The Middle

Andy and Roger

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  1. 4 days ago

    #196 - Protest vote

    🎧 NEW PODCAST EPISODE Episode 196 – Protest vote Is voting for One Nation a rational protest vote, or the political equivalent of sending an angry email and accidentally hitting “reply all”? Andy and Roger respond to a listener who’s fed up with the major parties and considering voting for Pauline Hanson for the first time. They discuss political identity, compulsory voting, why the Liberal Party is struggling to inspire loyalty, and whether minor parties like One Nation and the Greens serve a useful purpose by forcing issues onto the political agenda. The question is whether a protest vote can send a message without also endorsing the people who might end up wielding the power. The conversation turns to Pauline Hanson’s growing political appeal, One Nation’s prospects at the next election and Gina Rinehart’s support for Hanson. Andy and Roger debate whether billionaire backing matters to ordinary voters, what might be motivating Rinehart, and whether One Nation’s current momentum represents a lasting political realignment or simply a particularly large protest vote waiting to happen. Finally, they review Pauline Hanson’s Super Progressive movie: a feature-length political cartoon with few apparent guardrails. There are some genuinely funny moments, some political commentary, and quite a lot that would make an awkward choice for family movie night. Could watching it actually change the mind of someone considering voting One Nation? Hashtags: #OneNation #PaulineHanson #AustralianPolitics #AusPol #FederalPolitics #ProtestVote #GinaRinehart #Immigration #CultureWars #PoliticalCorrectness #Wokeness #DonaldTrump #LaborParty #LiberalParty #AustralianElection #AndyAndRoger #PoliticalCommentary #SuperProgressive #MinorParties #CompulsoryVoting #PoliticalIdentity Engage with us on social media: Website: http://themiddle.site/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_middle_podcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themiddlepodcastandyroger Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/The-Middle-Podcast/100089236832534/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheMiddlePC Email: the.middle.podcast.au@gmail.com Sign up to our subscriber email list: Visit our website: http://themiddle.site/ Or click: https://forms.gle/4qATmU2yiHgjZrej8

    #196 - Protest vote

  2. 18 July

    #195 - Wonder drugs

    🎧 NEW PODCAST EPISODE Episode 195 – Wonder drugs Roger is back in Brisbane, the weather is terrible, and after briefly contemplating the bleakness of bachelor apartment living, Andy and Roger turn their attention to the latest supposed miracle of modern medicine: GLP-1 drugs such as Ozempic, Wegovy and Mounjaro. They explore how these drugs are changing the conversation around obesity, willpower and the constant background hum of “food noise”. If a drug can dramatically reduce hunger and cravings, does that challenge the idea that losing weight is simply a matter of discipline? And if GLP-1s can influence our desire for food—and potentially other rewards—what happens when medicine starts changing not just our bodies, but our behaviour? The discussion broadens to the potential impact on restaurants, alcohol, fast food and a society built around eating and drinking, as well as the inequality created when effective treatments are available to those who can afford them. Andy and Roger also debate whether using weight-loss drugs is “cheating”, whether governments should subsidise them, and whether scepticism about a medical shortcut carries its own risks. Ultimately, they ask whether GLP-1s are merely another pharmaceutical tool—or the beginning of a future where we increasingly medicate our way around the inconvenient parts of being human. Hashtags: #Ozempic #GLP1 #WeightLoss #Wegovy #Mounjaro #Obesity #FoodNoise #WeightLossDrugs #Health #ModernMedicine #PublicHealth #OzempicWeightLoss #Semaglutide #Tirzepatide #AndyAndRoger #PodcastDiscussion #AustralianPodcast #HealthDebate #BodyImage #Willpower Engage with us on social media: Website: http://themiddle.site/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_middle_podcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themiddlepodcastandyroger Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/The-Middle-Podcast/100089236832534/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheMiddlePC Email: the.middle.podcast.au@gmail.com Sign up to our subscriber email list: Visit our website: http://themiddle.site/ Or click: https://forms.gle/4qATmU2yiHgjZrej8

    #195 - Wonder drugs

  3. 11 July

    #194 - Trump card

    🎧 NEW PODCAST EPISODE Episode 194 – Trump card Nothing says sporting integrity quite like the leader of the free world phoning FIFA about a red card. In this episode, Andy and Roger discuss Australia’s temporary transformation into a nation of football experts whenever the World Cup rolls around. They turn to Donald Trump’s intervention after a US player was suspended, debating whether asking FIFA to overturn the decision was shameless political interference, strong leadership or simply a case of “don’t ask, don’t get”. The conversation explores FIFA’s reputation, questionable refereeing decisions and whether sport can remain fair when powerful outsiders start leaning on the rule-makers. Andy and Roger also clash over Trump’s negotiating style, the appeal of having a “thug at the table”, and whether political outcomes are shaped more by forceful personalities or the officials and strategy operating behind them. They finish with World Cup predictions, hopes of England bringing it home and the possibility of Nigel Farage facing the formidable electoral machinery of Count Binface. Hashtags: #WorldCup #DonaldTrump #FIFA #FootballPolitics #SportingIntegrity #RedCard #Socceroos #AndyAndRoger #USPolitics #PoliticalPower #FIFACorruption #FootballDebate #Soccer #ArgentinaFootball #EnglandFootball #Leadership #Negotiation #CountBinface #NigelFarage #UKPolitics #PodcastDiscussion Engage with us on social media: Website: http://themiddle.site/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_middle_podcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themiddlepodcastandyroger Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/The-Middle-Podcast/100089236832534/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheMiddlePC Email: the.middle.podcast.au@gmail.com Sign up to our subscriber email list: Visit our website: http://themiddle.site/ Or click: https://forms.gle/4qATmU2yiHgjZrej8

    #194 - Trump card

  4. 4 July

    #193 - Monoculture

    🎧 NEW PODCAST EPISODE Episode 193 – Monoculture Pauline Hanson says Australia should be “monocultural”. Predictably, everyone loses their minds—but what does that actually mean? In this episode, Andy and Roger unpack the difference between multiculturalism and a shared Australian identity, asking whether those ideas are really in conflict or whether much of the debate comes down to semantics. They explore immigration, assimilation, language, national values, and why discussions about culture so often become debates about race instead. The conversation ranges from public barbecues and iceberg lettuce sandwiches to Brexit, Japan, Singapore and the changing face of Australian suburbs. Along the way, Andy argues for the most charitable interpretation of Pauline Hanson’s comments, while Roger questions whether the rhetoric itself undermines the very integration it claims to promote. They also discuss the role of English, shared civic values, religious differences, and why immigration remains one of Australia's most emotionally charged political issues. Hashtags: #Australia #Immigration #Multiculturalism #Monoculture #PaulineHanson #OneNation #AustralianPolitics #CultureWars #Assimilation #NationalIdentity #Migration #PoliticalDiscussion #SocialCohesion #AustralianValues #PodcastDiscussion #AndyAndRoger #CurrentAffairs #Politics #Culture #AustraliaPodcast Engage with us on social media: Website: http://themiddle.site/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_middle_podcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themiddlepodcastandyroger Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/The-Middle-Podcast/100089236832534/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheMiddlePC Email: the.middle.podcast.au@gmail.com Sign up to our subscriber email list: Visit our website: http://themiddle.site/ Or click: https://forms.gle/4qATmU2yiHgjZrej8

    #193 - Monoculture

  5. 27 June

    #192 - Karl Stefanovic

    🎧 NEW PODCAST EPISODE Episode 192 – Karl Stefanovic In this episode, Andy and Roger take on the curious case of Karl Stefanovic, Tommy Robinson, and whether cancel culture is still alive and well in 2026. Andy opens by mourning the apparent end of Karl's media career before the pair unpack his departure from Channel Nine and the controversy surrounding his independent podcast. They debate whether Karl’s interview with Tommy Robinson was genuinely beyond the pale or simply another example of a long-form podcast allowing guests to tell their stories without being subjected to a courtroom-style interrogation. Along the way, they compare Karl’s approach to Joe Rogan, discuss platforming controversial figures, and explore the tension between journalistic responsibility, freedom of expression and personal accountability for political outcomes. The conversation also touches on Tommy Robinson’s reputation, the role of social media echo chambers, gender divides in online reactions, and whether audiences are capable of making up their own minds when exposed to contentious ideas. As always, Andy and Roger manage to disagree while remaining oddly civil about it. Hashtags: #KarlStefanovic #TommyRobinson #CancelCulture #JoeRogan #FreeSpeech #MediaBias #Channel9 #AustralianMedia #PodcastDiscussion #CultureWars #TommyRobinsonInterview #PoliticalCommentary #FreedomOfExpression #AndyAndRoger #TheMiddlePodcast Engage with us on social media: Website: http://themiddle.site/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_middle_podcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themiddlepodcastandyroger Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/The-Middle-Podcast/100089236832534/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheMiddlePC Email: the.middle.podcast.au@gmail.com Sign up to our subscriber email list: Visit our website: http://themiddle.site/ Or click: https://forms.gle/4qATmU2yiHgjZrej8

    #192 - Karl Stefanovic

  6. 20 June

    #191 - Cloudy reflections

    🎧 NEW PODCAST EPISODE Episode 191 – Cloudy reflections In this episode, Andy and Roger discover that nothing captures the state of American politics quite like a mysteriously green reflecting pool outside the White House. From there, things only become more normal. The conversation takes in Donald Trump’s latest foreign policy backflip, the prospect of UFC fights on the White House lawn, and whether politics would be improved by settling succession battles inside a cage. Andy and Roger debate whether MMA belongs at the people’s house, ponder hypothetical match-ups involving JD Vance, Marco Rubio, Kamala Harris and AOC, and wonder if America has finally confused entertainment with government altogether. Back home, they discuss Pauline Hanson’s appearance at the National Press Club, the growing appeal of One Nation’s media strategy, and whether Australia’s political system is really vulnerable to a populist insurgency. There is also time for an unexpected detour into Carl Sandilands’ future career prospects, the demise of McDonald’s Angus burgers, an hour-long fast food wait that tests Andy’s patience, and the economics of ordering $700 worth of nuggets through a drive-through. To finish, Andy recommends the low-budget horror film Obsession, while Roger suggests checking out the latest UFC main event and argues that watching two blokes punch each other for ten minutes is still preferable to reading a page-and-a-half diplomatic agreement. Hashtags: #TrumpPolitics #UFC #WhiteHouse #PaulineHanson #OneNation #AustralianPolitics #DonaldTrump #JDVance #MarcoRubio #MMA #McDonalds #FastFoodFails #Populism #CultureWars #AndyAndRoger #PoliticalCommentary #PodcastDiscussion #USPolitics #AustralianMedia #HorrorMovies Engage with us on social media: Website: http://themiddle.site/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_middle_podcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themiddlepodcastandyroger Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/The-Middle-Podcast/100089236832534/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheMiddlePC Email: the.middle.podcast.au@gmail.com Sign up to our subscriber email list: Visit our website: http://themiddle.site/ Or click: https://forms.gle/4qATmU2yiHgjZrej8

    #191 - Cloudy reflections

  7. 13 June

    #190 - One Nation

    🎧 NEW PODCAST EPISODE Episode 190 – One Nation In this episode, Andy and Roger begin with an unexpected observation about cosmetic surgery, lip filler, hair transplants, and the growing pressure to optimise appearance. What starts as a discussion about cosmetic enhancements quickly turns into a broader conversation about identity, signalling, status, and how different groups present themselves in modern society. The discussion then shifts into politics, with a deep dive into the remarkable rise of Pauline Hanson and One Nation in Australian polling. Andy and Roger explore why populist movements are gaining traction, whether Pauline Hanson is Australia’s version of Donald Trump, and how voters are responding to growing frustration with the major parties. They debate questions of race, immigration, multiculturalism, Islam, political correctness, and whether Hanson’s appeal comes from speaking uncomfortable truths or from exploiting division. Along the way, they discuss Trump’s enduring influence on global politics, the decline of traditional conservative parties, the role of social media and meme culture in modern political movements, and whether political figures should be judged by their intentions, their actions, or the consequences of both. As usual, the conversation wanders through history, culture, identity and plenty of uncomfortable territory before arriving somewhere in the middle. Hashtags: #PaulineHanson #OneNation #AustralianPolitics #Populism #DonaldTrump #PoliticalCommentary #CultureWars #ImmigrationDebate #MulticulturalAustralia #IdentityPolitics #AntiWoke #PoliticalTrends #AustralianCulture #AndyAndRoger #TheMiddlePodcast #CurrentAffairs #PoliticalDiscussion #MediaCulture #SocialCommentary #PodcastAustralia Engage with us on social media: Website: http://themiddle.site/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_middle_podcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themiddlepodcastandyroger Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/The-Middle-Podcast/100089236832534/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheMiddlePC Email: the.middle.podcast.au@gmail.com Sign up to our subscriber email list: Visit our website: http://themiddle.site/ Or click: https://forms.gle/4qATmU2yiHgjZrej8

    #190 - One Nation

  8. 6 June

    #189 - Make your bed

    🎧 NEW PODCAST EPISODE Episode 189 – Make your bed Making the bed is apparently the first step towards success, which may explain quite a lot. Andy and Roger compare their tolerance for household discipline, from unmade beds and open drawers to the genuinely hazardous business of leaving the dishwasher door down. They also consider separate doonas, decorative cushions and whether laziness should simply be accepted as a basic feature of human nature. The conversation moves to ironing, office clothes and the many months of life potentially lost to pressing shirts, before Andy asks Roger to update his assessment of the conflict in Iran. Roger explains why his hopes for a successful outcome have fallen, as they discuss Iran’s nuclear program, regional proxies, the Trump–Netanyahu relationship and the increasingly elastic boundaries of presidential immunity. Hashtags: #MakeYourBed #HouseholdHabits #ModernLife #Ironing #OfficeCulture #CorporateFashion #Iran #IranConflict #MiddleEastPolitics #DonaldTrump #BenjaminNetanyahu #Geopolitics #PresidentialImmunity #AustralianPodcast #AndyAndRoger #TheMiddlePodcast #PoliticalCommentary #CultureAndPolitics Engage with us on social media: Website: http://themiddle.site/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_middle_podcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themiddlepodcastandyroger Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/The-Middle-Podcast/100089236832534/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheMiddlePC Email: the.middle.podcast.au@gmail.com Sign up to our subscriber email list: Visit our website: http://themiddle.site/ Or click: https://forms.gle/4qATmU2yiHgjZrej8

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  • Creator
    Andy and Roger
  • Years Active
    2022 - 2026
  • Episodes
    203
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Andy and Roger
  • Show Website
    The Middle