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Interviews with writers, journalists, filmmakers, and podcasters about how they do their work. Hosted by Aaron Lammer, Max Linsky, and Evan Ratliff.

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Interviews with writers, journalists, filmmakers, and podcasters about how they do their work. Hosted by Aaron Lammer, Max Linsky, and Evan Ratliff.

    Episode 473: Khabat Abbas

    Episode 473: Khabat Abbas

    Khabat Abbas is an independent journalist and video producer from northeastern Syria, and the winner of the 2021 Kurt Schork News Fixer Award.
    ”I can see from my experience that there is a gap between the editors, who are kind of elites in their luxury offices, and the amazing journalists who are in the field, who all sympathize with what they are seeing on the ground and want to cover [it], but they have to satisfy the editors. And this is how we end up having little gaps in the ways of covering in general. It's not a matter of like, they shaped it in this way. The problem, I think, it’s bigger. How this industry is working, how this industry is deciding what they should cover.”

    Show notes:


    Kurt Schork Awards in International Journalism

    34:00 "'Belief Allows Us to Move Forward,' Said One Female Soldier in Battle Against ISIS" (ABC News • July 2017)

    40:00 "The Former 'Caliphate Capital' Is Haunted by Fears of an ISIS Comeback" (Washington Post • May 2020)

    43:00 "How ISIS Women and Their Children Are Being Left Stranded in the Desert" (Washington Post • Dec 2019)

    43:00 "ISIS at a Crossroads" (Washington Post • Dec 2019)

    43:00 "After the ISIS Caliphate: Thousands of Islamic State Fighters Captured in Syria Face Uncertain Fate" (Washington Post • Dec 2019)

    51:00 "'This Is Ethnic Cleansing': A Dispatch from Kurdish Syria" (New York Review of Books • Oct 2019)

    51:00 "For Kurds on the Syrian Front Line There’s No Ceasefire" (The Daily Beast • Nov 2019)

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    • 1 hr 14 min
    Episode 472: Michael Schulman

    Episode 472: Michael Schulman

    Michael Schulman is a staff writer for The New Yorker. He recently profiled Jeremy Strong of Succession.
    ”There's an interesting moment that's part of this job where you’ve spent a lot of time with someone and it often feels very personal and very intimate. And then when you go to write the piece, you have to sort of take a breath and say to yourself, Okay, I'm not writing this for this person. I'm writing this for the reader.”
    Show notes:



    Schulman on Longform

    Schulman's New Yorker archive

    01:00 "On ‘Succession,’ Jeremy Strong Doesn’t Get the Joke" (New Yorker • Dec 2021)

    03:00 Her Again: Becoming Meryl Streep (Harper • 2016)

    09:00 "Wendy Williams Dishes the Dirt" (New Yorker • May 2021)

    35:00 "Adam Driver, the Original Man" (New Yorker • Oct 2019)

    37:00 "A Defense of Jeremy Strong (and All the Strivers With No Chill)" (Elizabeth Spiers • New York Times • Jan 2022)

    44:00 "Bridget Everett is Larger than Life" (New Yorker • Jan 2022)

    45:00 "The Otherworldly Comedy of Julio Torres" (New Yorker • Dec 2020)

    47:00 "Bo Burnham’s Age of Anxiety" (New Yorker • Jun 2018)

    47:00 "Troye Sivan’s Coming of Age" (New Yorker • Jun 2019)

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    Episode 471: Sarah Marshall

    Episode 471: Sarah Marshall

    Sarah Marshall is a writer and hosts the podcast You're Wrong About.

    ”I love it when people tell me that listening to the way I talk about these people in the stories that we tell, and just about the world generally, has made them practice empathy more. I almost feel like I have preserved this a-little-bit-past version of myself, because I've been on this journey throughout the pandemic of becoming pretty cynical, and then deciding cynicism is a luxury and that it feels better, ultimately, to try to believe in people.”

    Show notes:


    Marshall on Longform

    You're Wrong About

    05:00 "Your 2012 Baby Name Guide: Puritan Edition" (The Hairpin • Jan 2012)

    08:00 "Remote Control" (The Believer • Jan 2014)

    12:00 "The End of Evil" (The Believer • Feb 2018)

    17:00 "Talking Tammy Faye Bakker w. Jessica Chastain" (You're Wrong About • Jan 2022)

    46:00 "The O.J. Simpson Trial: The DeLorean Detour" (You're Wrong About • Feb 2021)

    47:00 "The O.J. Simpson Trial: Kato Kaelin Part 1" (You're Wrong About • Dec 2019)

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    • 57 min
    Episode 470: Abe Streep

    Episode 470: Abe Streep

    Abe Streep is a journalist and contributing editor for Outside. His new book is Brothers on Three: A True Story of Family, Resistance, and Hope on a Reservation in Montana.
    ”The way journalists talk about, ‘Did you get the story?’—that's not how I see this. That would be extractive in this setting, I think. If someone shares something personal with me, that is a serious matter. It's a gift and you’ve got to treat it with great respect.”
    Show notes:



     Streep on Longform

    03:00 "What the Arlee Warriors Were Playing For" (New York Times Magazine • Apr 2018)

    03:00 Brothers on Three: A True Story of Family, Resistance, and Hope on a Reservation in Montana (Celadon Books • 2021)

    09:00 "The Legends of Last Place" (The Atavist • Apr 2013)

    24:00 Custer Died for Your Sins (Vine Deloria • University of Oklahoma Press • 1988)

    34:00 Friday Night Lights (H.G. Bissinger • Da Capo • 1990)

    34:00 The Last Shot: City Streets, Basketball Dreams (Darcy Frey • Houghton Mifflin • 1994)

    35:00 Counting Coup: A True Story of Basketball and Honor on the Little Big Horn (Larry Colton • Grand Central • 2001)

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    • 52 min
    Rerun: #430 Connie Walker (Feb 2021)

    Rerun: #430 Connie Walker (Feb 2021)

    Connie Walker is an investigative reporter and podcast host. Her latest show is Stolen: The Search for Jermain.

    “For so long, there has been this kind of history of journalists coming in and taking stories from Indigenous communities. And that kind of extractive, transactional kind of journalism really causes a lot of harm. And so much of our work is trying to undo and address that. There is a way to be a storyteller and help amplify and give people agency in their stories.”

    Show notes:


    Walker's CBC News archive

    00:00 Missing & Murdered (CBC News)

    04:00 "The Injustice to Pamela George Continues Long After Her Murder" (Heather Mallick • Toronto Star • Jan 2020)

    08:00 Street Cents (CBC)

    12:00 "Alicia Ross: Everyone’s Daughter" (Catherine McDonald • Global News • Apr 2020)

    14:00 Truth and Reconciliation Commission of Canada

    19:00 8th Fire, Ep. 1: "Indigenous in the City" (CBC • 2012)

    19:00 8th Fire, Ep. 2: "It’s Time" (CBC • 2012)

    19:00 8th Fire, Ep. 3: "Whose Land Is It Anyway?" (CBC • 2012)

    19:00 8th Fire, Ep. 4: "At the Crossroads" (CBC • 2012)

    22:00 "Missing and Murdered Aboriginal Women: A National Operational Overview" (Royal Canadian Mounted Police • 2014)

    24:00 "Missing and Murdered: The Life and Mysterious Death of Leah Anderson" (CBC News • Mar 2015)

    26:00 Serial

    27:00 "Amber Tuccaro's Unsolved Murder: Do You Recognize This Voice?" (Marnie Luke and Connie Walker • CBC News • Jun 2015)

    27:00 "Unresolved: Patricia Carpenter" (Holly Moore • CBC News • Jun 2016)

    27:00 Missing & Murdered Season 1: Who Killed Alberta Williams? (Connie Walker and Marnie Luke • CBC News)

    27:00 Missing & Murdered Season 2: Finding Cleo (Connie Walker and Marnie Luke • CBC News)

    35:00 Ochberg Fellowship

    37:00 "Duncan McCue on Reporting in Indigenous Communities" (Ryerson Today • Apr 2018)

    37:00 Reporting in Indigenous Communities Guide (Duncan McCue)

    39:00 Stolen (Gimlet • 2021)

    39:00 "Jermain Charlo Missing Two Years on Tuesday" (Seaborn Larson • Missoulian • Jun 2020)

    44:00 "Monday's Montanan: Lauren Small Rodriguez Helps Native Trafficking Survivors" (Patrick Reilly • Missoulian • Feb 2020)

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    • 54 min
    Rerun: #371 Parul Seghal (Dec 2019)

    Rerun: #371 Parul Seghal (Dec 2019)

    Parul Sehgal, a former a book critic for The New York Times, is now a staff writer at The New Yorker.
    “My job is I think to be honest with the reader and to keep surfacing new ways for me and for other people to think about books. New vocabularies of pleasure and disgust.”
    Show notes:



    Sehgal's New York Times archive

    “Mothers of Invention: A Group of Authors Finds New Narrative Possibilities in Parenthood” (Bookforum • 2015)

    “In Letters to the World, a New Wave of Memoirs Draws on the Intimate” (New York Times • 2019)

    “#MeToo Is All Too Real. But to Better Understand it, Turn to Fiction.” (New York Times • 2019)

    Jia Tolentino on Longform

    “Peter Luger Used to Sizzle. Now It Sputters.” (Pete Wells • New York Times • 2019)

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    • 1 hr 1 min

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Always great listening - deeply reported and incredibly insightful interviews with amazing modern writers and journalists. Industry insights you can’t buy (not just for working journos and writers - but for everyone) from the best and most diverse talents in the business.

I’ve recommended the episode with Elif Batuman to everyone who will listen to me (twice!). I bought Elif’s book, The Idiot, after listening to her interview here and was hooked on every page.

Thanks guys 😊👍👍


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