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Face the climate crisis head on, but understand that we have the power to solve this. From former UN Chief Christiana Figueres and the team who brought you the Paris Agreement, this podcast about issues and politics will inform you, inspire you and help you realize that this is the most exciting time in history to be alive.

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Face the climate crisis head on, but understand that we have the power to solve this. From former UN Chief Christiana Figueres and the team who brought you the Paris Agreement, this podcast about issues and politics will inform you, inspire you and help you realize that this is the most exciting time in history to be alive.

    What The Hale?! Introducing the Net Zero Tracker with Thomas Hale

    What The Hale?! Introducing the Net Zero Tracker with Thomas Hale

    Tom Hale is BACK and here to announce the official Launch of the Net Zero Tracker!
    So yes - this week we have Associate Professor in Global Public Policy at Oxford University, Tom Hale, who joined us back in March of this year discussing the launch of a report “Taking Stock of commitments to Net Zero”. That report put a spotlight on the credibility of a wave of government and business net zero commitments at the time. He is now returning more triumphant than ever with a significant update - The launch of a publicly available Net Zero Tracker!
    It’s a big deal.
    Our host, Paul Dickinson jumps in to ask, What the Hale IS the Net Zero Tracker? And how is it creating radical transparency that will lead to actually limiting global heating to 1.5C?
    In tandem with the Net Zero Tracker is a new release as well, The Net Zero Dashboard Codebook - Filled with terms to bring absolute clarity to Net Zero pledges, promises, and commitments...so what the Hale do all these terms mean? Stick around for our classic Lightning Round.
    The Race to Zero continues!
     

     
    Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now!
    Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise
     

     
    Links Mentioned in the Show:
     
    Net Zero Tracker
    UNEP Gap Report
    Oxford English Dictionary Climate Words Added
    NYT Visualization of Emissions Pre-Paris vs Current vs Pledged vs Necessary for 1.5C
     

     
    Thank you to our guest this week! 
     
    Thomas Hale
    Associate Professor in Global Public Policy at Oxford University
    Twitter | Website
     
    Blavatnik School of Government
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    Net Zero Tracker
    Twitter | Website
     

     
    Race to Zero
    Twitter | LinkedIn
     
    COP26 - UN Climate Change Conference
    Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn
     

     
    Keep up with Christiana Figueres here:
    Instagram | Twitter
     
    Tom Rivett-Carnac:
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    Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn!
    LinkedIn
     

     
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    • 28 min
    Small Countries, Big Vision with Nicola Sturgeon

    Small Countries, Big Vision with Nicola Sturgeon

    *inhales deeply* Fresh off the TED Countdown Stage and moments after the ‘Green Carpet’ at The Earthshot Prize Awards 2021 AND a week and a half away from COP26 - Has there ever been a more exciting moment?
    This week we give our first-hand experience at TED Countdown, discussing ‘the moment’ and what followed when Christiana was moderating a discussion on the TED stage about our theories of change with Ben van Beurden, Chris James and Lauren MacDonald. Also Christiana and Tom recall a few exciting moments from the Earthshot Prize Awards and the future investment in scaling these 5 award winning solutions to meet our rapidly approaching climate targets.
    In an incredible interview, our very special guest this week is First Minister of Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon. We met her at her residence in Edinburgh to discuss this new vision she has for small countries collaborating on climate action, and the phenomenal TED Talk she had just delivered (ensured by a standing ovation). Tom says, “it was one of the best I’ve ever seen.”
    And in perfect harmony with this week’s subject- An amazing song this week from DIVEST - we hear them play ‘Something’s About to Change’. It’s really, really good.
    Enjoy the show!
     

     
    Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now!
    Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise
     

     
    Mentioned links from the episode:
     
    Absolutely Required Viewing: Decarbonizing fossil fuels: An unedited discussion from TED Countdown Summit
    Follow Up Read: Christiana Figueres reflects on the emotionally charged climate debate that riveted TED
    Watch: The Earthshot Prize Awards 2021
     
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    Thank you to our guest this week, Nicola Sturgeon!
     
    Nicola Sturgeon
    First Minister of Scotland
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    Office of the First Minister
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    Scottish Government
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    Net Zero Scotland
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    The incredible DIVEST was is our musical guest this week
     
    DIVEST
    Facebook | Bandcamp | Instagram | Twitter
     
    Give them a follow and check out their new EP - Mercury Retrograde
     

     
    Keep up with Christiana Figueres here:
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    Tom Rivett-Carnac:
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    Paul Dickinson:
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    • 50 min
    Taking Business Net Positive with Paul Polman & Andrew Winston

    Taking Business Net Positive with Paul Polman & Andrew Winston

    For the first time ever, we are all in-person bringing you this episode from the TED Countdown Summit in Edinburgh! TED Countdown is an event that officially kicked off on 12th October and encompasses four days of inspiring talks, collaboration, connections and commitments to meaningful action for a better world ahead of COP26.
    Our guest today is Paul Polman, return Outrage + Optimism guest and a celebrated business leader who made sustainability the heart of a global consumer business’ growth agenda in his former role as CEO of Unilever. He is joined by one of the most widely read, published and acclaimed writers on sustainability, Andrew Winston, to talk about the new book the two have co-authored, “Net Positive: How Courageous Companies Thrive by Giving More Than They Take”.  
    We unpack the ways the book re-frames how business can put a lasting end inequality and climate change. Can every business be Net Positive? Find out!
    Stick around for a track of epic proportions from musical guest, WACO.
     

     
    Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now!
    Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise
     
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    Mentioned links from the episode:
     
    Go buy Paul + Andrew’s new book: Net Positive: How Courageous Companies Thrive by Giving More Than They Take
     
    TED Countdown!
    Blog (Day 2) | Twitter | Instagram
     
    Clay Recommends - Visualizing Climate Change: An Open Call For Photography



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    Thank you to our guests this week, Paul Polman and Andrew Winston!
     
    Paul Polman
    Influencer, business leader, campaigner
    Twitter | LinkedIn 
     
    Andrew Winston
    Writer, Adviser/Speaker on Megatrends & Sustainability, Consultant on Corporate Strategy
    Twitter | LinkedIn




     
    Amazing music this week was from WACO!
     
    WACO
    Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | Spotify
     
    You gotta see their punkishly cosmic music video for “A New Future”
     
    They have a physical copy of their latest record for sale out on Venn Records, made from leftover waste vinyl: “Hope Rituals” - Buy It!
     
    Sales will be donated to Beyond Gender - Please check out the work they are doing to create a fairer and safer society.
     

     
    Keep up with Christiana Figueres here:
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    Tom Rivett-Carnac:
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    Paul Dickinson:
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    Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message!
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    • 50 min
    Dealing with Climate Grief with Luisa Neubauer

    Dealing with Climate Grief with Luisa Neubauer

    With only 99 months left until 2030, and COP26 in less than 1, time is ticking on 1.5. And young people know it.
    So today, a timely and relevant conversation with Climate Activist, and return guest to Outrage + Optimism, Luisa Neubauer. This time, focusing on climate change and its impact on the mental health and outlook on the future of young people everywhere.
    The backdrop to the conversation with Luisa are two recently published studies (One from The Lancet, another from Science.org) examining the psychological effect of climate induced anxiety and perceived government inaction on our youth, and their current and future lived experience of the impact of climate change.
    We also consider causes for optimism at the other end of the spectrum as The Eartshot Prize has announced its finalists and is featuring a high profile TV series focusing on the regenerative and transformative projects from small community efforts to public policy driven national initiatives.
    A just future is possible. What will we choose?
     
    Hit play, join us for the conversation, and stick around for musical guest this week is the one and only Gizmo Varillas!
     

     
    Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now!
    Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise
     

     
    Mentioned links from the episode:
     
    Earthshot The TV Series featuring Christiana Figueres is now available to view on Discovery+ and BBC iPlayer!
    TEDCountdown Summit is next week!
    Climate Grief and Anxiety Studies:
    Young People's Voices on Climate Anxiety, Government Betrayal and Moral Injury: A Global Phenomenon
    Intergenerational Inequities in Exposure to Climate Extremes
     
    Check out the incredible activists Christiana and Paul met in Dubai:
     
    HE Dr. Nawal Al-Hosany
    permanent representative of the UAE to the International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA)
    Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn
     
    The UAE Mission to IRENA
    Twitter | Instagram 
     
    Nisreen Elsaim
    Chair, UN Secretary General's Youth Advisory Group on Climate Change
    Twitter | LinkedIn | Instagram
     
    Heeta Lakhani
    Global Focal Point, YOUNGO and Director, UmeUs United Pvt. Ltd.
    Twitter | LinkedIn | Instagram
     
    Children and Youth constituency to United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (YOUNGO)
    Twitter | Linktr.ee | Website | Instagram
     
    Climate Change Conference of Youth (COY16)
    Twitter | Website | Instagram
     
    A recommendation from Clay:
    Go listen to ‘The Flock’ - An epic audio drama about rising up against environmental destruction - From the view of birds!
     

     
    Thank you to our guest this week, Luisa Neubauer!
     
    Luisa Neubauer
    Twitter | Instagram
     
    Check out her podcast:
    1.5 Degrees
    And of course, her incredible TED Talk
    Learn more about Fridays For Future
     

     
    Amazing music this week was from Gizmo Varillas!
     
    Gizmo Varillas
    Music | Website | Vinyl
     

     
    Keep up with Christiana Figueres here:
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    Tom Rivett-Carnac:
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    Paul Dickinson:
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    Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message!
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    • 47 min
    Protecting Our Planet with Cristián Samper

    Protecting Our Planet with Cristián Samper

    You probably heard last week was Climate Week and UNGA. But, what actually happened?
    To cover it all, we get into the cornucopia of methane reduction announcements from countries across the world, a quick update on China, and a special focus this week on the announcement of the ‘Protecting Our Planet Challenge’, an announcement that saw 9 philanthropic organisations, including the Bezos Earth Fund, collectively commit $5 billion of funds to the 30x30 campaign. 
    We explore what this funding announcement means for the campaign, what effect this could have on government ambition and commitment to biodiversity as we gear up for COP26, and how this is a goal every single one of us can unite behind.
    Joining us this week is Cristián Samper, President and CEO of the Wildlife Conservation Society (WCS). Cristián played a key role in convening the 9 organizations to launch the Protecting Our Planet Challenge. It marks the largest-ever philanthropic commitment to nature conservation and a significant step in addressing the triple crisis that threatens our planet – climate change, nature loss and economic insecurity.
    Thanks for listening! Stick around ‘til the end for a live performance of 'Ocean' by special musical guest Palmaria!
     

     
    Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now!
    Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise
     

     
    Mentioned links from the episode:
     
    Go watch Global Citizen Live!
    Read the Sierra Club’s rundown of ‘Climate Night'
     

     
    Thank you to our guest this week: 
     
    Cristián Samper
    President and CEO | Wildlife Conservation Society
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    Wildlife Conservation Society
    LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Website
     
    Bezos Earth Fund 
    Website | Twitter | Instagram
     
    High Ambition Coalition (HAC)  for Nature & People (30x30 campaign)
    Website | Twitter
     

     
    Amazing music this week was from Palmaria!
     
    Palmaria
    Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Website
     
    Listen to 'Ocean'
     
    Also, check out their live performance music video for ‘Ocean’!
     
     

     
    Keep up with Christiana Figueres here:
    Instagram | Twitter
     
    Tom Rivett-Carnac:
    Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn
     
    Paul Dickinson:
    LinkedIn | Twitter
     

     
    Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message!
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    • 46 min
    The Seeds Are Sown for a Food Revolution with Agnes Kalibata

    The Seeds Are Sown for a Food Revolution with Agnes Kalibata

    Following the success of UN Food Systems Summit, or as it’s also known- “The People’s Summit” we get a chance to speak to the driving force behind it, UN Secretary-General’s Special Envoy for the Food Systems Summit, Agnes Kalibata.
    Formerly Rwanda’s Minister of Agriculture and Animal Resources (MINAGRI) from 2008 to 2014, she drove programs that moved her country to food security helping to lift more than a million Rwandans out of poverty.
    Now as Special Envoy, her efforts toward progress of the delivery of the SDGs, and to prioritise Food Systems in the global conversation around climate change are coming to a 2 year culmination. Besides this summit being the first time the UN has called a summit dedicated to food systems, it is engaging more than 100,000 people from 147 countries through 900 independent multi-stakeholder dialogues on food system transformation. UN Summits are often mostly prepared statements by member states. This move to put people and dialogue at the center was a radical return to destroying our siloed thinking when it comes to global issues.
    The Food Revolution begins with a Thought Revolution, and people are at the heart of systemic change.
     

     
    Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now!
    Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise
     
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    Mentioned links from the episode:
    Check out Friday For Future’s #UprootTheSystem
     
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    Thank you to our guests this week: 
     
    Dr Agnes Kalibata
    UN Secretary-General’s Special Envoy | 2021 Food Systems Summit
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    UN Food Systems Summit 2021
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    Keep up with Christiana Figueres here:
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    Tom Rivett-Carnac:
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    Paul Dickinson:
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    Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message!
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    • 28 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
192 Ratings

192 Ratings

ccach ,

Fantastic.

This show is a great balance of exactly what the title says, outrage and optimism. It helps me stay informed of climate events and keeps hope alive in a realistic and energetic way. Thank you for not holding the appalling recalcitrance of the Australian government against us Aussies. Please know that there are many of us fighting with all our might for climate action. We will never stop.

CrisOTheRivers ,

Marketing for hyperconsumers, in the age of global collapse

21/10/2021

What a marvellous moment from Lauren MacDonald at the TED Countdown greenwash event. It could only have been improved by the audience rising up to try and lynch the Ben van Beurden monster. And what a contrast with O!+O's feeble interview with van B!

It's inconceivable how these milquetoast corporate fellow travellers can still believe in the pro-corporate strategy we've been coerced (often with State violence) into following for decades. The evidence is in - that strategy has *already* failed. Our living planet can never be safe while its enemies, the van B's of this world, themselves feel safe. This is now a known known, and those who deny it are 'ecocide deniers/enablers' every bit as much as news.corp et al have been climate deniers.

Now again, a challenge. Interview some non-'nice'/corporate people, who have a grasp of physical (rather than merely conventional) reality. David Abrams. Derrick Jensen. Accept your old way is done, and you were part of the problem.

14/10/2021
Just wow. Paul Polman - a horrifying multimillionaire, who literally believes he is worth 10s of thousands of other humans. A determined and unapolagetic enemy of all (human and more-than-human alike).

O!+O is, more than ever, marketing for hyperconsumers.

Edit 29/9/2021
I wonder if the O!&O folk would have the courage to interview Andreas Malm (author of *How to Blow Up a Pipeline"). Pleasant suggestions over fine wine cannot convince a world-destroying class to change course! The fossil fuel industry, and its backers (ie. the entire corporate plutocracy) is still expanding. Even today, when they know this means global catastrophe. They are the enemy, and the only right relationship to an enemy is to attack.

Edit 22/9/2021
I thought this worth revisiting after the format change, which seems fine.
I'm struck again by the oddness of this podcast's name. Why devote half of it to a cognitive bias ("optimism")? Would anyone call a podcast "Innovation and Innumeracy!".I think not! The clue to the puzzle lies with the uncomfortable closeness of the hosts to the corporate/business world. The hallmark of the latter is fuzzy thinking about the real, physical, more-than-human world (consisting of material rather than virtual/financial flows). Just look at Amazon business book best-seller lists for an endlessly entertaining and hilarious farrago of magical thinking and new-age flakiness. It's as hard for the O!&O hosts to see the corporate world for what it is (our world's common enemy) as it would be for late Weimar Republic teenage boys to mistrust the clean and manly Teutonic virtues of their camp commandants. But an enemy is defined by the material facts (that they're clubbing you over the head) regardless of any fluffier psychological correlates (that while they're doing so, you're dreaming of Christmas).
Get (physically, materially) Real!

Edit 10/8/2021
I wonder if after IPCC6, making it ever clearer that ecocidal corporations & suited execs are the enemy of all of us, these odd folk will keep inviting bankers and fossil fuel execs to parrot capitalist greenwash propaganda?
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One of the weirdest climate change-related interventions you'll ever come across. These guys love a suit, especially if worn by an ecocidal banker or fossil fuel exec. They appear to believe that saving our living planet is compatible with fake 'economic growth' - a physical impossibility, as everyone knows. It will make their rich megaconsuming pals even richer though, so there's that I guess.

Listen for comedic value by all means. Then read Derrick Jensen or David Abrams, who actually understand something about how the so-called 'civilisation' represented by these rich folk is a catastrophe for the real, more-than-human, world.

Borntomove ,

Dr. Agnes Kalibata

What an energetic leader. I had to listen to it twice just to fully appreciate all that Dr. Kalibata was saying. Magnificent, simple, straight-forward leadership that is so encouraging and so necessary. Remarkably effective conversation!

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