35 episodes

Lifelong friends, Will (Mental Health Social Worker, Australia) and Luke (Psychotherapist, UK), discuss influential books on personal growth, across fields of Psychology, Psychotherapy, Philosophy, Self-help and more.

We've been friends for 30 years (our whole lives) and really enjoy having these conversations. We hope you get as much learning as we have from these.
Would love to read your comments and feedback. Shoot us an email at willandlukediscuss@gmail.com.
Hope you enjoy.
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Lifelong friends, Will (Mental Health Social Worker, Australia) and Luke (Psychotherapist, UK), discuss influential books on personal growth, across fields of Psychology, Psychotherapy, Philosophy, Self-help and more.

We've been friends for 30 years (our whole lives) and really enjoy having these conversations. We hope you get as much learning as we have from these.
Would love to read your comments and feedback. Shoot us an email at willandlukediscuss@gmail.com.
Hope you enjoy.
Will & Luke

    #35 The Happiness Hypothesis (Jonathan Haidt, 2006)

    #35 The Happiness Hypothesis (Jonathan Haidt, 2006)

    This week we discuss The Happiness Hypothesis. Jonathon has laid out for us 10 key ideas derived from ancient wisdom that guide us in ways to achieve human flourishing and happiness, taking a positive psychology approach. We talk about a number of concepts around aligning our values with day to day action, integrating our personality across multiple levels and ways to cope during adversity. We also look into what Jonathon means by 'Happiness Between', work's role in happiness, how to change our mind and his notion of training the 'rider' of our emotional 'elephant' in order to create sustained change. A real catch all episode.   

    Hope you enjoy. 

    Will & Luke.   



    00:00 Introduction 

    03:00 Elephant and Rider concept 

    5:30 The uses of adversity (post traumatic growth).  3 Levels of integration to achieve in our personality - basic traits, characteristic adaptations and our life story.  Ways of coping - active, appraisal and avoidance. (Adapting self, adapting to environment and changing environment) 

    15:30 Pursuit of Happiness - Chapter 5 - Matching long term goals with short term ones. Taking action vs acceptance and loss of attachments. (Adaptation principle) (Progress principle) 

    21:10 Work's role in Happiness and discovering meaning (Engaging in our environment and work matching values) 

    25:15 Happiness Hypothesis - Happiness comes from between 

    30:00 Change your mind - Re-training the elephant through strengthening the rider! How to create sustained change. Tightening up vs loosening.  38:00 The Divided self - reason and emotion working together 

    39:40 Virtue Ethics - building individual virtues and character 

    42:00 Life being play (seriousness vs sincerity) playing our 'role' in life. Not investing life so intensely that it becomes stressful. (Life story is - Reconstructed past,  perceived present and anticipated future) 

    47:00 Acceptance vs Striving  

    48:00 Conclusion   

    Find the book at: https://jonathanhaidt.com/  



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    • 51 min
    #34 Deep Work (Cal Newport, 2016)

    #34 Deep Work (Cal Newport, 2016)

    This week we look into Cal Newport's 'Deep Work'. Talking about how we can use our time wisely to focus on what really matters free from unnecessary distractions and how can be push ourselves to our cognitive limits. We discuss how deep work is a skill that requires training and how we can best use the limited amount of time and energy we have in a day. We cover concepts of task switching, the impacts of technology on concentration, how to create free mental space to work and replenish ourselves. With a lengthy discussion on the 4 types of 'Depth Philosophies' that we can engage in. We think this one builds really nicely on the back of digital minimalism by the same author.   

    Hope you enjoy. 

    Will & Luke.  



    00:00 Introduction 

    2:40 What is Deep Work and why is it so valuable  

    4:40 Impact of Technology 

    6:10 Busy vs Productive/Effective 

    10:15 Importance of deep work - what we choose to pay attention to and how to become less distracted and Flow.  (Wider impacts) 

    15:15 Rules of Deep Work: Work Deeply (create the space/structure). It takes practice.  

    23:00 Depth Philosophies: Monastic (large chunk of time away), Journalistic (squeeze in deep work when you can), Rhythmic (clearly defined moments for deep work, develop a habit), Bimodal (day/few days off) 

    36:55 Other deep work strategies (embrace boredom, quitting social media, locking out sacred time, understanding your mental capacity, planning time to do specific tasks, schedule every part of your day, end of day rituals, treat emails as a distraction). 

    44:00 Training yourself to rejuvenate vs training to do deep work. Meaningful leisure not just 'chilling out'. 

    46:30 'Humans were born to be busy' - push yourself 

    49:00 Deep Work can be calculated by how long it would take to learn. 

    52:00 Conclusions  



    Find the book: https://www.calnewport.com/books/deep-work/



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    • 56 min
    #33 Social Chemistry (Marissa King, 2020)

    #33 Social Chemistry (Marissa King, 2020)

    How do we make friends, create networks and maintain strong ties with those in our lives? What reasons do people come and go from our lives? And, how can we deepen our friendships in moment to moment interactions? We discuss Marissa's ideas around social chemistry and the 3 types of networks/styles we adopt (Expansionists, Conveyers and Brokers). We also get stuck into ideas around work/life balance, the impact of technology on friendships and how we can diversify our networks.  

    Hope you enjoy. 

    Will & Luke.   



    00:00 Introductions and Communication Styles/Ties 

    04:28 Structures of Networks + What is friendship and how does it develop? 

    9:30 Expansionists 

    14:21: Conveners 

    16:30 Brokers 

    19:15 Friendships  - 'In the Moment' + Impact of phone use + Follow up questions 

    27:10 Barriers to and enhancers of communication (Enhancing self awareness and self faculty)  

    35:33 Oscillating between Broker and Convener - changing styles throughout life.  

    37:42 Work/Life Balance (Segmenters vs Integrators)  

    44:20 Energising vs Draining friendships  

    47:00 Maintenance through technology and shared activities 

    52:25 Who we are drawn to as friends and expanding diversity of networks 

    55:40 Final reflections and wrap up  



    This specific episode can also be seen on: https://youtu.be/aOvZ7MFLR4U

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    Purchase the book: https://marissaking.com/socialchemistry

    • 58 min
    #32 Digital Minimalism (Cal Newport, 2019)

    #32 Digital Minimalism (Cal Newport, 2019)

    This week we discuss Cal Newport's 'Digital Minimalism'. As technology, apps and social media continue to grip our attention and affect us in a multitude of negative ways, how can we gain back control? How can we optimise and extract value from the technologies we currently use so we have more time for meaningful activities and connections? We discuss some of the practices Cal suggests, as well as looking at aspects of having a digital declutter, the benefits of solitude and curating our information diet. A real practical episode with plenty of take aways.  

    Hope you enjoy. 

    Will & Luke  



    00:00 Introductions 

    2:15 Digital Life and the Philosophy of new technology  

    6:30 The Digital Declutter 8:50 Our inability to be alone 

    9:20 Technology and our core needs 

    10:50 Connection vs Conversation (Shallow vs Deep interactions) (Conversation centric communication) 

    15:30 Texting, compulsions, freedom 

    19:00 Utilising the benefits of technology - optimisation and extracting the value 

    24:05 Benefits of solitude and practices 

    32:00 Scheduling low quality leisure 

    33:25 Single purpose devices, utilising functions, notifications and other practices 

    36:00 Curating your information diet 

    38:30 Making your life full of non phone based activities + Doing 'nothing' is over-rated (Discover valuable activities) 

    43:00 Re-connecting with the body 

    44:20 Will's key take-aways 

    46:00 Conclusions around digital minimalism   



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    Purchase the book: https://www.calnewport.com/books/digital-minimalism/

    • 50 min
    #31 Carpe Diem Regained (Roman Krznaric, 2017)

    #31 Carpe Diem Regained (Roman Krznaric, 2017)

    Carpe Diem! Seize the day! You only live once! So many catch-all philosophies for living but what do they actually mean and how can we best live life to the fullest. This week we discuss the 5 ways that we can seize the day, extract full meaning from our days and look back on our life with few regrets. Also the ways in which we sculpt ourselves through our choices and the power of autonomy. We discuss how Carpe Diem has been hijacked, the cultural impacts on our ability to seize the day and the psychological blocks we can experience when trying to make the most of our lives. Ideas around death, freedom, power, procrastination, spontaneity, hedonism, mindfullness and the grasping of opportunity are explored.

    Hope you enjoy.

    Will & Luke.



    00:00 Introductions and old meanings of Carpe Diem

    04:30 Cultural Highjacks of Carpe Diem

    08:50 Cultural impacts

    10:10 The 5 Ways to 'Seize the Day' (Spontaniety, Opportunity, Presence, Politics, Hedonism)

    10:50 'Opportunity'

    16:30 'Dancing with Death' and 'Death tasters'

    24:25 The 'Role' Breaker

    29:00 Moving life into 'Chaos'

    30:10 'Hedonism'

    34:40 'Presence'

    43:30 I choose, therefor I am. Meaning through autonomy and choice. How we shape ourselves. (Act first think later)

    48:10 'Spontaneity' - Improvised, unplanned living

    54:47 Impact of technology on spontaneity

    56:15 Psychological blocks to Carpe Diem (Risk, Overload, Apathy and Procrastination)

    1:08:20 Conceptualising morality within Carpe Diem ideas

    1:10:10 Wrap up



    This specific episode can also be seen on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXbjT723BsY

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    Also available on: Anchor, Breaker, Pocket Casts, Radio Public.

    Find the book: https://www.romankrznaric.com/carpe-diem-regained

    • 1 hr 12 min
    #30 Beyond Order (Jordan Peterson, 2021)

    #30 Beyond Order (Jordan Peterson, 2021)

    A lively discussion about Jordan Peterson's latest book, Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life. We cover some of the chapters we found most inspiring and actionable.

    Hope you enjoy.

    Will & Luke



    00:00 Introductions

    07:00 Titles of the rules

    09:25 Rule 2: Imagine who you could be and aim single mindedly at that

    16:50 Rule 5: Do not do things you hate

    26:30 Rule 3: Do not hide unwanted things in the fog

    30:40 Rule 11: Do not allow yourself to become resentful deceitful or arrogant.

    36:30 The narratives we have of the world

    41:15 Rule 12: Be grateful despite your suffering

    45:35 Rule 8: Try to make one room in your house as beautiful as possible

    53:40 Chapter 9: If old memories still haunt you, write them down carefully and completely

    1:00:33 Final reflections

    Buy the book: https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/beyond-order/

    This specific episode can also be seen on: https://youtu.be/zCSK9jnbRTY

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    • 1 hr 6 min

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