Product Driven

Matt Watson

Building software products requires caring more about the product than it does the technology used to build the product. On this podcast, we discuss bringing a product driven mindset to every step of the product development process.

  1. Creative Engineering at Scale: What Big Companies Get Wrong (and Right) with David Mitchell

    13 NOV

    Creative Engineering at Scale: What Big Companies Get Wrong (and Right) with David Mitchell

    What happens when you mix creative agency chaos with world-class engineering? You get teams that don’t just write code—they own the product. In this episode, I’m talking with David Mitchell, CTO at VML, one of the biggest creative agencies on the planet. With thousands of engineers and global clients like Wendy’s and United Rentals, David’s teams are building things that most devs only dream of—and doing it without getting buried in bureaucracy. We break down what it really takes to foster creative engineering inside a massive org, how to keep engineers out of the ticket-taking trap, and how AI is reshaping what engineering leadership actually looks like. If you lead teams and want to stop micromanaging, or if you're just tired of pretending Agile is still helping... this one’s for you. ⏱️ Episode Breakdown[00:15] — What is a "creative engineer" and why don’t we have more of them? [06:00] — Why software engineering should be creative work [07:40] — The evolution of engineering: From basement coders to business thinkers [11:20] — Ownership vs. ticket-taking: How VML trains teams to lead [13:30] — Journey-Driven Development and the myth of “API-first” [20:45] — Is AI changing how we build software—or just hyped? [24:00] — Hackathons, prototyping, and the rise of “vibe engineering” Links & ResourcesConnect with David on LinkedIn Product Driven - Get the Book Subscribe to the Product Driven Newsletter What Smart CTOs Are Doing Differently With Offshore Teams in 2025 Subscribe to the Global Talent Sprint Full Scale – Build your dev team quickly and affordably If you’re trying to get your team out of the basement and into real product ownership, this episode is your playbook. Stop being a ticket factory. Build teams that think, create, and lead. Follow the show, rate it, and send this to someone who’s still trying to do “real Scrum.” They need it more than you do.

    33 min
  2. How AI Is Really Impacting Developer Experience and the Real Productivity Problem with Laura Tacho

    21 AUG

    How AI Is Really Impacting Developer Experience and the Real Productivity Problem with Laura Tacho

    In this episode, Matt is joined by Laura Tacho, CTO at DX — one of the leading voices in developer experience research and tooling. Together, they unpack how AI is really affecting software development teams, why developer experience has a “marketing problem,” and why organizational friction — not technology — is the biggest productivity killer. If you’ve been wondering whether AI is living up to the hype in engineering teams, this conversation will give you the data, the reality, and the leadership takeaways you can act on today. Key Discussion PointsKey Discussion Points [01:21] – What “Developer Experience” Really Means [03:28] – The Real Sources of Developer Friction [04:20] – Core Developer Experience Problems (Pre- and Post-AI) [06:19] – Clarity as a Competitive Advantage [08:58] – The Mistake of “Shit Shielding” [08:51] – How AI Raises the Stakes for Product Thinking [10:33] – The 10x Developer Myth’s Real Origin [12:03] – Measuring Developer Experience with the DX Index [14:33] – The Role of Leadership in Removing Friction Resources & Links  DX – Research and tools for improving developer experience: https://getdx.com/ Developer Experience Index  https://getdx.com/dxi-reporting Subscribe to the Product Driven Newsletter: https://productdriven.com/newsletter What Smart CTOs Are Doing Differently With Offshore Teams in 2025: https://hirefullscale.com/offshore-hiring-guide

    30 min
  3. Why We Still Need Software Engineers in the Age of AI with Brian Jenney

    14 AUG

    Why We Still Need Software Engineers in the Age of AI with Brian Jenney

    AI can scaffold an app in seconds, but can it refactor that thousand-line React file when the first bug hits production?  In this episode, I sit down with Brian Jenney software engineer and program owner of the coding bootcamp Parsity, to draw a hard line between “code that runs” and “code that lasts.” From mentoring career-switchers to stress-testing AI in real-world pipelines, Brian shares why craftsmanship and product judgment still beat copy-paste prompts. 🔗 Essential Links (Start Here!): Full Episodes: https://product-driven.captivate.fm/episodes Connect with Matt Watson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwatsonkc/ Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://newsletter.productdriven.com/ Powered by Full Scale: https://fullscale.io/ GET THE PRODUCT DRIVEN BOOK: https://productdriven.com/book Connect with Brian on LinkedIn :https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianjenney/ Check out Parsity here: https://www.parsity.io/ Key Discussion Points: “You have to be smarter than the AI.” Why blindly shipping generated code is the fastest way to paint yourself into a technical-debt corner The hidden risk of non-deterministic models—like failing a simple “greater-than” check in production tests A training rule of thumb: no AI for your first months of study, then use it only to reinforce fundamentals—not replace them The “house-of-cards” analogy for code quality and why maintainability still matters when AI writes the first draft How Parsity’s tight-knit model turns plumbers, teachers, and even doctors into disciplined, product-minded engineers

    30 min
  4. Simple Systems that Let CTOs Delegate Ownership—and Still Sleep at Night with Brittany Rastsmith

    7 AUG

    Simple Systems that Let CTOs Delegate Ownership—and Still Sleep at Night with Brittany Rastsmith

    If you’re running a startup, chances are you’re the bottleneck.  Brittany Rastsmith joins Product Driven to talk through why founders constantly end up in this trap and how to escape it. She works with early-stage companies through her consulting firm, Bloom Remote, and she's seen it all. We get into how to create clarity, visibility, and accountability across your team so you’re not stuck answering every question, solving every problem, or staying up all night wondering if anything is getting done.  If you want your team to take ownership and drive outcomes—not just check boxes—this episode is for you. [01:36] - Why being the bottleneck it's a stage [03:06] - Choose your hard: micromanage or build trust [08:06] - How to measure what matters [11:06] - Delegating doesn't work if you dump chaos [15:06] - Explain your thinking if you want your team to carry it out [16:36] - The power of decision logs and written rationale [20:21] - Why psychological safety is key to team ownership [22:06] - Rubber-stamping is the death of progress [24:36] - Why most managers are untrained (and why that matters) [28:36] - Productivity vs. busyness: where your team might be stuck [29:51] - Inputs vs. outcomes: how to tell what's actually broken [31:41] - Where to find Brittany and learn more about Bloom Remote Links & Resources: Brittany Rastsmith on LinkedIn:  Bloom Remote Get the Book: https://mybook.to/productdriven Newsletter: productdriven.com Connect with Matt: https://linkedin.com/in/mattwatson Get the Offshore Hiring Guide: https://hirefullscale.com/offshore-hiring-guide

    33 min

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Building software products requires caring more about the product than it does the technology used to build the product. On this podcast, we discuss bringing a product driven mindset to every step of the product development process.