Palaeo Jam

Dinosaur University

Palaeo Jam is a podcast exploring a range of issues in science and the community, using the multidisciplinary aspects of, and public fascination with, palaeontology. Palaeo Jam uses fossils, and other objects and research from palaeontology, to explore a range of scientific and social issues, and incorporate key discoveries into its content. That fancy description aside, it’s really an opportunity for host Michael Mills to chat with his palaeo pals and learn some cool things! Each episode is restricted to a maximum of 30 minutes. Each episode has a panel of up to three guests, and is hosted by award-winning science communicator Michael Mills. You can buy a Palaeo Jam mug, and eventually othersPalaeo Jam merch from the Dinosaur University shop at https://dinosaur-university.teemill.com/

  1. 1 day ago

    A story from the teeth

    What can a tiny fossil tooth tell us about a world that disappeared thousands, or even hundreds of thousands of years ago? Quite a lot, as it turns out! In this episode of Palaeo Jam, host Michael Mills is  joined by Dr Tiah Bampton of Adelaide University to explore the fascinating world of stable isotopes and how palaeontologists use them to investigate the past.   Tiah explains how the chemistry locked inside fossilised teeth can reveal what extinct animals ate, what they drank and the environments in which they lived. We discover how stable isotopes are helping researchers reconstruct changing climates and vegetation at places like the Naracoorte Caves, and how the humble fossilised tooth can become a remarkable record of an animal’s life, and the world around it.   But this isn't just about looking backwards. By understanding how animals responded to environmental change in the past, stable isotope research can also help us understand extinction, resilience and the challenges facing Australia's wildlife today.   To learn more about Tiah, follow the link… https://researchers.adelaide.edu.au/profile/tiah.bampton     To learn about Tiah Bampton’s journey, check out this story with the ABC… https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-03/tiah-bampton-living-dream-at-naracoorte-caves-palaeontology-dig/12209876   Host Michael Mills can be found on Bluesky as The Heaps Good Guy at… https://bsky.app/profile/heapsgood.bsky.social   He occasionally inhabits LinkdIn at… https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-mills-86906335/   And is also on Insta at… https://www.instagram.com/heapsgood/

    A story from the teeth
  2. 24 Jan

    The Curious Life of Mary Anning

    What happens when you hurl the definitive biographer of palaeontology pioneer Mary Anning, and the writer of a musical about Mary Anning together?   In this episode of Palaeo Jam, host and writer of musicals, Michael Mills, is joined by Mary Anning biographer Tom Sharpe to explore the life, science, and enduring legacy of Mary Anning, one of the most important figures in the history of palaeontology. Drawing on years of meticulous research, Tom paints a vivid picture of Mary Anning as not just a fossil collector, but a formidable scientific mind operating at the birth of palaeontology. We explore her groundbreaking discoveries including the first complete plesiosaur, her close (and often complicated) relationships with leading scientists of the day, and the steep barriers she faced as a working-class woman.   Beyond the science, this episode digs into the human story of Mary, what she might have been like to meet, personal losses, precarious finances, unanswered questions about her private life, and how myth, film, and modern retellings have sometimes distorted her legacy.   The conversation closes by connecting Mary’s enduring legacy to contemporary creative work, including the development “A Curious Thing”, a new musical inspired by her life, making this episode a must-listen for anyone interested in deep time, women in science, and how we tell history responsibly and creatively.   This is the first ever episode of Palaeo Jam to ever exceed the strict time limit of 30 minutes per episode, because, well… Michael and Tom decided to just keep talking! We can confirm, that once the mics were turned off, the conversation about this remarkable woman continued!   Tom’s book “The Fossil Woman- A Life of Mary Anning” is the most deeply researched book on her life and legacy. It is available through most book stores. Tom regularly shares moments in Mary’s life on BlueSky at https://bsky.app/profile/tomsharperocks.bsky.social @tomsharperocks.bsky.social   You can follow Michael’s telling of Mary’s story through the various links at… https://linktr.ee/TheseCuriousThings This link includes a booking link to the 2026 Adelaide Fringe show "A Curious Thing- The Story of Mary Anning."   You can find Michael on Blue Sky at https://bsky.app/profile/heapsgood.bsky.social   To connect with Dinosaur University on Facebook, follow us at https://www.facebook.com/DinosaurUniversity   At Palaeo Jam, we have an Instagram account at https://www.instagram.com/palaeo_jam

    The Curious Life of Mary Anning
  3. 9 Jan

    The Art and Science of Gondwanarama!

    How do you go from being a young kid growing up around Riversleigh terrified of a reconstructed Thylacoleo, and a Diprotodon exhibit at the Queensland Museum, to be one of Australia’s most talented, interesting, emerging palaeo-artists? And how did her emotional responses to these exhibitions help shape the delightful career that Nellie Pease is now creating to much acclaim?   In the latest episode of Palaeo Jam, host Michael Mills chats with palaeo-artist Nellie Pease about her palaeo-artist origin story, while discussing the origin of her fabulous website name, Gondwanarama, a website that describes her as a big fan of marsupials, bugs, & ancient supercontinents. Why those three?   Along the way, they also discuss Nellie’s unique creative process, providing insights for anyone interested in how the creative process works in conjunction with the scientific process. They also chat about a transformational conversation Nellie once had with one of Australia’s most palaeo-artists Dr Peter Trusler, and how it has helped shape where she’s at today.   You can find Nellie on Instagram at @Gondwanarama https://www.instagram.com/gondwanarama   And definitely check out her Etsy shop at… https://www.etsy.com/au/shop/Gondwanarama   Her website is at… https://gondwanarama.com/   You can find Michael on Blue Sky at https://bsky.app/profile/heapsgood.bsky.social   To connect with Dinosaur University on Facebook, follow us at https://www.facebook.com/DinosaurUniversity   At Palaeo Jam, we have an Instagram account at https://www.instagram.com/palaeo_jam

    The Art and Science of Gondwanarama!
  4. 31/12/2025

    The story of Australian Theropods... So far!

    In season 2 of Palaeo Jam, host Michael Mills chatted with Jake Kotevski about the identification of the oldest-known Megaraptorid skull fragment, found on an Eastern Victorian beach in Australia, and what that unique and important fragment might tell us. In this episode, Michael again chats with Jake to find out if any more fossils have been discovered, and if we’ve learnt anything new since then.    Spoiler alert- A big YES! They chat about some fascinating new discoveries and with that, what those discoveries might tell us abut the story of Australian Theropods. At least, what we know of that story, so far!   Along the way, they also chat about Nanotyranous/T.rex, with Jake giving his view on where things now sit.   This is our 50th episode and we could not think of a better topic to celebrate that milestone than theropods from the Land Down Under!   This is Jake’s second appearance on Palaeo Jam. His first was in Season 2, “Theropods Down Under”… https://palaeojam.podbean.com/e/theropods-down-under/   Be sure to check out the following paper that gives a new sense of theropod diversity from Early Cretaceous Australia thata now includes: megaraptorids, an unenlagiine, and for the first time, carcharodontosaurians…   https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02724634.2024.2441903   To read the paper, “A megaraptorid (Dinosauria: Theropoda) frontal from the upper Strzelecki Group (Lower Cretaceous) of Victoria, Australia”, head to… https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195667123002975#sec7   You can find Jake on Twitter at @Dinoman_Jake https://twitter.com/Dinoman_Jake     And on Instagram at @theropods_down_under https://www.instagram.com/theropods_down_under/   The Evans EvoMorph Lab where Jake is based for his PhD is on Twitter at @EvansEvoMorph https://twitter.com/evansevomorph   For information on visiting the Dinosaur Dreaming site mentioned in the podcast, head to… https://www.visitgippsland.com.au/do-and-see/arts-culture-and-heritage/historical-towns-attractions/dinosaur-dreaming   And also Bunurong Coast Education at http://sgcs.org.au/programs.php   You can find Michael on Blue Sky at https://bsky.app/profile/heapsgood.bsky.social   To connect with Dinosaur University on Facebook, follow us at https://www.facebook.com/DinosaurUniversity   At Palaeo Jam, we have an Instagram account at https://www.instagram.com/palaeo_jam

  5. 18/12/2025

    The Lie of De-extinction

    When is a Dire Wolf not a Dire Wolf? When it’s a Grey Wolf made white and fluffy with a few tiny changes. When is a Woolly Mammoth not a Woolly Mammoth? When it's an elephant made hairy by a few tiny changes. And yet one organisation has claimed, with much fanfare, to have brought back the Dire Wolf, and has plans to bring back other species, such as the Woolly Mammoth. In this episode of Palaeo Jam, host Michael Mills chats with Dr Nic Rawlence, Associate Professor of Ancient DNA at the University of Otago – Ōtākou Whakaihu Waka about the issue of de-extinction, and how what is claimed to have happened, whatever it is, is definitely not that! Nic is a palaeontologist and ancient DNA specialist working at the sharp end of what genetic science can genuinely tell us about the past. He is a prominent voice pushing back against the hype surrounding so-called “de-extinction,” arguing that what we are seeing is not the recreation of lost species. Such sensational claims can also distract from the more urgent work of conserving species that still exist, and give a false sense that extinction doesn't matter so much anymore, when it does. You can check out Nic’s extensive research profile at… https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Nicolas-Rawlence   Nic was recently awarded the prestigious New Zealand Association of Scientists’ Cranwell Medal for excellence in communicating science to the general public in any area of science or technology… https://www.otago.ac.nz/news/newsroom/prestigious-medal-for-science-communicator   You can follow Nic on Twitter at… https://x.com/nic_rawlence_nz   You can find Michael on Blue Sky at… https://bsky.app/profile/heapsgood.bsky.social   To connect with Dinosaur University on Facebook, follow us at… https://www.facebook.com/DinosaurUniversity   At Palaeo Jam, we have an Instagram account at… https://www.instagram.com/palaeo_jam

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Palaeo Jam is a podcast exploring a range of issues in science and the community, using the multidisciplinary aspects of, and public fascination with, palaeontology. Palaeo Jam uses fossils, and other objects and research from palaeontology, to explore a range of scientific and social issues, and incorporate key discoveries into its content. That fancy description aside, it’s really an opportunity for host Michael Mills to chat with his palaeo pals and learn some cool things! Each episode is restricted to a maximum of 30 minutes. Each episode has a panel of up to three guests, and is hosted by award-winning science communicator Michael Mills. You can buy a Palaeo Jam mug, and eventually othersPalaeo Jam merch from the Dinosaur University shop at https://dinosaur-university.teemill.com/