Between The Lines

Leanne Tran & Chelle Griffin

Chelle and Leanne are avid readers, mothers, and both work therapeutically with families. We read the books, and share perspectives on how they can add value to your life.

  1. BOOKCLUB SPECIAL: Someone Else's Child

    11 JAN

    BOOKCLUB SPECIAL: Someone Else's Child

    If you'd like to join our book discussions, you're always welcome inside the Between the Lines Book Club. The details are in the show notes.  Join us for the next chapter. You can join our bookclub here BOOKCLUB SPECIAL: Someone Else's Child with Kylie Orr Step into this thoughtful and engaging conversation as Chelle sits down with author Kylie Orr to talk about her debut novel Someone Else's Child and the long, winding road to becoming a published author. Together, they explore the heart of the novel, female friendship, community generosity, moral grey areas, and the emotional complexity that emerges when a child is unwell and a whole town rallies to help. Kylie reflects on empathy, boundaries, and how easily good intentions can become complicated. The conversation also touches on her second novel The 11th Floor, writing trauma with care, and the persistence required to keep going through years of rejection. You'll hear: How Someone Else's Child explores loyalty, power imbalance, and the limits of empathy Why community fundraising raises uncomfortable but important questions Kylie's seven-year journey from first draft to book deal What rejection taught her about resilience and backing herself How The 11th Floor differs in pace, structure, and psychological intensity Discussion prompt: This book asks us to reflect on generosity, trust, and judgement. When you donate or show up for someone in crisis, where do you think responsibility ends, and empathy begins? P.S. Someone Else's Child is a compelling read for anyone who loves slow-burn psychological fiction that asks hard questions about friendship, morality, and what we owe each other in moments of crisis.

    22 min
  2. BOOKCLUB SPECIAL: Dear Digital We Need to Talk

    23/11/2025

    BOOKCLUB SPECIAL: Dear Digital We Need to Talk

    Dear Digital, We Need to Talk: Reclaiming Our Human Operating System with Dr. Kristy Goodwin In this insightful and energising conversation, Chelle and Leanne sit down with digital wellbeing expert Dr. Kristy Goodwin to unpack her book Dear Digital, We Need to Talk — a science-backed guide to navigating technology in a way that honours how our brains and bodies are actually designed to function. Drawing on neurobiology, peak-performance research, and years of working with high achievers, Kristy explains why so many of us feel constantly "switched on but powered down," and how small, realistic micro-habits can help us reclaim focus, energy, and calm in a digitally intense world. From the story behind the book's title, to understanding chronotypes, stress responses, and our ultradian rhythm, this episode is full of practical takeaways and laugh-out-loud moments (including tech glitches that prove the point). Whether you're an executive, a business owner, or someone simply tired of feeling overwhelmed by screens, this conversation will reshape the way you think about digital life. You'll hear: Why digital detoxes don't work — and what actually does How to align your tech habits with your human operating system The role of ultradian rhythms and why breaks boost—not hinder—productivity Simple strategies like physiological sighs, tech curfews, and 30-second eye resets Why connection, "white space," and tiny micro-habits are essential for wellbeing How walking, nature, and even shower thoughts restore creativity and reduce stress The gender wellbeing gap and why women are facing higher levels of digital burnout Discussion prompt: Kristy says big changes come from small hinges — tiny habits that support our biology. What's one micro-habit you want to try this week to feel more "powered up" in your digital life? Tell us on Instagram or in the book club.   P.S. Dear Digital, We Need to Talk is an incredibly accessible, practical, and compassionate read — perfect for anyone craving a healthier relationship with technology without giving it up.

    47 min
5
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11 Ratings

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Chelle and Leanne are avid readers, mothers, and both work therapeutically with families. We read the books, and share perspectives on how they can add value to your life.