128 episodes

Very Bad Therapy is a closer look at what goes wrong in the counseling room - and how it could go better - as told by the clients who survived.

Very Bad Therapy Ben Fineman and Caroline Wiita

    • Health & Fitness
    • 4.5 • 25 Ratings

Very Bad Therapy is a closer look at what goes wrong in the counseling room - and how it could go better - as told by the clients who survived.

    124. VBT Study Hall: Theoretical Orientations

    124. VBT Study Hall: Theoretical Orientations

    There are over 600 types of psychotherapy. What are they, where did they come from, and what makes them important? We dive deep (too deep, probably) into a $900 textbook in an attempt to make sense of the spectacularly confusing topic of theoretical orientations. This is an integrative episode – we integrate a lot of information with even more information.
     
    Thank you for listening. To support the show and receive access to regular bonus episodes, check out the Very Bad Therapy Patreon community. Today’s episode is sponsored by Sentio Counseling Center – high-quality, low-fee online therapy in California with immediate availability for new clients.
     
    Very Bad Therapy: Website / Facebook / Bookshelf / Tell Us Your Story
     
    Show Notes:
    APA Handbook of Clinical Psychology Bruce Wampold on What Actually Makes Us Good Therapists The evidence for evidence-based therapy is not as clear as we thought Evaluating the Evidential Value of Empirically Supported Psychological Treatments (ESTs): A Meta-Scientific Review Obtaining Consensus in Psychotherapy: What Holds Us Back? Becoming an Effective Psychotherapist: Adopting a Theory of Psychotherapy That’s Right for You and Your Client Types of Therapy

    • 1 hr 31 min
    Bonus: Clinical Licensing Exams Don't Work (with Dr. Ben Caldwell)

    Bonus: Clinical Licensing Exams Don't Work (with Dr. Ben Caldwell)

    In the United States, mental health professionals must pass a clinical exam to become licensed in their field. These exams appear to do nothing to make psychotherapy more effective or safe. They are, however, very efficient at furthering structural racism. Dr. Ben Caldwell joins us to make a very compelling, research-based argument for why these clinical exams should be abolished immediately.
     
    Thank you for listening. To support the show and receive access to regular bonus episodes, check out the Very Bad Therapy Patreon community. Today’s episode is sponsored by Sentio Counseling Center – high-quality, low-fee online therapy in California with immediate availability for new clients.
     
    Very Bad Therapy: Website / Facebook / Bookshelf / Tell Us Your Story
     
    Show Notes:
    Clinical Licensing Exams in Mental Health Care (White Paper) Report: Clinical exams in mental health licensing are structural racism 2022 ASWB Exam Pass Rate Analysis org – ASWB: End Discriminatory Social Work Licensing Exams California BBS discussion of the ASWB report Racial Bias and ASWB Exams: A Failure of Data Equity Ben Caldwell: Email / Ben Caldwell Labs / Psychotherapy Notes

    • 58 min
    123. Catching Feelings (with Dr. Ben Caldwell)

    123. Catching Feelings (with Dr. Ben Caldwell)

    It’s not unusual for clients to develop feelings for their therapist. It’s also not unusual for therapists to develop feelings for their clients. So why is it such a bad idea for a therapist to share (or act) on those feelings? Today’s guest Kate shares a story that illustrates exactly why, and Dr. Ben Caldwell rejoins us to talk about what should happen when clients and therapists develop feelings for one another.
     
    Thank you for listening. To support the show and receive access to regular bonus episodes, check out the Very Bad Therapy Patreon community. Today’s episode is sponsored by The Organized Therapist – Social Media for Therapists and Sentio Counseling Center – high-quality, low-fee online therapy in California with immediate availability for new clients.
     
    Introduction: 0:00 – 8:40
    Part One: 8:40 – 44:35
    Part Two: 44:35 – 1:30:32
     
    Very Bad Therapy: Website / Facebook / Bookshelf / Tell Us Your Story
     
    Show Notes:
    Donate to NAMI: National Alliance on Mental Illness Ben Caldwell on Authory The Patient on Hulu Mentour Pilot (YouTube) Does sorry work? The impact of apology laws on medical malpractice “Sorry” Is Never Enough: How State Apology Laws Fail to Reduce Medical Malpractice Liability Risk

    • 1 hr 30 min
    122. Patreon Selects: Degrees of Confusion (Part II)

    122. Patreon Selects: Degrees of Confusion (Part II)

    Justin Norris rejoins us to conclude our conversation about the perplexing maze that is the application process for grad school. We use the California State University (CSU) system as a case study to illustrate why program requirements aren’t always what they seem, and Carrie discusses which therapy programs do a great job of defining and providing quality to their students. Plus, Subaru gets lots of free advertising.
     
    Thank you for listening. To support the show and receive access to regular bonus episodes, check out the Very Bad Therapy Patreon community. Today’s episode is sponsored by Sentio Counseling Center – high-quality, low-fee online therapy in California with immediate availability for new clients.
     
    Introduction: 0:00 – 10:35
    Part One: 10:35 – 1:10:11
    Part Two: 1:10:11 – 1:13:21
     
    Very Bad Therapy: Website / Facebook / Bookshelf / Tell Us Your Story
     
    Show Notes:
    The Patient on Hulu Sentio Counseling Center: Affordable Online Therapy for Californians MFT California Creating Impact: The four pillars of private psychology practice

    • 1 hr 13 min
    121. Patreon Selects: Degrees of Confusion (Part I)

    121. Patreon Selects: Degrees of Confusion (Part I)

    Have you ever wondered why the process of applying to grad school is so unclear at times? In part one of two, we are joined by Justin Norris, an expert in systems of higher education, to talk about the surprisingly interesting topics of accreditation, for-profit vs. non-profit designations, and public vs. private universities. If you wanted to become a therapist but ended up in a sales funnel, this episode is for you.
     
    Thank you for listening. To support the show and receive access to regular bonus episodes, check out the Very Bad Therapy Patreon community. Today’s episode is sponsored by Sentio Counseling Center – high-quality, low-fee online therapy in California with immediate availability for new clients.
     
    Introduction: 0:00 – 19:21
    Part One: 19:21 – 1:27:53
    Part Two: 1:27:53 – 1:31:45
     
    Very Bad Therapy: Website / Facebook / Bookshelf / Tell Us Your Story
     
    Show Notes:
    The Patient on Hulu Sentio Counseling Center: Affordable Online Therapy for Californians Sentio University MFT California Living with Harm OCD The Secret History of Thoughts (Invisibilia)

    • 1 hr 31 min
    120. Hard Conversations

    120. Hard Conversations

    What happens when a therapist doesn’t want to work with a client? What should happen? Tom shares his experience with a therapist who chose avoidance over honesty, and we discuss ten types of hard conversations that frequently give therapists anxiety. Plus, is Steve Carrell a good enough TV therapist to avoid getting murdered?
     
    Thank you for listening. To support the show and receive access to regular bonus episodes, check out the Very Bad Therapy Patreon community. Today’s episode is sponsored by The Organized Therapist – Social Media for Therapists.
     
    Introduction: 0:00 – 11:00
    Part One: 11:00 – 37:54
    Part Two: 37:54 – 1:37:40
     
    Very Bad Therapy: Website / Facebook / Bookshelf / Tell Us Your Story
     
    Show Notes:
    The Patient on Hulu Sentio Counseling Center: Affordable Online Therapy for Californians Why Therapy Is Broken Social Workers’ Ethical Responsibilities to Clients

    • 1 hr 37 min

Customer Reviews

4.5 out of 5
25 Ratings

25 Ratings

collyburl ,

Really good listening

I’ve just discovered this podcast and am catching up on previous episodes. Its been fascinating hearing stories of ‘therapy gone wrong’ and the follow up and thoughts of the presenters as therapists. As someone who has experienced some questionable therapy, its been reassuring and beneficial to my understanding of unethical practices and plain poor treatment of people.
Sometimes the banter/disagreements between the presenters can be a bit jarring.

dave_edwards_is_trash ,

A soothing balm for those who have had bad therapy experiences

I saw a couple of very unhelpful therapists during a difficult time in my life, and they left me worse off than I was when I started with them. Hearing about other people’s bad therapy experiences — along with responses from Caroline/Ben and the experts they invite in — has been incredibly validating and healing for me. Keep up the excellent work guys :)

Nthnaus ,

Great podcast

Well produced, great insights

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