Based Camp | Simone & Malcolm Collins

Based Camp | Simone & Malcolm Collins

Based Camp is a podcast focused on how humans process the world around them and the future of our species. That means we go into everything from human sexuality, to weird sub-cultures, dating markets, philosophy, and politics. Malcolm and Simone are a husband wife team of a neuroscientist and marketer turned entrepreneurs and authors. With graduate degrees from Stanford and Cambridge under their belts as well as five bestselling books, one of which topped out the WSJs nonfiction list, they are widely known (if infamous) intellectuals / provocateurs. If you want to dig into their ideas further or check citations on points they bring up check out their book series. Note: They all sell for a dollar or so and the money made from them goes to charity. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08FMWMFTG basedcamppodcast.substack.com

  1. 1 day ago

    Boomer Women Mortified By Dating Market

    Today on Based Camp we break down a Washington Post article on boomer women returning to dating after divorce. As it happens, dating markets aren’t just broken for young people! Through the article, we examine high divorce rates among seniors, common challenges like ghosting and mismatched expectations, and real stories from women navigating the modern scene. The discussion covers age gaps, political differences, scammers targeting older daters, and broader patterns in the relationship market for this generation. Show Notes Then this gem appeared in The Washington Post yesterday, October 27, 2026:“Boomer women are dating after divorce. Men don’t always meet their standards.” (Archive) by Shane O’Neill. Its subtitle is: “In the 1990s, baby boomer women set records for divorce. Thirty years later, how’s their love life?” The piece interviews older divorced women about returning to dating, including disappointments with men’s maturity, ghosting and flaking, political incompatibility, and men who are separated but haven’t actually divorced. One woman, Kristyne Haver, 69, describes 18 years of dating after her divorce. It isn’t uniformly bleak—there are successful connections, too—but underwhelmed by their dating experiences” is the overarching theme. Choice Quotes “High divorce rates among boomer women have continued after the 1990s. According to an analysis of U.S. Census data conducted by Bowling Green State University, the annual divorce rate among Americans 65 and older more than tripled between 1990 and 2023. Today, nearly 1 in 6 seniors is divorced.” “Kristyne Haver, 69, dated for 18 solid years after she got divorced. “I was dating or semi-dating that whole time,” Haver said from her office in Reading, Pennsylvania, where she works as a controller. “I’ve had some interesting situations.” For several years, she dated a dad in California who was separated from his wife but dragging his feet on getting divorced. On Facebook, she met another separated man in Missouri, but their online courtship ended when his wife started harassing her and her friends. She reconnected with a college boyfriend on LinkedIn who lived in Tampa, but ultimately decided that long-distance love wasn’t for her. “And of course, you get the younger guys looking for — what, a sugar mama or whatever?” Not that Haver was opposed to age gaps. Over the years, she dated several younger men, including a Russian 25 years her junior whom she met in the parking lot of a grocery store, where she found him admiring her Porsche Boxster. A month into the relationship, he casually mentioned that the last woman he dated paid him $1,000 a month. That’s when she implemented a new rule: “I said, ‘From now on, they have to have been born when Kennedy was shot.’”” On Politics “In 2019, after her 45th high school reunion in Iowa, Haver received an unexpected message from a high school friend. He had missed the reunion, but saw photos of her celebrating and reached out. “He, for some reason, just decided to look me up on Classmates.com of all places,” she said with a shudder. “Horrible, horrible site,” she said. The online user experience was bad, but the conversation was good. “I would get in great political discussions with him, because he was a dyed-in-the-wool Republican and I was as far from that as possible, especially now,” Haver said. They married four years ago. For other women we spoke to, political disagreement did not translate to romantic frisson. Pearson Brown, 63, recently ended a 10-year postdivorce relationship with a man over political differences. “I knew his politics were different than mine, and we never really discussed politics very much,” Brown said from her home in Warrenton, Virginia, where she works in pharmaceutical PR and advertising. “But as my primary partner, I’d say ‘Groceries are high’ or ‘Gas is [expensive]’ and it would become a political conversation. ‘Pass the salt’ became a political statement,” she said. In February of this year, it became too much. They went their separate ways. The experience changed the way she now approaches online dating. “Some people say, ‘No MAGA’ and I’m like, ‘Okay, fine,’” Brown said. “Before, I used to say, ‘I don’t like anybody saying “No something.”’ No fat, no smoke, whatever. But now I’m like, ‘Okay, I just saved myself some time.’”” On Unwillingness to Change ““At this point, I have my house, I have my own space, I have my life,” said Lacey Wootton, who retired from her job as a professor at American University in May 2025. “It sounds small and petty, but I don’t think it is: I have dinner when I want to have dinner, and if I want to watch something on TV, I do, or if I want to sit and read, I do,” Wootton, 66, said. “And I have closet space.” Wootton agreed she sounded a little like Carol Burnett, who once told Joan Rivers, “If I ever got married again, he would have to live next door.” She’s currently dating, and she’s enjoyed some relationships with men that have lasted a few months. But her standards are high for settling down. “If, by chance, I met someone who was really amazing, I would think about that compromise,” she said. “But I’m also not hunting.” Wootton divorced amicably from her husband when she was 50. “I was really scared of being alone,” Wootton said. But gradually, she acclimated to single life. Very well. Now, 16 years later, she’s never been happier. She volunteers, she goes to the theater, she reads voraciously, and she has a circle of friends who share her interests. When we spoke, she was hours away from flying to Scandinavia for a two-week adventure. She’s not interested in a romantic partner who can’t keep up. “Men age more than women, and I don’t want to be a 72-year-old nursemaid,” she said. Wootton has also found that age does not necessarily bring maturity. She’s been ghosted and flaked on more times than she can count. “Some of those habits that older people maybe ascribe to younger people in terms of digital behavior, our age group does it, too,” she said.” Scams The article also talks about older women dating online getting scammed: “Part of her coaching involves looking out for red flags like refusing to meet in person or on video, love bombing, and introducing financial discussions early in the relationship. Of course, safety is the most important concern when it comes to dating at any age.” More… Extreme Cases “Some seniors are wilder than others. For some boomers, the counterculture never straightened out and the sexual revolution never stopped revolving. “I can tell you, there are girls in their mid-80s who are still in circulation, right?” said Renée Imperato, 78, from her apartment in Manhattan. “They’re still bumping the hump, you hear me?” When she was in her 20s, Imperato mostly dated older men. That is no longer the case. “Sometimes younger people say, ‘Renée, you’re the queen, you’re our elder, where are all the other people in your age group?’” said the retired Air Force veteran and longtime transgender rights activist. “And you know what my answer is? One word: AIDS.” Imperato has been married four times and has dated people of many genders. These days she “predominantly” identifies as a trans lesbian. She has “T4T” tattooed on her neck, signaling her preference for dating other trans people. And she’s currently dating a couple several decades her junior. When we spoke, she was recovering from a foot injury and shingles. She refuses to let such things slow her down. “Listen, honey, as long as I can do what I can do, I’m going to do it until I can’t,” Imperato said.” Episode Transcript Simone Collins:Hello, Malcolm. I’m very glad to be speaking with you today because we’re back for another episode of webinar terrible bonus boomer edition. Oh my gosh. So excited. Malcolm Collins:This is on the glamorization of hag... Because I said hag maxing, Simone’s like, I’m a hag. I max it. This isn’t what we’re talking about. Simone Collins:This is an insult to the concept of hags because what we’re going to be talking about today i… This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit basedcamppodcast.substack.com/subscribe

    Boomer Women Mortified By Dating Market
  2. 3 days ago

    I Was Wrong: P*rn Can Destroy Your Life

    Today on Based Camp, we explore how specific types of adult content (namely, sissy hypno) can influence personal identity and life choices over time. Drawing on research studies, first-person accounts from both those who transitioned and detransitioners, and real-world examples involving online creators, Malcolm highlights patterns in arousal pathways that appear more likely to lead to significant changes. Our conversation covers methodology used in certain online communities, the role of compulsive consumption and secrecy, and contrasts these with other categories that show fewer long-term risks. Malcolm also shares practical strategies for recognizing early signs and redirecting focus toward alternatives that support stable relationships and family goals. Also: Hat tip for Zouken for the funny comic, made with the RFab.ai comic creator! Episode Transcript Simone Collins [0:00]:Hello, Malcolm Collins [0:02]:Simone. I’m excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be exploring the question of whether certain types of pornography can lead to gender disassociation And eventual gender transition. And this would be a major update for me because, generally, the approach I have taken to [bleep] is as long as it doesn’t involve real people, you know, you’re not supporting the OnlyFans industry. You’re not supporting the human sex worker industry. You’re not supporting any of that. I generally saw it as a protective thing because it was a way for kids to engage with arousal and their sexuality that didn’t put them in as much danger as as some of the other pathways. I now am significantly updating that after doing more research here Oh. To which I am going to update it to some arousal pathways are entirely safe to experiment with and play with. Other arousal pathways are very, very dangerous to explore. Simone Collins [1:07]:Including sissy hypno? Does sissy hypnos hypnotize you to Malcolm Collins [1:10]:become a sissy? That’s one of the things we’re gonna... I don’t I don’t think it... The main topic of this is gonna be sissy hypno, but it’s... It was really inspired for me more by thinking about the Amber Paradox situation and whether or not this is it... Because... And I try to think about it with as much empathy as possible. I feel really bad for him. I feel really bad that this happened to him. I do not think that he went into any of this with a malicious intent. and I feel like he sort of got trapped in it. And and part of it for me, if you look at this, you know, him questioning his gender identity and whether or not he’s trans and whether or not he wants to go down that pathway, I feel in a way... This isn’t the only YouTuber this has happened to. there was another YouTuber who, when he was younger, wanna say Freddie or something, he would dress up as a girl, like, once every month for, like, some streams. Some of the viewers got off on him dressing like a girl. Good. And so they did things to encourage him doing it more and more and more. And as he got into this girl mind space, he eventually decided he’s trans. Speaker 3 [2:12]:he originally presented this as a humorous gag and swore to be cisgendered, as time went on, the story took an odd turn as the streamers started hanging out with trans individuals who would eventually be accused of crimes against minors. On top of this, a wealthy donor started appearing in his chats offering him an ever increasing amount of money to fully embrace his female persona to the point that they legitimately offered $300,000 for Finster to get a breast augmentation surgery. Within five years, what started as a supposed goof was now the young British lad’s entire life. Presenting as a woman full time, getting intensive gender affirming surgery, struggling with alcohol abuse, and filming hardcore adult content for those willing to pay. Malcolm Collins [3:00]:And what we’ll be exploring here is the way that groups of guys... Because this is a fetish, and it is a fetish that we’ve we’ve had on our show. Well, we never aired the episode because the guy was really boring. But, like, the transvaccine community seems to... The guy who leads the transvaccine community, for people who do not know, is a cis male. Speaker 14 [3:19]:This is a community dedicated to try to convince incels that their life will be easier if they just become a woman. Even if they are an uglier or whatever woman, because they are trans, it’s still easier than being a male incel, which is a compelling argument to a lot of young guys online. what really... When I first heard it, it sounds like, yeah. That makes sense. And then I learned that the community is run, and the manifesto trying to convince people to transition is run by somebody who didn’t transition themselves And that’s when I was like, oh, this is a fetish thing. Malcolm Collins [3:52]:And if you look at the trans vaccine manifesto, it is very clearly written by somebody who gets turned on by the idea of convincing guys to transition. We also saw this really clearly with the giggling Gooner clown files, but those aren’t the only instances. Turkey Tom Giggly Goon Clown Files [4:09]:A year later, the boy joined Tumblr to participate in fish communities. This exposed him to sissy hypnosis Yet, there was still a sense of shame as he attempted to quit masturbating several times. Before I was 17, I would delete all my, like, once every few months in a no fat fit, trying to get my life back together. And I would just come back over and over. That all changed one fateful night when he finally gave in. Speaker 30 [4:31]:And I’d point out here even with the giggling Gooner files, you see an association between intense feelings of shame around pornography consumption and going off and becoming a full. These two things are very closely linked to each other. And if you don’t accept that shame in the beginning, you appear to, other episodes on this, have less of a chance of going off the deep end. Turkey Tom Giggly Goon Clown Files [4:59]:I remember going outside completely naked except for my shoes at around 3AM. Eventually, I came, I shouted quite loudly, hell Satan. This wasn’t something I planned beforehand. It just happened in the heat of the moment. The first excerpt comes from DMs Every single trans girl is a horrible pervert to some extent. I haven’t ever heard of one who isn’t. I should become a t slur too just to pile on. And women don’t feel safe around you, dude. They just know they’ll be canceled if they don’t act that way. God. every t slur finds out one way or the other. All it took was for you to realize sexual predator equals t slur. OMG, I love pretending to be a girl. I don’t care if it’s predatory or whatever. Don’t blow up our spot, bro. All tslers are like that. You can trust me around your kid, it’d be transphobic not to. Me with daycare tots. Jack broke up with his girlfriend, was on estrogen, and had an OnlyFans. Orion was the manager of said OnlyFans, coursing him every step of the way. This is apparent by how he talked about him to others. Has he started hormones yet? Yes, but not effectively. I guess it’s what you’d expect just telling a... Or to buy hormones. They bought estrogen but no anti androgen. It would have been more fun if he started hormone blockers at like 12. Isn’t that true for everyone? Don’t worry. I’ll make him into a good girl. here they are praising an infographic It’s genuinely really good grooming advice. On 04/04/2023, postcard reveals he’s in contact with four minors aged nine to 13. I’ve so far sent it to four minors between the ages of nine and 13. I hope it encourages them to transition. He gloated about actively grooming them weeks later through EPI. Can you send me furry HMVs? Any Useni will be forwarded directly to a minor. Malcolm Collins [6:29]:Right? Like, this is not that unusual of a fetish, actually. And so I look at these communities and look for the methodology that they’ve been using to effectively transition people. And, essentially, wha… This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit basedcamppodcast.substack.com/subscribe

  3. 4 days ago

    Zoomers Yearn for the Empire: Why?

    Today on Based Camp we break down the delightful Anakin Skywalker memes sweeping social media, especially among young men. We explore why the prequel trilogy resonates as a critique of bureaucracy, institutional failure, and generational divides, with the Empire positioned as an aspirational alternative. Our chat examines themes of loyalty, competence, and long-term visions for human civilization through a Star Wars lens, covering historical parallels from old MTV segments, deeper cultural shifts toward rebuilding institutions, and Malcolm’s own sci-fi universe in the upcoming game Broodfall (which we would love for you to wishlist on Steam!). Show Notes The Premise Elon Musk: This is what they stole from us Makes sense, seeing as, like Anakin, they find themselves shackled by an ossified bureaucracy that stifles him and fails to defend the people he loves. The Jokes The jokes are hilarious: * Sir Doge of the Coin: My politics in 2020 // My politics now * Colonel Otaju Gatekeeper: The Sand People gave us Curry & Kebabs Anakin * Joel Webbon: “But we won WWII, Anakin!” “It doesn’t look like won.” * Thaulos: ““Jar-Jar Binks is just as intelligent as you Anakin, he just needs proper education”” The Padme Commentary There’s even Padme commentary: * Milena Z: “Had Padme used her female intuition and been a supportive wife, she would’ve told Anakin to get rid of both the jedi and that manipulative backstabbing creep Palpatine so they could rule the galaxy together.” * Joel Webbon: Padme didn’t die from a broken neck from Anakin. She died from a broken heart because Anakin turned out to not support gay race communism. She epitomizes the liberal woman who chooses ideology over her own marriage and family. Jokes aside, this is deeper than what many would assume on the surface—it’s part of a much longer-term shift in youth sentiment that hints at what the long-term future of human civilization may look like, so let’s get into it. The Discourse Some choice posts on X: Why Zoomers Relate * Modern Vitalist: From the Zoomer perspective the Jedi are evil Anakin was born of a Virgin, conceived by the Force, the Jedi Council knew he was the Chosen One.. Yet still, they rejected him… Why? Because he was more powerful than them Imagine they had loved him, trusted him, and recognized his Divine Destiny Instead they: -forbid him to reproduce -allowed his mother to be sold into slavery and viscously murdered by “sand people” -watched the Democratic Process of the Republic evolve into a powerless stalemate -traded Ancient Prophecy in favor of a modern interpretation thereby mocking the very Tradition they claimed to protect They got what they deserved. Long live the Empire. Hail Lord Vader * Rich:Extremely talented and competent white man being lectured by a diverse cast of DEI hires who are objectively inferior to his skill and power at this point in his life. Yet he’s locked out of pursuing a greater destiny by a geriatric bureaucracy with rules even it doesn’t seem to understand why it enforces anymore. Windu aggressively telling Anakin to “take a seat” as if he could force the superior Skywalker to do anything he didn’t want to do. The Council talks down to him because of some arbitrary organizational title they give each other - again, all while being inferior to him. The Council, standing for peace and progress, stood in the way of both. It’s no wonder Anakin would turn his back on this organization and why it’s so relatable to young men in this society. * Adeptus Liberatus: In his first meeting with the Jedi Council, Anakin is asked if his “thoughts dwell with his mother.” To this, Anakin responds, “I miss her.” Keep in mind Anakin is a child who has just been separated from his mother for presumably the first time and is now on an entirely different planet. He expresses one of the most basic and human emotions a boy could express in that moment. Within 30 seconds, Yoda is telling him he is full of fear and on the path to the Dark Side. Fast forward to Episode 2. Anakin wants to save his mother from slavery after promising her in Episode 1 as a little boy he would come back and free her. It would be very easy to do. He’s served and learned under the Jedi for 10 years, and despite his hotheadedness and youthful mistakes, he remains loyal. What do the Jedi do? They let his mother die at the hands of alien savages. He has to witness her dying moments. Yeah, but sure, Anakin is weak. Oh yeah, and how did Luke wreck Vader btw? Vader threatened to turn Leia to the Dark Side which enrages Luke. Luke defeats Vader in a fit of pure, unadulterated, white hot rage. There’s no stoic virtuee in Luke during the final seconds of his duel with Vader. It’s the most belligerent and furious we ever see Luke across all three movies. Finally, you cannot call Anakin weak and claim to understand the story. Anakin is true identity: it’s the boy who loves his mother, the young man who fell in love with Padme, the student who trained under Obi Wan, the prodigy pod racer, the Chosen One. That identity was destroyed by the very order that he fought for and was loyal to until it broke him for their corrupt purposes. The Boomer Jedi view of the world will die and we are going to win. The Leftist Hate * Tons point to the “killing kids” thing * Dalton Pruitt: “I can explain the Anakin thing. Right wingers are really f*****g stupid.” * S. Foster: “Anakin was the epitome of weak men creating hard times.” * Project Liberal: “Anakin was gaslit and manipulated by people smarter than him. So this makes perfect sense actually.” This is Not New In a 2005 episode of MTV True Life there’s a disaffected 20-something young man whose boomer dad spends “too much time playing with toys” and who loves 2:25: Dad’s caught up in this whole Jedi Knight thing (timestamped) And ultimately they go to a convention together Jump forward to some cuts where they show the son clapping when fans in Imperial cosplay get engaged and the son wonders why “they don’t have more of those” referring to USA flag stormtroopers: (timestamped) And he goes on to saying how he’s more pulled to the dark side and he says he wants to be stormtrooper. Then he tries on armor and his dad is legit disappointed and insistent that he’ll convert him: (timestamped) Analysis and Larger Meaning An Outsider’s Analysis Katherine Dee’s take: “why now, why these images? What happened to the, well, meme-ier, more 4chan-feeling stuff?” Her two theories: “The Online Right has been mined by a lot of different interest groups — podcasters, hipsters, people like myself looking to grow their TikTok followings, Elon Musk, the government itself, Boomers who run think tanks, et al. This caused a sort of “Eternal September” of the e-right, that is, opened the floodgates for new people. Fandom of this type is the lingua franca of the everyman. In other words: demographic shift. It’s some kind of pre-midterms op. The Powers That Be fully believe in meme-magick post-Trump, see: Ron DeSantis, the shameful way our administration tweets. The problem is that the secret is out. It’s not going to work anymore. I have a whole convoluted theory about how the magic of the Internet has been drained; magic phenomena doesn’t like to be seen or controlled or explained in the way people are trying to.” What I think Katherine Dee is missing is this isn’t people supporting the establishment right or some vague form of the right, it’s people who want and fully intend to build a new world order. Analysis from the Inside In Tom Foe’s coverage of this (Anakin Was Right About Democracy), he agrees that: * Anakin serves as a symbol of frustrated young masculinity (complete with awkwardness i.e. Anakin saying: “I don’t like sand.” to Padme—arguing that the awkward lines are more relatable than they are poorly written) * The Star Wars prequels are an indictment of the democratic establishment * Security and personal loyalty take precedence over democratic principles He also: * defends Anakin’s massacre of the Tusken Raiders as vengeance for his mother and draws an analo… This is a public episode. 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  4. 5 days ago

    ‘How To Trans Without Mom Knowing’ Letter Sent to 4.2M Kids

    A large-scale mailing of a Texas transgender and LGBTQ student resource guide reached households across the state right as early voting began for the midterms. The envelope listed a nonexistent return address and pointed recipients to groups and programs for support outside the family, including emancipation details and out of state care options. Intriguing, right? In this episode of Based Camp, we examine the competing claims about who created and distributed the materials, review the pamphlet contents, and cover new reporting on networks that help families access transition related services despite state restrictions through telehealth and alternative medical coding. Ultimately, who sent the Texas mailer is less important to us than the fact that many far-left movements now operate underground, below the radar, meaning that the most important counteraction involves shedding light on their agenda and actions. Show Notes What Was Sent Out A large-scale mailing of “Texas Trans & LGBTQ+ Student Resource Guide” pamphlets has hit Texas households (addressed to “Students Of The [Family Name] Family”) as early voting opened for the November 3, 2026 midterms. * Recipients were across Texas, including the Dallas-Fort Worth area, Houston region, San Antonio, the Texas Panhandle, Texarkana, and Southeast Texas * The sender is listed as the Texas Transgender Student Union with a return address of 1611 W. Airport Blvd., Suite 123, Meadows Place, TX 77477— * an address that does not exist (it is close to a real UPS Store mailbox address associated with other groups). * The materials have sparked outrage, investigations, and speculation that they are a political dirty trick timed to the election. What the Mailer Says It is a glossy fold-out brochure. The cover reads “TEXAS TRANS & LGBTQ+ STUDENT RESOURCE GUIDE,” shows clasped hands against pink/blue graphics, and states: “You are not alone. There are people in Texas who will help you find support.” Key sections (drawn from photos and reporting) include: * If you are “trans, nonbinary, or questioning and your family, school, or community isn’t supportive”: “YOU DON’T HAVE TO FIGURE EVERYTHING OUT BY YOURSELF.” It positions itself as a starting point for supportive people, youth programs, legal information, and community, with a note that laws change quickly. * “WHAT TO DO IF YOUR PARENTS DON’T SUPPORT YOU”: “First: You deserve support even if your parents don’t understand or agree with you.” It advises finding a “safe adult” (trusted teacher, counselor, relative, friend’s parent, therapist, or youth organization staff member) and contacting groups including TENT (transtexas.org), OutYouth, Montrose Center/Hatch, and Resource Center Dallas. * Emancipation: “WHAT IF I WANT TO BE EMANCIPATED?” It outlines Texas law allowing minors to petition if they are 17, or at least 16 and living separately, self-supporting, managing their own financial affairs, and if the court finds it in the minor’s best interest. It links to Texas Law Help. * Hormones/gender-affirming care: Advises finding a trusted organization rather than trying to obtain medication yourself, so they can explain current Texas rules (which ban hormone treatment for gender dysphoria in minors) and connect to legal, healthcare, and support resources. * Out-of-state care: Notes that for those under 18, parental consent, custody, and the laws of both states matter; it recommends talking to a legal organization first (linking TENT, Lambda Legal, and ACLU of Texas). * It promotes TENT’s “Trans Texas Takeover” Fall Tour with dates and locations (McAllen, Lubbock, Amarillo, Austin, Houston, Fort Worth, Dallas, Tyler, etc.). * Closing panel (“ONE FINAL THING”): “You don’t need to have everything figured out. You don’t have to know whether you’re definitely trans. You don’t have to decide about hormones or surgery right now. You don’t have to convince your parents. Your job right now is to stay safe, find people who will listen to you, and give yourself time to figure out who you are. … Even if your family doesn’t accept you as you are, groups like these are ready to become your found family.” It heavily features TENT branding, websites, QR codes, and resources, plus mentions of other groups. The Accused “Trans Union” / TENT’s Response * There is no legitimate, preexisting Texas organization called the Texas Transgender Student Union. * The real group repeatedly named and linked is the Transgender Education Network of Texas (TENT), a statewide trans-led advocacy organization (active since around 2010) that provides education, resources, and advocacy on issues such as schools, bathrooms, bullying, and Texas laws affecting transgender people. * TENT has repeatedly and strongly denied any involvement. * Its statement (posted on its website around October 17) says: * “We are aware of text messages and now physical mailers that have been circulated concerning TENT that appear to have been issued by or on behalf of the organization. These text messages and mailers were not authored, authorized, approved, or distributed by TENT and are not affiliated with our organization. The texts do not represent the official position or communications of the organization.” * It has described the materials as impersonations, faced online hate and threats of violence, locked down much of its website (in some reports to a single statement page), paused or adjusted its statewide tour for safety, and sent cease-and-desist letters related to unauthorized texts. * Other groups named (including OutYouth) have also denied involvement * Some temporarily closed spaces due to backlash. * TENT is sought a court order to compel information from the LLC and messaging providers to identify the sender before Election Day. * Its attorney has called the campaign “dirty, unethical tricks” timed to early voting. Does the mailer reflect TENT’s views? * TENT says no—the materials do not represent its official position and were not authorized by it. * Its own publicly available resources focus more on navigating existing Texas restrictions (e.g., bathrooms, school policies, parental rights laws) and support for families than on guiding minors toward emancipation or certain forms of advice against parental involvement. * Critics (including some conservative outlets and commentators) argue the messaging is consistent with broader themes in some transgender advocacy materials (support networks outside the family, resources for care, minimizing parental gatekeeping). * The mailer explicitly directs readers to TENT and promotes its tour. Also, it’s plain wrong for pro-trans groups to pretend that they’re not creating an underground railway for gender transition * City Journal recently released the findings of an undercover investigation by Christina Buttons in an article titled: “Inside the Network Helping Families Evade Bans on Pediatric Gender-Transition Treatments” * The article details the work of an alleged a nonprofit-led network that helps families access gender-transition treatment for minors despite state bans * It also reports that some participating clinics go beyond arranging lawful out-of-state care to discuss potentially unlawful workarounds * Detail from Christina’s findings * The central organization is the Campaign for Southern Equality (CSE). Its Trans Youth Emergency Project connects families with providers and helps cover travel and treatment costs. According to the article, it works with more than 130 partners and has provided over $1 million in travel grants to more than 1,200 families. Grants typically amount to $500, potentially available four times annually. * Christina posed as a parent seeking care for a fictional 11-year-old in Tennessee who had recently begun identifying as nonbinary and had not undergone a professional evaluation. * A collaborator posed as an Idaho parent seeking testosterone and chest surgery for a 16-year-old. * CSE staff offered referrals and financial assistance; the reporters did not accept money * Some clinic representatives reportedly discussed using general “endocrine d… This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit basedcamppodcast.substack.com/subscribe

    ‘How To Trans Without Mom Knowing’ Letter Sent to 4.2M Kids
  5. 6 days ago

    An Anthropology of the Nerd Right’s Emerging Sexual Morality

    Today on Based Camp we examine three recent scandals in the new right online space and what they reveal about emerging standards for sexuality, relationships, and online personas. We discuss Ethan Klein’s separation and infidelity, the Ember Paradox VTuber gender reveal, and attempts to cancel Powdur over past content. The conversation explores broader questions around VTuber personas, marital expectations, personal fantasies versus involving others, and the distinction between harmless yearning and problematic behavior. We also address community responses, power dynamics, and how these events shape norms in right-leaning spaces. Episode Transcript Malcolm Collins:Hello, Simone. I’m excited to be here with you today. Today, we are gonna be talking about something that has been anthropologically really interesting for me in the last couple weeks. There have been three attempted cancellations slash major scandals that came out this past week. And the way that each of them has spun out and ended up working out for the people involved has shown that the new right online space is settling on an ideology of what is appropriate behavior and what is inappropriate behavior in regards to sexuality, gooning, and yearning. Specifically, we’re going to be talking about the instance of Ethan Klein being in a relationship where it appears his wife hadn’t had sex with him for years and then deciding to cheat on her, which is interesting in terms of how people are going to react to that. Then we have the case of Amber Paradox, who was a female presenting VTuber who turned out to be a male. Then we have the case of Powder and somebody attempting to cancel her for past horny posting. Not like that, but but, you know, twerking and stuff like that and working on projects that had horny related stuff in it and horny stuff on her Discord. And just for the sort of scorecard at the end of this, the Powder situation has, if anything, helped Simone Collins:her. Malcolm Collins:It’s increased her reputation. It really reminds me of the in praise of shadows attempted attack on Windigo. Oh. Hilarious. It made in praise of shadows look horrible and Windigo look great in terms of when everybody did all the reactions. Hers was even worse than that because the key piece of evidence that he led the entire attack with was that she had an OnlyFans account, which was a link to a Rickroll that she had done on April first fools day, like, a number of years ago. And, I mean, to his credit, she said she lost. She said that she only had 15,000 followers back then, and she lost a thousand of them when she did this. Oh. Because so many people believed it. Simone Collins:Oh, they got mad that it wasn’t mad. Malcolm Collins:Yeah. That’s why you’re really careful about Simone Collins:Wow. I’ve never heard people to take a rickroll that bad. I thought, you know, you just... You chuckle. You keep going. Malcolm Collins:Yeah. The... So, like, let’s go into each of these. The Ember Paradox situation has been perhaps the most interesting to me. Are you familiar with it, Simone? Simone Collins:Vaguely. You know? Malcolm Collins:So in the past, we have said there is not a lot of drama in, like, the new rights space or mini scandals. Simone Collins:Right. Now And then when this came out, they’re like, Malcolm. Malcolm. What’s this about there being no drama? In Three in Malcolm Collins:a row. Well, I think, one, it’s a lot of the drama in this space is stirred up by a single individual. and at first, when the Amber Paradox thing happened, I was more upset with this individual than I was at Amber Paradox. Same, unfortunately. The the individual is Straub. Simone Collins:I’m chalking it up to postpartum sleep deprivation and, angriness because it... It’s tough sometimes. I could see someone expressing extra displaced aggression. Malcolm Collins:She did the same thing where she crashed out on Yuki and Powder for their views on Well, first date of birth. Do you Simone Collins:know how mean I am to you when I’m It is true. Malcolm Collins:Yeah. Okay. We’ll we’ll chalk it up to that. But Simone Collins:I’m trying to give her an out here. I I... Because because I I I think, you know, I think they’re a great power couple. You know, Rev says Destiny. Malcolm Collins:Well, no. Hold on. I’m actually going to... As more information has come out, I think she was a more in the right than I originally realized. Simone Collins:Okay. Because it did seem like she was stirring up nonsense and causing conflict when she really didn’t need to. But, also, I’m like, look. I get it. I do a lot of things I don’t... I shouldn’t do when I’m under the influence as it were. Malcolm Collins:Of of women juices. Simone Collins:Of being female. Malcolm Collins:This is what... This is the problem with bringing women into our community. I’m Simone Collins:so sorry. Yes. Malcolm Collins:But... Yeah. So she ends up dropping this because some fan found some DMs that showed a connection, and, then he admits it. and, my initial thought in relation to all of this is, oh, no. Did you know that my good friend Leaflet isn’t a real slime girl? Like, big drop. I I I have completely undermined her trust in me. and then worse, I’ve really been, because the takes that have gone most viral on it have been Yukiyara’s takes. And her takes focus on the idea of, well, even privately to me as your friend, you didn’t tell me, which led me to engage with you in private conversations as if you were a woman, to which I understand why that can be hurtful, but this is Amber Paradox’s entire career. Right? They could be blown up over this. And you’re, like, kinda friends, but apparently, like, not so good of friends that, like, I I would... You wouldn’t share that if you were faking your gender. Simone Collins:Classic, gender bent anime scenario where either a boy or girl ends up having to go to school, and as a as a boy, but, you know, she’s really a girl, and she’s going to an all boy school. And then they all have crushes on each other and blah blah blah, and it gets very confusing. It’s one of those situations where, like, you start to really care about these people, and then the lie gets deeper, but you can’t tell them because of... Insert plot point. Malcolm Collins:No. That’s not why you can’t tell them. You can’t Simone Collins:tell them because career was gonna be lost if it came out well. Malcolm Collins:It’s your entire career. You can’t tell everyone you collab with that your your real gender. Point being, this was all outed because he told somebody. Right? Like, did did somebody dug something up, swirling? Simone Collins:That’s true. Yeah. Malcolm Collins:You got nothing. Secondary point is is if Yuki really did share such personal information with him because she thought he was a girl, then he, despite the attacks from her, hasn’t released it, which is Simone Collins:No. It’s just... Look. There’s some stuff that I don’t bring up with you that I bring up with other people Malcolm Collins:who are True. I’m... Yeah. What I’m saying, it probably wasn’t anything that egregious. So it sounds like it’s more of a... Or he’s just uniquely moral, but that’s not what I think is really going on here. The real reason, I don’t care that he lied to friends. Okay? If you are interacting with a VTuber, you should take at face value that you are interacting with a persona. Simone Collins:Well, yes. That’s true. Yes. Fair enough. Malcolm Collins:And I think to presume more than that... And I think it’s important to take that because if you’re like, well, now I’ve been turned gay because I masturbated or found this person attractive. And I’m like, if that happened to you, this should be a warning to you about never gooning to VTuber. What are you doing? Simone Collins:Well... But also, I’d like... The the funny thing is there’s this... In a totally separate world, this Disney adult controversy playing out with this this woman who, over ten years, has has stalked and obsessed over and posted about the Pet… This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit basedcamppodcast.substack.com/subscribe

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  6. 2 Nov

    Women Make Their Debauchery High Status (Perversion = Prestige)

    Today on Based Camp, we examine the rise of prestige porn, where highbrow erotica in books, audiobooks, and films is marketed as sophisticated entertainment and even therapy. We review recent articles profiling women who consume explicit content framed as luxury or self-care, including mainstream retail tie-ins and celebrity involvement. Our discussion covers cultural shifts toward hedonism and nihilism, with analysis of specific titles, apps, and movies, and the preposterous markups apparently charged by Bloomingdale’s—while also touching on broader trends in media consumption and relationship dynamics. Show Notes A Michigan State University analysis of 38,467 songs by 230 popular artists, spanning 1947–2024 found that artists’ lyrics grow more anxious over their careers and that newer artists write with more anger than their predecessors—plus declining references to social relationships. The “Prestigification” of Porn ‘Prestige porn’: married doctor-moms are listening to XXX audiobooks in the family SUV and calling it therapy Choice quotes: Opening Profile “Rachel is a 41-year-old doctor in Bergen County, New Jersey. She has a solid, loving marriage to a fellow MD, two boisterous kids under seven, and one method that she uses to stay sane: Prestige porn. Specifically, the kind of highbrow erotica with the same explicit content as a softcore video, but made by award-winning filmmakers and novelists, and starring Oscar-winning actors instead of OnlyFans girls.” ““It’s become like my therapy,” said the family medicine specialist, who plays XXX-rated audiobooks like “Helpless” by Jessica Knoll and “A Court of Thorns and Roses” by Sarah J. Maas when she’s driving alone in her family SUV, and watches movies like “Baby Girl” and shows like “Industry” on her iPhone while doing laundry.” “In another generation, Rachel would likely need to keep her sex-positive programming under wraps. Not today.” ““My group chat is full of moms who trade [sex content] recommendations,” Rachel told The Post. “It feels like you’re watching any other good movie… just with bondage.” The Growing Industry Rachel and her friends are reaping the rewards of prestige porn, a new genre where 40+ women are centered in highbrow erotica about sexual dominance and desire — in movies, in books and at upscale fashion and beauty boutiques. Think “Fifty Shades” for women who have a mortgage, a career and no patience for fake bags… or fake orgasms. The era of prestige porn means Oscar winners like Nicole Kidman, 59, and Olivia Colman, 52, can engage in once-unthinkable graphic acts for au courant movie studios like A24. Jessica Knoll, who has made millions writing crime thrillers, is now a Gen X Anais Nin writing about unspeakable — but delightfully readable — sex acts in her bestselling new book “Helpless.” Meanwhile, Bloomingdale’s now sells $108 “arouse stimulating serum” alongside its Louis Vuitton purses; at Revolve, there are anal beads and Isabel Marant. And the $60 erotica app Quinn tells bedtime stories spicier than Blue Ribbon’s wasabi, read by Emmy nominee (and Dior darling) Andrew Scott.” * What’s notable about this article is just how abundant the products and media are * So far, we’ve got: Books, audiobooks, subscription audio services, stimulating serums, and anal beads. Wicker ““The latest entry into these artful new films came this weekend: “Wicker,” an “absurdist romantic comedy” starring Colman as a frustrated spinster and Alexander Skarsgård as a man made of straw who gives her a roll in the hay. When its steamy trailer debuted in July, it went so viral that doctors had to warn people against pleasuring themselves with “trees or shrubs.” The movie opens nationwide on Oct. 30, but advance screenings for the show — including several with “vibrating and motion seats” — sold out across the country. Reddit reports say the theaters are full of older women. In Florida’s Palm Beach Gardens, The Post saw an entire screening room full of female retirees. “Very enjoyable,” said one 74-year-old woman named Joyce after the movie, under the condition that she withhold her last name. “My kids read your paper.”” * The preview is pretty flagrant The Prestige Psyop “Why is our era so ripe for prestige porn? “People are totally disconnected from their bodies right now,” said Brianna Makówka, MSEd, LMHC, CST, a licensed sex therapist who specializes in kink therapy. She told The Post that between social media, dating apps and remote work, “we’re living in screens so often that our bodies are reminding us how important they are to our full being.” Prestige porn, she argues, is letting us frame sex as not just desirable but luxurious, which gives people — especially women — permission to engage in it more openly.” * I see it differently; I think it’s a sign that people feel it’s OK to celebrate self indulgence and nihilism The article goes into detail describing smutty Broadway shows and sex products being sold in mainstream stores for things like makeup and underwear. They also describe how the semblance of luxury is being used to legitimize nihilistic hedonism: ““Elevated design gives people permission to view sex as something they should feel good about wanting and exploring,” said Goicochea, who counts the Hollywood bombshell Dakota Johnson as a business partner. Maude was one of Sephora’s first-ever sexual wellness brands; today it sells lube and vibrators at Ulta Beauty next to Naomi Watt’s sexual wellness line, Stripes, which was created especially for post-menopausal libidos. Gwyneth Paltrow, 54, sells her own lubrication — called “Sex Oil” — through her Goop wellness empire for $55. “Buying an intimate oil or a sex toy should be as mundane and shame-free as buying a face cream,” Goop’s editorial director, Kylie Gilbert, told The Post, adding that frank chats on sexual pleasure have been part of “Gwyneth’s vision of Goop from day one.” She notes that the Goop lube is a longtime bestseller.” * Goop lube is kind of the perfect name for lube though They Call it “Romance” While Normalizing Toxic Relationships “Perhaps the big hook for prestige porn is that it refuses to call itself porn at all. In press interviews for “Wicker,” both Colman and Skarsgård are careful to call the movie a “romance” despite its explicit content. “Industry” is described by HBO as a “gripping and provocative” drama despite its penchant for strap-ons and fellatio scenes. And the Nicole Kidman hit “Babygirl” features the Oscar winner on all fours, pretending to be a dog, licking candy out of her 20-something intern’s hand before getting thrashed in bed. Makówka, the sex therapist, says all this is pretty great. “A lot of people might have a curiosity of a power exchange dynamic —a dominant and submissive relationship that’s about leadership and surrender,” she said. “Films like these are giving a lot of people permission to get curious about asking, ‘What is it that I want? What have I not been seeking? Maybe it’s okay to seek this out.’ That is healthier, psychologically, for everyone. It makes people happier and more connected.” Tech devices don’t do that, says Makówka. “Good sex does.”” * I hard disagree on that; these shows and movies feature pretty toxic relationship dynamics * Also, the sex is extremely superfluous; it feels just like fan service. I watched Industry and had to fast forward through the sex scenes because they were so gross Episode Transcript Simone Collins:Hello, Malcolm. I’m excited to be speaking with you today because we have another episode of women are terrible. Malcolm Collins:Why do you always find these? Simone Collins:I literally have AI crawl the Internets for for stories for me. But this is, like, actually bad. I... Women are prestigifying porn, and they’re dating well into their eighties. And I feel like it’s a sign of the end times, and I’m going to explain why. Prestigifying porn. They’re prestigifying porn. And all Malcolm Collins:the dating into their eighties. You did It’s so gross. Gross tomorrow. Simone Collins:You’re gonna you’re gonna quir… This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit basedcamppodcast.substack.com/subscribe

  7. 30 Oct

    1M+ Sales & Movie: Leftist Malfoid is About Force Breeding Hermione Due to Demographic Collapse

    While our circles have been going hard on Malfoid fanfiction, progressive women have been having Malfoy fantasies of their own. Let’s just say they’re weirder—so weird we can’t resist but dive deeper and pull you down this debauched rabbit hole with us. We therefore invite you to join us today on Based Camp for a peek into the viral hit that is Alchemissed, a dark romantasy (or is it dark fantasy???) book that’s taking the female romantasy-reading world by storm and already being turned into a movie. It’s based on Manacled, a Harry Potter “dramione” fan fiction (a subset of Harry Potter fan fiction in which Draco and Hermione are paired) involving… well, let’s just say is kind of a version of Margaret Atwood’s A Handmaid’s Tail with plenty of nonconsensual you-know-what forced by followers of you-know-who that packs in necromancy, cannibalism, and plenty of other forms of gore, just for good measure. We explore the book’s enthusiastic fan response as well as the uncomfortable tension readers feel between their concept of romance and the dark realities that turn many of them on (not to mention the horror some Alchimissed readers experience upon realizing they purchased a book that was based on a Harry Potter fanfiction when, in these circles, JK Rowling = Bad Person for her status of TERF Queen). Show Notes Wrote E;R on X: “I’ve just learnt, while the boys are reading Malfoid rn, the girls were reading fanfic about Draco graping a mindwiped Hermione in a Handmaid’s Tale repopulation program and it was republished as a legally distinct dark romantasy called “Alchemised” that sold over a mil last year” Truly great responses ensued. But it’s actually worse than what ER said; here’s a Hollywood Reporter headline from September 10th: Big Deal: Legendary Pays 7 Figures for ‘Alchemised,’ Book That Began Life as ‘Harry Potter’ Fan Fiction (Exclusive) Google Alchemissed and you’ll get the following AI overview: “Overview and Plot • Premise: Set in the war-torn city-state of Paladia, the story follows former alchemist and healer Helena Marino. Awakening with two missing years of memory after a lost war, she is imprisoned on a crumbling estate and sent to the High Reeve, Kaine Ferron—a powerful, ruthless necromancer and former academic rival—while navigating a brutal Repopulation Programme under the High Necromancer, Morrough. • Length & Structure: The massive, 1,000+ page book is divided into a non-linear three-part narrative focused on trauma, memory, and systemic oppression. Genre and Tone • Dark Fantasy vs. Romantasy: While marketed and shelved by many readers alongside romantic fantasy due to its underlying emotional core and central relationship, the author, fans, and various critics emphasize that it is a harrowing, low-spice dark fantasy rather than a traditional romance. • Content Warning: The novel deals with extremely dark themes, heavy psychological distress, and war trauma, carrying extensive trigger warnings.” Reviews Both the good AND bad reviews are entertaining Some peeks at Goodreads, where it has 387,253 ratings and 69,345 reviews (I’m only including excerpts from much longer reviews) Some choice quotes from fan reviews: * Ana writes: “♾️ nothing will ever compare…” * Marianna Moore writes: “Infinity stars. Nobody talk to me for like 8-10 business months. I’m in severe emotional pain. Without out a doubt one of the best books I’ve ever read. God tier. Perfection. Nothing will ever compare but my god did it HURT. I have so many thoughts I cannot put into words right now.” * I found the trigger warnings from Angie’s five-star review (with 7,921 followers) to be particularly amusing: “Trigger Warnings: wartime violence, religious abuse, depictions of complex trauma, suicidal ideation, self-harm, PTSD, medical torture, eugenics, cannibalism, s3xual assault, r4pe, and allusion to necrophilia.” Negative Reviews The top complaints are (1) bad writing, (2) how dare you do anything related to Harry Potter written by Bad Woman JK Rowling and (3) being angry that trigger-warning-inducing subjects are actually a feature and not a bug in this incredibly popular romance novel. Even fans of the book admit the writing is bad. * In her four-star review, Emily May writes: “I have a lot of thoughts about this, the first being: for goodness sake, get an editor in here. Nothing needs to be this long. The second thought being: damn it, though, this was pretty good.” Writes Em: “DNF: This has the most egregious grammatical errors I have ever seen in a Del Ray, Random House published book. The prose structure is shockingly poor.” Writes emma: “read this in the same way nellie bly admitted herself to the asylum.” It’s a long review, but she later continues with: “i don’t read dark romance. i don’t like romantasy. i am a harry potter hater and when the protagonist in the book FANGIRL defends her right to submit knockoff hogwarts fanfiction to a TEACHER in a CLASS it makes me cringe so hard it could convert coal into diamonds. this is possibly the final boss of my reading career. this book has EVERYTHING, and by everything i mean every trigger warning. off the top of my head: violence, torture, sexual assault, necrophilia, execution, kidnapping, abuse, death, suicidal ideation, roofies, self-harm, forced pregnancy, war, racism, cannibalism, misogyny. it throws every edgy and dark subject a hot topic-shopping seventh grader could think of at you in the hopes you won’t notice it’s strung together with info dumps, cardboard cutout characters, and a dream. it moves from one violent seizure to the next physical attack to the next kys attempt at breakneck speed, so maybe you won’t figure out that even a copyeditor couldn’t make it through this book. or i guess we might have needed to read about helena being covered in dried blood every other page for three straight chapters.” Writes Noelia: “I was today years old when I found out that this was actually the trad-published version of a very popular Dramione fanfiction (apparently, Dramione fics have become a thing since my long-gone days as a hardcore Potterhead of the first dawn). But I was even more today years old when I learned about its controversies, mainly due to the presence of sexual assault scenes and its very problematic takes about it (I’ll come back to this later on, I promise).” She proceeds to write: “I wasn’t aware back then that I was setting myself up for the most traumatizing, discomforting and twisted story I’ve ever experienced as a reader. But also, and without a question, one of the poorest written and edited ones, making it the worst book I’ve read in my life, by MILES.” Sreegita: “EDIT : AS A SA VICTIM MYSELF, CAN Y’ALL PLS GET OFF MY ASS? how beautiful to see a fic where draco r@pes hermione is getting trad published meanwhile everyday actually talented bipoc and qpoc authors are struggling to get even a deal loveeeee to see r@pe fantasy books dominating the romance space!!!” Fan Response The fan response is unbelievable. You could scroll for ages on Tiktok going through it. There’s AI-generated fan art: Plus the reactions are top tier: Heated Debate Genre Quibbles Woman on Tiktok insists it’s a high-fantasy book focused on power, oppression, and women’s bodily autonomy. (2076 likes) I think the irony in this is that the subjects of power, oppression, and bodily autonomy are both super non-romantic AND major turn-ons for women. Why is Alchemised not a romantasy? : r/fantasyromance “I already had a hard time figuring out the difference between fantasy romance and romantasy but I think I got there. But now I’m hearing Alchemised is not a romance? It’s not romantasy? I’m just so confused. Now I’m over here reading that romance has to have a happy ending. The guy has to be nice?? Said who???? I would like to speak to the manager of romance about this please, who do I take my complaint to?” Top Responses: * “I just commented on another thread about this but I feel like there’s lots of fantasy that has romance that you’d never call a romantasy, like game of thrones or lo… This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit basedcamppodcast.substack.com/subscribe

  8. 29 Oct

    Halloween & The Colonization of Christian Holidays

    We examine the origins of Halloween traditions and show that none trace back to pagan practices. From trick-or-treating evolving out of pre-holiday door-to-door visits and caroling-style customs, to jack-o’-lanterns starting as practical turnip lanterns, every element developed within Christian communities. The video covers the history of All Saints Day, the role of Scottish and Irish folk customs, the commercialization through postcards and party goods in the early 1900s, and why modern associations with ghosts and the occult appeared centuries later. It also addresses common claims about Samhain and explains how the date and practices remained distinct from any earlier pagan observances. Episode Transcript Simone Collins:Hello, Malcolm Collins:Simone. I’m excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be busting the myth that the modern practice of Halloween has any meaningful pagan roots at all. Simone Collins:But I don’t know the the the pumpkins and the gourds and the lights and the the... You gotta scare away that? Malcolm Collins:Nothing traces back to anything pagan, and we will go through each thing with receipts. And it is going to shock, I think, a lot of people who have bought into this myth because it is a persistent myth, and it feels cool. Like, oh, I bet the pagans did something around that time, Speaker 4:My life has been a lie. God is dead. The government’s lame. Thanksgiving is about killing Indians. Jesus wasn’t born on Christmas. They moved the date. It was a pagan holiday. Simone Collins:and they’re in like, don’t Christian families say, well, we don’t celebrate Halloween because that’s a demonic holiday, etcetera. Malcolm Collins:They also say that about Christmas, and they say that about a a lot of things. So, it’s actually really fascinating as you get into it, where the various Halloween traditions come from. so for example, can you guess, the practice of trick or treating Is actually an evolution of another practice that was just something you did before any holiday, and there is another Simone Collins:evolution of Malcolm Collins:What? Okay. And what what was it? Describe it. Simone Collins:You, you get kinda drunk and you go from house to house and you ask for more, like, food and drink. Malcolm Collins:Okay. So you’re familiar with it. Yeah. So what would... Did there... The, the the practice that today we know is trick or treating is actually the exact same practice that we today know as caroling just evolved in two different directions, both practiced before two important Christian holidays. Simone Collins:Oh. Just, like, raid people’s house. It it just seems it seems like a very disturbing thing to have happened. Like, oh gosh. Malcolm Collins:They’re gonna So so what Simone’s... Oh, well, specifically, the iteration that you’re familiar with, the more aggressive one, is not a general British tradition. It came from the the... You can guess who, the backwards people, the lower Scottish reavers. In in in the in the normal version of this tradition, what you would do is before All Hallows’ Eve or All Saints Day, you would go door to door, and you would say, if you give me a treat, I will pray for your dead people. Oh. Right. I’ll I’ll pray for dead people in your family. A very Christian tradition, by the way. This is like a a thoroughly Christian tradition. But then the the backwards people who ended up becoming one of the dominant cultural groups in The United States that now form the the core of what we call Americana, they had a separate tradition where they would go and basically come to your house and be like, give us something or we’ll f up your property. And you see this captured in the, even even some traditional carols. Like, give us some figgy pudding. We won’t go until we get some. Simone Collins:Yeah. Malcolm Collins:so bring it right here. It’s it’s quite a forceful song if you if you listen to the lyrics. Simone Collins:Yeah. Yeah. It’s basically, yeah, give us, food and drink or you’re gonna regret it. Malcolm Collins:Yeah. Give us food and drink or you’re gonna regret it, which is exactly what the initial version of what we today think of as trick or treating was. and the other the other fun part of it is its association with ghosts and goblins and everything like that. That was created from the nineteen hundreds to, like, nineteen twenties primarily by, holiday card companies. And so you’d say, well, how did... Wait. Why were holiday card companies... Why did they associate those things with the holiday in the first place? Yeah. and there were two reasons. reason number one is... So if we look at the early Christian iteration of this holiday, you can see because it doesn’t begin to look more and more like a ghost and ghouls and go out and dress up day until very, very, very modern iterations of it. and and those iterations bear some resemblance to stuff that was practiced around this period, hundreds of years before the first Halloween was. The problem is is that the first Halloween didn’t include all of those elements that looked vaguely pagan. And because of that, you you can’t draw a connection between the pagan tradition and the first Halloween. But you could say, okay. Well, so how did it how did it get associated with the dead to begin with? Right. So it was originally a holiday for all saints. This is where it got the name All Saints Day. Simone Collins:Wait. Hold on, though. No. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t be the Catholic church and say, okay. Let’s just celebrate all the saints on one... Like, present’s day, and then be like, but then we also need a holiday for all the best saints. Malcolm Collins:Well... So it changed over time. But what is also have a president’s day. Come on. It was like the president’s day of saints because many saints didn’t have individual holidays. Simone Collins:Oh, so it was for all the other... It’s all other saints. Malcolm Collins:Well, including those saints. But then it evolved, and it became for all martyrs. Simone Collins:And then Oh, is that where some of the spookiness comes in? Malcolm Collins:For... No. It was for everyone who had martyred themselves on behalf of the church. Then much, much, much later, it became the holiday for all Christian dead people. Okay. Because they they basically... It was just sort of a cultural phenomenon that you can see. You sort of loosen it. Well, can we pray for this person to this day? Sure. Yeah. Why not? Simone Collins:Have a blast. Malcolm Collins:Looser and looser and looser and became a holiday for all dead people. and that’s where it got the death connection. But that death connection comes directly downstream of saints and then martyrs, which are very, very, very Christian ideas. Then you have the, well, then what about... What... Where did it get this occult connection? Where did it get this magic mysticism connection? This is actually one of its oldest traditions, still only dating to around the eighteen hundreds. Simone Collins:What? Malcolm Collins:But as a tradition, so long after anyone remembered anything pagan, it was actually, again, from the reavers or the Scottish people that this tradition was entered. And it was based around a number of ceremonies, I guess you could say, that people did as part of courtship rituals. Simone Collins:Wait. Wait. It’s not a courtship holiday. This is not a courtship holiday. Malcolm Collins:It actually had nothing to do with the holiday at all. The only reason the two became associated is because Halloween, given its time of year, it already was a holiday where people were doing, like, pranks and stuff like this, and you’d you’d have a a party. so it was a perfect time for young, rural, backwood Scottish people to do their courtship rituals. And that’s how the two became connected. They they weren’t, like, intrinsically linked at all. It was just a very convenient day to do this type of thing. Think of it like this. Like, a a hoe dance or something like this, which is like a tradi… This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit basedcamppodcast.substack.com/subscribe

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