ESPGHAN Podcast

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Stay updated with the latest developments in Paediatric Gastroenterology, Hepatology, and Nutrition (PGHN) and get to know the experts behind the research and our organisation. The official podcast of the European Society for Paediatric Gastroenterology, Hepatology and Nutrition (ESPGHAN) explores cutting-edge studies, practice management strategies, and more. Join us three times a month for insightful interviews and commentary with leading professionals in the field, designed to enhance your knowledge and advance your expertise. Our podcast features specialists from around the world, with a particular emphasis on the European community. This podcast is hosted by the ESPGHAN Education Committee. Disclaimer: Opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guest invited and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of ESPGHAN. These opinions are based on information and scientific data available at the time of recording and may change as research in the field advances. New Episodes 1st, 10th  and 20th of the Month. For feedback, contact us: office@espghan.org | Playlist: ESPGHAN favourite Songs can be found on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0YIHKjxITLEm9XNyHyypTo Producer: Selma Ertl, MBA | Host: Dr. Alex Knisely | Recording: Manuel Schuster

  1. Uhlig H.: monogenic IBD: diagnosis, treatment, transition

    4 DAYS AGO

    Uhlig H.: monogenic IBD: diagnosis, treatment, transition

    In 1990, Prof. Holm Uhlig entered the School of Medicine at the University of Leipzig – a city in Saxony with a long and turbulent history. The University, founded in 1409, had survived centuries of upheaval, including the Battle of Leipzig in 1813, when Napoleon’s forces were defeated and King Frederick Augustus I of Saxony was taken prisoner. Studying medicine in Leipzig during the 1990s meant navigating a period of significant transition following German reunification, yet Dr. Uhlig successfully completed his medical degree. Following his studies, he conducted research in paediatric immunology in Leipzig before spending three years at the Sir William Dunn School of Pathology in Oxford. He later returned to Leipzig to work in paediatrics from 2004 to 2010, then returned to Oxford, where he currently serves as Professor of Paediatric Gastroenterology and Director of the Centre for Human Genetics. Dr. Uhlig’s foundational work, completed during his first stay in Oxford, identified interleukin-23 as a key promoter of intestinal inflammation. This discovery has enabled the development of therapies targeting the alpha subunit of interleukin-23, modulating mucosal inflammatory activity. His team continues to unravel the complex pathophysiology of inflammatory bowel disease (IBD), using molecular-genetic analysis to identify monogenic contributions. Their ultimate goal is to develop genetics-based, patient-specific therapies. Dr. Uhlig suggests correlated reading (see below) and invites reflection on key questions: What is the genetic basis of inflammatory bowel disease? How can research in genetics and immunology improve patient care? What are the most exciting recent developments in the field? Literature Bolton C et al. An integrated taxonomy for monogenic inflammatory bowel disease. Gastroenterology. 2022 Mar;162(3):859-876. doi: 10.1053/j.gastro.2021.11.014. Epub 2021 Nov 13. PMID: 34780721. PMCID: PMC7616885; erratum, Gastroenterology. 2022 Jun;162(7):2143. doi: 10.1053/j.gastro.2022.04.007. Epub 2022 Apr 11. PMID: 35421357 Kammermeier J et al. Genomic diagnosis and care coordination for monogenic inflammatory bowel disease in children and adults: Consensus guideline on behalf of the British Society of Gastroenterology and British Society of Paediatric Gastroenterology, Hepatology and Nutrition. Lancet Gastroenterol Hepatol. 2023 Mar;8(3):271-286. doi: 10.1016/S2468-1253(22)00337-5. Epub 2023 Jan 9. PMID: 36634696 Griffin H et al. Neutralizing autoantibodies against interleukin-10 in inflammatory bowel disease. N Engl J Med. 2024 Aug 1;391(5):434-441. doi: 10.1056/NEJMoa2312302. PMID: 39083772. PMCID: PMC7616361 Prof Uhlig´s favourite song: J.S. Bach – Suite Nr. 1 für Violoncello Solo in G-Dur ESPGHAN favourite songs can be found on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0YIHKjxITLEm9XNyHyypTo

    20 min
  2. 5 FEB

    JPGN Journal Club: March 2026: Biomarkers and Risk Stratification for Varices in Children with Portal Hypertension

    A round of applause, dear readers: We’ve made it into, good Heavens, 2026! Breasted the tape? Or limped across the finish line? No matter. To mis-quote Scripture, that is of course Stephen Sondheim: We’re still here. Among the “we,” and our lodestar, is Dr Jake Mann. He’s selected two articles for consideration: From Jezequel M et al., in work done at Lille, J Pediatr Gastroenterol Nutr brings us – Splenic stiffness does not predict esophageal varices in children with portal hypertension; and from a cluster of Parisian institutions, by Grimaud E et al. and published in Hepatology – Serum bile acid levels predict the development of portal hypertension and high-risk esophageal varices following successful Kasai in biliary atresia. In short: How to foretell the variceal future. What sorts of cohorts were assembled, and what data were collected? How were those data analysed? All-comers in Lille, in Paris persons with a certain disorder treated in a certain way with a certain age and meeting certain clinical criteria… A lot to sort out here, and the comparisons and contrasts are better listened to than read, you’ll agree. Or: Back to Sondheim, in the tale of Sweeney Todd, the demon barber of Fleet Street, who shaved the faces of gentlemen / Who never thereafter were heard of again… What happened next?Well, that’s the play –And he wouldn’t want us to give it away. Happy listening! Enjoy ESPGHAN Journal Club – enjoy the play! Literature Grimaud E et al. Serum bile acid levels predict the development of portal hypertension and high-risk esophageal varices following successful Kasai in biliary atresia. Hepatology 2025 Oct 23. DOI: 10.1097/HEP.0000000000001592. Online ahead of print. PMID: 41129338 Jezequel M et al. Splenic stiffness does not predict esophageal varices in children with portal hypertension. J Pediatr Gastroenterol Nutr 2026 Jan; 82(1):156–164. DOI: 10.1002/jpn3.70247. Epub 2025 Oct 27. PMID: 41144851. PMCID: PMC12780471

    23 min
  3. Strozyk A.: Food Ladder

    20 JAN

    Strozyk A.: Food Ladder

    Dr. Agata Stróżyk, a dietitian at the Medical University of Warsaw, shared her expertise on the “food ladder” in both theory and practice, providing insights for clinicians, patients, and families. She addresses questions such as: Could you explain what a food ladder is? What steps does a child typically go through during the food ladder process? What are the key benefits of milk and egg reintroduction for patients and families? What positive outcomes do you observe clinically? At the same time, what are the most common barriers and facilitators to successful reintroduction, and how important is it to monitor each step of the ladder carefully to ensure safety and build confidence in both the child and the caregivers? As a dietitian, what practical advice would you give to clinicians conducting an oral food challenge with baked milk or egg? For example, how can existing recipes be adapted to match a child’s individual food preferences or their stage of oral-motor development? What would you suggest if a child with a food allergy is also a picky eater or has multiple food allergies – such as to both milk and wheat? Below are references she has selected to guide listeners in addressing these questions. Literature Venter C et al. Better recognition, diagnosis and management of non-IgE-mediated cow's milk allergy in infancy: iMAP – an international interpretation of the MAP (Milk Allergy in Primary Care) guideline. Clin Transl Allergy. 2017 Aug 23;7:26. doi: 10.1186/s13601-017-0162-y. eCollection 2017. PMID: 28852472; cf. also Correction to: Venter C et al. Better recognition, diagnosis and management of non-IgE-mediated cow's milk allergy in infancy: iMAP – an international interpretation of the MAP (Milk Allergy in Primary Care) guideline. Clin Transl Allergy. 2018 Jan 25;8:4. doi: 10.1186/s13601-017-0189-0. eCollection 2018. PMID: 29416848 Meyer R et al. World Allergy Organization (WAO) Diagnosis and Rationale for Action against Cow's Milk Allergy (DRACMA) Guideline update – VII: Milk elimination and reintroduction in the diagnostic process of cow's milk allergy. World Allergy Organ J. 2023 Jul 24;16(7):100785. doi: 10.1016/j.waojou.2023.100785. eCollection 2023 Jul. PMID: 37546235. PMCID: PMX10401347 Gibson V et al. Barriers and enablers of dietary reintroduction following negative oral food challenge: A scoping review. J Allergy Clin Immunol Pract. 2025 Apr;13(4):851-860.e7. doi: 10.1016/j.jaip.2025.01.012. Epub 2025 Jan 17. PMID: 39828135 Dr. Stróżyk´s favourite song is: Małomiasteczkowy - Dawid Podsiadło ESPGHAN favourite songs can be found on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0YIHKjxITLEm9XNyHyypTo

    22 min
  4. Malmberg E.: Celiac disease

    10 JAN

    Malmberg E.: Celiac disease

    Your ESPGHAN podcast team are collecting expertise from as many learnèd, skilled, and experienced paediatric gastroenterologists and hepatologists as possible! Oh, and from dietitians… they’re among the most important links in the chain between gastroenterologist and the universal goal – a healthy child and a happy family. Today’s note accompanies an encounter with Dr Elin Malmberg Hård af Segerstad, whose principal interests lie in the origins and management of the immune dysregulation manifest as coeliac disease. In a person with an inherited susceptibility to coeliac disease, what triggers the development of that disease? Can triggers be avoided, and if so, how? After diagnosis and treatment, how can a patient with coeliac disease be monitored for compliance with dietary regimens? Who is best positioned to monitor such patients? Dr Hård af Segerstad poses questions on three points as an armature for discussion: What rôle does diet play in the development of coeliac disease in children? Can dietary modifications prevent coeliac disease? How can gluten-free diet adherence be best assessed in children with coeliac disease? How does clinical practice at present fall short in this regard? What is the rôle of the dietitian in the management of coeliac disease in children? Should all children with coeliac disease have access to an experienced dietitian? In addressing these questions, she builds on three articles listed below – consensus summaries of best practice. But she also goes into detail on particular aspects of dietetic care not covered in those articles, so listen carefully! LiteratureMearin ML et al. ESPGHAN position paper on management and follow-up of children and adolescents with celiac disease. J Pediatr Gastroenterol Nutr 2022 Sep 1; 75(3):369–386.Doi: 10.1097/MPG.0000000000003540. Epub 2022 Jun 27. PMID: 35758521 Luque V et al. Gluten-free diet for pediatric patients with coeliac disease: A position paper from the ESPGHAN gastroenterology committee, special interest group in coeliac disease. J Pediatr Gastroenterol Nutr 2024 Apr; 78(4):973–995.Doi: 10.1002/jpn3.12079. Epub 2024 Jan 30. PMID: 38291739 Szajewska H et al. Early diet and the risk of coeliac disease: An update 2024 position paper by the ESPGHAN special interest group on coeliac disease. J Pediatr Gastroenterol Nutr 2024 Aug; 79(2):438–445.Doi: 10.1002/jpn3.12280. Epub 2024 Jun 7. PMID: 38847232 Dr. Malmberg´s favourite song: Måns Zelmerlöw - Heroes ESPGHAN favourite songs can be found on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0YIHKjxITLEm9XNyHyypTo

    22 min
  5. JPGN Journal Club January 2026: Coeliac Disease - Current Evidence on Therapy and Diagnosis

    31/12/2025

    JPGN Journal Club January 2026: Coeliac Disease - Current Evidence on Therapy and Diagnosis

    Hark! It’s midnight, children dear –Duck! Here comes another year! Well, readers, when this reaches you perhaps we shall all be in 2026, perhaps not; whichever, the New Year’s Eve couplet above may amuse you as you look backward, or forward, and… but who says that time has to be linear? Very twentieth-century idea, that – we’ve made progress since then. In any case, whenever this is, here we are. ESPGHAN Journal Club isn’t like the seasons, like the years, going around and around and enough to make your head spin. Journal Club instead has one fixed, unmoving point around which everything revolves. Yes: the ultra-stable Dr Jake Mann. What has Ol’ Reliable, as he’s nicknamed, selected for us today? Coeliac disease (CD) is on Jake’s menu – how to diagnose it, how to treat it. Treatment first. In Alimentary Pharmacology & Therapeutics, by Risnes LF et al., writing from a handful of institutions in Oslo: Teriflunomide does not affect gluten-specific T-cell activity in coeliac disease – a randomised, placebo-controlled trial; and then, in a blatant attempt to reduce histopathologists and endoscopists to diagnostic irrelevance and grinding poverty, from Journal of Pediatric Gastroenterology and Nutrition, by Mandile R et al., working in Naples and Rotterdam: A set of serum proteomic biomarkers differentiates celiac children from age- and human leukocyte antigen-matched healthy controls. What, or who, is teriflunomide (“but you can call me Teri”)? Teri is an inhibitor of nuclear factor kappa–light-chain-enhancer of activated B cells (NF-κB), and she’s cytotoxic, albeit not very, which makes her valuable in dampening inflammatory activity. Teri can make activated T cells, in particular, go off the boil, which has won her a rôle in the treatment of multiple sclerosis. Risnes et al. hypothesised that she could usefully be deployed in CD. To test this in 15 children with treated CD, Risnes and co-workers fed Teri to 10 and placebo to 5 for a week, after which a gluten challenge – a slice of white bread daily for three days – was administered, with Teri continued until the end of the second week. Serum levels of interleukin-2, an acute-response indicator, were determined in samples taken four hours after the first slice of white bread was eaten. On Day 15 of the study, eight days from the first day of the challenge, the team counted gluten-specific CD4+ T cells in blood (detected by HLA-DQ2.5:gluten tetramers) that bore the activation marker CD38, a longer-term response indicator, as well as CD103+CD38+ gut-homing CD8+ T cells and γδ T cells. Gluten challenge evoked substantial acute and longer-term inflammatory responses, but Teri administration yielded no difference between cohorts in values for any analyte. Theseus in shadow, patting his way forward; at the end of the corridor, another doorless wall. The darkness, and the stench of the Minotaur, and the sick realisation – I must go back and try again. Risnes et al. have taken the Teri turning, have explored another arm of the labyrinth of how to modulate, how to understand, inflammation in CD, and met with not a doorless wall exactly; instead, a possibility assessed and found wanting. That is something. We learn that one set of ideas about CD is falsifiable. That is even something interesting. But the chagrin of acknowledging that we must go back and try again? We are Theseus. Still in the CD labyrinth with Jake’s other choice; what is that at our feet? Bend, pick up, feel the embossed letters – χτῆμα Ἀριάδνης; “property of Ariadne”. Part-unreeled, a spool of thread! This may actually get us somewhere. Indeed, Mandile et al., our collective daughter of Minos, have sorted through serum biomarkers of inflammation and have given us a clew worth following, perhaps toward light and freedom. That is, toward non-invasive diagnosis in CD that requires neither endoscopy nor mucosal biopsy. Assessments of the proteome in mucosal biopsy specimens have shown certain patterns of increases in inflammation-pathway members; Mandile et al. reviewed relative abundances of 92 such analytes in sera from 100 paediatric patients – 50 with active CD (45 documented by histopathologic study of biopsy specimens, 5 by high titres of anti-tissue transglutaminase antibodies [anti-TTA]) and 50 with HLA-DQ2/DQ8 “at-risk” phenotypes who did not have clinically manifest CD and who did not develop such CD over the nine years after serum sampling. The subjects were age-matched cohort to cohort and of similar ethnic background. Three different statistical sievings yielded seven proteins (CASP8, CXCL9, NT-3, SIRT2, STAMBP, ST1A1, and TNFSF14) that, when present in abundance, distinguished approximately 90% of CD children from non-CD children. Current algorithms for diagnosis of CD, unless anti-TTA titres are very high, require endoscopy and mucosal biopsy with demonstration in the biopsy specimen of certain features. Might demonstration of a serum protein-abundance pattern like that determined to mark CD in the patients of Mandile et al. obviate endoscopy and biopsy in other patients? To answer that question will require confirmation of this study’s findings in other cohorts of other ethnicities. Those are likely already under way. Even now, Theseus is rapidly rolling thread from the labyrinth’s floor onto Ariadne’s spool, following the clew toward a brighter future with many fewer invasive procedures in CD patients. Phlebotomy instead of endoscopy and biopsy; insights from cytokinome work into mechanisms of inflammation in CD; remarkable progress! Even with immiseration looming, paediatric endoscopists and histopathologists must concur in this assessment of what Mandile et al. have contributed with this study. Literature Mandile R et al. A set of serum proteomic biomarkers differentiates celiac children from age- and human leukocyte antigen-matched healthy controls. J Pediatr Gastroenterol Nutr. 2025 Nov 20. doi: 10.1002/jpn3.70261. Online ahead of print. PMID: 41263022. Risnes LF et al. Research communication: Teriflunomide does not affect gluten-specific T-cell activity in coeliac disease – a randomised, placebo-controlled trial. Aliment Pharmacol Ther. 2025 Nov;62(10):1027–1031. doi: 10.1111/apt.70301. Epub 2025 Jul 27. PMID: 41124699.

    22 min
  6. Homan M & Giamouris V.:  three tricky cases along the new HP guideline

    20/12/2025

    Homan M & Giamouris V.:  three tricky cases along the new HP guideline

    Young ESPGHAN is on a roll! Today one of that group, a representative on the Education Committee, tries his hand at podcast interviewing: Dr Vangelis Giamouris was granted his medical degree at the University of Thessaly, trained in paediatrics in Athens at the Agia Sofia Children’s Hospital, and at present works at King’s College Hospital (London). He offers three clinical scenarios that involve Helicobacter pylori disease to Prof Dr Matjaž Homan for his perspective on diagnosis and treatment, in particular deployment of antibiotics. Prof Homan trained in Slovenia, taking his medical degree in Ljubljana, and has conducted academic work on H. pylori both there and in Zagreb (Croatia). He now in Ljubljana is the deputy director of the University Children’s Hospital. In his comments on Dr Giamouris’ clinical vignettes he illustrates the principles set out in the recently updated ESPGHAN / NASPGHAN guidelines for physicians addressing H. pylori disease – guidelines for which he was the foremost reviser, and which are cited below. LiteratureHoman M et al. Updated joint ESPGHAN / NASPGHAN guidelines for management of Helicobacter pylori infection in children and adolescents (2023). J Pediatr Gastroenterol Nutr 2024 Sep; 79(3):758-785. Doi: 10.1002/jpn3.12314. Epub 2024 Aug 15. PMID: 39148213 Dr. Homan´s favourite song: John Lennon - Give Peace a chance ESPGHAN favourite Songs can be found on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0YIHKjxITLEm9XNyHyypTo

    22 min
  7. Bradley K.: ARFID

    10/12/2025

    Bradley K.: ARFID

    Greetings from Helsinki, where your ESPGHAN podcast team have taken the opportunity to buttonhole for interviews as many learnèd, skilled, and experienced paediatric gastroenterologists and hepatologists as possible! We haven’t forgotten the allied professions, mind you; this note accompanies for you an encounter recorded at the 2025 ESPGHAN Annual Meeting with Dr Kathryn Bradley, a clinical psychologist expert in Avoidant/Restrictive Food Intake Disorder (ARFID). Her work in “picky eating” is not her only credential in paediatric gastroenterology, hepatology, and nutrition: she is the mother of a child with total colonic aganglionosis, a lived experience on which she draws in counselling and treatment of children who, unlike most of us, cannot eat and drink unthinkingly... and of their families. In this podcast, she addresses these three questions: What are the key signs that distinguish ARFID from typical “picky eating” or other eating disorders? How does ARFID affect a child's physical and mental health, and what are the long-term consequences if children and families are left without support? What evidence-based approaches can be used to support a child/family with ARFID and which professionals should be involved? In addressing these questions, she builds on two articles — gateways into resources to be consulted as caregivers encounter ARFID: LiteratureBryant-Waugh R et al. Towards an evidence-based out-patient care pathway for children and young people with avoidant restrictive food intake disorder.J Behav Cogn Ther 2021; 31:15–26. (Non-indexed article) Sanchez-Cerezo J et al. What do we know about the epidemiology of avoidant/restrictive food intake disorder in children and adolescents? A systematic review of the literature.Eur Eat Disord Rev 2023 Mar; 31(2):226–246.DOI: 10.1002/erv.2964 | Epub: 2022 Dec 16 | PMID: 36527163 | PMCID: PMC10108140 Dr. Bradley´s favourite song: Oasis - She is electric  ESPGHAN favourite Songs can be found on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0YIHKjxITLEm9XNyHyypTo

    20 min
  8. JPGN Journal Club December 2025: Paediatric IBD: Vedolizumab Outcomes & PSC-IBD Histopathology

    01/12/2025

    JPGN Journal Club December 2025: Paediatric IBD: Vedolizumab Outcomes & PSC-IBD Histopathology

    Happy holidays, everyone! The end of the year… twilight falls in mid-afternoon, there’s frost on the windscreen of a morning, and between mince pies and gingerbread, the supermarket aisles are an absolute menace. But there’s hope: ESPGHAN Journal Club is here to educate, to inform, and to keep you out of trouble – whilst you’re with us you’re not flexing those credit cards, are you? Here today is Dr Jake Mann with what he thinks we should know. Jake has chosen two variations on a theme: IBD, or inflammatory bowel disease. From Lancet Gastroenterol Hepatol, by Atia O et al., in a collaboration that pinballs all over the map, from Jerusalem to Philadelphia to Ljubljana and beyond – Maintenance treatment with vedolizumab in paediatric inflammatory bowel disease (VEDOKIDS): 54-week outcomes of a multicentre, prospective, cohort study. Well! That will keep clinician listeners happy; and then, throwing your interviewer a histopathologic bone, from J Pediatr Gastroenterol Nutr, by Little R et al., of Toronto’s Hospital for Sick Children and the University of Toronto – Intestinal histopathology in pediatric PSC-IBD: Characterization of phenotype and assessment of the Nancy Index. Vedolizumab – to its friends, Entyvio – is a monoclonal antibody that blocks the dimer LPAM-1, or lymphocyte Peyer’s patch adhesion molecule, more formally known as integrin α4β7. Blocking integrin α4β7 selectively dampens gut inflammation. Entyvio use has been approved in adults with IBD unresponsive to tumour necrosis factor blockade (adalimumab, infliximab, etc.) or to corticosteroids, or who are steroid-dependent. Formal approval for use in children has not been given, but, faute de mieux, it is deployed anyhow, with good results in two prospective studies of short-term use. Reports of long-term use in children, again with good results, exist, but they are not prospective. The study by Atia et al. has addressed this, with assessment at baseline and after 2 wk, 6 wk, 14 wk, 30 wk, and 54 wk of administration in a 137-member cohort assembled over 6 y. Efficacy of Entyvio against paediatric IBD is good, with few adverse effects (week 54: complete remission, 25% of children with Crohn disease and 47% of children with ulcerative colitis). Noteworthy are that ulcerative-colitis patients responded better than did Crohn-disease patients and that response by 6 wk or 14 wk predicted sustained response – the latter observation suggests that failure to respond to the dosage regimen used in the studied patients may warrant adjustment of that regimen. In sum, the study supports longer-term use of Entyvio in children with IBD. One wonders what genetic quirks may correlate with good or poor early response to Entyvio. Perhaps the samples to answer this question are in someone’s freezers… Medicine wants desperately to be scientific, and believes with all its heart that quantification means Science. From this – well, is it a fallacy? Opinions will vary – from this stance, at any rate, this stance that holds that without a Number evaluation is, as Science, inadequate, derive protocols for grading, and for staging, and for scoring. In histopathologic work these are beautifully suited to retrospective studies, studies in which one person at one time evaluates a large cohort of specimens using detailed criteria, with grade and stage and score interacting to yield Numbers. Are the resulting Numbers reliable? Does the same histopathologist’s work yield the same Numbers every time for the same specimens (“intraoperator variation”)? Does different histopathologists’ work yield the same Numbers every time for the same specimens (“interoperator variation”)? Can Numbers for different specimens obtained from the same patient at different times by different individual histopathologists be trusted to reflect evolution in that patient’s disease – “She was a Seven a year ago, as scored by Joe, on treatment she’s now a Six, as scored by Mary, so the therapy must be working”? Perhaps artificial intelligence, applied universally, will prove its worth in such settings. To mis-quote Tolkien: One programme to rule them all,one programme and no more,one programme to read them alland uniformly score. Toward the value of grading, staging, and scoring outside a retrospective study, however – that is, in everyday service work performed non-uniformly by a variety of humans – scepticism seems appropriate. In IBD, several scoring systems have been proposed, and modified, and used. (That several exist bears witness to the inadequacy of all.) Easiest to deploy is that proposed by workers in Nancy (France), the “Nancy index”. Little et al. conducted Nancy indexing in endoscopic mucosal-biopsy specimens from children with IBD associated with primary sclerosing cholangitis (PSC; 50 subjects) and with IBD independent of PSC (81 subjects), proceeding from observations that the clinical and endoscopic features of IBD tout court and of PSC-IBD vary. In the setting of their retrospective study, “Nancy index” values were reproducible between observers – to some extent trustworthy Numbers, then – and differences existed between histopathologic findings in the two cohorts, suggesting a PSC-IBD histopathologic phenotype. This is not surprising; if rectal sparing, predominantly right-sided colonic inflammation, and “backwash” ileitis clinically and endoscopically characterise PSC-IBD, some sort of histopathologic counterpart to inflammation or to the lack thereof can be expected. Of note, however, is that three features – lamina-propria neutrophil-leucocyte infiltration, eosinophil-leucocyte infiltration, and surface villiform change – were more prominent in PSC-IBD. Perhaps these aspects, not addressed in the grading, staging, and scoring systems used generally in IBD, should be given attention in paediatric IBD patients, and perhaps they point toward pathophysiologic differences between IBD and PSC-IBD that are worth study. Whether Nancy indexing, or modified paediatric-IBD Nancy indexing, will yield Numbers that convey detailed, both diagnostically and prognostically salient information in prospective work, or in routine clinical care, is still very much an open question. Literature Atia O et al. Maintenance treatment with vedolizumab in paediatric inflammatory bowel disease (VEDOKIDS): 54-week outcomes of a multicentre, prospective, cohort study. Lancet Gastroenterol Hepatol 2025 Mar;10(3):234-247. Doi: 10.1016/S2468-1253(24)00319-4. Epub 2025 Jan 6. PMID: 39788134 Little R et al. Intestinal histopathology in pediatric PSC-IBD: Characterization of phenotype and assessment of the Nancy Index. J Pediatr Gastroenterol Nutr 2025 Feb;80(2):290-299. Doi: 10.1002/jpn3.12434. Epub 2024 Dec 17. PMID: 39690834. PMCID: PMC11788967

    24 min

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Stay updated with the latest developments in Paediatric Gastroenterology, Hepatology, and Nutrition (PGHN) and get to know the experts behind the research and our organisation. The official podcast of the European Society for Paediatric Gastroenterology, Hepatology and Nutrition (ESPGHAN) explores cutting-edge studies, practice management strategies, and more. Join us three times a month for insightful interviews and commentary with leading professionals in the field, designed to enhance your knowledge and advance your expertise. Our podcast features specialists from around the world, with a particular emphasis on the European community. This podcast is hosted by the ESPGHAN Education Committee. Disclaimer: Opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guest invited and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of ESPGHAN. These opinions are based on information and scientific data available at the time of recording and may change as research in the field advances. New Episodes 1st, 10th  and 20th of the Month. For feedback, contact us: office@espghan.org | Playlist: ESPGHAN favourite Songs can be found on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0YIHKjxITLEm9XNyHyypTo Producer: Selma Ertl, MBA | Host: Dr. Alex Knisely | Recording: Manuel Schuster