Psychedelics Then and Now with Zach Leary

Zach Leary/Psychedelics Today

Hosted by Zach Leary, the Psychedelics Then and Now podcast (formerly the MAPS Podcast) is designed to bring you the listener into the world of psychedelic research and culture. The ever expanding world of psychedelic research and policy changes has made this era the most fascinating and vibrant in how these compounds effect the human condition. Zach has had a front row seat for within the psychedelic landscape for decades and his passion in bringing you some of the great stories, minds, research and artists within this community shines through on this podcast. This podcast is a collaboration between Zach Leary and Psychedelics Today. Please visit the Psychedelics Today website at www.psychedelicstoday.com Please visit Zach Leary's website at www.zachleary.net

  1. Episode 17 - Martha Hammel and Tasia Pointsatte: Colorado and Beyond

    1 day ago

    Episode 17 - Martha Hammel and Tasia Pointsatte: Colorado and Beyond

    Episode 17 - Martha Hammel and Tasia Pointsatte: Colorado and Beyond Martha and Tasia drop in to this episode of the podcast to educate us all on the future of psychedelic medicines through the lens of what's been happening in Colorado as a result of Prop 122, the Natural Medicine Act. Colorado has really laid the groundwork for all other states to follow and both Martha and Tasia know better than anyone as to what's working and what isn't. Also, they are the chairs of the Aspen Psychedelic Symposium which takes place on June 6th and 7th in Aspen. Their leadership has gone on to shape one of the great psychedelic gatherings on the planet! Martha Hammel is an advocate, activist, and educator in the psychedelic space. She holds a master's degree in nutrition in which she focused on the intersection of emotional trauma, addiction, and gut health. In her private coaching practice she supports clients through transformation healing, through nutrition, functional movement, psychedelic integration, and spiritual connection. She supports her local community as the executive director of the Aspen Psychedelic Resource Center, which provides community education and outreach regarding the safe use of plant medicine in the Roaring Fork Valley. Additionally, she provides integration support at 4 Winds farm, a women's transformational recovery center in Glenwood springs, and is an advisor for the National Psychedelic Association, supporting the psychedelic industry as it emerges in Oregon and Colorado. Tasia Poinsatte serves as the Colorado Director of the Healing Advocacy Fund (HAF), a nonprofit that works to protect and expand safe, affordable state-regulated access to psychedelic healing for all who need it. Her role involves extensive community engagement, bringing a range of perspectives, knowledge and experience into Colorado's policy process to set up a state-regulated psilocybin therapy program that is responsive to the diverse needs of those who will seek guidance and care in the new licensed framework. Prior to joining HAF, Tasia conducted research and advised strategy on progressive campaigns and causes in the US and internationally. Her background in qualitative and quantitative public opinion research informs her understanding of how to navigate and engage a tapestry of experiences, values and worldviews, seeking where possible to find the common threads that connect us.

    1hr 2min
  2. Episode 14 - Shane Mauss: Comedy and Molecules

    24 Mar

    Episode 14 - Shane Mauss: Comedy and Molecules

    This episode of the podast is sponsored my Amentara Enthobotanicals Visit: https://www.amentara.com/ and use the code LEARY22 to receive 22% off of your first order. --------- Comedian Shane Mauss drops into the episode of the podcast to bring his one and only fantastasical wit and insights into our  minds and maybe even our souls! Shanes perspective on the psychedelic movement, science and mysticism is truly one of a kind. Turn up the volume and see if you can keep up with him! I did but only barely.  His new comedy special TRIPS: First Dose is now live on YouTube on the 800lb Gorilla channel.  Shane Mauss is an award-winning comedian (Conan, Kimmel, Comedy Central, Prime) with a fondness for interviewing scientists about the bizarre and counterintuitive ways the mind works and turning what he learns into solo shows that blend philosophy with comedy. Originally recognized for his cerebral, absurdist writing and understated delivery, he veered off the traditional path to dive into bigger ideas with themed shows about consciousness, animal mating behavior, mental health, mythology, adaptations, cognitive errors, biology, and AI. After a 111 city tour about psychedelics in 2017 which led to appearances on the biggest podcasts, his documentary 'Psychonautics', and the Comedy Central webseries 'Tales From The Trip' Shane became known as someone who could speak to wild experiences from a surprisingly grounded perspective. Shane just released 'The First Dose' of a new two-part psychedelic comedy special, TRIPS. 'The Second Dose' drops April 19th (The anniversary of the discovery of LSD aka 'Bicycle Day')

    1hr 5min
  3. Episode 12 - Megan Bowers + Wendy Tucker: The Shulgin Legacy

    29/12/2025

    Episode 12 - Megan Bowers + Wendy Tucker: The Shulgin Legacy

    Episode 12 - Megan Bowers + Wendy Tucker: The Shulgin Legacy In the ever shifting landscape of psychedelic culture it's important now, more than ever, to protect and expand on the legacies of those who came before us. This episode does exactly that - Megan and Wendy take us through the important work that The Shulgin Foundation is doing in not just honoring the legacies of Ann and Sasha but in also helping to educate a new generation of psychonauts. Through programs online and in person at the Shulgin Farm in California, Megan and Wendy are forging new heights for what's possible in the future of psychedelic education, harm reduction and chemistry. Megan Bowers is the Interim Executive Director of The Shulgin Foundation and is a transformational coach, credentialed by the International Coaching Federation in Executive and Organizational Development Coaching. Wendy Tucker is Ann Shulgin's daughter. She worked for many years with Sasha Shulgin, doing research, working with him in the office and in the lab. She owns Transform Press, the publishing company that the Shulgins created, and she manages a chiropractic office. Wendy has spearheaded the effort to preserve the Shulgin farm, the home of Sasha and Ann and the location of the historic lab. She created The Shulgin Foundation in 2023, a nonprofit dedicated to this preservation effort. She is the Board Chair of the Shulgin Foundation.  For more information: shulginfoundation.org

    1hr 2min
  4. Episode 11 - Jonathan Dekle: Systems Minded Explorer

    05/12/2025

    Episode 11 - Jonathan Dekle: Systems Minded Explorer

    Episode 11 - Jonathan Dekle: Systems Minded Explorer  This episode was such a blast to do! Jonathan is a wonderful thinker, raconteur and voyager of all things cosmic. His takes on the modern psychedelic movement is spot on as he points out the successes and pitfalls of what we're facing as a community. Our conversation took a look at legacy holders, transformation, low dose DMT and the importance of cognitive liberty. Jonathans voice is not to be missed!  Jonathan Dekle is an entrepreneur, philosopher, and systems-minded explorer of consciousness whose work bridges technology, psychedelics, and human transformation. A former systems engineer who spent decades in the digital world, Jonathan now applies that same architecture of logic and interdependence to the inner terrain of the mind — where emotion, memory, and awareness form their own kind of code. His path began through an interest in natural medicines for alcohol use disorder, a deeply personal search for equilibrium and repair. Over time, that curiosity evolved into a broader inquiry into the role of psychedelics as tools for integration and creativity, and the responsibilities that come with their use. Jonathan speaks and writes about cognitive liberty the freedom to explore one's own consciousness with integrity and the importance of developing modern ceremonies of connection, such as music events and intentional gatherings, that meet the needs of today's culture rather than borrowing from those that came before. He is an advocate for functional DMT dosing and other gentle, structured approaches to altered states emphasizing discernment, stability, and respect for the psyche's natural rhythms. His philosophy draws inspiration from Alexander "Sasha" Shulgin's words in PiHKAL: "I choose what may or may not cross that border. Here I am the Customs Agent. I am the Coast Guard. I am the sole legal and spiritual government of this territory." IG: glimpseofthewanderingmind IG: theindoleproject

    1hr 1min
  5. Episode 10 - Stephanie Karzon Abrams: Heart and Science

    08/11/2025

    Episode 10 - Stephanie Karzon Abrams: Heart and Science

    Episode 10 - Stephanie Karzon Abrams: Heart and Science This episode takes on a wide ranging ride inside Stephanie's wildy diverse experise on the science of psychedelics to the importance of music and community. Stephanie is a profound and powerful voice in the psychedelic community and her work represents the best of the modern psychedelic movement.  Intro: Ann Shulgin takes on a brief exploration of the shadow.  Stephanie Karzon Abrams is a neuropharmacologist, founder of Beyond Consulting—powering the integrative, psychedelic and plant medicine spaces, and is the co-founder of the Public Secret music label and artist collective.  She serves as Clinical Director at Modern Medicine Services, is a prescriber of MDMA and psilocybin therapy under Canada's SAP, and is the Research Director at the Microdosing Collective non profit.  Stephanie believes in the undercurrent of joy woven into the fabric of our existence and thus co-created the talk and event series "The Chemistry of Joy", where the human experience is explored through the lens of ritual and celebration.  With experience in neurology, intensive care, and medical device at Johnson & Johnson, she is a recognized leader in innovative healthcare. Her work bridges neuroscience, women's health, plant medicine, and the healing power of music. A musician, writer, and speaker, Stephanie also builds community through gatherings rooted in music, meaning, and mycology. Web: https://www.stephaniekarzonabrams.com  Www.Beyondconsulting.Life  Social: @steph__k @public.secret  @microdosingcollective @thechemistryofjoy @mod_meds

    1hr 6min

Ratings & Reviews

4.4
out of 5
17 Ratings

About

Hosted by Zach Leary, the Psychedelics Then and Now podcast (formerly the MAPS Podcast) is designed to bring you the listener into the world of psychedelic research and culture. The ever expanding world of psychedelic research and policy changes has made this era the most fascinating and vibrant in how these compounds effect the human condition. Zach has had a front row seat for within the psychedelic landscape for decades and his passion in bringing you some of the great stories, minds, research and artists within this community shines through on this podcast. This podcast is a collaboration between Zach Leary and Psychedelics Today. Please visit the Psychedelics Today website at www.psychedelicstoday.com Please visit Zach Leary's website at www.zachleary.net

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