts of people. But we'll get into that we've got a podcast to discuss those sorts of things. We want to thank our Patreon supporters who have jumped on board this week, including Chris Kohler and Tom crean again, if you want to support us on Patreon you can head over to patreon.com forward slash rational fear and not just a way to support irrational fears buy two carbon offset the emissions of your car with a go neutral sticker. For every $90 sticker go neutral. We'll buy 3.5 tonnes of offsets which is about the yearly emissions of a car and five bucks that comes to us. I've got it I've got a little sticker on the back of my car people think oh, well that 2000 Carolla that's, that's covered. That's good.

    Lewis Hobba  0:58  
    It's the only bloody thing about the show. That is neutral. All right, dad.

    Dan Ilic  1:04  
    Yeah, fuck you, ABC. We're taking positions for left wing inner city lefties. I'm recording my end of irrational fear on gadigal land in your nation's sovereignty was never said. We need a treaty. Let's stop the shark.

    VO  1:17  
    A Russian mafia contains naughty words like bricks cambro gum,

    and section 40 of a rational fear recommended listening by immature audiences.

    Dan Ilic  1:30  
    Tonight after 112 days Melbourne has eased lockdown restrictions However, some hipster cafes have remained closed to be ironic. And water is discovered on the moon but it turns out it can't be used for anything as it's already owned by Angus Taylor. And in just under a week, the season finale of the United States of America is on who will get fine that week. I'm excited. It's Halloween 2020 or as we call it in Australia book quake. This is arrested Oh fair.

    Hello, welcome to rational faith. I'm your host former sexy nurse Dan Ilic. Let's meet our fear mongers for tonight. She's a comedian improviser and radio broadcasting from Sydney her 2019 festival showed loose one so much critical acclaim that it got picked up to be part of the 2020 bats festival at Gryphon theatre company which probably got cancelled, after organise realises that she was a little tireless, just because of COVID-19 is Kanchana Christo.

    Concetta Caristo  2:37  
    Oh my god. Hey, it's me. The cancelled woman. Good to be here.

    Dan Ilic  2:44  
    She's the multiple award winning lockdown special having jewel personality perfor

    • 34 min

Customer Reviews

4.7 out of 5
69 Ratings

69 Ratings

RichardsCommaClare ,

The tall and the short of it.

What they lack in similarity of height, they make up for in similarity of satirical wit, and a cleverness to harness the funniest side of the horrors facing us in the news. Top marks to Dan and Lewis - and the roundabout of friends. As someone with anxiety OCD - it’s always a genuine pleasure to learn maybe your fears aren’t actually quite so irrational after all ;)

Pollietragic ,

Clever funny satire - Oz needs this show

Both Dan and Lewis are sharp witted satirists, and they attract high quality guests. Besides young comedians, it’s good to see occasional qualified specialist guests comment on a current political issue. Go, guys!

djoelquinn ,

Has potential - just not there yet.

A political talk show hosted by left-leaning presenters who touch on topical issues of today mostly in Australia but also around the world at times. The topics are often interesting and they have some good guests on. It could be great but they try too hard to be funny which results in some fairly awkward and clunky exchanges. They should just discuss the issues and when something funny arises naturally then enjoy it. There’s also a strong negative and cynical theme running throughout the podcasts and the presenters would do well to steer clear of such behaviour as its hard to listen to sometimes. A good litmus test for presenters is how much they talk over their guest and stop their guest from finishing their sentences to argue with them. This tends to happen regularly on this show. It’s hard going listening to a presenter talk over a guest. They need to try to remain calm and allow all people to finish their view points.
In summary the podcast can be interesting and has the potential to be a witty irreverent take on local and international politics with interesting guests and view points, they just have some housekeeping and tidying up to work on to make it a great podcast.

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