Thinking Deeply about Primary Education

Kieran Mackle

Welcome to Thinking Deeply about Primary Education, the podcast that gives you a peek inside the minds of some truly inspirational primary teachers. Whether you're new to the profession or a school leader with tons of experience this podcast is a must listen. For references, links and extended cut video episodes head over to www.thinkingdeeply.info

  1. Thinking Deeply abour AI for Schools: AI Music and The Death of Creativity?

    1 DAY AGO

    Thinking Deeply abour AI for Schools: AI Music and The Death of Creativity?

    TDaPE North West Conference ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tickets:⁠ - 28th March, St Helens ⁠⁠⁠ https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-thinking-deeply-about-primary-education-conference-tickets-1661953891829?aff=oddtdtcreator For show notes, links, and a summary episode, sign up for the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Hey! What You Reading For ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠newsletter. Mondays at 7am BST - https://tdape.beehiiv.com/subscribe ⁠⁠⁠⁠AI For Teachers⁠⁠⁠⁠ newsletter For maths curriculum questions contact us ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or via support@alta-education.com Learn more about ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Story of Maths⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - www.alta-education.com/tsom-overview Episode 274: In the third instalment of Thinking Deeply about AI for Schools, James Radburn and Neil Almond step into one of the most provocative corners of the AI debate: music. At the centre of the episode is a large, multi-study experiment on AI-generated songs that found something many people instinctively resist... James and Neil use that evidence as a springboard to explore what “creativity” even means in an age of generative tools, and what schools should be thinking about when students can produce polished outputs quickly. As ever, you won't get all the answers but you'll certainly have the opportunity to think deeply about the use of AI in schools...

    38 min
  2. Avoiding Snake Oil: Using the Hype Curve to Make Better Tech Decisions with Dominic Bristow

    5 DAYS AGO

    Avoiding Snake Oil: Using the Hype Curve to Make Better Tech Decisions with Dominic Bristow

    Teachers Talk Connect Preview ⁠⁠HERE⁠⁠ - 14th March, Manchester TDaPE North West Conference ⁠⁠⁠⁠Tickets:⁠ - 28th March, St Helens ⁠⁠ https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-thinking-deeply-about-primary-education-conference-tickets-1661953891829?aff=oddtdtcreator For show notes, links, and a summary episode, sign up for the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Hey! What You Reading For ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠newsletter. Mondays at 7am BST - https://tdape.beehiiv.com/subscribe ⁠⁠⁠AI For Teachers⁠⁠⁠ newsletter For maths curriculum questions contact us ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or via support@alta-education.com Learn more about ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Story of Maths⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - www.alta-education.com/tsom-overview Episode 273: This week on Thinking Deeply About Primary Education, I’m joined by Dominic Bristow (Stylus) to explore the Gartner Hype Curve and what it can teach schools about decision-making in the age of AI. We unpack why schools so often swing between inflated expectations and total disillusionment, why “AI” isn’t one thing but a stack of overlapping hype curves, and what that means for leaders trying to spend money and staff time wisely. Dominic shares why credentials and co-creation with educators matter, why “show your workings” should be a red-line expectation for any provider, and how to spot the difference between a serious product and a thin “wrapper” around a chatbot. If you’re trying to avoid confusing excitement with impact, this one will give you a practical lens, and a better set of questions, before you commit.

    46 min
  3. That's the Good News: Phones, Inclusion Bases, and a Quiet Crisis in Early Language

    14 FEB

    That's the Good News: Phones, Inclusion Bases, and a Quiet Crisis in Early Language

    Teachers Talk Connect Preview ⁠HERE⁠ - 14th March, Manchester TDaPE North West Conference ⁠⁠⁠Tickets:⁠ - 28th March, St Helens ⁠ https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-thinking-deeply-about-primary-education-conference-tickets-1661953891829?aff=oddtdtcreator For show notes, links, and a summary episode, sign up for the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Hey! What You Reading For ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠newsletter. Mondays at 7am BST - https://tdape.beehiiv.com/subscribe ⁠⁠AI For Teachers⁠⁠ newsletter For maths curriculum questions contact us ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or via support@alta-education.com Learn more about ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Story of Maths⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - www.alta-education.com/tsom-overview Episode 272: This week on Thinking Deeply about Primary Education, Kieran and Elliot return with February’s education stories worth your attention, plus the ones slipping under the radar. They unpack what “phone bans” are really trying to solve, dig into the government’s push for secondary-school “inclusion bases”, and flag a speech-and-language pilot that suggests far more need is being missed than many systems are set up to handle. They also share the best blog and Substack reads of the month, from mini whiteboards done properly to reading fluency, and finish with a quick TDaPE recap.

    34 min
  4. Teacher Voice, Credibility, and the Confidence Trap with Tom Rogers

    11 FEB

    Teacher Voice, Credibility, and the Confidence Trap with Tom Rogers

    Teachers Talk Connect Preview HERE - 14th March, Manchester TDaPE North West Conference ⁠⁠Tickets:⁠ - 28th March, St Helens https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-thinking-deeply-about-primary-education-conference-tickets-1661953891829?aff=oddtdtcreator For show notes, links, and a summary episode, sign up for the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Hey! What You Reading For ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠newsletter. Mondays at 7am BST - https://tdape.beehiiv.com/subscribe ⁠AI For Teachers⁠ newsletter For maths curriculum questions contact us ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or via support@alta-education.com Learn more about ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Story of Maths⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - www.alta-education.com/tsom-overview Episode 271: This week is a crossover episode with Tom Rogers, host of Teachers Talk Radio, and it’s one that sits right in the tension at the heart of professional development. We talk about teacher voice, and whether it’s genuinely missing in the places that shape what “good teaching” is supposed to look like. If you’ve ever thought, I’ve got something worth sharing, but I’m not sure I’m the sort of person who gets asked, this one is for you.

    58 min
  5. Can an AI Tutor Reduce Maths Anxiety? Inside Third Space Learning’s “Skye”

    7 FEB

    Can an AI Tutor Reduce Maths Anxiety? Inside Third Space Learning’s “Skye”

    For show notes, links, and a summary episode, sign up for the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Hey! What You Reading For ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠newsletter. Mondays at 7am BST - https://tdape.beehiiv.com/subscribe TDaPE North West Conference Tickets: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-thinking-deeply-about-primary-education-conference-tickets-1661953891829?aff=oddtdtcreator AI For Teachers newsletter For maths curriculum questions contact us ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or via support@alta-education.com Learn more about ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Story of Maths⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - www.alta-education.com/tsom-overview Episode 270: What happens when high-impact maths tutoring meets agentic AI? In this episode of Thinking Deeply About Primary Education, Kieran is joined by Candida Crawford (Third Space Learning) to explore Skye, a “Third Space” AI maths tutor built to deliver one-to-one style spoken tutoring at scale. Candida explains: The problem Skye is designed to tackle. Why Third Space moved from human-delivered tutoring to AI now and what schools actually get. What “AI-powered” really means in this context. And much more... If you’re a primary leader, maths lead, or classroom teacher trying to separate real learning impact from “Wizard of Oz” AI, this is an episode designed for your questions. Key topics: AI tutoring • maths misconceptions • verbal reasoning • scaffolding • ZPD • teacher monitoring • impact evidence • EdTech evaluation

    1 hr
  6. Film, Review, Refine: A Practical Guide to Teacher Self-Coaching With Lesson Video

    31 JAN

    Film, Review, Refine: A Practical Guide to Teacher Self-Coaching With Lesson Video

    For show notes, links, and a summary episode, sign up for the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Hey! What You Reading For ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠newsletter. Mondays at 7am BST - https://tdape.beehiiv.com/subscribe For maths curriculum questions contact us ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or via support@alta-education.com Learn more about ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Story of Maths⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - www.alta-education.com/tsom-overview Episode 268: What if your most powerful coaching tool is already in your pocket? In this episode of Thinking Deeply About Primary Education, Kieran Mackle is joined by Jake Cowling and Will McLoughlin to explore self-coaching: recording your own lessons to improve classroom practice with precision—without spiralling into self-criticism or turning professional development into performance management. You’ll hear how lesson video helps you spot the tiny things that quietly shape learning: the timing of an instruction, the clarity of an explanation, classroom distractions you’ve stopped noticing, and the exact moment attention drifts. Will shares three reasons video is such a high-leverage habit (spot imperfections, understand student experience, and build shareable models for colleagues), while Jake breaks down how to keep reflection rigorous, not vibes-based—by triaging the highest-impact changes first. They also get practical: using shared frameworks (like the Great Teaching Toolkit, StepLab, WalkThrus, Rosenshine's Principles of Instruction, and Teach Like a Champion) to anchor feedback, how to share video safely, and how to keep this work low-stakes, peer-led, and supportive. If you care about getting “a little bit better every day,” this episode gives you a clear route to start tomorrow—camera, clarity, and all. Key topics: self-coaching, video reflection, instructional coaching, direct instruction, classroom routines, mini-whiteboards, choral response, deliberate practice, evidence-informed teaching, safeguarding, professional development culture.

    46 min
  7. School Done Smarter: The Headteacher Blueprint for Sustainable Change

    28 JAN

    School Done Smarter: The Headteacher Blueprint for Sustainable Change

    This episode is brought to you in association with Learning by Questions. Find the report here: https://primary.lbq.org/hub/headteacher-guide-school-improvement-top-attainment Episode 267: This week on Thinking Deeply About Primary Education, I’m joined by Andy Done, headteacher of Masefield Primary, to talk through his new report, School Done Smarter: A Blueprint for Headteachers. We start with something that’ll probably feel familiar: that instinct to jump straight into “fixing” things. Andy makes the case for slowing down first and properly diagnosing what’s going on — listening to pupils, staff and families, and trying to get to the root cause rather than treating the symptoms. He shares a moment from his first week that stopped him in his tracks. From there, we get into culture and consistency: why culture beats strategy, why alignment matters more than compliance, and what it looks like in practice when a staff team is genuinely moving in the same direction. Andy talks about things like the teaching and learning handbook, curriculum structures that reduce workload and decision fatigue, retrieval routines (including “Flashback Fridays”), and using technology in a pedagogy-first way — including how they’ve used Learning by Questions to support assessment and feedback without adding to the burden. We also talk about how Masefield tries to keep the bigger picture joined up: outcomes, staff wellbeing and pupil experience aren’t separate projects. Thrive, structured play, oracy and community-building all sit alongside the academic work, and the point is that they reinforce each other. If you’re leading in school (or thinking about it), there’s a lot here that’s practical — the kind of ideas you can pinch and adapt straight away.

    40 min

Ratings & Reviews

4.3
out of 5
12 Ratings

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Welcome to Thinking Deeply about Primary Education, the podcast that gives you a peek inside the minds of some truly inspirational primary teachers. Whether you're new to the profession or a school leader with tons of experience this podcast is a must listen. For references, links and extended cut video episodes head over to www.thinkingdeeply.info

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