Future People

Dan Moussa
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Future People is a bold, future-focused podcast hosted by Dan Moussa, founder of Thirdway Advisory and one of Australia’s most connected talent advisors in real estate development, critical infrastructure, and sustainability. Building on the success of The ESG & Sustainability Podcast—which peaked at #15 on Apple’s Business Charts—Future People widens the lens to explore the stories and strategies of those shaping what’s next. Each episode features unfiltered conversations with leaders who are rethinking value, legacy, and leadership in a world being rebuilt—from cities and capital to climate and culture. Whether you’re an industry leader, a future thinker, or simply curious about the people steering tomorrow’s change, Future People offers rare insights into the minds of those driving progress across business and society. 🎧 Subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen. 💬 Connect with us on [social handles]. Insta - Thirdway_Advisory LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/thirdway-advisory-pty-ltd/ Youtube - @ThirdwayAdvisory 🌐 Learn more at www.thirdwayadvisory.com.au. Produced by The Podcast Boss

Episodes

  1. 5 FEB

    From High Performance to Hitting Bottom: Leadership, Addiction and Identity with Kent Bray

    What happens when relentless high performance goes unchecked? In this powerful episode of Future People, Dan sits down with Kent Bray to unpack the hidden cost of elite sport, City trading floors, and the constant pressure to win. Kent’s journey is extraordinary. From elite rugby in Australia and the UK, to the intensity of the London trading floor at Citibank, his drive for excellence pushed him to the very top. But it also pushed him into addiction, isolation, and near collapse. Together, Dan and Kent explore: The psychology of high performance and why it can quietly turn destructive The loss of identity athletes and leaders face when the game ends Why resilience without self-awareness becomes dangerous How addiction creeps in as a coping mechanism, not a character flaw The realities of life on a trading floor when millions are won or lost in hours Rebuilding identity, purpose, and leadership after hitting rock bottom Now working as a counsellor, Kent brings rare honesty and lived experience to conversations many leaders avoid. This episode is essential listening for executives, founders, former athletes, and anyone operating under sustained pressure. If you have ever felt driven, depleted, or trapped by success, this conversation will resonate.   Links from the Episode: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kent-bray-2199301a0/ https://kentbraycounselling.co.uk/ This episode was brought to you by: Thirdway Advisory www.thirdwayadvisory.com.au   About the Hosts Host: Daniel Moussa - Founder, Thirdway Advisory Dan Moussa is the founder of Thirdway Advisory and one of Australia’s most connected talent advisors across real estate development, critical infrastructure, and sustainability. He hosts Future People, where leaders share how they are redefining value, legacy, and the future of work. Connect on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/daniel-moussa-1307a522   Please contact us if you: Want to come on board as a show sponsor Are interested in joining the show as a co-host Have feedback or suggestions on how to make the show better Produced by The Podcast Boss

    52 min

  2. 22 JAN

    From Trenches to CEO: When the Founder Has to Let Go

    Paul Doherty is the Founder and Managing Director of PD Project Delivery, a Brisbane-based civil engineering and project management business now running roughly 20 projects across Australia with a team of around 50 people. In this conversation, Paul goes past the highlight reel and talks about what scaling actually demands. The identity shift from engineer on site to leader of a business. The discomfort of delegation when your name is on the line. The cashflow pressure that makes you look successful on paper while feeling broke in real life. And the quiet cost of growth, including relationships that fade as you stop being “one of the boys”. We also get into the leadership principles Paul keeps coming back to: turn up, give a damn, be respectful, and stay accountable. Why “being able to take a punch” does not mean you should take every punch. How a simple coffee machine changed the culture and trajectory of a remote project. And why Paul believes relationships and trust are the real engine behind repeat work and hiring great people. If you are building a business, leading teams in high-pressure environments, or trying to grow without losing yourself, this one will land.   Links from the Episode: linkedin.com/in/paul-doherty-69501249 pdprojectdelivery.com This episode was brought to you by: Thirdway Advisory www.thirdwayadvisory.com.au   About the Hosts Host: Daniel Moussa - Founder, Thirdway Advisory Dan Moussa is the founder of Thirdway Advisory and one of Australia’s most connected talent advisors across real estate development, critical infrastructure, and sustainability. He hosts Future People, where leaders share how they are redefining value, legacy, and the future of work. Connect on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/daniel-moussa-1307a522   Please contact us if you: Want to come on board as a show sponsor Are interested in joining the show as a co-host Have feedback or suggestions on how to make the show better Produced by The Podcast Boss

    40 min

  3. 8 JAN

    Ben Alllen. The CEO Who Refused the Easy Way: Accountability, Culture, and Leading in Service

    Ben Allen is the CEO of Pinnacle Training, a business that helps more than 120,000 Australians every year go home safe, skilled, and confident. In this conversation, Ben breaks down the leadership shift that took him from early sales roles into the CEO seat, and the moment he realised results were not enough if he was not taking people with him. We talk about self-awareness as a competitive advantage, why journaling and reflection keep leaders honest, and how to make decisions when you know criticism is guaranteed. Ben also shares how he’s built a culture of real accountability without drifting into micromanagement, why feedback needs to be closer to “elite sport” than annual performance reviews, and his contrarian take on HR, not as a department to offload problems to, but as a responsibility leaders must own. If you care about high standards, servant leadership, and building a team that can run the business without you being the busiest person in the room, this one will land.   Links from the Episode: linkedin.com/in/ben-allen-64b32934 https://www.pinnaclesafety.com.au/ This episode was brought to you by: Thirdway Advisory www.thirdwayadvisory.com.au   About the Hosts Host: Daniel Moussa - Founder, Thirdway Advisory Dan Moussa is the founder of Thirdway Advisory and one of Australia’s most connected talent advisors across real estate development, critical infrastructure, and sustainability. He hosts Future People, where leaders share how they are redefining value, legacy, and the future of work. Connect on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/daniel-moussa-1307a522   Please contact us if you: Want to come on board as a show sponsor Are interested in joining the show as a co-host Have feedback or suggestions on how to make the show better Produced by The Podcast Boss

    48 min

  4. 11/12/2025

    Preparing for Growth: People Strategy in Family-Owned Companies

    Family-owned businesses face a unique challenge as they grow. The legacy, the relationships and the history are strengths, but they also make senior hiring more complex than most leaders admit.  The importance of preparation, alignment and culture mapping before you go to market What good succession planning and market entry look like from a people perspective How leaders can build long-term relationships with talent and search partners, not just run one-off processes It is a practical, honest conversation about setting executives up for success in complex, family-owned environments and using people strategy as a lever for growth rather than an afterthought. Links from the Episode: linkedin.com/in/michaelfieldcom https://www.evettfield.com/ This episode was brought to you by: Thirdway Advisory www.thirdwayadvisory.com.au About the Hosts Host: Daniel Moussa - Founder, Thirdway Advisory Dan Moussa is the founder of Thirdway Advisory and one of Australia’s most connected talent advisors across real estate development, critical infrastructure, and sustainability. He hosts Future People, where leaders share how they are redefining value, legacy, and the future of work. Connect on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/daniel-moussa-1307a522   Please contact us if you: Want to come on board as a show sponsor Are interested in joining the show as a co-host Have feedback or suggestions on how to make the show better Produced by The Podcast Boss

    49 min

  5. 27/11/2025

    When the Mirror Bites Back: Byron Rienstra on Truth, Ego and Real Leadership

    In this powerful episode of Future People, Dan sits down with leadership adviser Byron Rienstra, who has spent more than 25 years working alongside CEOs, boards and founders across Asia and Australia. Together they dive into the uncomfortable, essential questions most leadership books avoid: the difference between management and leadership, why high IQ is often overrated, and why so many “successful” leaders quietly avoid the truth. Byron shares brutal, career-defining lessons, including the global remuneration committee “disaster” that blew up in his face and changed the way he leads forever. He unpacks why promoting the smartest technician often fails, how ego and status make senior leaders less open to feedback over time, and why the real work of leadership is sense making, courage and creating followership, not being the hero with all the answers.       Links from the Episode: linkedin.com/in/byron-rienstra bpartnersgroup.com This episode was brought to you by: Thirdway Advisory www.thirdwayadvisory.com.au   About the Hosts Host: Daniel Moussa - Founder, Thirdway Advisory  Dan Moussa is the founder of Thirdway Advisory and one of Australia’s most connected talent advisors across real estate development, critical infrastructure, and sustainability. He hosts Future People, where leaders share how they are redefining value, legacy, and the future of work. Connect on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/daniel-moussa-1307a522 Please contact us if you: Want to come on board as a show sponsor Are interested in joining the show as a co-host Have feedback or suggestions on how to make the show better Produced by The Podcast Boss

    45 min

  6. 14/11/2025

    Sustainability Without the Spin: Xero’s Tamara Somers on Real-World Impact, SMEs, and What Comes Next

    In this episode of Future People, Dan sits down with Tamara Somers, the global head of Sustainability & Impact at Xero - one of the most influential roles shaping how millions of small businesses navigate sustainability, compliance, and climate action. Fresh off a whirlwind trip to the UK, Tamara dives into the realities of doing sustainability work at scale: the trade-offs, the pragmatism, and why progress matters more than perfection. She unpacks the growing pressure on SMEs to provide sustainability data, how Xero is helping simplify carbon accounting through its partnership with Someday, and why AI is both a massive accelerator and a misunderstood target of criticism. Links from the Episode: https://www.linkedin.com/in/somerstamara/ This episode was brought to you by: Thirdway Advisory www.thirdwayadvisory.com.au   About the Hosts Host: Daniel Moussa - Founder, Thirdway Advisory Dan Moussa is the founder of Thirdway Advisory and one of Australia’s most connected talent advisors across real estate development, critical infrastructure, and sustainability. He hosts Future People, where leaders share how they are redefining value, legacy, and the future of work. Connect on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/daniel-moussa-1307a522   Please contact us if you: Want to come on board as a show sponsor Are interested in joining the show as a co-host Have feedback or suggestions on how to make the show better Produced by The Podcast Boss

    35 min

  7. 30/10/2025

    Your People Are the Brand: The Real Story Behind Employer Branding with Mark Puncher

    Every organisation has an employer brand - whether they realise it or not. But how many actually own it, live it, and use it to attract the right people? In this episode of Future People, Dan sits down with Mark Puncher, Founder & CEO of Employer Branding Australia, to unpack what employer branding really means beyond glossy campaigns and polished job ads. Mark brings more than two decades of experience helping organisations tell their story honestly - building brands that are as real on the inside as they look on the outside. Together they explore: Why your employer brand isn’t a marketing exercise - it’s leadership in action The three essentials of powerful employer branding: proposition, strategy, and storytelling How authenticity and imperfection drive connection (and why scripted videos kill it) The CEO’s role in shaping culture and reputation The “magnet, compass, and blade” test every brand should pass And what the age of AI means for human storytelling and trust If you lead people, hire people, or care about culture - this one’s for you.   Links from the Episode: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markpuncher/ https://www.employerbrandingaustralia.com/ This episode was brought to you by: Thirdway Advisory www.thirdwayadvisory.com.au   About the Hosts Host: Daniel Moussa - Founder, Thirdway Advisory Dan Moussa is the founder of Thirdway Advisory and one of Australia’s most connected talent advisors across real estate development, critical infrastructure, and sustainability. He hosts Future People, where leaders share how they are redefining value, legacy, and the future of work. Connect on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/daniel-moussa-1307a522   Please contact us if you: Want to come on board as a show sponsor Are interested in joining the show as a co-host Have feedback or suggestions on how to make the show better Produced by The Podcast Boss

    45 min

  8. 16/10/2025

    Beyond Culture: Building Teams That Truly Perform. With Neil Tunnah

    Dan sits down with former professional rugby coach and leadership advisor Neil Tunnah to explore what it really takes to build teams that perform at the highest level. From the hidden dangers of “performance restriction” to the overlooked role of culture carriers, Neil shares hard-won lessons from sport and business. His framework of Connection, Clarity, and Consistency offers leaders a practical path to creating environments where people thrive and results follow.   Links from the Episode: https://www.theperformancechain.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/neil-tunnah-0a2071122/ This episode was brought to you by: Thirdway Advisory www.thirdwayadvisory.com.au   About the Hosts Host: Daniel Moussa - Founder, Thirdway Advisory Dan Moussa is the founder of Thirdway Advisory and one of Australia’s most connected talent advisors across real estate development, critical infrastructure, and sustainability. He hosts Future People, where leaders share how they are redefining value, legacy, and the future of work. Connect on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/daniel-moussa-1307a522   Please contact us if you: Want to come on board as a show sponsor Are interested in joining the show as a co-host Have feedback or suggestions on how to make the show better Produced by The Podcast Boss

    1h 12m

  9. 03/10/2025

    Legacy Over Stadiums: Andrew Chapman on Building Queensland’s Future

    Andrew Chapman, CEO of the Queensland Major Contractors Association, joins Dan to unpack how Brisbane 2032 can leave a real legacy beyond stadiums — with transport-first planning, collaborative procurement, and modern methods of construction. From “think slow, act fast” delivery to modular health and housing, Andrew maps the priorities, the pitfalls, and the leadership mindset Queensland needs to turn a record pipeline into long-term value for people, places, and productivity. Links from the Episode: https://qmca.com.au/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-chapman-30711216/ This episode was brought to you by: Thirdway Advisory www.thirdwayadvisory.com.au   About the Hosts Host: Daniel Moussa - Founder, Thirdway Advisory Dan Moussa is the founder of Thirdway Advisory and one of Australia’s most connected talent advisors across real estate development, critical infrastructure, and sustainability. He hosts Future People, where leaders share how they are redefining value, legacy, and the future of work. Connect on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/daniel-moussa-1307a522   Please contact us if you: Want to come on board as a show sponsor Are interested in joining the show as a co-host Have feedback or suggestions on how to make the show better Produced by The Podcast Boss

    47 min

  10. 26/09/2025

    Shaping Tomorrow: Leadership Lessons for City-Shaping Projects

    Dan sits down with seasoned development leader Debbie McNamara to unpack what really delivers complex projects: people, clarity and long-term partnership. From UK PPP lessons to Australian health infrastructure, they explore program-over-project thinking, housing as a system (not a silo), and why culture and relationships outperform contracts when curveballs hit. Debbie also maps the skills future leaders need - adaptability, values, systems thinking and curiosity—and makes the case for welcoming global experience back into Australia.   This episode was brought to you by: Thirdway Advisory www.thirdwayadvisory.com.au   About the Hosts Host: Daniel Moussa - Founder, Thirdway Advisory Dan Moussa is the founder of Thirdway Advisory and one of Australia’s most connected talent advisors across real estate development, critical infrastructure, and sustainability. He hosts Future People, where leaders share how they are redefining value, legacy, and the future of work. Connect on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/daniel-moussa-1307a522   Please contact us if you: Want to come on board as a show sponsor Are interested in joining the show as a co-host Have feedback or suggestions on how to make the show better Produced by The Podcast Boss

    42 min

  11. 05/09/2025

    Adapt or Be Left Behind: AI and the Future of Talent with Marrin Boyd-Andrews

    In this debut episode of Future People, Dan Moussa sits down with Marrin Boyd-Andrews, founder of ProPrompt, to unpack the seismic impact of AI on talent and work. From prompt engineering and human-in-the-loop systems to the rise of personal AI “agents,” Marrin explains why adaptability is the new superpower — and how leaders, recruiters, and job seekers can stay ahead in a world where AI is the great leveler. Links from the Episode: www.proprompt.store https://www.linkedin.com/in/marrinboydandrews/ This episode was brought to you by: Thirdway Advisory www.thirdwayadvisory.com.au   About the Hosts Host: Daniel Moussa - Founder, Thirdway Advisory Dan Moussa is the founder of Thirdway Advisory and one of Australia’s most connected talent advisors across real estate development, critical infrastructure, and sustainability. He hosts Future People, where leaders share how they are redefining value, legacy, and the future of work. Connect on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/daniel-moussa-1307a522   Please contact us if you: Want to come on board as a show sponsor Are interested in joining the show as a co-host Have feedback or suggestions on how to make the show better Produced by The Podcast Boss

    46 min
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About

Future People is a bold, future-focused podcast hosted by Dan Moussa, founder of Thirdway Advisory and one of Australia’s most connected talent advisors in real estate development, critical infrastructure, and sustainability. Building on the success of The ESG & Sustainability Podcast—which peaked at #15 on Apple’s Business Charts—Future People widens the lens to explore the stories and strategies of those shaping what’s next. Each episode features unfiltered conversations with leaders who are rethinking value, legacy, and leadership in a world being rebuilt—from cities and capital to climate and culture. Whether you’re an industry leader, a future thinker, or simply curious about the people steering tomorrow’s change, Future People offers rare insights into the minds of those driving progress across business and society. 🎧 Subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen. 💬 Connect with us on [social handles]. Insta - Thirdway_Advisory LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/thirdway-advisory-pty-ltd/ Youtube - @ThirdwayAdvisory 🌐 Learn more at www.thirdwayadvisory.com.au. Produced by The Podcast Boss

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  • Creator
    Dan Moussa
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    11
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Copyright 2025 All rights reserved.
  • Show Website
    Future People