RugbyKO

Katrina Oxenham

A Podcast that delivers rugby insights from passionate enthusiasts from the grassroots to the global game. Players, punters, professionals and partners providing uncensored opinions on how the sport of rugby can thrive again.

  1. Bula Drua

    25/03/2022

    Bula Drua

    Mick Byrne is the head coach of the Fijian Drua. Hear how Mick made the transition from playing AFL to rugby, to AFL coach, rugby assistant coach, and now Head Coach of the new franchise in the Super Rugby competition, the Fiji Drua. We dive into the lessons Mick has learned over his extensive career, and why he chose to enroll in a psychology course to address his own ideas when his coaching wasn’t being acted on. Find out what differentiates a great coach from a good one, and why team culture and giving everyone a voice is so key in maintaining the relationship between assistant and head coach when challenges arise. Listen in to hear why Fijian players are so passionate, what this means for their game, and how the inclusion of two pacific island teams into Super rugby is helping prevent the skills drain to offshore teams. We wrap up with Mick’s hopes and goals for the Fijian Drua, and what you can expect from them going forward.  An introduction to Mick Byrne, head coach of the Fijian Drua. How Mick landed the job after his roles as head coach in Australian Rules and assistant rugby coach.Why Mick made the switch from AFL to rugby and his journey from player to coach. What differentiates the good coaches from the great coaches like Mick: different approaches to discipline and Mick’s enrolment in a psychology course. Being the assistant coach at the Wallabies and the All Blacks, and what Mick learned about the game of rugby in the country.  How Mick coped with agitation and disagreements with the head coach: creating a unified team culture. Why rugby in Fiji has become part of the fabric of the nation and why so many are passionate players and also fans of the team and the game. What the pacific island teams are bringing to the Super Rugby franchise. Managing coaching the Fijian Drua through the COVID-19 pandemic; the pros and cons. How the induction of the Fijian Drua into Super rugby is addressing the loss of local players to offshore teams. The coaching staff involved in the Fijian Drua. How World Rugby is supporting the Fijian Drua.Mick's advice to other coaches and what he's learned throughout his career. Sticking it out when the team turns on you: Mick’s suggestions on building a good environment. Why the Fijian Sevens' success hasn't translated to Fijian 15-a-side. Mick’s plans for the Fijian Drua going into the next phase of the season.The Fijian Drua’s chances in the Super Rugby pool, and their goals. “I actually started to really enjoy the Aussie rules game. Running around fit my build. I was able to do a lot more in Australian Rules football with my build than I was able to do in rugby.” — Mick Byrne [0:02:24]  “My message wasn’t getting through. I still believe I was giving out good information, but it wasn’t being heard, it wasn’t being acted on. Something had to change: either I was going to have to give coaching away and get a real job, or I was going to have to work on myself.” — Mick Byrne [0:05:28]  “When it came to rugby, [Fijians] play the good parts of rugby. They don’t get caught up in the aspects of the game that are a bit stifling, they like to play the fun parts of the game.” — Mick Byrne [0:10:30]  Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Mick Byrne on LinkedIn Fijian Drua Katrina Email Address RugbyKO

    32 min
  2. The 'Mic' Likes Wykes

    11/03/2022

    The 'Mic' Likes Wykes

    After his very recent retirement from playing Rugby, like many players, life after professional rugby can be difficult. Sam Wykes’ experience was no different at first.  However, with some determined resolve,  he has created a wealth of opportunities for himself, from commentating to coaching and even corporate recruitment.  We hear what Sam’s transition from the life of a professional athlete to a desk job  has been like, and how he has continued to give back to the rugby community.  We find out how COVID-19 and injury combined to spell the end of his career, and how he handled the difficult emotions surrounding this.  Sam also talks to us about his exciting new role and experience as a commentator for the Fijian Drua and some of the challenges he's faced, and what he is looking forward to this Super Rugby season. We reminisce over his time at the Western Force and the Waratahs, and how the culture differs between these two teams.  Welcome to Sam Wykes, professional rugby player, commentator, and recruiter.What Sam enjoyed most about playing professional rugby, and what he’s going to miss most. The lessons learned from transitioning from playing sport for a living into the corporate world: don’t expect to be good from the start, and adjusting to the office environment.Sam’s experience playing in Japan, from living there to learning from some of the best rugby minds in the world. What Sam thinks the Fijian Drua will bring to Super Rugby. Where to hear Sam commentating.The training he has received to prepare him for commentating, and the technical challenges that he faced. Moving from the Western Force to the Waratahs and the differences Sam noticed between the two teams. What Sam did during his time off due to injury, and the importance of giving back to the sport at the grassroots level. The connections and social skills that will help grow the game, and getting the game back to where it was. Skills that Sam transferred from rugby to working in recruitment (not computer skills).The importance of having tough conversations, from rugby to the corporate world.  “You’re surrounded by good people, a lot. Whether you’re in a winning team or a losing team it doesn’t matter. And any time I treated rugby like a job, I was unhappy. Because at the end of the day you’re supposed to enjoy it.” — @SamWykes4 [0:01:24]  “I always say ‘Yes’ to opportunities, even if I’ve got no experience, or probably no right being there.” — @SamWykes4 [0:11:21]  “We need all our teams firing at the moment to have a strong Wallabies team. There’s enough talent out there. I just think we’re neglecting the grassroots or the public school system to be able to get rugby playing again.” — @SamWykes4 [0:17:33]  “What I did is what I normally do, is just see if I can be of service to someone else. There’s always someone worse off than you, and there’s always someone better off than you. So, you just need to stay grateful.” — @SamWykes4 [0:19:28] Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Sam Wykes on LinkedIn Katrina Email Address RugbyKO Email RugbyKO

    28 min
  3. Improving India

    03/03/2022

    Improving India

    Developing Rugby India with Nasser Hussain Most nations that play rugby also play cricket. One notable exception is India, where rugby is still a fledgling sport currently categorised under ‘other sports’. Today, we talk to Nasser Hussain, the CEO of Rugby India and the man responsible for putting the game on the map in India. Tune in to find out how Nasser himself got involved in the game and why he felt it was important to become an accredited world rugby trainer. We learn about the two major challenges facing Rugby India (infrastructure and media exposure), and what Nasser and his team are doing to address these. From the union’s upcoming targets for the high-performance Asian Games and Olympic teams to maintaining rugby participation at a grassroots level through the pandemic while supporting the community in any way possible, Nasser and his team are doing an incredible job! Join us to learn all about how this inspiring man is rousing a nation to rugby.  Key Points From This Episode: Who Nasser Hussain is and his journey from playing to chairing Rugby India. The roles that Nasser and his father have played in Rugby India and the game itself. His perspective on what being an accredited world rugby trainer means for Rugby India.How COVID-19 has affected participation in rugby in India and what Nasser has been doing to try and maintain it. The role of commercial sponsors in supporting the growth of rugby in India. How cricket and rugby in India co-exist and why Nasser feels they hold different spaces.The infrastructure across India that is a challenge to the growth of rugby. The challenge of media exposure for rugby in India and what Nasser is doing to address it. Rugby India's broad strategic plan to target the Asian Games and the Olympics.  The structure of Rugby India, from the union to the executive team and the roles of each. What success to the administrative side of Rugby India looks like: good governance, model implementation, and improving high performance. Why it’s important to move Rugby out of the ‘other sports’ category.What the Stand United movement was and how Rugby India supported the community through the pandemic.  “What we identified within Rugby India was there are a lot of players, but not enough coaches, not enough match officials. I think that's [one of] the challenges for developing unions.” — Nasser Hussain [0:04:39]  “During COVID, surprisingly, we’ve managed to get more partners on board. The fact that we didn’t have much to do on field [meant that] we spent time doing things which you put on the back burner and don’t prioritise, which are important as well.” — Nasser Hussain [0:08:30]  “Our focus is to ensure [that] our management and administration is top-notch, and hopefully everything else follows suit.” — Nasser Hussain [0:19:56]  Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Nasser Hussain on LinkedIn Rugby India Government of Odisha Blade India Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology BLK Katrina Email Address RugbyKO Email RugbyKO

    23 min
  4. United

    24/02/2022

    United

    #A Day In Union is about uniting and connecting the rugby community globally.  The initiative  of Greg Mumm and John Anderson, A Day In Union aims to bring rugby back to its grassroots and shift the narrative to a more positive one., uniting all. We discuss where the idea came from, how everyone can get involved, and what different clubs around Australia are doing to celebrate it. We also find out what John has been up to as president of The Rugby Club of Victoria, and how he's making the sport more inclusive. Gregg tells us about his international coaching experience, athletes and their life post professional sport, and how the Fijian optimism and cultural identity inspired him to do a master's degree. We discuss the challenges facing players dealing with the end of their professional careers, and what to look out for as A Day In Union (26th of March) approaches.  We chat about  how Gregg and John brought the concept of A Day In Union to life.  Bringing all levels of rugby together, with a united goal for rugby. When A Day In Union is (26th of March), what it entails and how you can get involved. What the clubs around Australia are doing to celebrate it. Who is involved as ambassadors for A Day in Union.Taking the grass-roots approach, and the catalysts behind realising the efficacy of it. Why giving back to communities and organisations will unify the game. Shifting the narrative in the game from divisive to positive; Gregg’s initiatives.John’s role as the president of the Rugby Club of Victoria, and what this entails.Bringing wheelchair rugby into the rugby community. Gregg’s experience of international coaching, and athlete management.Growing rugby in the Pacific: the benefits of Pacific clubs entering Super Rugby.How the Final Whistle supports the development of an athlete's identity outside of the sport. John’s experience mentoring players to the end of their professional sporting career. Why it's beneficial to invest in players' outside of rugby before the end of their careerThe lessons Gregg has learned transitioning from rugby to farming. Using #ADayInUnion. “Rugby, unfortunately, as in most sports, was struggling with this concept of how to manage COVID and the impacts of it, so [A Day in Union] was about creating a good news story, about creating something to look forward to.” — John Anderson [0:02:06] . “The game needs to go back to looking after its own people and own communities. This is hopefully a step in that direction, where we are reminded that the game’s great if we look after those communities and share the values and the fun and enjoyment that we grew up with.” — @gmumm1 [0:10:09] “It’s almost been cooler in rugby circles to be divisive, lately, than it has been to be collaborative, so this is just reminding people that ‘let’s come together and tell good stories rather than bad stories’.” — @gmumm1 [0:12:24] A Day In Union John Anderson on LinkedIn Greg Mumm on LinkedIn The Positive Rugby Foundation The Final Whistle RugbyKO

    32 min
  5. Sevens Heaven

    02/02/2022

    Sevens Heaven

    Today’s guest, Robbie McRobbie, is a Scottish-born, British-educated, former police officer who is currently the CEO of the Hong Kong Rugby Union (HKRU). Furthermore, he is a recipient of an MBE award for the role he has played in changing the lives of at-risk youth through sport, as well as the work he has done to advance UK/Hong Kong relations.  HKRU was the only national sports association to have a charity component, and we hear about the success of HKRU’s Community Foundation.  Robbie's focus though is currently on the globally recognised Hong Kong Sevens Tournament, which Robbie is hopeful to have up and running again in November. The pandemic has meant that the past few years have not been easy, and Robbie speaks with humility about the challenges they have faced and the exciting plans he has for HKRUs future. Robbie shares what his journey from the Hong Kong Police force to the Hong Kong Rugby Union (HKRU) has looked likeThe honour that Robbie was awarded in 2019Work being done by Operation Breakthrough, and Robbie’s involvement in the organisation HKRUs Community Foundation, and the instrumental role that Robbie played in setting it up. How HKRU is working towards eliminating the polarisation which plagues Hong Kong. Robbie explains how he feels about being the person in charge of the very successful Hong Kong Sevens Tournament.Some of the factors which he believes have contributed to the success of the Hong Kong Sevens Tournament. The profound impact that the pandemic has had on HKRU.HKRU’s strategy for organisational sustainability.  The Growth being experienced by Hong Kong’s sports sector.Robbie explains how the Hong Kong Premiership works, and the differences between the men’s and women’s premierships. A key focus of HKRU’s current strategic plan.The effort that HKRU is putting into promoting TRY Rugby, and the challenges of keeping the youth interested in the sport. HKRU’s relationship with World Rugby and other rugby unions. What the future holds for Hong Kong’s rugby teams. “[At Operation Breakthrough] we used sport and engagement with police officers to try and provide them with some positive role models and to try to break down barriers between the cops and the kids so the two sides stopped seeing each other as the enemy.” — Robbie McRobbie [0:06:39]  “If you’re lucky enough to be handed the reins, the mantle, the opportunity to take a lead with the Rugby Sevens, you feel very much like you are being handed a family heirloom to look after.” — Robbie McRobbie [0:12:36]  “Our hope and aim and objective is to get the Sevens back as soon as it is safe and practical. We have a date for November this year, so fingers crossed for that.” — Robbie McRobbie [0:18:59]  “One of the key focuses of the current strategic plan is to become a more data-driven organisation.” — Robbie McRobbie [0:31:14]  Hong Kong Rugby Union Hong Kong Rugby Union Community Foundation Operation Breakthrough  Kai Tak Sports Park Premier Sports Asia Robbie McRobbie on LinkedIn RugbyKO

    53 min
  6. 6 Degrees with Leah

    02/02/2022

    6 Degrees with Leah

    Sport, rugby in particular, formed the foundation of Nick Leah’s childhood. Walcha where he grew up,  had several Ex-Wallabies and aspirational Wallaby trialists namely Peter Fenwick – who captained the Wallabies & Andrew Laurie who both along with his Dad drove  a lot of the sport in the town & coached Rugby and Cricket. His dad also coached NSW Country and various zone representative teams, and heavily involved in reviving Junior Rugby in Country NSW during the late 70’s and early 80’s.   This  passion for developing the next generation of players took Nick from a passionate player as a child into an equally passionate coach and development expert as an adult.  Over the past 20 years Nick has worked with sportspeople at all levels all over the world (with a 1 in 4 record of producing professionally contracted players!), and today, he is the Global General Manager of 6 Degree Sports, an elite performance consultancy which he shares some details about in today’s episode.  We also get into what drives Nick to do the work that he does, what he sees as the main issues preventing Australian rugby from thriving as it should, and why he believes that creating a clear vision is essential for the future of the game. Key Points From This Episode: A rundown of Nick’s professional background.Nick explains the fundamental role that sport has played in his life since he was a child.Inspiration behind the founding of Ignite Rugby Group, now 6 Degree Sport.The key factor that made Nick’s hometown so successful in sports. Nick’s thoughts on the current state of Australian rugby. Characteristics that Nick believes make a good coach. Some of the pros and cons of Australian rugby. Learnings from a study that Nick conducted on a former NFL player. Articles that Nick has written in the past. What Australian rugby needs to do to gain back support of the players and the fans. How women’s rugby is evolving across the world. Nick explains what the 6 Degree Sport platform consists of. A new Rugby App launching soon in conjunction with The NSW Positive Rugby Foundation.What the 6 Degree Sports platform consists of and how it will benefit rugby players.“I saw what an organisation could do when everything is interconnected and there’s clarity around what you can do, and then I saw the exact opposite.” — Nick Leah [0:08:16]  “The Ignite concept was born out of, “How do we create a platform that can provide the information that grassroots coaches can easily access and provide to the players?” — Nick Leah [0:10:08]  “The best coaches provide a clear vision, can get people together, and are also looking at what’s next.” — Nick Leah [0:19:41]  “In terms of skill development and acquisition, the body learns when the conditions for each repetition is slightly different – the body then has to adapt to get movement to a certain ‘end-point’.' — Nick Leah [0:26:51]  Six Degree Sports Six Degree Sports on Facebook Six Degree Sports App Chris Coyle Nick Leah on LinkedIn Walcha Rugby Union on Facebook Country Rugby Union

    44 min
  7. Tonga in Union

    02/02/2022

    Tonga in Union

    On the 14th of January 2022, disaster struck Tonga and its surrounding islands in the form of a submarine volcanic eruption deemed to be hundreds of times more powerful than the Hiroshima bomb. For a country that is reliant on farming and rainwater, this incident has had devastating impacts on the Tongan people. In today’s episode, Peter Harding and Toutai Kefu, the CEO and Head Coach of the Tongan Rugby Union respectively, join us to share what the situation looks like on the ground at the moment and how you can assist the various organizations that are helping to rebuild Tonga. We can’t have a Rugby KO episode without at least a little bit of rugby talk, so at the end of the episode you’ll hear about what the past few years have looked like for the Tongan Rugby Union, and their exciting plans for the future.  Key Points From This Episode: How the recent Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha’apai volcano has affected Tonga. One of the major benefits of sport, and why it’s needed in Tonga now more than ever. Examples of how you can assist the people of Tonga through this challenging time.Peter explains how the donated goods will reach those who need them.Future struggles that Toutai and Peter anticipate for Tongans.How the government is assisting people living on the small islands surrounding Tonga. Organizations that are assisting the people of Tonga.Assurance that your donations will get to where they are needed. A rundown of what 2021 looked like for the Tongan Rugby Union.Plans for the future of the Tongan Rugby Union. “Sport’s good for health but also good for mental health. And I can tell from talking to people over there, some people are going to need a bit of a lift because there’s a lot of hard work ahead.” — Peter Harding [0:03:56]  “Anything we can take would help at the moment because there’s a lot of people without stuff over there at the moment.” — Peter Harding [0:06:38]  “We rely a lot on the land to feed ourselves, and that has been compromised, so I think in the coming weeks that food shortage is going to be a real problem.” — Toutai Kefu [0:07:32]  “We’re the smallest country in World Rugby, and our budget at the World Cup is the smallest, and we’ve got the smallest population, but we’ve got the best players.”  — Peter Harding [0:16:27]  Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: GoFundMe Tonga Tsunami Emergency Fundraiser Tonga Rugby Union on Twitter Tonga Rugby Union on Facebook Youth In Union Red Cross New Zealand High Commission, Tonga Katrina Email Address RugbyKO Email RugbyKO

    23 min
  8. Geoff Parkes - Writing and Roaring

    08/07/2021

    Geoff Parkes - Writing and Roaring

    Geoff Parkes is the author of ‘A World in Union - The Global Battle for Rugby Supremacy, published in 2017 to critical acclaim. He also writes for Australia's leading interactive sports website The Roar in his weekly column on rugby, 'The Wrap'.  He has published almost 450 articles, with almost 2 million views.  I chat to Geoff about Rugby, the writing he does for the sport, his views on where the game is at, and his views on the global game and its future  Geoff talks about his journey with Rugby, writing for The Roar and writing his in depth book about global rugby. He discusses the best article he has written for The Roar and how he measures success. Geoff talks about the Rugby World Cup and an experience of writing articles that were immediate, on the pulse and by being immersed in the experience, it  enabled the atmosphere to truly be captured. Geoff says when writing online, the opinions of the general public appear live and are portrayed in a conversational way. He says it tests you as the rugby audience is informed, full of opinion and you must have your facts right, while also interacting with your readers. Geoff  tells us about the motivation for writing his book and why it was well received and consumed by the rugby and wider sports audience. The motivation  Geoff says, was to address some discontent in the game and interview and discuss rugby people from around the globe. It evolved from there. World Rugby, SANZAAR, international competitions, media & broadcasting rights, weaker nations, and the impact of all of these on Rugby globally. In the book it says 'A confused rugby calendar is subjected to a ‘land grab’ from clubs and national unions, all striving to maximize revenue.' We discuss whether the calendar has since been even more confused, particularly with the impacts of Covid globally. Geoff says it is not a clearer calendar or is there any real improvement in scheduling.  Various reasons, including the Northern v Southern Hemisphere scheduling that is layered and difficult particularly with club competition. Private equity have invested in the game, there is an increased self interest in the game and the calendar is full with conflicting schedules. In the book he discusses player welfare and say ‘Player welfare concerns are cited by all and sundry, yet are cast aside as soon as there is a dollar to be made. ‘ We talk about this, what else can be done and the risks associated with  this highly combative sport. We discuss  the sport becoming professional,  resources in the game broadly and how they are distributed, and the main globally challenges facing Rugby Union. Geoff discuss how World Rugby has an Investment in developing parts of the game, non traditional markets, women’s, youth, developing nations and  a lot of resources poured into these areas, but there is always never enough. He states the commercial base in the game is not large enough in Australia. Domestic pressures occur from significant other sports in Australia, and the sheer population size and followers of Rugby Union provide challenges compared to other nations.  We talk about his thoughts on World Rugby bringing the sport together for a common goal globally when there appears a ’lack of a joined-up response from the major governing bodies whose self-interest is undermining the foundations of the sport ‘. I ask Geoff if we have the right strategies and people in place to bring the game forward? Does he have faith in ‘the game they play in heaven’. and its future? Geoff talks about his interest in writing a fiction book next time, his research into concussion in sport and his continuing support for Rugby Union.

    52 min

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A Podcast that delivers rugby insights from passionate enthusiasts from the grassroots to the global game. Players, punters, professionals and partners providing uncensored opinions on how the sport of rugby can thrive again.