Brand Builders

Brand Builders

Scaling an eCommerce brand is hard. The intention for this podcast is simple; to have interesting, insightful & authentic conversations with successful brand builders. We want to provide real world stories and helpful, practical information about what’s currently working to help you build your own seven and eight figure brand. We release an episode every week on Sunday afternoon, so if you’re looking for actionable, no BS eCom insights, hit subscribe and stay tuned!

  1. 6 MAR

    Building A 9 Figure Agency HoldCo | Peter Kang

    He built an agency. Then stepped out of it. And now he’s building a holding company with the goal of hitting nine figures. Today’s guest is Peter Kang, founder of agency holding company Barrel. He’s also the author of “Holdco: The Practical Guide for Entrepreneurs to Structure and Scale a Holding Company.” In this episode, we unpack: 🔥 How Peter transitioned from founder-operator to holding company builder. 🔥 What the structure of a truly healthy agency looks like — from margins to management layers. 🔥 How he sources, analyses, and structures acquisition deals. 🔥 And why stepping out of day-to-day operations is the real unlock for long-term scale. If you want to understand how to turn agencies into assets — and build a portfolio that compounds toward nine figures — this episode is for you. Chapters: 00:00 – From agency founder to holding company builder 01:59 – The story behind writing his book 04:54 – Peter’s background and early entrepreneurial path 08:30 – Stepping away from day-to-day operations 12:42 – Why founders become the bottleneck 14:15 – Building management layers that scale 17:37 – Accountability structures inside a holding company 19:43 – Hiring externally vs promoting internally 21:32 – Managing CEO transitions after acquisitions 24:35 – What a healthy agency P&L actually looks like 30:01 – Understanding churn in agency models 34:19 – Reinvesting profits to grow agencies 38:36 – Lead generation channels that work 41:28 – Building partnerships with other agencies 45:08 – Diversifying channels vs staying focused 47:06 – Why some agencies decentralize marketing 48:14 – Value-based pricing strategies 53:31 – The airline pricing analogy 55:40 – Single-service vs full-service agency models 59:46 – Acquisition strategies in the eCommerce space 01:03:14 – Preparing agency portfolios for the AI shift 01:05:22 – Why Peter moved from startups to acquisitions 01:08:56 – How he sources and evaluates acquisition deals 01:12:15 – Red flags that kill acquisition deals 01:15:03 – The thought process behind structuring deals 01:18:11 – Advice for agency founders who want to exit 01:21:32 – Scaling toward a nine-figure vision 01:24:47 – The role of mission and values 01:27:03 – The best way founders should reinvest in themselves

    1h 29m
  2. 2 MAR

    Building a $70M SEO Marketplace | Joe Davies

    He turned a simple SEO service into a $70 million business. And rebuilt the agency model into something that actually scales. Today’s guest is Joe Davies — founder of FatJoe, a productized SEO platform doing $15 million a year, trusted by thousands of agencies and in-house teams around the world. In this episode, we unpack: 🔥 Why Joe stopped thinking like an agency — and rebuilt FatJoe as an e-com store selling digital products. 🔥 Why FatJoe chose to serve agencies instead of end clients — and how that unlocked cleaner margins and simpler delivery. 🔥 How selling units of work (not retainers or consulting) made costs predictable and operations scalable. 🔥 And how a no-sales-call, no-negotiation checkout still drives 70%+ repeat monthly customers. If you want to understand how to turn services into a scalable, defensible platform — without bloated teams or constant client management — this episode is for you. Chapters: 00:00 - Building a $70M SEO marketplace 02:05 - Origin of the name "Fat Joe" 03:25 - From agency chaos to eCommerce marketplace 06:35 - Productising services for predictable margins 09:00 - Why traditional SEO agencies break 11:21 - Agency vs in-house: which actually wins? 12:51 - Protecting margins while scaling 15:16 - Building systems that create consistent delivery 18:18 - Productisation without sacrificing customer experience 23:18 - Why most brands misunderstand backlinks 25:42 - Revenue streams and upsells that increase LTV 29:45 - How Fat Joe is structured to scale 33:30 - Managing a large team without losing control 35:10 - Hiring operators, not just marketers 40:40 - The sales engine behind predictable growth 44:09 - Anatomy of a high-converting sales call 47:57 - Lead generation channels that actually work 50:47 - Events as a brand-building strategy 52:45 - Advertising success and Google Ads strategy 55:50 - Pricing strategy and increasing LTV 58:41 - Creating a chrome extension for SEO 01:00:52 - Leadership roles and responsibilities 01:02:48 - What Joe actually works on day-to-day 01:05:43 - When to double down vs pivot 01:07:29 - The metrics that determine real success 01:10:24 - Marketplace economics explained 01:11:51 - The future of SEO in an AI world

    1h 13m

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Scaling an eCommerce brand is hard. The intention for this podcast is simple; to have interesting, insightful & authentic conversations with successful brand builders. We want to provide real world stories and helpful, practical information about what’s currently working to help you build your own seven and eight figure brand. We release an episode every week on Sunday afternoon, so if you’re looking for actionable, no BS eCom insights, hit subscribe and stay tuned!