Blak N White with Tammy and Nathan Baart

Blak N White
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Educating, advocating and amplifying Indigenous Perspectives and Knowledges, Ways of Being, Thinking and Doing to bridge the gap and translate between two worlds. For people who want to listen, learn, unlearn and relearn about honouring Aboriginal culture. Walk together on a journey towards reconciliation and understanding the effects of colonisation in this land we call Australia. Never stuck in problem-based discussion, we delve into actions and strategies. WARNING: This may be triggering for Indigenous viewers. To find out more about Blak Ignited, visit https://www.facebook.com/blakignited

  1. 11 Apr

    Compliance or Curiosity? Why Following the Rules Isn’t Changing Anything

    Most people think change comes from doing the right thing. Following the policy.Using the right language.Ticking the boxes. ...But what if compliance is actually the thing holding us back? In this episode of Blak N White, we explore the tension between compliance and curiosity — and why one keeps systems exactly as they are, while the other creates the conditions for real change. Because compliance looks like progress… but often it’s just control, safety, and risk management dressed up as action. And when that happens, people stop asking questions. They stop reflecting. They stop growing. Curiosity, on the other hand, asks something different. It invites discomfort.It challenges assumptions.It requires us to look at ourselves, our systems, and the impact we’re having — even when it’s inconvenient. In this conversation, we unpack: How compliance shows up in organisations, schools, and leadership spacesWhy “doing the right thing” doesn’t always lead to meaningful changeThe risks of performative action and box-ticking approachesWhat curiosity looks like in practice — beyond surface-level questioningHow to move from compliance → reflection → responsibilityWhy curiosity is essential for cultural intelligence, allyship, and systems change This episode is an invitation to pause and ask: Am I following the rules… or doing the work? Because real change doesn’t come from compliance alone. It comes from the courage to stay curious — and the responsibility to act on what you find. If this episode challenges how you’ve been approaching the work — stay with it. That’s where growth begins! #BlakNWhite #CulturalIntelligence #Allyship #Leadership #SystemsChange

    44 min

  2. 23 Mar

    When Shame Takes Over… Nothing Changes

    Most people think shame is part of doing this work properly. But what if shame is actually the thing keeping you stuck? In this episode of Blak N White, we unpack the difference between shame and restoration — and why confusing the two can stop real change before it even begins. When shame takes over, people don’t step forward. They shut down. They get defensive. They go quiet or they centre themselves in ways that shift the focus away from what actually matters and when that happens… nothing changes. But there is another way. Restoration doesn’t remove responsibility — it grounds it in relationship, repair, and forward movement. In this conversation, we explore: How shame shows up in allyship, leadership, and organisationsWhy shame often leads to silence, avoidance, or performative responsesThe difference between being called in… and collapsingWhat restoration looks like in practice — not just intentionHow to stay present in discomfort without centring yourselfMoving from reaction → responsibility → repairThis is about helping people do better — in ways that protect relationship, accountability, and Indigenous agency because the goal isn’t to sit in shame. It’s to restore what’s been impacted — and change how we show up moving forward.

    37 min

  3. 2 Feb

    Ownership or Stewardship? The Choice Shaping How We Lead and Live

    What happens when we confuse ownership with responsibility? In this episode of Blak N White, Tammy and Nathan unpack a powerful tension shaping leadership, systems, workplaces, and everyday relationships: Ownership — a dominant Western way of beingStewardship — an Indigenous way of being Ownership prioritises control, possession, authority, and individual entitlement. It asks, “What’s mine?” and “How do I protect or manage this?” Stewardship, through an Indigenous lens, asks something deeper: What am I responsible for caring for — even if I don’t own it? This episode explores: How ownership thinking shows up in leadership, education, organisations, and systems Why stewardship is relational, ethical, and grounded in obligation rather than control The impact each approach has on people, Country, culture, and future generations Everyday, recognisable examples of both Ways of Being in action This conversation invites listeners to slow down and reflect:Where have we been taught to claim, manage, or extract — instead of care, protect, and honour? To go deeper, the Our Systems, Our Stories reflective card deck visually contrasts dominant Western conditioning with Indigenous Ways of Being, offering a practical tool for dialogue, reflection, and change. 🔗 Explore the cards via Blak Ignited:https://www.blakignited.com.au/resources This episode is about remembering our role as stewards — not owners — of people, systems, and the future.

    42 min

  4. 21 Jan

    Fear or Responsibility? Two Ways of Being That Shape Everything

    What if the tension we feel in workplaces, schools, leadership, parenting, coaching and everyday life isn’t about people — but about the Ways of Being we’ve been conditioned into? In the opening episode of the new season of Blak N White, Tammy and Nathan return with deeper lived experience, sharper language, and a clearer lens to unpack one of the most defining contrasts shaping our world today: Fear — the dominant Western driverResponsibility — an Indigenous Way of Being Fear shows up as control, urgency, compliance, perfectionism, and the need to manage outcomes. It teaches us to protect systems, status, and certainty — often at the cost of relationships, wellbeing, and truth. Responsibility, through an Indigenous lens, is something entirely different. It is relational. It is grounded in accountability to people, place, and future generations. It asks not “How do I protect myself?” but “What am I responsible for here?” In this episode, Tammy and Nathan explore: How fear-based conditioning quietly shapes leadership, education, sports coaching, work, and family life. What responsibility and fear looks like. Everyday, recognisable examples of both Ways of Being in action. Why responsibility is not about blame — but about care, obligation, and integrity This conversation sets the foundation for the season, inviting listeners to notice the systems they’ve inherited, the stories they’ve been taught, and the choices they now have. If this episode resonates, you can explore these contrasts further through the Our Systems, Our Stories reflective card deck — a visual and practical tool designed to surface dominant conditioning and re-centre Indigenous Ways of Being in real, usable ways. 🔗 Explore the cards via Blak Ignited:👉 https://www.blakignited.com.au/resources  This is not about choosing sides, it's about choosing a different path to walk. It’s about choosing responsibility — and understanding what that truly asks of us.

    39 min

  5. 18/09/2024 ·  Bonus

    Bonus episode - Culturally Responsive…

    In this special bonus episode of Blak N White, Tammy and Nathan step away from the mic… instead you’ll find a dive into Zaretta Hammond's influential book, "Culturally Responsive Teaching and the Brain." While the title highlights teaching, the insights within extend far beyond the education sector, offering valuable applications for leaders, organizations, and individuals alike. Listen and lean in as Hammond’s key concepts are unpacked, exploring how culturally responsive practices can enhance engagement, promote inclusivity, and foster a deeper understanding of diverse perspectives in any setting. This episode is essential listening for anyone looking to cultivate an environment that values and embraces cultural differences, whether in the classroom, workplace, or community.

    11 min

  6. 10/09/2024

    I don't subscribe to that!

    Get ready for a powerful new episode of Blak N White! This week, Tammy and Nathan tackle the crucial topics of stereotypes, cultural narratives, and representation. They dig into how media and schools shape—and often skew—our perceptions of identity and culture, challenging you to rethink the mainstream narratives that surround us. In this episode, Tammy and Nathan break down how these narratives impact our worldview and offer fresh perspectives on navigating and disrupting these dominant stories. Whether you’re an educator, a leader, or simply curious about the forces that influence our beliefs, this episode is packed with insights that will make you rethink and reshape your understanding of cultural representation. Don’t miss out—tune in to engage with a conversation that’s set to provoke thought, inspire change, and amplify diverse voices. Join us for a discussion that’s as enlightening as it is transformative. Links mentioned: Pathways to Belonging: Cultivating Cultural Intelligence PD on Sunshine Coast with Riley Callie Resources. Riley Callie Resources Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rileycallieresources Blak Ignited Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/blakignited

    36 min

  7. 26/08/2024

    Starting from the roots!

    In this new season of Blak N White, Tammy and Nathan take a step back to explore the foundational cultural reference points that have shaped their lives and perspectives. The journey begins with a gentle, yet profound conversation about the differences in their family dynamics and upbringings, offering a safe space to discuss how these early experiences have influenced their identities. As this season unfolds, prepare for an in-depth exploration of deeply personal viewpoints and experiences that have moulded the hosts' worldviews, biases, and stereotypes. This is not just a podcast—it's a transformative journey designed for anyone looking to become a more conscious and inclusive leader. It's especially valuable for leaders and educators seeking to understand perspectives different from their own lived experiences. Join us as we embark on this enlightening journey, aiming to educate, advocate, translate, and amplify Indigenous voices. Blak N White is more than just a discussion—it's a call to action for building bridges of understanding in a diverse world.

    35 min

  8. 28/01/2024

    Mind your business: Men's and Women's business!

    In this impactful episode of "Blak N White," Nathan and Tammy guide us through a reflection on the events of January 26th—Australia Day and Invasion Day. As the nation grapples with the dual narratives surrounding this date, we provide nuanced insights into the significance of acknowledging both perspectives. The episode primarily delves into the complexities of Men's and Women's Business within Indigenous cultures—sacred practices and responsibilities that hold deep cultural and spiritual importance. Nathan and Tammy demystify this approach, explaining why it is a vital component of Indigenous Ways of Being, Thinking, and Doing. From initiation ceremonies to women's gatherings, the hosts explore the beauty and purpose behind these cultural practices. As the conversation unfolds, attention turns towards the importance of understanding Men's and Women's Business into educational and corporate settings. The hosts share strategies on navigating these cultural nuances in schools and businesses, emphasising the need for cultural sensitivity, understanding, and collaboration. From curriculum development to workplace policies, this episode provides actionable insights for creating environments that respect and honour Indigenous traditions. Tune in to this thought-provoking episode of "Blak N White" as Nathan and Tammy lead us through a compassionate exploration of cultural tapestry, weaving together reflections on January 26th, the intricacies of Men's and Women's Business, and practical guidance on fostering cultural respect in educational and professional spheres. It's not just a conversation; it's a step towards building bridges of understanding and unity. #ReflectAndRespect

    34 min
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Educating, advocating and amplifying Indigenous Perspectives and Knowledges, Ways of Being, Thinking and Doing to bridge the gap and translate between two worlds. For people who want to listen, learn, unlearn and relearn about honouring Aboriginal culture. Walk together on a journey towards reconciliation and understanding the effects of colonisation in this land we call Australia. Never stuck in problem-based discussion, we delve into actions and strategies. WARNING: This may be triggering for Indigenous viewers. To find out more about Blak Ignited, visit https://www.facebook.com/blakignited

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