What if ADHD wasn’t about deficit… but about innovation? In this energising and deeply affirming conversation, Laetitia is joined by Madeleine Jaine Lobsey, transformational leader, creative strategist, autistic/ADHD founder of Wondiverse, and host of Neurodelight. Together, they unpack the misconceptions around ADHD (especially in women), the hidden cost of masking, and the profound power of creativity and play as tools for regulation and belonging. Madeleine shares her late diagnosis journey at 49, the grief and empowerment that followed, and how embracing her neurodivergence unlocked a new level of leadership, advocacy and community design. This episode is a powerful reminder: when you allow people to be, magic happens. ✨ Try Understanding Zoe free for 30 days – the neuroaffirming app turning every report, observation and meltdown into an actionable next step. KEY TAKEAWAYS 👇 🧠 ADHD is fundamentally about regulation - not laziness or lack of focus 🧠 How creativity and play create safe spaces for self-expression 🧠 The grief and empowerment of late diagnosis 🧠 Why divergent thinking drives innovation 🧠 Choice and control as foundations for co-regulation at home 💛 Love what you heard? Subscribe, share with your care village, and leave us a review so more families can find this support. 🔗 Try Understanding Zoe for free today ABOUT THE GUEST 👇 Madeleine Jaine Lobsey is a sought-after leader in transformational leadership, with over 20 years’ experience empowering individuals and organisations to create bold impact. She has delivered coaching, mentoring and facilitation programs across Australia, New Zealand, South Korea and globally — working with Members of Federal Parliament, senior educators, Olympians, not-for-profit founders and leaders in science, business and the arts. Since 2020, Madeleine has immersed herself in the disability and not-for-profit sector, becoming a respected voice in neurodivergence, inclusion and community design. In 2022, she joined The A List, a national organisation supporting autistic and neurodivergent young people. As General Manager, she formed major partnerships — including LEGO Australia — and helped launch the groundbreaking Social Hubs for Teens program. In 2024, Madeleine founded Wondiverse, a neurodivergent-led social enterprise dedicated to creating a world where all neurotypes can work and play together. Through Wondiverse, she now leads the federally funded Create Space Arts Initiative in partnership with The A List and the Department of Social Services. Her leadership has earned national recognition, including: 🏆 Westfield Local Hero🏆 2024 Changemaker of the Year🏆 Dare Magazine’s Top 50 Australians Over 50 Madeleine is also the host of A Different Brilliant (Autism Spectrum Australia – ASPECT) and her own podcast Neurodelight. She first imagined “Wondiverse” at age eight as an imaginary business rooted in wonder and possibility. Today, that childhood vision has evolved into a thriving social enterprise grounded in joy, belonging and transformation. Madeleine is proudly autistic/ADHD and parents neurodivergent children. Her lived experience and fierce commitment to inclusion shape every aspect of her work. 💻 Website: https://wondiverse.com.au 📸 Instagram: @wondiverse ABOUT THE HOST 👇 Laetitia Andrac (Autistic & ADHDer) is an award-winning entrepreneur, international speaker, and podcast host. She is the bestselling author of Light It: How to Trust Your Intuition and Build a Thriving Business. With over 15 years of experience in consulting, strategy, and innovation, Laetitia has worked with industry leaders like Deloitte and Telstra. Inspired by my journey as a neurodivergent parent, she co-founded Understanding Zoe, an AI-driven solution dedicated to supporting caregivers of neurodivergent children. Her passion is creating a more neuroinclusive world, where everyone can thrive—whether in their homes, communities, or workplaces.
