Klimatic Scale

Klimatic Group

Klimatic Scale is a show about commercial scale in energy, built environment, and mobility innovation - the sectors core towards reaching net zero goals in Europe. So why are we stalling? Join award-winning ecosystem builders Aneri and Dash as they discuss best ways to scale with industry leaders, entrepreneurs, and experts. We cover: 1. Success stories and what works from pilot to scale 2. Specific industry cases & success stories, dissected and analyzed 3. What works best for speedy commercialization to get to net zero klimaticgroup.substack.com

  1. 13 HRS AGO

    Scaling Battery Tech to Meet the AI Transition's Energy Needs

    Nyobolt was founded in 2019 by Professor Dame Clare Grey and Dr. Sai Shivareddy, building on research from the University of Cambridge. Nyobolt is a battery technology company focused on ultra-fast charging, high-power energy storage. It builds battery systems and related power electronics for applications like data centers, electric vehicles, robotics, heavy-duty equipment, grid storage, and other industrial uses that need rapid charging and reliable uptime. The company develops proprietary battery materials, cell designs, and integrated software/power electronics to deliver very fast charging without the usual tradeoff of rapid battery degradation. Its technology is positioned for demanding use cases such as warehouse automation, commercial vehicles, grid support, and AI/data-center infrastructure. Connect with Annie on LinkedIn here. 00:00 Solving the problem03:48 Nyobolt’s solution06:10 Commercializing from the lab08:18 Figuring out where to start when there are many use cases09:33 Inbound to scaling step by step17:44: How to be disciplined with customer inquiry21:30: Defining success23:37: The power of testimonials and referrals Super-fast charging batteries are becoming infrastructure, not just a mobility feature For years, battery innovation was discussed primarily through the lens of electric vehicles: longer range, lower cost, faster charging. That framing is still relevant, but it is no longer sufficient. The real shift now underway is broader and more consequential. Super-fast charging batteries are emerging as critical infrastructure for data centers, robotics, and commercial electrification, sectors that increasingly run on the logic of always-on uptime rather than occasional use. That distinction matters. In an always-connected economy, the battery is no longer just a store of energy, it is a performance layer. It has to absorb power quickly, discharge predictably, survive repeated cycles, and integrate into systems where downtime is expensive and operational windows are narrow. For hyperscale data centers, warehouse robotics, and high-performance EVs, the demand is shifting from “Can it work?” to “Can it work fast, repeatedly, and at scale?” “We’re solving high-power, ultra-fast charging, long cycle life challenges for an always-on world.” - Annie Wechter That framing captures the market very well. The opportunity is not simply to build a better battery. It is to build a battery that matches the cadence of modern industry. The new demand profile The most important trend in super-fast charging is not just technical progress, it is demand pressure. AI has pushed data centers into a new power era, with GPU-driven workloads creating sudden and substantial spikes in electricity demand. Robotics fleets, meanwhile, are being asked to move faster, stay online longer, and complete more tasks with less human intervention. Commercial EV operators are facing the same expectation: more uptime, less waiting, and tighter total-cost-of-ownership discipline. “Charging taking hours rather than minutes doesn’t work for this new age of 24/7 operations” That is becoming the central business case for this category. Where traditional lithium-ion has been optimized for energy density and long range, these new use cases reward power density, thermal performance, and cycle life. This shift is also changing how customers buy. In the past, battery procurement might have been driven by spec sheets or lab performance. Today, buyers increasingly want proof that a battery can improve an operational metric: robot availability, rack resilience, fleet utilization, or avoided downtime. That changes the sales cycle, but it also creates a more durable value proposition. Data centers are the next battery frontier Among the most compelling new markets is AI infrastructure. Data centers historically relied on backup systems and predictable load profiles. AI is breaking that assumption. Training and inference workloads can create rapid fluctuations in demand, and hyperscalers are under pressure to keep systems stable while managing grid constraints, cost, and resilience. This is why battery companies are moving from EV adjacency into data center power. Annie described its “Dynamic Response System” as a rack-level solution designed to sit near GPUs and provide an additional power source when needed. The logic is straightforward: if compute demand is becoming more dynamic, the power architecture has to become more dynamic too. For investors, this is a meaningful signal. Data center power is no longer just a facilities issue. It is becoming an application layer for advanced storage and response technologies. Robotics is the clearest near-term use case If data centers represent the strategic frontier, robotics may be the clearest near-term commercial fit. Warehouse automation and industrial robotics live and die by utilization. Every minute a robot is charging is a minute it is not producing value. For fleet operators, the key metric is not battery capacity in isolation. It is how effectively the battery supports continuous operation across shifts, sites, and cycles. Nyobolt’s early market traction illustrates this well. Annie said one of its first customers came inbound after seeing a five-minute charging EV demonstration, then recognized that the same underlying performance profile could solve a warehouse robotics problem. The issue was familiar across the industry: existing technology could charge quickly, but it could not provide enough energy or range to complete the job. This is also where cycle life becomes especially important. Industrial customers do not want to replace batteries constantly. They want systems that can handle repeated, high-frequency charge-discharge behavior without degradation becoming the limiting factor. In a fleet environment, that is a direct economic lever. Check out our episode with ANYbotics where we discuss robotics for the energy sector. EVs still matter, but the bar is rising EVs remain the most visible battleground for fast-charging innovation, and they are still a major market driver. But the category is maturing. What once counted as a breakthrough, simply faster charging, is now becoming a baseline expectation in premium and performance segments. The next phase is more demanding. Fast-charging batteries now have to balance speed, durability, safety, and cost. They also have to work within increasingly complex vehicle architectures and charging networks. In other words, ultra-fast charging is no longer just a consumer convenience feature. It is part of a larger systems challenge across the transport stack. This is one reason the super-fast charging market is attracting both large incumbents and specialized startups. The startups are often moving faster on materials and system design, while established players have scale, manufacturing, and distribution. That creates a dynamic market, but also a crowded one. The companies most likely to win will be those that can prove not only technical superiority, but commercial readiness. What startups need to get right Nyobolt’s story highlights a lesson that applies far beyond one company: in deep tech, focus beats breadth. The company described a disciplined approach to customer selection, saying it prioritizes cases where the performance gap is large enough to justify bespoke development. That is smart strategy in a capital-intensive category. “The bigger the problem, the better the customer fit for us at this stage” That mindset is useful for startups across the sector. The best early customers are not necessarily the largest in the abstract. They are the ones with the most acute pain, the clearest validation pathway, and the strongest willingness to co-develop. Just as importantly, the winning companies are engineering-led but commercially disciplined. They need to balance lab innovation with field validation, certification, manufacturing readiness, and customer trust. In battery markets, a compelling demo is not enough. The real test is whether the product survives the real world. A market moving from promise to proof The deeper trend across data centers, EVs, and robotics is that battery innovation is becoming operational rather than speculative. Industries are no longer asking whether fast charging sounds impressive. They are asking whether it can reduce downtime, increase uptime, and fit into workflows that now run around the clock. That is what makes this moment interesting for industry players, investors, and startups. The technical problem is hard, but the market need is real and urgent. Super-fast charging batteries are moving from a niche feature into a critical enabler of the always-on economy. And that may be the biggest change of all: batteries are no longer just supporting products. In the right applications, they are becoming part of the infrastructure itself. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit klimaticgroup.substack.com

    35 min
  2. 17 MAR

    Zero-Emission Construction Sites (ZECS): From Oslo’s pioneering model to scaling across Europe (1/2)

    Linda Zarai is the key author of two reports: * EU-level impact assessment and policy options: transitioning ZEMCON in European cities, a comprehensive study on the benefits, cost impacts, and policy options for Zero Emission Construction Sites across Europe with the Norwegian consulting firm Hafslund. * From Oslo to the EU: The journey towards clean construction, a case study on how Oslo has paved the way for ZECS across Europe. The report is the outcome of a collaboration with the city of Oslo and other partners of the Power Up a REnewable Society (PURE) Project. First established in 1986, Bellona is an international, independent non-governmental organisation (NGO) combating climate change. Their 30 years of experience on the ground has been marked with active collaborations with civil society, academia, governments, institutions, and industries. Connect with Linda Zarai on LinkedIn. Interested in more? Join us on Zoom March 26th at 14:00 CET for a deep dive on the topic with industry leaders paving the path forward on ZECS from Volvo Construction and the City of Stockholm. 00:00: What are Zero Emission Construction Sites?04:04: Health impacts of ZECS06:51: Oslo case study08:19: Role of procurement10:27: Olav v Gate, the first ZECS14:04: Other cities leading on ZECS16:57: Barriers to scaling ZECS19:14: How to scale ZECS?21:32: Opportunity for startups25:29: Construction sites of the future Deep Dive on Zero Emission Construction Sites (reposted with permission from Bellona Europa. Original here: https://eu.bellona.org/focus-area/embodied-carbon/zero-emission-construction-sites/) Zero-Emission Construction Sites (ZECS) are worksites where only zero-emission construction machinery and transport can operate. This approach seeks to decarbonise one of the most emission-intensive phases of the built environment: the construction stage. By focusing on this critical window, ZECS aim to reduce embodied carbon in buildings and infrastructure. Why do ZECS matter? ZECS address multiple urban challenges at once: Climate action Significantly reduce emissions from construction and embodied carbon in building and infrastructure Air pollution Cut construction-machinery-related particulate matter, NOx, and CO emission to zero. Noise pollution Noticeably reduce noise levels, improving conditions for residents, workers, and nearby businesses Cities as drivers of change Cities account for a large share of global greenhouse gas emissions, and their impact on climate crisis cannot be ignored. But they also hold the power to lead. Oslo’s progress illustrates that by embedding ZECS into local climate strategies, procurement frameworks, and urban development policies, municipalities can: * Meet climate goals through practical interventions * Create lead markets for clean construction products * Demonstrate the feasibility and scalability of sustainable models to national and EU-level decision-makers Green public procurement is a powerful tool. Oslo has shown that by including environmental criteria in tenders, cities can drive innovation and influence markets far beyond municipal borders. Bellona has developed the Emission-Free Construction Equipment Database to help cities and contractors identify market-ready and upcoming construction machinery and equipment. Like this episode? Subscribe to get notified about the next one! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit klimaticgroup.substack.com

    30 min
  3. 11 MAR

    Scaling Industrial Robotics for Energy and Critical Infrastructure

    ANYbotics is a Swiss robotics company that develops autonomous, AI‑driven legged robots to improve the safety, efficiency, and sustainability of industrial operations, especially in demanding environments. This episode serves as a companion piece to our Podcast episode “Scaling Energy Tech with Siemens Energy”. At the 6 minute mark, find out how Siemens Energy as the customer implemented ANYbotic’s solution to scale throughout its operations. On the same Substack post, you can also read our deep dive on the robotics for the energy industry. ANYbotics is a leading robotics company specializing in advanced autonomous legged robots that transform how heavy industries inspect and operate their assets. Founded in 2016 as a spin-off from ETH Zurich, they combine cutting-edge AI, robust mobility, and industrial-grade hardware to deliver reliable robotic inspection solutions for sectors such as energy, power, chemicals, metals, and mining. ANYmal robots are designed to autonomously navigate complex, hazardous sites, capturing rich visual, thermal, acoustic, and gas data to enable safer, more informed and more efficient decision-making. By taking over dull, dirty, and dangerous tasks, their systems help customers tackle labor shortages, reduce unplanned downtime, and advance their decarbonization, digitalization, and safety goals. Connect with Péter Fankhauser on LinkedIn and read more about their partnership described in the podcast in Siemens Energy blog here. 00:00: What is ANYbotics?02:29: Why data is critical in implementing robotics04:19: What customers care about05:54: Customer integration requirements07:09: Use cases in the energy sector09:24: How robotics can solve operational challenges faced by utilities10:30: environmental factors11:34: Pilot to scaling with a customer13:44: How they landed a project with Siemens Energy18:52: Landing and expanding with an industrial client20:20: The importance of excellent customer success processes23:00: Next steps for ANYbotics25:20: Dealing with media disinformation (robots taking jobs) and customer confusion. Like this episode? Subscribe to get notified about the next one! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit klimaticgroup.substack.com

    31 min
  4. Venture Tools | Adventurous Giants with Erik Wirsing

    9 FEB

    Venture Tools | Adventurous Giants with Erik Wirsing

    In this episode of Klimatic Scale, Dash speaks with Erik Wirsing, a logistics innovation veteran who has implemented dozens of startups into corporate operations. Drawing from decades in leadership roles, Erik breaks down the practical reality of corporate venturing. How to scale a startup solution across 100 countries, navigate internal politics, and convince both the C-suite and warehouse workers that change is worth it. Erik shares hard-won lessons on when to use venture clienting vs. venture building, why German companies struggle to kill projects, and the critical mistake that made employees reject a self-driving bus they initially loved. Here’s one question to set the scene: Should you fall in love with a technology first, or find the pain point first? 👉 Listen to find out why Erik completely reversed his approach. This is the last of four episodes in the Venture Tools Chapter of Klimatic Scale, where we focus on venture clienting and venture building as the most practical innovation tools for climate-critical industries to move beyond pilots and into real-world impact. Both corporate and startup listeners can take valuable insights from real cases. 1:00 From toy trucks to autonomous driving: Erik’s logistics DNA13:00 The corporate venturing toolbox: clienting, building, CVC17:30 Push vs. pull: why “cool technology” doesn’t scale21:00 Stakeholder mapping: from board to shop floor27:00 Budget reality: who pays after the pilot ends?30:00 Business case drivers: cost savings vs. new revenue36:00 How to pitch to corporates Connect with Erik if you want to continue the conversation - he’s currently exploring new adventures in corporate venturing! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit klimaticgroup.substack.com

    40 min
  5. Venture Tools | Fleeting Spark with Jelle Goertz

    26 JAN

    Venture Tools | Fleeting Spark with Jelle Goertz

    In this episode of Klimatic Scale, Dash speaks with Jelle Goertz, co-creator of inno2fleet, a venture building success case at the intersection of energy and mobility, built by inno2grid together with Schneider Electric. Jelle dives right into the details of what it actually took to turn a corporate fleet electrification challenge into a scalable business. He touches on how the inception happened, who was involved, how the first customers were acquired, and more. Here’s one question to set the scene. What do you think: 👉 Listen to the episode to find out. This is the second of four episodes in the Venture Tools Chapter of Klimatic Scale, where we focus on venture clienting and venture building as the most practical innovation tools for climate-critical industries to move beyond pilots and into real-world impact. Both corporate and startup listeners can take valuable insights from real cases. 1:00 The fleeting spark: how inno2fleet began3:30 From idea to first customer6:40 The key decision makers10:30 It takes a village14:00 What unlocked adoption18:30 Go-to-market lessons: one specific fail22:00 Where the money came from25:30 Scaling the venture without getting slowed down29:30 Jelle’s advice for venture builders Connect with Jelle if you want to continue the conversation! And check out our companion episode with Alexander Soechtig, COO of inno2grid to learn how a venture builder creates success cases like inno2fleet. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit klimaticgroup.substack.com

    33 min

About

Klimatic Scale is a show about commercial scale in energy, built environment, and mobility innovation - the sectors core towards reaching net zero goals in Europe. So why are we stalling? Join award-winning ecosystem builders Aneri and Dash as they discuss best ways to scale with industry leaders, entrepreneurs, and experts. We cover: 1. Success stories and what works from pilot to scale 2. Specific industry cases & success stories, dissected and analyzed 3. What works best for speedy commercialization to get to net zero klimaticgroup.substack.com