The Conditional Release Program

Jack the Insider and Joel Hill

Welcome to The Conditional Release Program, a podcast that delves into the netherworld of cults, crims and con artists. Who would have thought a spicy chest cough would turn everyone so completely mad? Our weekly show covers the conspiracy theorists that created a 'shadow pandemic' of political idiocy and violent ideation within the fringe of politics. From time to time we get our hands even dirtier with true crime deep dives. Jack is a seasoned expert in the true crime genre, having written and spoken extensively about Roger Rogerson, Stan 'the man' Smith and, of course, the Fine Cotton Fiasco. In various episodes he guides us through the dark underbelly of Australian crime in his trademark storytelling style. The world is getting weird and we are getting weird with it. Let's watch as democracy crumbles into a smouldering heap - and take note of the kids carrying the matches and the metho. Hosted by Jack the Insider and Joel Hill with an occasional rotation of guests that generally share our distaste toward the lunatic fringe.

  1. The Two Jacks - Episode 127 - Net Zero, Net Loss: Climate Politics Reshaping the Right

    4 DAYS AGO

    The Two Jacks - Episode 127 - Net Zero, Net Loss: Climate Politics Reshaping the Right

    AI slop shownotes as usual. Enjoy! Opening Segment (00:00 - 02:00)Personal catch-up between the hostsHong Kong Jack celebrates a major birthday in Macau with surprise family visitDiscussion of Hong Kong-Macau travel via new bridge/tunnel (1 hour 20 minutes door-to-door)Major Discussion TopicsAustralian Politics - Coalition Crisis (02:00 - 15:30)Key Points: Polling disaster: Coalition at 27% approval rating, Labor leads 58-42 two-party preferredElectoral wipeout: Liberal Party holds minimal metropolitan seats across major citiesParty structure collapse: Lack of grassroots organization compared to historical ALP branchesDemographic breakdown: Libs losing women, young people, multicultural communities (except 65+ voters)Leadership pressure: Susan Ley facing potential challenge, comparisons to "Brendan Nelson months"Policy tensions: Net zero commitments causing internal fracturesNotable Quote: Troy Bramston - "There is no guarantee the Liberal Party will survive" Climate Policy and Net Zero Debate (07:10 - 14:40)Key Points: National Climate Risk Assessment Report findings:400% increase in heat-related mortality in Sydney2.7 million work days lost by 2061 due to heatwaves$600 billion property value losses by 2050$40 billion annual natural disaster costsPublic opinion: 77% of Australians want government climate actionPolitical implications: Andrew Hastie threatens to quit front bench over net zero policyInternational context: UK Tories' experience with climate policy costsVictorian Politics - Liberal Party Internal Struggles (21:00 - 26:00)Key Points: Philip Davis survives challenge from Greg Mirabella for Liberal Party State DirectorDiscussion of Labor government vulnerabilities despite Liberal Party dysfunctionAnalysis of "machete bins" controversy and opposition messaging failuresUnited States - Charlie Kirk Assassination (26:50 - 33:00)Key Points: Tyler Robertson (22) charged with Kirk's murderDiscussion of political discourse breakdown in AmericaSocial media radicalization of young menCriticism of premature political speculation (Barry Cassidy example)International AffairsUS-Korea Relations Crisis (33:15 - 36:50)ICE raid on 300 South Korean workers in Georgia battery facilityOnly one Korean worker chose to stay after offered returnImplications for US foreign investment attractivenessUK Political Upheaval (40:25 - 58:15)Major Topics: Tommy Robinson Rally: 100,000+ protesters in LondonImmigration tensions: 50,000 asylum seekers annuallyStarmer's crisis: Peter Mandelson appointment controversy (Jeffrey Epstein connections)Leadership challenges: Calls for Starmer's resignation from both left and rightConservative Party collapse: Danny Kruger defects to Reform UKFrance - Government Instability (62:30 - 64:00)Sébastien Le Corneau named new PM after confidence voteBudget crisis and spending control issuesMiddle East - Israel-US Tensions (64:00 - 67:30)Netanyahu takes responsibility for Al-Yudid airbase incidentDiscussion of Arab neighbors' role in regional solutionsQatari investment commitments to US ($3.3 trillion over decade)Sports Coverage (67:30 - 79:00)Spring Racing Carnival PreviewDiscussion of Melbourne Cup preparation and "pagan fertility festival" atmosphereNRL Finals AnalysisRaiders vs Broncos "golden point" thriller described as exceptional rugby leagueMelbourne, Sharks, Panthers, and Brisbane assessment for finalsAFL Finals PredictionsPreliminary Finals Preview:Hawthorn vs Geelong (favor Geelong by 20 points)Collingwood vs Brisbane (favor Collingwood)Praise for Josh Weddle (Hawthorn) and Jai Newcombe's finals performancesClosing Segment - Literary Humor (79:00 - 82:30)H.L. Mencken Epitaph: "If after I depart this vale, you ever remember me and have thought to please my ghost, forgive some sinner and wink your eye at some homely girl" Spike Milligan Epitaph: "See, I told you I wasn't well" Proposed Episode Titles"Coalition Collapse: The Liberal Party's Existential Crisis""From Polls to Protest: Democracy Under Pressure""The Unraveling: Political Upheaval Across Three Continents""27% and Falling: When Political Parties Face Extinction""Net Zero, Net Loss: Climate Politics Reshaping the Right"Contact InformationTwitter: @JacktheInsiderEmail: ConditionerReleaseProgram@gmail.comEpisode Duration: 1 hour 22 minutes

    1h 24m
  2. Episode 197 - March for Australia - Part 3 with Dave

    4 DAYS AGO

    Episode 197 - March for Australia - Part 3 with Dave

    These AI slop shownotes are very funny. Third and final part of the series. Enjoy! PS - apologies for the delay on this release. It's still well worth the listen. I wanted to give it a proper edit but life is on ultra hard mode at the moment so it's going up in all its unvarnished glory! Joel Hill welcomes listeners to the Condition Release Program, substituting for the usual "Jackless" format by interviewing Dave about his weekend attending the controversial "March for Australia" rally in Sydney. The episode explores ground-level observations, organiser controversies, the interplay of far-right and conspiracist groups, and reflections on the fractured dynamics between organisers, attendees, and broader communities. The conversation highlights the worrying normalisation of Nazi participation in Australian street movements and the lack of timely mainstream media coverage or understanding. Character & Alias Mapping Alias/Nickname Real Name or Role Brief Description Joel Hill Joel Hill Host Dave Dave Guest/interviewee and rally attendee Beck/Beck Freedom Likely Rebecca (rally organiser) Central organiser, alleged to enable Nazis Monica Monica Smith Flip-flopping public figure Jesse Jesse Stewart, son of Tim Delivered rally banner Cossack Unspecified Figure in rally controversies NSN National Socialist Network Australian neo-Nazi group Guru Unspecified (conspiracist influencer) Referenced by attendees MGG Michael Gray-Grope Noted attendee, post-heart attack Dr. Nino ("Dr. Dan") Video/clip maker Influencer in the reporting scene Bozy/Hoodie/Onyx/Mark Mack Various minor far-right figures Referenced as speakers or organisers

    51 min
  3. The Two Jacks - Episode 126 - Bike Lanes, Black Markets, and Boris Files

    14 SEPT

    The Two Jacks - Episode 126 - Bike Lanes, Black Markets, and Boris Files

    Episode SummaryEpisode 126 delivers comprehensive analysis of Australian and international news, politics, and sport. The hosts tackle everything from sovereign citizen movements and government policy disasters to AFL finals and international political chaos, maintaining their trademark blend of serious analysis and wry humor. Listener CorrespondenceGrant ("Tri-Valve") - Multiple TopicsNRL Trainers on Field: Criticism of excessive trainer presence during games, particularly Alfie Langer's extended field time with Broncos and Queensland Origin teamsMedia Language Issues: Channel 9's problematic "Exonerated Child Murderer Folbigg" banner - classic oxymoronInternational Travel: Amusing encounter with Collingwood supporters in the Sahara Desert, Libya (2010)Bike Lane Safety: Melbourne bike lanes creating pedestrian hazards, particularly for country visitors unfamiliar with urban cycling infrastructureAFLW vs Netball: Questions about potential impact of women's AFL on traditional netball participation and viewershipAndrew - Sovereign CitizensCommunity Support: Concerns about significant local support for Paul Punker and Desi Freeman in high country communitiesHidden Numbers: Unexpected prevalence of sovereign citizen ideology among seemingly ordinary citizensMajor News AnalysisSovereign Citizen Movement & WieambillaGeographic Clusters: Identified hotspots including Gladstone/WA Wheatbelt, Albury-Wodonga, Northern Rivers, SW QueenslandPolice Risk: Increased threat assessment protocols required for warrant servicesHistorical Context: Long-standing anti-establishment culture in remote eastern Victoria dating to 1970sFreeman Manhunt: Police belief in community assistance for Desi Freeman; rugged Buckland Valley terrain complicating searchErin Patterson SentencingSentence: Life imprisonment with 33-year non-parole period (eligible 2056)Judge's Reasoning: Justice Chris Beale noted extensive premeditation required for crimeSolitary Confinement: 22 hours daily due to case publicityCommunity Impact: Butchers no longer selling mushroom-based products; "Beef Wellington" renamed "Beef en Croute"Bruce Lehrmann Federal Court AppealAppeal Failure: Federal Court unimpressed with Lehrmann's challengeFiona Brown: Only figure emerging with reputation intact despite career destructionCompensation Disparity: Call for equal treatment compared to Brittany Higgins settlementJacinta Price Immigration CommentsABC Interview Controversy: Claims about Labor's immigration strategy targeting Indian community votesLiberal Response: Julie Bishop apologized on Price's behalf; Price refused personal apologyBusiness Backlash: Harris Park businesses refusing Liberal engagement until unconditional Price apologyElectoral Strategy: Cos Samaras noted elections won/lost in NSW/Victoria, not through minority group alienationPolicy DisastersBlack Market TobaccoMarket Indicators: Small country town (25,000) now has five tobacconists - unprecedentedPolicy Failure: Excise increases creating massive black market, including Iraqi cigarette factories serving Australian marketPrice Comparison: Legal cigarettes $55-60 per pack vs $120 for carton of 10 packs illegallyLaw Enforcement: Hundreds of millions spent on policing sophisticated black marketsHistorical Parallel: Ignoring 20th century prohibition lessons from alcohol and bettingRespectability of Law-breaking: Creating acceptance of illegal activity, similar to SP bookmaking eraVaping PolicyJoint Failure: Bipartisan decision ignoring harm reduction evidenceUnregulated Danger: Current black market vapes potentially more dangerous than regulated alternativesInternational PoliticsThomas Sewell Deportation PetitionPetition Numbers: 117,000+ signatures on Change.org for neo-Nazi leader deportationLegal Challenges: New Zealand citizenship complications; military service precedent (Bertie Kidd case)Current Charges: Violent disorder, assault by kicking, discharge missile, police intimidationUS Politics - Trump/Epstein FilesBirthday Book Evidence: House Oversight Committee confirms Trump birthday message to EpsteinWhite House Response: Claims of forgery; potential legal battle with Wall Street JournalEconomic Concerns: US jobs market weakened (22,000 jobs vs expected higher), unemployment 4.2% to 4.3%Tariff Impact: Goldman Sachs reports 86% absorbed by importers, unsustainable long-termJohn Deere Warning: Agricultural equipment manufacturer's poor results concerning for rural Trump baseEuropean Political ChaosFrance - Government CollapseConfidence Vote: PM François Bayrou lost 364-194, far-right and far-left coalitionSpending Cuts: Proposed welfare caps and public holiday removal triggered downfallFiscal Crisis: 5.8% GDP deficit, 114% debt-to-GDP ratioPolitical Paralysis: No major party willing to make necessary hard economic decisionsUK - Boris Johnson Influence ScandalThe Boris Files: Leaked data reveals post-PM profiteering from office connectionsGreensill Echoes: Similarities to David Cameron lobbying scandalLabour Leadership: Keir Starmer faces deputy leadership election, working-class voters moving to ReformPolling: Reform UK leading but insufficient for parliamentary majorityImmigration Policy: Dublin Agreement unavailable post-Brexit; family reunion advantages drawing Channel crossingsGermany - Migration PoliticsCologne Agreement: All parties except AfD pledge only positive migration discourse in local electionsStrategic Error: Likely to entrench support for far-right AfD by dismissing legitimate concernsInternational RelationsChina EngagementBob Carr & Dan Andrews: Attending 80th anniversary of Japanese defeat in ChinaPhoto Opportunities: Andrews pictured with Kim Jong-un and Vladimir PutinCommercial Motivations: Unnamed political friend claims Andrews "making millions" from China connectionsInfluence Trading: Xi Jinping meetings providing significant business leverageMiddle East & UkraineMarina Hyde Quote: "The path to peace still goes through politicians with power. Many of them are still terrible people. They will still have to have unpleasant and even toxic conversations in which horse trading and moral compromise are inevitable"UN Role: Defense of UN as necessary forum for engaging "terrible people" while criticizing corrupt agenciesSports CoverageNRL Finals Week 1Matchups: Raiders v Broncos (Canberra), Storm v Bulldogs (Melbourne), Warriors v Panthers (Auckland), Sharks v Roosters (Shark Park)Venue Criticism: Shark Park described as "disaster" with rat problems, unfit for purposeForm Analysis: Storm struggling after losses to Roosters and Broncos; Raiders in strong formAFL Finals AnalysisGeelong Dominance: Cats looking "head and shoulders" above competitionUmpiring Controversy: AFL acknowledged mistake in Geelong v Brisbane Lions match; three-goal turnaround from questionable decisionsUpcoming Matches: Hawks v Crows, Suns v Lions at GabbaJai Newcombe: Hawks midfielder top-rated in all three finals appearancesCharlie Curnow: Carlton star's ordinary finals performances raising trade speculationRugby UnionWallabies Form: Positive signs despite slow starts; exciting brand attracting attentionLions Tour Revenue: Significant funds from upcoming British & Irish Lions tourScheduling Issues: Argentina match poorly timed at 2pm North QueenslandMedia & CultureChildren's Humor AnalysisAnne Althaus Insight: Children funny because not yet socialized, willing to take risksComparison: Ricky Gervais model of saying "unsayable" thingsNew Yorker: Magazine quality decline noted, but cartoons "back in form"Comedy RecommendationsStewart Lee: Ricky Gervais' favorite comedian; unconventional styleQueen/Paddington Joke: Stewart Lee's material about marmalade sandwiches and Prince AndrewMedia BusinessThe Free Press Sale: Bari Weiss publication acquired by Paramount/CBS for $100-200 millionEditorial Control: Weiss reportedly getting "free reign" over CBS political coverageAlternative Media Success: Examples include Claire Lehmann's Quillette, Megyn Kelly's expansionDemocratization Concerns: Tendency toward sensationalism in independent mediaContact InformationJack the Insider: X/Twitter DMs @JacktheInsiderHong Kong Jack: hongkongchat.substack.comEmail: theconditionalreleaseprogram@gmail.com

    1h 34m
  4. 6 SEPT

    Episode 194 - Hell in H Division with Ray Mooney

    In this the second part of Jack's interview with Ray Mooney, Ray speaks of the hell of Pentridge's H Division where prison officers routinely bashed inmates. Ray speaks of the Jenkinson inquiry parliamentary inquiry which delivered no justice but ended the careers of some especially sadistic prison officers but the hell in H Division continued. Ray found himself in H Division. He was beaten regularly. He pledged that he would not break rocks - the work detail in H Division. Despite the beatings, he never did. Ray and Jack take the discussion to other prisons around the country, including the notorious HM Grafton. Why were these places so violent? What did officialdom expect would happen to the prisoners subject to this brutality? The interview concludes on a wide ranging discussion on prison reform and crime prevention.   To find Ray's work check him out at https://raymooney.com/ where he has just about written more books than I've read and charges next to nothing for them. Link to buy the books is here: https://www.amazon.com.au/s?k=%22ray+mooney%22&i=digital-text&crid=33E6XF5AE1JHN&sprefix=ray+mooney+%2Cdigital-text%2C234&ref=nb_sb_noss_2 For more from Ray and VERY good friend of the podcast Emily Webb - check out her interview with Ray here - https://open.spotify.com/episode/5IvI5l4vfoRstIMBQQGueM If you want to help support the show and keep this thing sustainable, the patreon is here: https://www.patreon.com/theconditionalreleaseprogram

    1h 5m
  5. 2 SEPT

    The Two Jacks - Episode 125 - Manhunts, Defamation & Democracy—Chaos Across Continents

    Oh man the AI slop shownotes this week are awful but I have a puppy and law school to do so this is getting low effort. Enjoy! DETAILED SHOWNOTES Summary: The Two Jacks break down the week’s true news rollercoaster: Victoria’s police tragedy, sovereign citizen threats, major legal tussles, global politics, social developments, and the surging finals in AFL, NRL, and rugby. Distilled analysis, with signature banter. TIMESTAMPED SEGMENTS 00:00:00 Introduction, Weather in Hong Kong Joel welcomes listeners, heat in HK, setting the stage. 00:00:34 Victoria Police Manhunt, Sovereign Citizens Dramatic manhunt after two police officers are killed, suspect’s ties to sovereign citizen movement, parallels to Wyambilla tragedy. 00:04:11 Police Tactics & Risks Comments on why police risk assessments and tactical resources are crucial. 00:08:25 Outlaw Gangs, Extremism Why definitions are tricky, group amorphousness, risk to police and society, and danger parallels with outlaw motorcycle clubs and extremist factions. 00:18:51 Linda Reynolds v Brittany Higgins: Defamation Case Reynolds wins $340k; litigation toll on both parties, settlement issues, the public interest defense, and legal costs impact. 00:27:15 Essential Poll Deep Dive PM Albanese’s approval, data on Lay, Allen, Batten, support for the four-day week, AI copyright law, public mood on recognising Palestine. 00:31:26 Australia Expels Iranian Ambassador First such move since WWII, IRGC-linked arson plot at Melbourne synagogue, ASIO’s case, diplomatic fallout, social media reactions. 00:33:39 NDIS Reforms, Autism Debate Butler targets spending cuts, idea of restricting low-level autistic support from the NDIS, personal stories, system sustainability. 00:37:56 Sydney Housing Density, NIMBYism, Planning Wallara station plan, high-density in well-off suburbs, nimbys, Auckland experiment, regulatory cost pressures, building quality concerns. 00:55:11 Oasis at Wembley, Beer Stats, Generational Fandom Concert spectacle, 250k pints of beer, generational audience, band’s new healthy habits. 00:59:19 Trump’s Health, Biden, and US Woes Trump’s visible health issues, flag burning crusade, slump in US tourism, Vegas emptiness, security hassles, global perception trouble. 01:14:29 UK Politics: Farage Rises, Labour Plummets Farage’s surge, Starmer’s poor ratings, immigration fights, sovereignty of UK Parliament, political fluidity. 01:18:39 AFL & NRL Finals, Wallabies Rugby AFL top four discussed, surprise departures, Swans season, NRL ladder, Wallabies revival under Joe Schmidt, broader rugby hopes. SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS Twitter: Vic police manhunt: 2 officers killed, ties to sovereign citizen movement. | Reynolds wins defamation vs. Higgins. | #auspol #twjpodEssential Poll deep dive: Albanese steady, Lay, Allen, Batten ratings. Public split on Palestine, 50% support 4-day week, strong opposition to AI copyright reform. #auspol #twjpodIranian ambassador expelled after synagogue arson plot linked to IRGC. | NDIS/Autism reforms stir debate. | Oasis packs Wembley & breaks beer records. #ausnews #music #twjpodFacebook: Episode 125 of The Two Jacks – Hosted by Jack the Insider (Joel Hill) and Hong Kong Jack. – This week: Victoria's police manhunt and the sovereign citizen threat, Linda Reynolds v Brittany Higgins, Essential Poll shakeups (Albanese, statehood for Palestine, the four-day week, copyright & AI), expulsion of Iran's ambassador over a Melbourne arson plot, NDIS reforms, Sydney housing density, Oasis at Wembley, Trump v Biden health, UK and EU politics, and the finals race in AFL & NRL plus Wallabies rugby. Listen in for analysis, banter, and more! 🎧 #auspol #twjpod

    1h 35m
  6. Episode 193 - Milat - Age Checks - Gaetzy - Aug 31 - 4 corners - PETE!

    24 AUG

    Episode 193 - Milat - Age Checks - Gaetzy - Aug 31 - 4 corners - PETE!

    It has been a busy time on the right wing fringe of politics with a lot of dickheads having tantrums for reasons we can't fathom and they can't articulate. It's been a lot! But first up we have the very much not right wing but still slightly fringe tale of Jeremy Buckingham's search for truth regarding Ivan Milat's actual body count. The problem is, he's gone a bit off track and started making some fairly baseless claims. These can do more harm than good - and it's a classic case of when a politician thinks he's a cop and ends up doing both jobs terribly. We love Jeremy but this one's not going well. Cookers are upset about the coming 'backdoor' to digital tyranny that will see us having to identify ourselves on the internet to get past age checks for naughty content. And while the proliferation of awful content online is something worth looking at, this response ain't it. AND we have Gaetzy who has a solution to the war in Ukraine. It's really dumb. No spoilers. Cooker update has a bit of a lead up to next weeks racist picnic in the park where a lot of people will unite for the cause of - uh - straya? It's vague. We don't really know who is organising it. But they put Bec Freedom out as the media scapegoat and wow she's copped a shellacking. I tell ya what though - if you want to distance this rally from the Nazis who endorsed it, maybe don't put people that endorse nazis in charge? Just a thought, guys. In SovCits we look at the 4 corners episode that recently had a crack at the Common Law folks who love a good mock trial and dashing custom printed polo shirt. It was a good effort, but worth a chat nonetheless. I also preview the first few pages of Pete's new book and it sucks so much more than expected. Like, I knew the premise was silly but WOW does this thing suck. And the price is insane. ----------------------------------------------------------- As usual, if you have any money you must give it to us. Preferably all of it, but if you want to be a jerk you can keep some. Best way to do that is https://www.patreon.com/theconditionalreleaseprogram If you have money and you don't want to give us any of it - but you like beer - then go buy a case or three from https://cbco.beer/ - and use the coupon code CRP10 to get 10% off. It's genuinely good beer and their prices are properly decent.

    1h 38m

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Welcome to The Conditional Release Program, a podcast that delves into the netherworld of cults, crims and con artists. Who would have thought a spicy chest cough would turn everyone so completely mad? Our weekly show covers the conspiracy theorists that created a 'shadow pandemic' of political idiocy and violent ideation within the fringe of politics. From time to time we get our hands even dirtier with true crime deep dives. Jack is a seasoned expert in the true crime genre, having written and spoken extensively about Roger Rogerson, Stan 'the man' Smith and, of course, the Fine Cotton Fiasco. In various episodes he guides us through the dark underbelly of Australian crime in his trademark storytelling style. The world is getting weird and we are getting weird with it. Let's watch as democracy crumbles into a smouldering heap - and take note of the kids carrying the matches and the metho. Hosted by Jack the Insider and Joel Hill with an occasional rotation of guests that generally share our distaste toward the lunatic fringe.

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