The Insurgent Mindset

The Insurgent Mindset

Success in today’s ever-evolving business landscape demands radically different thinking and actions – what we call Insurgence. In this podcast, you’ll discover how to break free from the limitations of the “incumbent” mindset and transform your business by leveraging the “insurgent” mindset. Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. To learn more visit www.insurgencegroup.com.

  1. The Architecture of Learning, Storytelling, and Challenger Thinking with Jamie Engel | Episode 34

    4 MAY

    The Architecture of Learning, Storytelling, and Challenger Thinking with Jamie Engel | Episode 34

    What if the future of learning isn’t about better content—but better design? In this episode, Jamie Engel, founder of Neutopia, breaks down the “architecture of learning” and why most organizations get it wrong. Drawing from a career spanning film, storytelling, and education, he reveals how the convergence of platform, program, and people creates transformational learning experiences—and why storytelling is the most underrated leadership skill in modern business. This conversation explores how leaders can build true learning organizations, harness AI without losing critical thinking, and create cultures driven by curiosity, community, and adaptability. From the hero’s journey as a framework for education to the role of emotion in decision-making, this episode challenges conventional thinking and offers a new blueprint for designing experiences that actually change people—and organizations—for the better. Learn more about Neutopia here: https://neutopia.co/ Connect with Jamie here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamielengel/ -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice

    44 min
  2. Your Next Customer Won’t Be Human: Competing in an AI-Driven Market with Katja Forbes | Episode 33

    20 APR

    Your Next Customer Won’t Be Human: Competing in an AI-Driven Market with Katja Forbes | Episode 33

    What happens when your next customer isn’t human? We sit down with Katja Forbes (author of Machine Customers) and break down the rapid rise of agentic commerce and what it means for business strategy, customer experience, and competitive advantage. With AI agents already making purchasing decisions and retail agent traffic surging by thousands of percent, the shift is already here, and most leadership teams are underestimating just how fast this transformation is unfolding. This conversation explores how AI-powered buyers are reshaping markets, commoditizing brands, and forcing a rethink of everything from marketing to trust to organizational design. From “algorithmic moats” to value-based differentiation, Katja outlines what it takes to stay competitive when machines, not humans, are evaluating your business. If you’re thinking about AI, digital transformation, or the future of commerce, this episode delivers a clear signal in a world full of noise. Learn more and connect with Katja here: https://www.thecxevolutionist.ai/ -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace.  Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com.    Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more.    Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com.   This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice

    52 min
  3. Signal vs Noise: Discernment in a World of Disruption with Stephanie Christopher | Episode 32

    6 APR

    Signal vs Noise: Discernment in a World of Disruption with Stephanie Christopher | Episode 32

    In a world defined by constant disruption, the ability to distinguish between signal and noise has become one of the most critical leadership skills. In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, the conversation explores how mid-market leaders are navigating uncertainty, identifying meaningful trends, and making faster, more confident decisions in an increasingly complex environment. Joined by Managing Director of Vistage ANZ, Stephanie Christopher, drawing on her insights from peer advisory networks and real-world leadership experiences, the discussion unpacks how CEOs are evolving their approach to AI, from early curiosity to practical application, and why the real opportunity lies not just in efficiency, but in growth. The episode also explores the ongoing challenges of talent, the realities of a multi-generational workforce, and the importance of strategy and execution in a rapidly shifting market. At the core of the conversation is a deeper leadership capability: discernment. The ability to read signals, trust instinct, absorb diverse perspectives, and act decisively is what separates those who disrupt from those who are disrupted. For leaders looking to stay ahead in 2026, this episode offers a grounded perspective on how to build adaptability, sharpen judgment, and operate with clarity in a noisy world.--Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo MosesProduced by Faith MoavenzadehOriginal Music by Caius Tice Connect with Stephanie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephaniechristopherceo/

    44 min
  4. Don’t Let Private Equity Catch You with Your Pants Down | Episode 31

    23 MAR

    Don’t Let Private Equity Catch You with Your Pants Down | Episode 31

    Most mid-market CEOs believe they’re building valuable businesses, but when private equity shows up, they quickly discover how much value they’ve left on the table. In this episode, we break down the critical difference between two types of leaders: those who manage for performance, and those who architect for enterprise value. Using a simple example of two identical $5M EBITDA businesses with dramatically different outcomes, the conversation reveals why valuation multiples (not just growth) determine real wealth creation. The episode explores the shift from being a “taker” to a “maker”, from reacting to deals on the back foot to proactively engineering a business that commands premium valuations. From leadership dependency and customer concentration to scalable models, defensible advantages, and buyer-specific value drivers, this is a deep dive into how sophisticated investors think and how leaders can stay ahead of them. Because if you’re not actively building for value, someone else will. -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace.  Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com.    Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more.    Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com.   This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice

    43 min
  5. 21 MAR

    An Analysis of the Economic, Political, and Military Impacts of the War in the Middle East | BONUS

    In this timely bonus episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt and Rondo unpack the economic, political, and military impacts of the ongoing conflict in the Middle East. From rising fuel costs and inflationary pressure to tightening capital and increasing recession risk, the conversation explores how early shockwaves are already affecting global markets and business decision-making. The episode also examines how different actors are playing fundamentally different strategic games - military, political, and economic - and why this misalignment is prolonging uncertainty and complicating any path to resolution. Ultimately, the focus turns to what this means for leaders. In a volatile, supply-constrained environment, success will depend on scenario planning, strategic positioning, and the ability to move decisively while others hesitate. -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace.  Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com.    Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more.    Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com.   This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice

    44 min
  6. Doing Things Right vs Doing The Right Things | Episode 30

    9 MAR

    Doing Things Right vs Doing The Right Things | Episode 30

    Too often, companies treat efficiency as the goal, focusing on cutting costs and eliminating waste. But productivity is something different entirely: it’s about creating more value for customers and the market. The discussion unpacks how organizations frequently become highly efficient at the wrong things, leaving significant value on the table.    Matt and Rondo explore the strategic tension between doing things right (efficiency) and doing the right things (productivity), highlighting why leaders must intentionally allocate limited resources toward activities that increase output and customer value. From AI adoption and workflow redesign to system-wide thinking across operations, finance, and people management, the conversation reveals how companies often optimize individual functions instead of the entire business system, which ultimately limits firm productivity and long-term growth.    This episode challenges leaders to rethink their metrics, resource allocation, and operational mindset, shifting away from efficiency for efficiency’s sake and toward value creation, strategic productivity, and sustainable business performance.  -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace.  Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com.    Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more.    Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com.   This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice

    50 min
  7. The Resilience Advantage: Why Future-Proof Businesses Think Beyond Strategy with Renae Hanvin | Episode 29

    23 FEB

    The Resilience Advantage: Why Future-Proof Businesses Think Beyond Strategy with Renae Hanvin | Episode 29

    In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, we sit down with Renae Hanvin, Founder and CEO of Resilient Ready, to explore why resilience is emerging as one of the most critical capabilities for modern organizations. Drawing on her background in crisis management, corporate responsibility, and disaster recovery, Renae shares how her work now focuses on helping small businesses, governments, and enterprises build practical, everyday readiness in the face of disruption, uncertainty, and rapid change. The conversation challenges the traditional view of resilience as a reactive exercise reserved for worst-case scenarios. Instead, Renae outlines how leaders can embed resilience into daily operations through simple, behavior-driven actions, applying principles like the 80/20 rule to prepare for the majority of disruptions - whether economic, technological, or environmental - without creating complex planning frameworks that businesses rarely use. From the role of community connection and “social capital” to the opportunity for organizations to become both more productive and more prepared, this discussion reframes resilience as a strategic advantage. For executives, founders, and operators looking to future-proof their organizations, this episode offers a new lens on leadership, adaptability, and building businesses that are designed to withstand whatever comes next. Connect with Renae Hanvin or read more about Resilient Ready. -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace.  Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com.    Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more.    Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com.   This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice

    45 min
  8. Bad News Fast: Building an Insurgent Culture as a First-Time CEO | Episode 28 with Rob Lawrence

    9 FEB

    Bad News Fast: Building an Insurgent Culture as a First-Time CEO | Episode 28 with Rob Lawrence

    What does insurgent leadership really look like when the responsibility sits squarely in the CEO seat? In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Rob Lawrence, CEO of Otelier, breaks down the realities of leading through disruption in a laggard industry facing rapid technological change.  The conversation explores how hospitality technology is evolving, why SaaS is undergoing a long-overdue reckoning, and how AI is fundamentally reshaping productivity, organizational structure, and competitive advantage. Along the way, Rob shares candid reflections on the loneliness of the CEO role, the importance of moving faster on hard decisions, and how cultures of accountability, recognition, and learning create real leverage in uncertain markets. This episode is a grounded look at challenger leadership, AI strategy, and what it takes to build momentum when markets are choppy and expectations are rising.  -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace.  Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com.    Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more.    Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com.   This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice

    54 min

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Success in today’s ever-evolving business landscape demands radically different thinking and actions – what we call Insurgence. In this podcast, you’ll discover how to break free from the limitations of the “incumbent” mindset and transform your business by leveraging the “insurgent” mindset. Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. To learn more visit www.insurgencegroup.com.

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