Authentic and Agentic with Jayson Manship

AI is reshaping the world at a pace humanity has never seen, and the real challenge is not simply understanding the technology. It is learning how to remain deeply human while everything around us accelerates. Authentic & Agentic is the place where leaders come to make sense of that tension. Hosted by serial entrepreneur Jayson Manship, the show pairs clear analysis with honest conversation and real examples you can put into practice. Every episode looks at how AI shows up in the real world, from boardrooms to classrooms to kitchen tables, and explores what it means to build, lead and love in a time shaped by algorithms. The hard things are yet to come. It is time to lean in.

  1. 22 July

    Best of Authentic and Agentic: Eli Lilly AI, Notre Dame ethics and the Reset Act

    Host Jayson Manship looks back at the most impactful conversations on artificial intelligence, business and education in this special best-of episode of Authentic and Agentic. The episode begins with leaders from Eli Lilly detailing how the global pharmaceutical company built a foundational artificial intelligence strategy focused on experimentation, governance and upskilling executives. They highlight a specific partnership with Purdue University that requires senior leaders to complete hands-on technology capstone projects. Manship then revisits a conversation with Megan Sullivan and Adam Kronk from the Institute for Ethics and the Common Good at Notre Dame University. The two philosophers explore the cognitive risks of outsourcing human tasks to technology, comparing reliance on AI to using GPS for navigation. They also warn against the moral dangers of anthropomorphizing tools and treating chatbots like real people. The second half of the episode focuses on protecting children in the digital age. Indiana Secretary of Education Dr. Katie Jenner breaks down state efforts to require parental permission for social media users under the age of 16 and eliminate addictive app features designed for dopamine hits. Finally, U.S. Congresswoman Erin Houchin shares her personal experiences as a parent and discusses her federal legislative push to regulate AI chatbots and update 1996 internet age restrictions through the Aware Act, Safe Bots Act and Reset Act.

    Best of Authentic and Agentic: Eli Lilly AI, Notre Dame ethics and the Reset Act
  2. 16 July

    The midyear AI space race, Claude for coding and Perplexity's Comet browser

    Host Jayson Manship breaks down the six major artificial intelligence models currently dominating the market on this solo episode of Authentic and Agentic. Manship reviews ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, Grok, Microsoft Copilot and Perplexity, offering a practical guide to help listeners choose the best tool for their specific workflows. The episode explores a massive five-week period of midyear updates, including Anthropic releasing Claude Fable 5, the $1.25 trillion merger between X AI and SpaceX to ship Grok 4.5, and OpenAI launching ChatGPT 5.6. Manship analyzes data from the Stanford AI index and blind voting leaderboards, highlighting how automated agents have improved their success rates on real-world tasks to 77% over the past year. He also notes that the artificial intelligence quality gap between the United States and China has shrunk to 2.7%. Manship shares his personal recommendations for the best tool for every job, advising business leaders to avoid tribal loyalty and rent rather than marry their software. He explains why Anthropic's Claude remains the undisputed leader for software coding, why Grok is best for real-time news and how the new Perplexity Comet agentic browser is paying content publishers through a revenue share pool. The episode concludes with a preview of next week's best-of episode while Manship takes a family trip to a Magic the Gathering convention in Amsterdam.

  3. 1 July

    Entrepreneur John Hurley on AI token pricing, Exact Target and the AI jobs rhetoric

    Host Jayson Manship breaks down the latest artificial intelligence news on this episode of Authentic and Agentic. In the news segment, Manship explores an Axios report detailing how technology executives are backtracking on claims that artificial intelligence will cause a white-collar worker bloodbath. He also discusses Anthropic's new Claude Sonnet 5 model and highlights a bipartisan coalition led by former Indiana Gov. Eric Holcomb and Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo aimed at preparing the American workforce for an automated economy. Serial entrepreneur John Hurley joins the podcast to share his 20-year business journey. Hurley details his early days building websites in 1999, a path that led him to create the first database for Angie's List and take equity in Exact Target before it became Salesforce. He also opens up about the difficult lessons he learned from building and eventually selling a massive technology-focused pickleball facility in Fishers. The conversation dives into Hurley's newest venture, Walleta, a platform designed to help artificial intelligence startups manage tokenization and usage-based pricing. Hurley explains how the software connects with upstream providers like ElevenLabs and AWS to show developers their true cost of goods sold, helping business owners avoid massive unexpected API bills. The episode concludes with Hurley comparing the AI revolution to accountants adopting computers, emphasizing how the technology will ultimately level the playing field for small businesses

    Entrepreneur John Hurley on AI token pricing, Exact Target and the AI jobs rhetoric
  4. 23 June

    InnovateMap CEO Mike Reynolds on outcome-based pricing, AI tools and the tech race

    Host Jayson Manship explores the growing gap between artificial intelligence usage and public trust on this episode of Authentic and Agentic. Manship breaks down a Pew Research study revealing that while chatbot usage is up, many young adults view the technology negatively. He also analyzes a New York Times report on the shrinking AI quality gap between the United States and China and highlights a new state initiative to prepare the Indiana workforce for an automated economy. Mike Reynolds, CEO of the Indianapolis digital product agency InnovateMap, joins the podcast to discuss the evolving world of software design. Reynolds explains his firm's shift to an agile, outcome-based pricing model 13 years ago, moving away from traditional hourly billing. He breaks down the critical difference between engineering a product correctly and designing the right product for consumers. The conversation delves into practical AI adoption in the workplace. Reynolds shares how InnovateMap fosters a culture of innovation through a weekly Monday morning AI show-and-tell session for employees rather than a top-down mandate. He warns business leaders against using automated tools to accelerate fundamentally flawed user experiences, emphasizing the need for strong brand foundations. The episode wraps up with Reynolds sharing his thoughts on preserving human companionship, managing screen time and finding joy in hobbies like playing Magic the Gathering.

    InnovateMap CEO Mike Reynolds on outcome-based pricing, AI tools and the tech race

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AI is reshaping the world at a pace humanity has never seen, and the real challenge is not simply understanding the technology. It is learning how to remain deeply human while everything around us accelerates. Authentic & Agentic is the place where leaders come to make sense of that tension. Hosted by serial entrepreneur Jayson Manship, the show pairs clear analysis with honest conversation and real examples you can put into practice. Every episode looks at how AI shows up in the real world, from boardrooms to classrooms to kitchen tables, and explores what it means to build, lead and love in a time shaped by algorithms. The hard things are yet to come. It is time to lean in.

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