The Tech Savvy Recruiter

Belinda Kerr and Andrew Rodger

The Tech Savvy Recruiter, the podcast for recruitment and staffing agency owners keen to explore the tech innovations reshaping our industry. Hosted by Andrew Roger from RecMate and Belinda Kerr from Recruitment Garage. Together they bring you a stellar lineup of tech experts ready to help you understand, and more importantly, benefit from the increasing array of tech available to you today.

  1. 9 hrs ago

    Episode 45 - Sean Henry Returns: Two Years of AI Lessons Every Recruiter Needs to Hear

    What's changed in AI recruitment since 2024? Pretty much everything, and Sean Henry is back to break it all down. In this episode, Belinda and Andrew sit down with Sean Henry, co-founder of Floats.ai, for a proper update since his first appearance back in episode 15. Sean started out as a tech recruiter frustrated by boring PDFs, clunky email threads and generic outreach, and turned that frustration into an AI platform built specifically to help recruiters win more business. Two years on, Sean's seen the hype cycles come and go, watched agencies burn cash building the wrong systems, and figured out what actually moves the needle when it comes to AI and new business. You'll hear about: Why "vibe coding" is changing who can build tech, but not without new risks The real difference between build vs buy, and how to know which one you need Why candidate matching finally works now, after years of being overhyped The rise of AI agents like Sola, and what "human on the loop" really means Why authenticity still wins, and the one thing AI still can't fake How presentation and follow up can quietly be costing you clients Sean's top 3 things every agency should focus on to stay competitive right now Lots of practical takeaways in this one, especially if you've been feeling overwhelmed by every new AI tool promising to save you hours a week. Follow Shaun’s work  linkedin.com/in/shaun-henry  floats.ai Connect with Belinda and Andrew LinkedIn Belinda Kerr  linkedin.com/in/belindakerr   Recruitment Garage https://recruitmentgarage.com/   LinkedIn Andrew Rodger linkedin.com/in/andrewrodger   recMate  https://www.recmate.com.au/

    52 min
  2. 16 June

    Episode 44 - Relationship Architects & AI Agents: Chris Russell on the Future of Recruitment Tech

    What does the future of recruitment actually look like when AI is doing the screening, the admin, the interviews - and even applying for jobs on your behalf? In this episode, Belinda and Andrew sit down with Chris Russell - founder of RecTech Media and the original "Mad Scientist of Online Recruiting" - to cut through the noise and get real about what AI is doing to the recruitment industry right now. With 700+ episodes on the RecTech podcast and 25+ years watching the industry evolve, Chris brings an interesting perspective on where things are heading. You'll hear about: Why AI is shrinking recruitment teams  The "AI job wars" - candidates auto-applying to hundreds of roles, employers drowning in 2,000+ applications per opening Why rejection emails are still broken after 30 years - and how AI can finally fix it The rise of AI interview tools and what they mean for candidate experience What happens when job seeker AI agents start talking directly to employer AI agents Why the future recruiter might look less like a headhunter and more like a career concierge How to keep up when the tech is changing faster than you can track it Lots of nuggets in this episode for you. Questions A lot of the recruitment founders or recruitment companies at the moment are worried, for good reason, that a lot of their business will move in-house, being AI and tech led. I'd love to know what you're seeing there and what your thoughts are around that. 2:25-2:36 Is this different to the internet when it got switched on? Is this the same thing or should we maybe be a little bit worried because of the efficiencies of technology enabling internal teams to do a little bit more, a little bit more sophisticated? Whereas the gap is often filled by that external recruiter.  3:29-4:01 When it comes to doing that human interaction, that back and forth, as much as the candidate, as for the hiring manager, have we cracked it or has the technology cracked that to perfection? Where are we heading with that interview process? Will it be here in five years time? 5:08-5:22 You talk about the AI war happening between candidates and employers right now. Would you mind sharing a little bit more about your thoughts there? 9:31-9:39 What do you see for those dominant job board providers happening in the next five years? What are the changes that you forecast there? 12:35-13:41 LinkedIn recruiter are putting their rates up again. I do not understand how, with everything else that recruiters have at their fingertips now to find people, what am I missing? How is the LinkedIn recruiter justifying its price point? 16:40-16:55 Given that candidates now are using AI to write their CVs and prep, etc. How does that change then what a good recruiter actually does for their clients? So how do they navigate this change and come out on top?  19:25-19:49  I love your thoughts on this statement that recruitment's always been about relationships, but does the AI race make that more important or does it eventually just erode that advantage as well? 21:10-21:20 How can recruiters and staffing professionals keep that eye on the ball? What's the best strategy there for them? 28:06- 28:11 If you have one piece of advice to a recruitment founder or a TA person who’s watching this and a feeling behind. What’s the one thing that they could do this week to start thinking. 30:11-30:33 Follow Chris's work  rectechmedia.com  linkedin.com/in/cmrussell  Connect with Belinda and Andrew LinkedIn Belinda Kerr  linkedin.com/in/belindakerr   Recruitment Garage https://recruitmentgarage.com/   LinkedIn Andrew Rodger linkedin.com/in/andrewrodger   recMate  https://www.recmate.com.au/

    34 min
  3. 8 June

    Episode 43 - 44 Years of Recruitment Wisdom: What AI Changes (and What It Doesn't) with Bill Boorman

    What does a recruiter who started at 16 -- with 44 years in the industry -- think about AI, agentic tech, and the future of talent acquisition? A lot, as it turns out. This week, Belinda and Andrew sit down with Bill Boorman, senior analyst and writer focusing on job boards, tech, and general recruitment for the AIM Group, and board member of VONQ. Bill is one of the industry's most recognised recruitment voices on tech and AI, founder of the #tru unconference series, which has run events across 65 countries and has advised many rec tech firms including Talent Tech Labs and Recruitment Smart. These days, Bill spends his time helping the industry figure out what AI and technology actually mean in practice, not just in theory, with a goal of helping businesses and leaders make sense of what's next in the fast-moving world of work. In this episode, they cover: Why AI is removing friction from hiring -- and what that means for your value as a recruiterThe "old school principles, new school delivery" framework that still drives great outcomesWhy handmade recruitment is becoming a luxury -- and why that's actually good newsThe uncomfortable truth: in 15 years, the world is running out of workersHow small agency owners have a real edge in the age of AI experimentationWhat your "moat" is -- and how to find and protect it before the market shifts under you Whether you're running a boutique agency or scaling a staffing firm, this episode will challenge how you think about your business, your pricing, and your future. Hit play. This one's worth every minute. Questions: You've seen every wave of rec tech come and go. Where do you reckon today's AI genuinely changes the game for agency founders and where is it still mostly hype? 2:00-2:12You've been advising recruitment companies for many years. With what you have seen, what's maybe one or two of the key things that agency owners make in error when they're evaluating? 11:36-11:56Given that we have all these amazing new tools at our fingertips, what edge do you think that will give the smaller founders or the smaller agencies? 20:05-20:14Thinking around the role of AI with what we're doing today in terms of business development. How are you seeing that play out with companies and the role that AI is playing to, maybe break into new markets that I wanna head into or build an existing market that I'm currently playing within? 34:17-34:30You've been really deep in that whole tech world and investment world, and I'd love to know some of the really interesting things that you're seeing. Different like, interesting companies, different players, different use cases. Just what, the stuff that's kinda making you go. 37:40-37:55The leverage that you could or have been able to maintain and leverage with AI 1) let's call it, helped you, you do a lot of things faster, quicker, you could do a little bit more with your time, and where we're up to now is that whole new world, yet again with Agentic AI which does stuff on its, by itself without being told. We'd be thinking differently now that that opportunity's there. What should we be thinking as recruitment leaders? 40:20-40:57 Connect with Bill linkedin.com/in/billboorman Connect with Belinda and Andrew LinkedIn Belinda Kerr linkedin.com/in/belindakerr Recruitment Garage https://recruitmentgarage.com/ LinkedIn Andrew Rodger linkedin.com/in/andrewrodger recMate https://www.recmate.com.au/

    54 min
  4. 8 May

    Episode 42 - Andrew & BK's Hot takes on AI in Recruitment in May 2026

    Hosts Andrew Rodger and Belinda Kerr have a candid mid-year roundtable, and there's a lot to unpack. From agentic AI quietly transforming recruitment workflows, to the data integrity trap most agencies are sleepwalking into, this is your pulse check on where AI is actually at in the recruitment industry right now.  🚀 Tune in for: Why firms using AI are seeing up to 4.5x more revenue growth and what separates them from the rest How agentic AI is handling outreach, scheduling, and reference checks autonomously The data quality problem that's silently killing AI results in your ATS Why the phone call is making a comeback and what that means for your BD strategy 👉 Perfect for: recruitment founders, agency owners, and staffing leaders who want a straight-talking take on where AI is headed.  AI adoption rates and the shift from basic gen AI to agentic workflows (02:35) AI-first platforms vs legacy SaaS and what to look for before you renew your contract (05:13) How AI is transforming day-to-day recruitment workflows (07:56-18:45) Data integrity: why rubbish in still means rubbish out, even with AI (18:45) Vibe coding, hiring signal finders, and building your own tools on a budget (21:00) The personal touch comeback: email, phone calls, and building trust in a noisy market (34:00) What's coming in the next 3-6 months and how to prepare (29:00-42:25) Connect with Belinda and Andrew: LinkedIn Belinda Kerr  linkedin.com/in/belindakerr   Recruitment Garage https://recruitmentgarage.com/   LinkedIn Andrew Rodger linkedin.com/in/andrewrodger   recMate  https://www.recmate.com.au/

    41 min
  5. 17 Apr

    Episode 41 - Smart pipeline building and BD with AI automation

    Most recruitment founders are still doing business development like it’s 2020 and it’s quietly killing their response rates. In this episode of The Tech Savvy Recruiter, we sit down with Niklas Huetzen, Founder of Automindz Solutions, to unpack how AI is fundamentally reshaping recruitment business development. Niklas breaks down how signal-driven strategies powered by AI is helping recruiters identify high-intent opportunities before competitors even see them. From job listings and leadership changes to fundraising signals and automation workflows, you’ll learn how top-performing agencies are moving away from “spray and pray” outreach and building smarter and more targeted systems. We also dive into the practical side of AI adoption, including tools, automation stacks, data quality, and how recruitment founders can stay competitive without getting lost in the noise of new tech. If you want to future-proof your recruitment BD strategy, this episode will shift how you think about pipeline generation entirely. Questions:  Many recruitment founders are still doing BD like it’s 2020. What specifically has changed that they haven’t caught up with yet? 2:15-2:22 If I had to pick three for the audience of the biggest bang for your buck for return on investment. So for me to build something to monitor those signals, what three would you pick to start with? 6:04-6:13 What's the one belief that you think that they have that's sort of limiting them in their BD growth. Now what's getting in the way of more uptake of these tools that should be beneficial? 22:15-22:24  You’ve probably seen people looking at too many things and they’re overcomplicating their setup. What are the key things you could give guidance for founders when they’re thinking about setting a system like this up? What shouldn't they do basically to be overcomplicating it. 27:11-27:23 What about when it comes to structuring data? Is there anything worth talking about there? 30:18-30:23 Where do you think we’re heading from here? 40:49-40:51 Connect with Nik https://www.automindz-solutions.com/  Download The 2026 AI in Recruitment Playbook - https://automindz-solutions.com/ai-recruitment-playbook  Connect with Belinda and Andrew: LinkedIn Belinda Kerr  linkedin.com/in/belindakerr   Recruitment Garage https://recruitmentgarage.com/   LinkedIn Andrew Rodger linkedin.com/in/andrewrodger   recMate  https://www.recmate.com.au/

    48 min
  6. 17 Feb

    Episode 39 - Navigating Cyber Threats: Practical Cybersecurity & Resilience for SMBs

    Small businesses are under attack, and cyber threats are more real than ever. In this episode, Luke Irwin, fractional Chief Information Security Officer at Aegis Cybersecurity, breaks down the world of cybercrime - from email-based attacks and ransomware to social engineering and emerging AI risks. He shares practical steps for SMBs to boost cybersecurity, including frameworks like SMB1001, cybersecurity insurance, employee training, password management, and multi-factor authentication. Learn how to build cyber resilience, protect your business, and recover quickly when attacks happen. Whether you’re a founder, entrepreneur, or small business owner, this episode gives you actionable insights to stay ahead in the rapidly evolving digital landscape. Questions: Get an overview of the landscape. What's happening? What should we be thinking about? 2:53-2:56   In Australia, the SMB 1009 and in The States, North America. Does that help with your insurance premiums? 14:5-14:58 With the SMB businesses, what are some of the typical breaches that you see? 16:49-16:57 Last time we spoke you gave a really good agenda of 60% or 70% of what people could do to stay safe. Would you mind running through that? 27:26-27:37 What percentage of Xero users do you reckon are actually backing up? 35:54-35:57 If you're thinking about backing it up, are there any sort of preferred smarter methods? 36:32-36:37 If you walked into a small to medium agency recruitment agency today, what would you say are the top three things you can do to bridge that gap? 44:57-45:06 Connect with Luke linkedin.com/in/luke-irwin E: lirwin@aegiscyber.com.au W: https://aegiscyber.com.au Connect with Belinda and Andrew: LinkedIn Belinda Kerr  linkedin.com/in/belindakerr   Recruitment Garage https://recruitmentgarage.com/   LinkedIn Andrew Rodger linkedin.com/in/andrewrodger   recMate  https://www.recmate.com.au/ Check out CyberWardens at https://train.cyberwardens.com.au

    54 min
  7. 3 Feb

    Episode 38 - AI, Automation, and the Truth About What Recruiters Should Be Using

    AI is everywhere in recruitment, but are agencies actually using it well? In this episode of The Tech Savvy Recruiter, Belinda and Andrew sit down with Ez Khan, Founder of Hume Scope to explore why many founders feel behind, and how early, simple adoption can create a serious competitive advantage. From automating admin and improving productivity to enhancing candidate communication and building trust with clients, this conversation focuses on practical, real-world applications. The trio also discuss the difference between automation and AI, why prompt engineering matters more than most recruiters realise, and what the future holds for agency owners committed to staying relevant. Questions: What’s the biggest misconception small agency founders have about AI and recruitment tech right now? 1:43-1:50 What are founders sharing with you as their biggest concerns around where we are headed with AI? And how can people like us support them? 3:28-3:45 What are we seeing now as practical use cases for AI? 7:41-7:47 What differences are you seeing between the founders that are doing well and those who are struggling? 28:59-29:11 What skills as a recruiter do I need to keep learning and honing? 35:54-36:14 If you were running a 2 or 3 person agency right now - what tools would be non negotiables in your stack? 41:52-42:03 Notes: https://fal.ai/ Download the Prompt Engineering file here - chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://arxiv.org/pdf/2402.07927 Connect with Belinda and Andrew: LinkedIn Belinda Kerr linkedin.com/in/belindakerr Recruitment Garage https://recruitmentgarage.com/ LinkedIn Andrew Rodger linkedin.com/in/andrewrodger recMate https://www.recmate.com.au/

    51 min

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The Tech Savvy Recruiter, the podcast for recruitment and staffing agency owners keen to explore the tech innovations reshaping our industry. Hosted by Andrew Roger from RecMate and Belinda Kerr from Recruitment Garage. Together they bring you a stellar lineup of tech experts ready to help you understand, and more importantly, benefit from the increasing array of tech available to you today.

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