If You Were In Charge

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If You Were In Charge with Sanam Naraghi Anderlini and Kavita Nandini Ramdas. A radical leadership podcast about people, power & possibilities from ICAN and ADA. Sanam and Kavita represent voices that are rarely heard in podcasting. Two powerful advocates for peace and social justice, women leaders with roots in India and Iran, who have led careers as global citizens at the highest levels. In a world increasingly led by autocratic superpowers, exploiting fear and uncertainty, the premise of If You Were In Charge is simple: for every major problem out in the world, there are ordinary people finding extraordinary solutions. This podcast focuses on those who know the truth of poet June Jordan’s words, “we are the ones we have been waiting for”. Join Sanam and Kavita, each week as they reimagine a better future with thought-provoking discussions and insights from leading global experts. If You Were In Charge is brought to you by ICAN (International Civil Society Action Network). This is an ADA Production.

  1. Raffaella Bolini: Europe's New Arms Race - The Only Winning Move Is Not to Play

    6 DAYS AGO

    Raffaella Bolini: Europe's New Arms Race - The Only Winning Move Is Not to Play

    Italian peace activist Raffaella Bolini was on the streets of the 80s peace movement against the Euromissiles. Forty years later, she's back, pushing back on a Europe planning to spend €6.8 trillion on armaments over the next decade. In conversation with Sanam Naraghi Anderlini and Kavita Nandini Ramdas, she makes the case for common security, the politics of care, and a multipolar Europe of intersectional regions. The only winning move, she argues, is not to play. Sanam and Kavita open the episode with the latest flotilla to be intercepted on the way to Gaza, the unfolding war in Iran, and the absurdity of trillions being spent on defence at the expense of future generations, while everything from healthcare to social services goes without. But not without hope. They also remember the remarkable legacy of Cora and Peter Weiss, whose memorial was held this month, two activists at the forefront of the peace and justice movement for their entire lifetimes. If You Were In Charge is a podcast about people, power and possibilities, brought to you by ICAN subscribe to the ICAN Newsletter! An ADA Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    47 min
  2. Guest Episode: Disrupting Peace

    28 APR ·  BONUS

    Guest Episode: Disrupting Peace

    What beliefs make people willing to commit violence, and what could change their minds? In this episode, we explore what makes individuals vulnerable to white supremacist beliefs, what it means when extremism becomes mainstream, the surprising permeability of these groups, and how to talk to people in your life who express racist ideology. Peter Simi is a professor of Sociology at Chapman University, and an expert on extremist groups and violence in the US. Among his many publications, he is co-author of American Swastika: Inside the White Power Movement's Hidden Spaces of Hate, and Out of Hiding: Extremist White Supremacy and How It Can be Stopped. Find out more about Peter at: https://www.chapman.edu/our-faculty/pete-simi.aspx. Sara Winegar Budge holds a doctorate in Psychology and is a licensed psychologist in Oregon. She is the Director of US Programs at Moonshot, which builds technology to identify and disrupt organized crime, child sexual exploitation, and trafficking, among other forms of abuse and violence. Her clinical work focuses on individuals who are or have been involved in violent extremism. Find out more at https://moonshotteam.com/ In this episode, we talk about Stephen Tyrone Johns, Bridget's former colleague from the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum who was killed by a white supremacist. You can learn more about him, and contribute to a fund in his name, here: https://www.ushmm.org/information/press/in-memoriam/stephen-tyrone-johns-1969-2009. Disrupting Peace is a production of The World Peace Foundation. The show is produced by Bridget Conley and Emily Shaw. Engineering by Jacob Winik and Aja Simpson. Marketing and Social media by Kaelen Song. Show artwork by Simon Fung. This season was partially funded by the Carnegie Corporation of New York. Special thanks to Lisa Avery and Alex de Waal, and the Tufts Digital Design Studio team. Find out more about the World Peace Foundation at worldpeacefoundation.org. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok at @worldpeacefdtn. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    50 min
  3. Anasuya Sengupta: AI, Colonising Knowledge, and Iran's Information War

    20 APR

    Anasuya Sengupta: AI, Colonising Knowledge, and Iran's Information War

    The internet is a monocrop. A plantation of knowledge in English, owned by a handful of mega corporations, built on the bones of colonial infrastructure. And we are no longer just the consumers and as ever we are the product, the training set, the data points. So who gets to imagine the future? This week on If You Were In Charge, Sanam and Kavita sit down with Anasuya Sengupta, co-founder of Whose Knowledge?, a global multilingual campaign to centre the knowledges of marginalised communities (the minoritised majority of the world) online. Anasuya traces a direct line from the telegraph networks of the British Empire to today’s Big Tech monopolies. But this is not just a story of extraction. Anasuya shares what it looks like when voices from the margins reimagine technology. From building sovereign language models in Bangla, Urdu and Hindi, to transforming Wikipedia so that women are no longer invisible. The episode opens with Sanam and Kavita reflecting on the Iran ceasefire, the extraordinary Lego memes coming out of Iran, and what it means when the world is surprised that Iranians have both sophisticated technology and a sense of humour. Anasuya Sengupta — Co-founder of Whose Knowledge? If You Were In Charge is brought to you by ICAN International Civil Society Action Network. Subscribe and get in touch with us via our Newsletter Original Music, Little Monster Media Executive Producer: Pearse Lynch This is an ADA Production Timeline 00:00 — Cold open: Anasuya on “plantation tech” 00:26 — Intro with Sanam and Kavita 00:36 — Hosts discuss the Iran ceasefire, Lego memes, and Iranian political humour 07:15 — Transition to the possibilities theme and Arundhati Roy quote 07:35 — Reflection on the ceasefire moment and what comes next 10:30 — Discussion of Anthropic, AI containment, and Palantir 12:13 — Main interview begins: Anasuya Sengupta on the internet and search 14:30 — Tech solutionism and the polycrisis 16:34 — Colonial history of the internet: telegraph to Big Tech 20:30 — Infrastructure: who owns the message vs the messenger 23:12 — “We are the training set” — AI and data extraction 24:21 — Founding of Whose Knowledge? and feminist tech activism 28:16 — Women’s invisibility in knowledge systems and Wikipedia 33:12 — “If you were in charge” — reimagining tech from the margins 35:37 — Language, plantation tech, and multilingual futures 38:26 — Disability rights and imagining from the margins in 40:09 — Scaling across, not scaling up 43:30 — The right to refusal and feminist archives 47:24 — Representation: necessary but insufficient 49:38 — A growing coalition for change 50:15 — Radical idea: knowledge as a commons 52:59 — Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    54 min
  4. Farhana Yamin, Reetta Toivanen & Rana Dajani: Iran, Gaza Reax - Why Never Again Is Now

    6 APR

    Farhana Yamin, Reetta Toivanen & Rana Dajani: Iran, Gaza Reax - Why Never Again Is Now

    Hospitals in Iran are preparing to evacuate children. International institutions are issuing statements while bombs fall on petrochemical plants. And five women sit down in Berlin to ask: what radical ideas should actually be common sense? This episode of If You Were In Charge opens with hosts Sanam Naraghi Anderlini and Kavita Ramdas in conversation about the Iran crisis. Trump’s threats of escalation, the spectre of nuclear disaster, and the devastating parallel with Gaza. They ask the question that frames the whole episode: have the institutions built by generations of careful, caring work, the UN, the IAEA, international law has finally failed us? Then the episode moves to Berlin, where Sanam and Kavita are joined by three extraordinary guests for a live group conversation recorded at the Robert Bosch Foundation Forum: Farhana Yamin — World-renowned climate lawyer. Attended COP 1 in Berlin in 1995. Now working on global governance and philanthropy for frontline communities. Reetta Toivanen — Finnish legal anthropologist and Professor at the University of Helsinki. Researches refugee knowledge and just transition in Europe. Rana Dajani — Palestinian-Syrian professor of molecular cell biology. Researches the epigenetics of trauma. Founded We Love Reading, now in 78 countries. Together, they tackle: abolishing national borders, valuing care work, why trauma survivors inherit agency (not victimhood), diaspora economies that outperform foreign aid, AI that can’t tell a scientist from a nun, and what it really means to put feminists—of every gender—in charge. If You Were In Charge is brought to you by ICAN⁠ ⁠⁠⁠International Civil Society Action Network⁠⁠⁠⁠ Original Music, Little Monster Media  Executive Producer: Pearse Lynch This is an ⁠⁠⁠⁠ADA Production⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    52 min
  5. Stefanie Fox: Not in Our Name - Jewish Anti-Zionism Amid an Expanding Iran War

    23 MAR

    Stefanie Fox: Not in Our Name - Jewish Anti-Zionism Amid an Expanding Iran War

    What does it mean when the world's largest progressive Jewish organisation says "not in our name"? This week, Sanam and Kavita sit down with Stefanie Fox, Executive Director of Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP), to explore the growing movement of Jewish anti-Zionism in America and beyond. Stefanie walks us through how JVP now three times the size it was three years ago is organising hundreds of thousands of Jews to withdraw their complicity from Israeli apartheid and genocide through boycott, divestment and sanctions campaigns, Israel bonds divestment at city and state level, and deep cultural work reclaiming Judaism beyond Zionism. From the mechanics of how American taxpayer money flows to the Israeli treasury, to the personal cost of leading a movement under legal attack and White House scrutiny, Stefanie offers a clear-eyed, hopeful account of what collective organising can achieve and why refusing the politics of despair is itself an act of resistance. We are also joined by Sanams daughter Soleh joins us from Cambridge. Where she gives her view on JVP and their role in the student protests over Gaza. If You Were In Charge is a radical leadership podcast about people, power, and possibilities, hosted by Sanam Naraghi Anderlini and Kavita Nandini Ramdas. Brought to you by ICAN. An ADA Production. Guest: Stefanie Fox, Executive Director, Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP) Links: Jewish Voice for Peace Wrestling with Zionism storytelling project If You Were In Charge If You Were In Charge is brought to you by ICAN⁠ ⁠⁠⁠International Civil Society Action Network⁠⁠⁠⁠ Original Music, Little Monster Media  Executive Producer: Pearse Lynch This is an ⁠⁠⁠⁠ADA Production⁠ TIMESTAMPED CHAPTER MARKERS 00:00 – 00:33 | Cold Open 00:33 – 01:27 | Intro & Welcome Sanam introduces the episode. Soleh joins from Cambridge. 01:27 – 02:16 | How they got Stefanie 02:16 – 04:36 | Soleh on JVP's cultural impact Separating anti-Zionism from anti-Semitism. 04:36 – 06:28 | JVP's statement on the war on Iran 06:28 – 08:50 | Asymmetric warfare If Iran survives, it's winning. The logic of escalation on all sides. 08:50 – 09:40 | Iran's opposition & the monarchists Both regime and opposition willing to sacrifice the nation. Reza Pahlavi's MAGA-style approach. 09:40 – 11:04 | Global ripple effects Gas shortages in India, Sri Lanka rationing, Pakistan's crisis — the war's worldwide impact. 11:04 – 13:31 | Geography & supply chains Soleh's generation discovering the Strait of Hormuz. 13:31 – 14:13 | Language & culture 14:13 – 15:43 | Happy Nowruz 15:43 – 16:35 | Human cost of targeted killings Larijani's assassination and 100+ civilian deaths. 16:35 – 17:17 | Transition to interview Stefanie welcomed on. 17:17 – 20:07 | Who is JVP? World's largest progressive Jewish org for Palestinian rights. 100+ chapters. Three times the size it was three years ago. 20:07 – 21:05 | Growth amid horror More grassroots power than ever, yet the genocide continues. 21:05 – 23:45 | What is Zionism? Why anti-Zionism? Zionism as political ideology leading to expulsion and ethnostate. True safety through solidarity. 23:45 – 26:23 | Self-censorship & the anti-Semitism smear Sanam on 20 years of self-censorship in America. South Africa parallel. 26:23 – 28:42 | JVP's day-to-day work Three pillars: political, financial, cultural. BDS campaigns and Israel bonds divestment. 27:38 – 30:27 | Israel bonds explained 30:27 – 32:20 | BDS-proofing the economy How Israel uses bonds to underwrite the war economy. Public opinion shifting. 32:20 – 34:31 | Complicity & tax resistance Nuremberg tribunals, aiding and abetting through taxes. BDS as collective action. 35:03 – 39:50 | Culture shift Anti-Zionist Jews since the 19th century. Identity fusion only since 1967. Wrestling with Zionism project. 39:58 – 42:54 | Sanam on Iranian Jews & identity Iran's Jewish community. Being labelled anti-Semitic in America for criticising Israel. 42:54 – 44:44 | Anti-Semitism & Zionism as "cousins" Montague and the Balfour Declaration. Both ideologies rooted in Western nation-state building. 44:44 – 47:17 | Threats, lawsuits & Project Esther Five active lawsuits. Named in Project Esther. On a White House list. 47:17 – 48:46 | Q: Radical idea that should be normal? 47:59 – 49:56 | Q: If you were in charge of US policy? Full divestment, end US funding of Israel, invest in life-sustaining programmes. 50:02 – 51:13 | Q: Billionaire / What gives you hope? No billionaires. Hope = organising and refusing the politics of despair. 51:13 – 53:50 | Tangible wins $30 million divested from Israel bonds in the last month. Mamdani's election. 53:50 – 58:41 | If you were in charge of the media Manufacturing consent. The debunked NY Times piece. Passive voice on Gaza vs. Ukraine. Assassinated Palestinian journalists. 58:41 – 59:32 | Closing "Hope is great, but it's the strategy that really matters." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    1hr 1min
  6. Maya & Nancy Yamout: The Cycle of Violence and Extremism

    9 MAR

    Maya & Nancy Yamout: The Cycle of Violence and Extremism

    We begin with Sanam and Kavita discussing the war in Iran. Sanam shares what she is hearing from inside Iran as US and Israeli forces continue to strike across the country. Reflecting on the school strike, the sinking of a naval vessel by a US submarine, and the election of a new Supreme Leader. She considers where this chaos and violence may ultimately lead. Sanam and Kavita then sit down with Maya and Nancy Yamout, two extraordinary sisters from Lebanon who understand better than most the long-term consequences of war, extremism, and violence. Maya and Nancy Yamout are forensic social workers renowned for their deradicalisation work targeting Islamist extremists within Lebanon's prison system. Following the death of a mutual friend who had joined an extremist group, they co-founded the non-governmental organisation Rescue Me in 2011, focusing on rehabilitating at-risk youth and inmates. This conversation explores the complex world of countering extremism through personal testimony, rehabilitation, and community rebuilding in Lebanon. Maya and Nancy share their experiences working inside prisons, navigating family dynamics, and fostering empathy as a tool to prevent violence. If You Were In Charge is brought to you by ICAN⁠ ⁠⁠International Civil Society Action Network⁠⁠⁠ Original Music, Little Monster Media  Executive Producer: Pearse Lynch This is an ⁠⁠⁠ADA Production⁠ If You Were In Charge Website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    59 min
  7. Sanam on Pod Save The UK - "No Winston Churchill": is the special relationship over?

    6 MAR

    Sanam on Pod Save The UK - "No Winston Churchill": is the special relationship over?

    A world leader has been assassinated, schools and hospitals have been hit, and Donald Trump thinks that Keir Starmer is no Winston Churchill. It’s all kicking off as the US and Israel’s illegal war escalates across the Middle East. All of this with the open admission of no real plan for what comes next.  Struggling to absorb it all? Wondering if there’s another way? British-Iranian peace strategist Sanam Naraghi Anderlini MBE is here to fill us in. She joins Coco and comedian Sophie Duker, who is in the hotseat for Nish this week. Soaring oil prices was not the backdrop Chancellor Rachel Reeves was hoping for ahead of her second Spring Statement. Finalised before the conflict broke out, her economic plan was “Trumped” before it was even delivered - so where does this leave the UK? Plus - just as the UK gets dragged into this latest destabilising conflict, Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood rips up the rules on UK asylum.  Got a burning question for Nish or Coco? Big or small - they will be answered in a special episode! Email: psuk@reducedlistening.co.uk  GUEST Sanam Naraghi Anderlini MBE, founder and CEO of the International Civil Society Action Network (ICAN) USEFUL LINKS Sophie Dukerhttps://thesophieduker.com/ If You Were In Charge with Sanam Naraghi Anderlini and Kavita Nandini Ramdas.https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/if-you-were-in-charge/id1770618616 CREDITS Sophie Duker - Live at the Apollo / BBC One Keir Starmer / XParliament TV PBS News Hour / YouTubeBBC News Zoe Gardner / IGManchester Evening News  Pod Save the UK is a Reduced Listening production for Crooked Media.Get in touch - contact us via email: PSUK@reducedlistening.co.ukLike and follow us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@PodSavetheUKInstagram: https://instagram.com/podsavetheukTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@podsavetheukBlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/podsavetheuk.crooked.comFacebook: https://facebook.com/podsavetheukX: https://x.com/podsavetheuk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    54 min
  8. Ben Cohen: The Ben & Jerry's Co-Founder Declares War on the Pentagon

    24 FEB

    Ben Cohen: The Ben & Jerry's Co-Founder Declares War on the Pentagon

    Welcome back to a new season of If You Were in Charge. This week, we sit down with Ben Cohen, co-founder of Ben & Jerry's, who has built a life creating an ice cream empire while also becoming a passionate activist fighting against military spending, which he believes is irrational and immoral, and is used to keep ordinary people poor and oppressed. We explore his journey from ice cream to activism, and his unwavering belief in the power of collective action. This episode also features Sanam’s daughter, Soleh. Together, they discuss the ongoing Epstein fallout and why it is cutting through the media noise, Marco Rubio’s imperialist speech in Munich, and Iran—along with what America is going to do next. That's this week on If You Were in Charge, the radical leadership podcast about people, power, and possibilities, hosted by Sanam Naraghi Anderlini, founder of ICAN and a peace strategist who has worked with women in conflict zones for over thirty years, and co-host Kavita Nandini Ramdas, senior advisor to the International Planned Parenthood Federation and former head of the Global Fund for Women. If You Were In Charge is brought to you by ICAN⁠ ⁠International Civil Society Action Network⁠⁠ Original Music, Little Monster Media  Executive Producer: Pearse Lynch This is an ⁠⁠ADA Production key topics Ben Cohen's background and activism journey The role of business in social justice Campaign against militarism and Pentagon budget Ben and Jerry's stance on Gaza and Palestine Corporate social responsibility and social mission The importance of collective action and community engagement The influence of personal values on business decisions Strategies for engaging the public on social issues The intersection of peacebuilding and business Inspiration for young activists and entrepreneurs Chapters 00:00 Health Care vs. Militarism 01:50 Public Outrage: Epstein vs. Gaza 04:44 The Role of Youth in Activism 06:44 Political Extremism and Identity 08:50 The Absurdity of Militarism 13:02 Ben Cohen: Activism and Ice Cream 14:29 The Origins of Ben and Jerry's 15:13 Childhood Aversion to Militarism 17:42 Economic Violence and Lead Poisoning 20:57 Connecting Militarism to Everyday Issues 24:59 Human Security vs. National Security 25:26 Activism and Business: A Dual Role 30:44 The Game of Business and Social Responsibility 33:45 Innovative Financing and Community Engagement 35:10 The Balance of Wealth and Fulfillment 37:12 Corporate Responsibility and Social Justice 38:21 Ben & Jerry's Social Mission and Unilever 40:41 Political Stance and Corporate Complicity 42:43 Hope Amidst Outrage and Activism 47:01 Vision for a Better World 49:39 People Power and Collective Mobilization 51:32 Cultural Connections Through Ice Cream Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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If You Were In Charge with Sanam Naraghi Anderlini and Kavita Nandini Ramdas. A radical leadership podcast about people, power & possibilities from ICAN and ADA. Sanam and Kavita represent voices that are rarely heard in podcasting. Two powerful advocates for peace and social justice, women leaders with roots in India and Iran, who have led careers as global citizens at the highest levels. In a world increasingly led by autocratic superpowers, exploiting fear and uncertainty, the premise of If You Were In Charge is simple: for every major problem out in the world, there are ordinary people finding extraordinary solutions. This podcast focuses on those who know the truth of poet June Jordan’s words, “we are the ones we have been waiting for”. Join Sanam and Kavita, each week as they reimagine a better future with thought-provoking discussions and insights from leading global experts. If You Were In Charge is brought to you by ICAN (International Civil Society Action Network). This is an ADA Production.

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  • Creator
    Sanam Naraghi Anderlini
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    37
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Africa Digital Audio Ltd
  • Show Website
    If You Were In Charge

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