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The GOTO podcast seeks out the brightest and boldest ideas from language creators and the world's leading experts in software development in the form of interviews and conference talks. Tune in to get the inspiration you need to bring in new technologies or gain extra evidence to support your software development plan.

  1. Beyond the Hype: What AI Actually Can (and Can't) Do • Jodie Burchell & Michelle Frost

    17 HR AGO

    Beyond the Hype: What AI Actually Can (and Can't) Do • Jodie Burchell & Michelle Frost

    This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. https://gotopia.tech Jodie Burchell - Senior Data Science Developer Advocate at JetBrains Michelle Frost - AI Advocate at JetBrains Check out more here: https://gotopia.tech/articles/431 RESOURCES Jodie https://bsky.app/profile/t-redactyl.bsky.social https://fosstodon.org/@t_redactyl https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodieburchell https://github.com/t-redactyl https://t-redactyl.io Michelle https://bsky.app/profile/aiwithmichelle.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-frost-dev https://aiwithmichelle.com Links https://www.youtube.com/@Asianometry https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.01547 https://softwareengineeringproductivity.stanford.edu DESCRIPTION Michelle Frost and Jodie Burchell - both developer advocates at JetBrains — sit down for a candid, wide-ranging conversation about the state of AI. Drawing on Jodie's unusual path from clinical psychology to biostatistics to NLP, and Michelle's background in machine learning fairness and AI ethics consulting, the two offer a measured, research-grounded perspective on generative AI's real capabilities and limitations. They trace historical parallels between today's AI boom and earlier 'AI summers,' unpack the contested definitions of AI and AGI, make the case for why foundational machine learning knowledge still matters, and examine what the evidence actually says about AI's impact on developer productivity. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Mark Coeckelbergh • AI Ethics • https://amzn.to/3SuXUbY Debbie Sue Jancis • AI Ethics • https://amzn.to/44yuEbR Alex Castrounis • AI for People and Business • https://amzn.to/3NYKKTo Phil Winder • Reinforcement Learning • https://amzn.to/3t1S1VZ Bluesky Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    30 min
  2. Kubernetes at the Edge • Charles Humble & Hannah Foxwell

    3 DAYS AGO

    Kubernetes at the Edge • Charles Humble & Hannah Foxwell

    This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club. http://gotopia.tech/bookclub Check out more here: https://gotopia.tech/episodes/432 Hannah Foxwell - Independent Consultant & Founder of "AI for the rest of us" Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant RESOURCES Charles https://bsky.app/profile/charleshumble.bsky.social https://linkedin.com/in/charleshumble https://mastodon.social/@charleshumble https://conissaunce.com Hannah https://bsky.app/profile/hannahfoxwell.net https://medium.com/@hannahfoxwell https://x.com/HannahFoxwell https://github.com/hannahfoxwell https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-foxwell Links https://conissaunce.com/services.html https://www.aifortherestofus.co/newsletter https://conissaunce.com/music.html https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0ynenr1eno DESCRIPTION Hannah Foxwell sits down with Charles Humble - speaker, advisor, podcast host, and author - to explore his e-book "Kubernetes at the Edge". They cover what "edge computing" actually means, why it matters across industries from precision agriculture to healthcare and retail, how to approach vendor selection and day-two operations, and why sustainability must be central to how we build and deploy technology. The conversation closes with a frank and thoughtful discussion about the responsibilities of the tech industry in the age of generative AI. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Charles Humble • Kubernetes at the Edge • https://www.conissaunce.com/kubernetes-edge-ebook Charles Humble • Professional Skills for Software Engineers • https://conissaunce.com/professional-skills-shortcut Charles Humble • The Developer's Guide to Cloud Infrastructure, Efficiency & Sustainability • https://conissaunce.com/sustainability-ebook Bluesky Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    1 hr
  3. Every Software Org is Dysfunctional • R. Parsons, G. Hohpe, B. O'Reilly & A. Harmel-Law

    17 APR

    Every Software Org is Dysfunctional • R. Parsons, G. Hohpe, B. O'Reilly & A. Harmel-Law

    This presentation was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025. https://gotocph.com Rebecca Parsons - CTO Emerita at Thoughtworks Gregor Hohpe - Author of "Platform Strategy", "The Software Architect Elevator", et al. Barry O'Reilly - Founder at Black Tulip Tech and Author of "Residues" & "The Architect's Paradox" Andrew Harmel-Law - Technical Principal at Thoughtworks & Author of "Facilitating Software Architecture" RESOURCES Rebecca https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-parsons-871491 https://twitter.com/rebeccaparsons Gregor https://twitter.com/ghohpe https://www.linkedin.com/in/ghohpe http://eaipatterns.com https://architectelevator.com Barry https://bsky.app/profile/technologytulip.bsky.social https://www.linkedin.com/in/barry-o-reilly-b924657 https://www.blacktulip.se Andrew https://bsky.app/profile/andrewhl.bsky.social https://twit.social/@ahl https://x.com/al94781 https://github.com/andrewharmellaw https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewharmellaw https://andrewharmellaw.github.io ABSTRACT Speakers interview each other on topics that matter to them. [...] Read the full abstract here: https://gotocph.com/2025/sessions/3782 RECOMMENDED BOOKS Ford, Parsons, Kua & Sadalage  • Building Evolutionary Architectures 2nd Edition • https://amzn.to/3lqr5Q8 Gregor Hohpe • Platform Strategy • https://amzn.to/4cxfYdb Gregor Hohpe • The Software Architect Elevator • https://amzn.to/3F6d2ax Barry O'Reilly • Residues • https://leanpub.com/residuality Barry O'Reilly • The Architect's Paradox • https://leanpub.com/architectsparadox Andrew Harmel-Law • Facilitating Software Architecture • https://amzn.eu/d/5kZKVfU Bluesky Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    45 min
  4. Software Security for Developers • Laur Spilca & Thomas Vitale

    14 APR

    Software Security for Developers • Laur Spilca & Thomas Vitale

    This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club. http://gotopia.tech/bookclub Check out more here: https://gotopia.tech/episodes/428 Laurenţiu Spilcă - Java Champion, Java Community Lead at Endava & Author of "Software Security for Developers" & more books Thomas Vitale - Senior Software Architect at Systematic & Author of "Cloud Native Spring in Action" RESOURCES Laur https://bsky.app/profile/laurspilca.bsky.social https://x.com/laurspilca https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenţiu-spilcă-01a931107 https://laurspilca.com Thomas https://bsky.app/profile/thomasvitale.com https://mastodon.online/@thomasvitale https://twitter.com/vitalethomas https://linkedin.com/in/vitalethomas https://github.com/ThomasVitale https://www.thomasvitale.com Links https://www.manning.com/books/software-security-for-developers https://adibsaikali.wordpress.com DESCRIPTION Thomas Vitale sits down with Java Champion and author Laurentiu Spilca to discuss his co-authored book "Software Security for Developers". The conversation explores why security is so often avoided by developers, the widespread confusion between foundational concepts like encoding, hashing, and encryption, the dangers of reinventing established security standards, the growing risks of AI-generated code written without security awareness, and why understanding topics like PKI and certificates is more important than ever in modern software development. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Adib Saikali & Laurentiu Spilca • Software Security for Developers • https://amzn.to/4aPhqu0 Laurentiu Spilca • Spring, Start Here • https://amzn.to/3L6Sv6c Laurentiu Spilca • Spring Security in Action • https://amzn.to/3LqEkZW Laurentiu Spilca • Troubleshooting Java • https://amzn.to/4u5vkj0 Thomas Vitale • Cloud Native Spring in Action • https://amzn.to/3kLu1ns Bluesky Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    30 min
  5. Learn Docker in a Month of Lunches • Elton Stoneman & Bret Fisher

    10 APR

    Learn Docker in a Month of Lunches • Elton Stoneman & Bret Fisher

    This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club. http://gotopia.tech/bookclub Check out more here: https://gotopia.tech/episodes/428 Elton Stoneman - Freelance Consultant, Trainer & Author of "Learn Docker in a Month of Lunches" Bret Fisher - Docker Captain, Cloud Native Ambassador, Course Creator, YouTuber & Podcaster RESOURCES Elton https://bsky.app/profile/eltonstoneman.bsky.social https://x.com/EltonStoneman https://github.com/sixeyed https://www.linkedin.com/in/eltonstoneman https://blog.sixeyed.com Bret https://bsky.app/profile/bretfisher.com https://x.com/BretFisher https://github.com/BretFisher https://www.linkedin.com/in/bretefisher https://www.bretfisher.com/start https://www.bretfisher.com Links Get 45% discount on Manning products with code: GOTOstoneman3 https://www.manning.com https://blog.sixeyed.com/why-would-you-write-a-book-about-docker-in-2025 https://12factor.net DESCRIPTION In this conversation, Docker educator Brett Fisher sits down with Elton Stoneman - freelance consultant, former Docker employee, and author of "Learn Docker in a Month of Lunches" — to discuss the newly released second edition of his book. They cover what has changed in the container ecosystem over the last five years, why Docker fundamentals still matter even as Kubernetes dominates production environments, and what separates a Docker beginner from a true expert. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Elton Stoneman • Learn Docker in a Month of Lunches • https://amzn.to/4kJVSSD Elton Stoneman • Learn Kubernetes in a Month of Lunches • https://amzn.to/4qKjate Elton Stoneman • Docker on Windows • https://amzn.to/4cD6kJD Burns, Beda & Hightower • Kubernetes: Up & Running • https://amzn.to/3sueuuI Liz Rice • Container Security • https://amzn.to/3oU4iJe Liz Rice • Kubernetes Security • https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/kubernetes-security/9781492039075 Bluesky Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    28 min
  6. One Size Fits None: How Platform Engineering Must Evolve • William Rizzo & Colin Griffin

    7 APR

    One Size Fits None: How Platform Engineering Must Evolve • William Rizzo & Colin Griffin

    This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. https://gotopia.tech William Rizzo - Global Field CTO at Mirantis & CNCF Ambassador Colin Griffin - CEO at Krumware & Co-Chair of CNCF Platform Engineering Working Group RESOURCES William https://bsky.app/profile/williamrizzo.bsky.social https://www.linkedin.com/in/william-rizzo https://github.com/wrkode Colin https://bsky.app/profile/devnetes.bsky.social https://github.com/krumware https://www.linkedin.com/in/colin-e-griffin Links https://www.cncf.io/reports/cloud-native-artificial-intelligence-whitepaper https://cloudnativeplatforms.com/whitepapers/platform-eng-maturity-model DESCRIPTION Colin Griffin and William Rizzo explore the evolving state of platform engineering in 2026. They discuss how the discipline plays out very differently across verticals such as fintech, telco, and automotive, and why generic frameworks must be tailored to the unique regulatory, cultural, and technical realities of each industry. The conversation moves through the growing pressure to align platform investments with measurable business outcomes, the distinct compliance challenges facing European organizations under tightening AI regulation, and the infrastructure reckoning triggered by large-scale GPU investment. Both speakers converge on a shared wish: that the CNCF Platform Engineering White Paper and Maturity Model be updated to reflect vertical-specific guidance, informed directly by end-user organizations. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Gregor Hohpe • Platform Strategy • https://amzn.to/4cxfYdb Gregor Hohpe • Cloud Strategy • https://amzn.to/3TOS3Nv Zhamak Dehghani • Data Mesh • https://amzn.to/3tTCwAC Sandeep Uttamchandani • The Self-Service Data Roadmap • https://amzn.to/3wAw5W2 Bluesky Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    30 min
  7. How To Build a GenAI-Augmented Software Organization • Marko Klemetti & Kris Jenkins

    3 APR

    How To Build a GenAI-Augmented Software Organization • Marko Klemetti & Kris Jenkins

    This conversation was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025. https://gotopia.tech Marko Klemetti - CTO of Eficode Kris Jenkins - Lifelong Computer Geek and Podcast Host ORIGINAL TALK TITLE Rewriting the SDLC Playbook with GenAI: How To Build a GenAI-Augmented Software Organization? RESOURCES Marko https://bsky.app/profile/mrako.com https://twitter.com/mrako https://github.com/mrako https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrako https://mrako.com Kris https://bsky.app/profile/krisajenkins.bsky.social https://twitter.com/krisajenkins https://www.linkedin.com/in/krisjenkins https://github.com/krisajenkins http://blog.jenkster.com ABSTRACT Speakers interview each other on topics that matter to them. Expect the unexpected. [...] Read the full abstract here: https://gotocph.com/2025/sessions/3931 RECOMMENDED BOOKS Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team Topologies • http://amzn.to/3sVLyLQ Forsgren, Humble & Kim • Accelerate: The Science of Lean Software and DevOps • https://amzn.to/3tCz1xO John Arundel & Justin Domingus • Cloud Native DevOps with Kubernetes • https://amzn.to/3hKZvI5 Wynne, Hellesoy & Tooke • The Cucumber Book • https://amzn.to/3tEUINJ Sol Rashidi • Your AI Survival Guide • https://amzn.to/3UFYnKC David Foster • Generative Deep Learning • https://amzn.to/48ZgP4x Phil Winder • Reinforcement Learning • https://amzn.to/3t1S1VZ Bluesky Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

    48 min
  8. Platform Engineering • Ajay Chankramath & Nic Cheneweth

    31 MAR

    Platform Engineering • Ajay Chankramath & Nic Cheneweth

    This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. https://gotopia.tech Check out more here: https://gotopia.tech/articles/429 Ajay Chankramath - Founder & CEO at Platformetrics & Co-Author of "Effective Platform Engineering" Nic Cheneweth - Principal Consultant at Thoughtworks & Co-Author of "Effective Platform Engineering" RESOURCES Ajay https://www.linkedin.com/in/chankramath https://github.com/achankra https://x.com/ajchantw https://chankramath.com https://platformetrics.com Nic https://www.linkedin.com/in/niccheneweth https://github.com/ncheneweth https://x.com/NicCheneweth https://ncheneweth.com Links https://effectiveplatformengineering.com https://epetech.io https://dora.dev https://dora.dev/research/2025/dora-report DESCRIPTION Ajay Chankramath (founder and CEO of Platformetrics) and Nic Cheneweth  Cheneweth (Principal Technologist at ThoughtWorks) explore the evolving world of platform engineering. They discuss why a product mindset is critical for internal platforms, how control planes and API-first design create scalable foundations, the real challenges organizations face when implementing Backstage, and where AI and agents are beginning to change the platform landscape. Throughout, both speakers emphasize that cutting corners on architectural foundations ultimately compounds problems at scale. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Chankramath, Cheneweth, Oliver & Alvarez • Effective Platform Engineering • https://amzn.to/3OnxN8i Gregor Hohpe • Platform Strategy • https://amzn.to/4cxfYdb Bluesky Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

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