26 MAR

The metrics trap: Why HR data needs context

Most HR dashboards are full of numbers. Few explain what those numbers actually mean. In this episode, Jennifer Ruza, EVP of HR and People Experience at VaynerX, explores why HR data needs context to drive better decisions across the business. Jennifer shares how HR leaders can move beyond surface-level metrics and uncover the story behind the data. From balancing qualitative feedback with quantitative insights to rethinking how turnover is interpreted, she explains how context turns HR data into meaningful business intelligence. You’ll also hear how AI is reshaping the way organizations measure efficiency and impact — and what leaders should keep in mind as they build more data-informed people strategies. Key takeaways: 00:00 Introduction 02:42 Qualitative feedback often highlights issues before quantitative data validates them 06:12 Internal changes and external market context help explain conflicting data points 07:53 Retention and turnover metrics require context to determine if they are healthy for the business 10:22 Talent planning focuses on keeping employees in the right roles to drive business success 14:19 AI is currently best used to free up time for higher-impact tasks rather than strict formulas 17:16 Digitized work will increasingly require project management software to track compressed time 23:20 Running controlled experiments is an effective way to safely measure AI's impact on productivity 28:05 AI provides directional information from large talent data sets to help HR tell a better story 32:12 Talent evaluation balances business output with empathetic behavior and psychological safety Resources mentioned: Jennifer Ruza https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-ruza-65a4331/ VaynerX https://www.linkedin.com/company/vaynerx-llc/ VaynerMedia | Website https://vaynerx.com/ Thank you for listening to the People Proud podcast. If you enjoyed the show, please leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our channel so you never miss an episode. The People Proud podcast is brought to you by HiBob. #PeopleProud #CorporateCulture #HumanResourceManagement #EmployeeEngagement

38 min

15 MAR

Rethinking resilience in the age of burnout with Hebba Youssef at Workweek

In this episode, Hebba Youssef, chief people officer at Workweek and founder of the I Hate It Here podcast and newsletter, joins HiBob’s Tali Sachs and Dr. Ken Matos to unpack how resilience is often misunderstood at work. Hebba challenges the idea that resilience means pushing through at all costs and explores how trust, leadership behavior, goal setting, and organizational self-awareness determine whether teams bend, break, or rebuild during sustained change. Key takeaways: 00:00 Introduction 03:26 Resilience is built through overcoming hardship, not by repeatedly pushing people past their limits 06:20 Trust is built when managers understand people and how work gets done 15:34 Loss of creativity and inspiration is an early signal of burnout 17:40 Changes in everyday behaviors often indicate disengagement before it is spoken 22:38 Unrealistic expectations placed on managers weaken teams and leadership systems 25:47 Honest conversations about fit help employees and organizations move forward 30:10 Sustainable performance depends on reasonable goals and clear prioritization 36:03 Unresolved conflict and defensiveness drain energy needed to do meaningful work Resources mentioned: Hebba Youssef https://www.linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef/ Workweek | LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/workweek-media/ Workweek | Website http://www.workweek.com "Talk To Me Nice" by Minda Harts https://www.mindaharts.com/talktomenice "I Hate It Here" newsletter https://workweek.com/dm/i-hate-it-here-newsletter-og/ “I Hate It Here” podcast https://hateithere.co/podcast/ Thank you for listening to the People Proud Podcast. If you enjoyed the show, please leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our channel so you never miss an episode. The People Proud Podcast is brought to you by HiBob. #PeopleProud #CorporateCulture #HumanResourceManagement

40 min

28 FEB

Flatter orgs, higher stakes: The future of middle managers with Malvika Jethmalani at Atvis Group and Women Shaping AI

As organizations flatten, AI adoption accelerates, and expectations on leaders continue to rise, the manager role is changing fast. Malvika Jethmalani, founder of Atvis Group and Women Shaping AI, joins HiBob to unpack what that shift means in practice. Drawing on her work with PE-backed organizations, she explores why management is becoming more complex, which human skills matter most in an AI-driven world, and how rethinking traditional org charts can unlock underutilized talent and ease burnout. This episode offers a practical, human lens on what it takes to lead well when work and the way we organize it keep evolving. Key takeaways: 00:00 Introduction 02:22 The manager role has become more complex as pressure increases from all directions 05:08 Many managers would step away from leadership roles if career growth did not depend on them 09:51 Sound judgment and discernment remain critical in AI-augmented work 15:34 Power skills such as communication and empathy are becoming key leadership differentiators 23:15 Organizations are moving from org charts to outcome-driven work charts 28:37 Management increasingly involves designing and overseeing human and digital labor 31:25 Creativity, critical thinking, and authentic connection make human work irreplaceable 40:32 Middle managers remain essential for translating strategy into execution Resources mentioned: Malvika Jethmalani https://www.linkedin.com/in/malvikajethmalani/ Atvis Group | LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/atvis-group/ Atvis Group | Website https://www.atvisgroup.com/ Women Shaping AI | LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-shaping-ai/ Women Shaping AI | Website https://www.womenshapingai.org/ Microsoft Work Trend Index https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/worklab/work-trend-index “Irreplaceable” by Pascal Bornet https://www.amazon.com/IRREPLACEABLE-Art-Standing-Artificial-Intelligence/dp/1394264402 Thank you for listening to the People Proud podcast. If you enjoyed the show, please leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our channel so you never miss an episode. The People Proud podcast is brought to you by HiBob. #PeopleProud #CorporateCulture #HumanResourceManagement

42 min

16 FEB

Lost in translation: How to get HR and Finance on the same page

In this episode, Limor Raz, VP of People Foundations and Experience at HiBob, and Joe Garafalo, General Manager of HiBob’s FP&A product line, dig into one of the biggest barriers to strategic growth: misalignment between HR and Finance. Drawing on their own career journeys, they share what happens when these teams move from working in parallel to planning together. From building shared language to aligning data early, they explore how workforce planning becomes a driver of smarter decisions and stronger business outcomes. They also look ahead to the role AI will play in reshaping how organizations approach headcount planning, cost visibility, and long-term people strategy. Key takeaways: 00:00 Introduction 03:47 Why HR and Finance often speak different languages 06:34 How perceptions of “HR” and “Finance” create friction across organizations 09:51 Why HR and Finance should operate as customer service partners to the business 12:23 The challenge of aligning KPIs across people and financial systems 16:38 Why workforce planning needs the same rigor as revenue forecasting 19:44 How org design decisions impact both cost structure and employee experience 24:23 Why finance teams need deeper visibility into people lifecycle data 27:21 How early co-design prevents budget surprises and broken trust 33:42 The role of leadership buy-in in making HR–Finance collaboration work 42:21 How AI is forcing a rethink of headcount and financial planning Resources mentioned: Limor Raz https://www.linkedin.com/in/limor-raz-1634b04/ Joe Garafalo https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-garafalo/ HiBob | LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/hibob/ HiBob | Website https://hibobl.ink/main_page Thank you for listening to the People Proud Podcast. If you enjoyed the show, please leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our channel so you never miss an episode. The People Proud Podcast is brought to you by HiBob. #PeopleProud #CorporateCulture #HumanResourceManagement #EmployeeEngagement

47 min

3 FEB

AI in HR: Navigating the real opportunities and hype with Kyle Lagunas at Kyle & Co

Kyle Lagunas, founder and principal analyst at Kyle & Co, explores the real state of AI in HR, the pressures leaders face, and what it takes to build resilient, people-centric organizations in a rapidly shifting landscape. He shares insights on navigating hype cycles, strengthening HR credibility, and choosing AI tools with intention, rather than reacting to market buzz. Key takeaways: 00:00 Introduction 02:45 AI in HR touches every function, increasing both opportunity and confusion 05:21 AI efforts work best when anchored in clear business problem statements 08:09 Previous tech waves show the value of literacy and practical best practices 10:09 Change resilience and transformation skills become core capabilities for HR teams 13:27 Vendor ethos and credibility matter when selecting AI partners and platforms 18:15 Pilots should measure how AI changes daily work, not just tool metrics 23:57 Cross-functional coalitions help AI initiatives move beyond stalled experiments 28:38 Mapping processes and experiences ensures AI improves HR journeys, not weakens them Resources mentioned: Kyle Lagunas https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylelagunas/ Kyle & Co | LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/kyle-co Kyle & Co | Website http://kyleandco.com HiBob | Website https://www.hibob.com/ Human-Centric AI Council https://kyleandco.com/hcaic/ UNLEASH World https://www.unleash.ai/unleashworld/ Thank you for listening to the People Proud podcast. If you enjoyed the show, please leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our channel so you never miss an episode. The People Proud podcast is brought to you by HiBob. #PeopleProud #CorporateCulture #HumanResourceManagement

31 min

21 JAN

Grow from within or hire externally? How to scale with intent with Cara Hunter at livingHR, Inc.

Cara Hunter, principal consultant at livingHR, Inc., joins us to discuss how companies make intentional decisions about when to grow talent from within and when to hire externally. Cara shares practical guidance on mapping skills, understanding future capability needs, and aligning people's decisions with long-term strategy. She also discusses how organizations can rethink entry-level roles, use AI and globalization as amplifiers for human work, and build transparent, data-informed talent practices that strengthen culture, engagement, and retention. Key takeaways: 00:00 Introduction 02:19 Balancing internal development with external hiring to support future needs 03:33 Strengthening culture and retention through clear career paths and mobility 07:25 Guiding internal candidates who are not yet ready for advancement 10:57 Applying compensation structures and pay transparency to career decisions 16:08 Reimagining entry-level work as AI and globalization reshape early roles 18:25 Elevating retention strategies as entry-level hiring volumes decrease 23:18 Leveraging people data to influence executive decision-making and talent strategy 27:18 Treating every open role as a strategic opportunity rather than a replacement exercise Resources mentioned: Cara Hunter https://www.linkedin.com/in/carahunter1/ livingHR, Inc. | LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/livinghr/ livingHR, Inc. | Website https://livinghr.com/ HiBob | Website https://www.hibob.com/hris-bb-uk/?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=emea_uki_en_search_conv_bing_brand_gen_on_m_d_bofu_other_exact_phrase_&utm_campaignid=579836525&utm_adgroupid=1275435135537102&utm_adid=&utm_matchtype=e&utm_device=c&utm_term=hibob&utm_content=79714800339642&utm_obj=mql_Conversion&utm_funnel=branding&msclkid=f0932be1489618876c9b42f74b571478 Thank you for listening to the People Proud podcast. If you enjoyed the show, please leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our channel so you never miss an episode. The People Proud podcast is brought to you by HiBob. #PeopleProud #CorporateCulture #HumanResourceManagement #EmployeeEngagement

30 min

21 JAN

AI hype, human insight, and the future of work

In this episode, Kenneth Matos, director of market insights at HiBob, explores how organizations can stay ahead of shifting workplace trends, focusing on AI adoption, flexible work models, and employee wellbeing. Using fresh data and behavioral insights, Ken and Tali revisit 2025’s predictions to uncover what hit the mark, what didn’t, and what it all means for HR and business leaders planning the year ahead. Key takeaways: 00:00 Introduction 03:07 Organizations jumped into AI without a clear strategy 07:35 Distinguishing between AI’s 2025 potential and its 2030 promise 15:39 Reframing AI’s role as a creative collaborator instead of a content creator 19:56 Flexibility remains a stronger retention driver than compensation 30:03 Digital communication norms continue to reshape workplace culture 34:56 Flexibility, control, and clear processes reduce stress across teams 37:01 AI tools simplify access to HR benefits and policy information 43:04 Slowing down to move faster Resources mentioned: Kenneth Matos https://www.linkedin.com/in/drkenmatos/ HiBob | LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/hibob/ HiBob | Website https://hibobl.ink/main_page RAND Corporation https://www.rand.org/ HR Dive https://www.hrdive.com/ McKinsey & Company https://www.mckinsey.com/ Thank you for listening to the People Proud Podcast. If you enjoyed the show, please leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our channel so you never miss an episode. The People Proud Podcast is brought to you by HiBob. #PeopleProud #CorporateCulture #HumanResourceManagement #EmployeeEngagement

45 min

21 JAN

Redefining the future of work with Ronni Zehavi of HiBob

In this inaugural episode of the People Proud Podcast, Ronni Zehavi, CEO and co-founder of HiBob, shares the company’s journey over the last decade and why its People Proud philosophy is key to business success. Amid global shifts—like generational change, the pandemic, and the rise of AI—Ronni explains why people remain every company’s number one asset and how HiBob is helping organizations thrive in the modern world of work. Key takeaways: 00:00 Introduction 02:04 Shifts in the world of work and what leaders need to grasp 09:57 Customers view HiBob not only as HR software, but as a driver of cultural change 16:05 Insights into the future of organizations becoming smaller and more agile 19:47 Balancing technology with human connection and collaboration in modern work 27:25 HiBob’s approach to AI adoption through bottom-up engagement 33:22 The impact of innovation and AI on productivity and work models 38:08 Why unifying HR, Finance, and IT into one platform drives long-term success 40:25 Using AI as a creative partner enhances productivity but still requires critical thinking Resources mentioned: Ronni Zehavi https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronnizehavi/ HiBob | LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/hibob/ HiBob | Website https://hibobl.ink/main_page Thank you for listening to the People Proud Podcast. If you enjoyed the show, please leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our channel so you never miss an episode. The People Proud Podcast is brought to you by HiBob. #PeopleProud #CorporateCulture #HumanResourceManagement #EmployeeEngagement

47 min

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Episodes

The metrics trap: Why HR data needs context

Rethinking resilience in the age of burnout with Hebba Youssef at Workweek

Flatter orgs, higher stakes: The future of middle managers with Malvika Jethmalani at Atvis Group and Women Shaping AI

Lost in translation: How to get HR and Finance on the same page

AI in HR: Navigating the real opportunities and hype with Kyle Lagunas at Kyle & Co

Grow from within or hire externally? How to scale with intent with Cara Hunter at livingHR, Inc.

AI hype, human insight, and the future of work

Redefining the future of work with Ronni Zehavi of HiBob

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