Into The Multiverse Podcast

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Welcome to Into The Multiverse, where we believe mushrooms can help save the world, and that if humans mirrored the wisdom of the fungi kingdom, we’d have a more connected and joyful planet. Each episode features our host Alli Schaper alongside thought leaders and experts, exploring insights and stories across functional fungi, psychedelic medicine, and so mush more. Thanks for listening. Step into the Multiverse with us... https://www.instagram.com/intothemultiverse https://www.instagram.com/allischaper

  1. 10 May

    Triplets from Two Mothers? A First-of-Its-Kind IVF Story | Into the Multiverse Podcast S3 EP #54

    Recorded from her new home in Austin, Texas, our host Alli Schaper is joined by her mother, Linda, and her aunt, Barb, for a deeply personal conversation exploring their family’s extraordinary journey to motherhood. In this returning guest episode, they revisit the miraculous story of how Alli and her two siblings were born as triplets from two different mothers, in two different years, and in two different cities. Together, they reflect on the resilience, sacrifice, and groundbreaking medical innovation that made their family possible after more than a decade marked by infertility, heartbreak, and loss. In this episode, Alli, Linda, and Barb explore: A Seven-Year Infertility Journey: Linda shares the heartbreak of being told she may never conceive, enduring adoption denials, and experiencing multiple pregnancy losses before finding a path forward.The Power of Sisterhood: Barb reflects on the calling that led her to become a surrogate for her sister after years of witnessing her pain.A First-of-Its-Kind IVF Story: The family reflects on the groundbreaking decision to transfer the same cycle of embryos into two sisters simultaneously, a medical first that helped make their extraordinary story possible.Raising a Story Rooted in Love: From the beginning, the family chose openness, ensuring the children always understood the unique story of their birth. As they reflect on this 32-year journey, the conversation becomes a powerful reminder that motherhood can take many forms and how love, resilience, and devotion can shape a family in extraordinary ways.

    1hr 8min

  2. 4 May

    The Future of Psychedelic Policy with Josh Kappel | Into the Multiverse Podcast S3 EP #53

    Recorded live from Antarctica, psychedelic attorney Joshua Kappel joins host Alli Schaper to explore the rapidly unfolding frontier of psychedelic policy in the United States. With nearly two decades in drug policy reform, Josh shares his journey from helping draft Denver’s first psilocybin decriminalization initiative to co-authoring Colorado’s Natural Medicine Health Act, helping create a more regulated path for psychedelic healing while easing restrictions around personal use. Together, they explore the space where underground culture meets formal regulation, and what it takes to translate lived experience into policy that actually works. Alli and Josh get into: Three Pathways of Reform: From federal pharmaceutical routes to state-regulated models and local decriminalization, a look at how change is unfolding across systems.The Rise of Microdosing: As low-dose use becomes more common, policy is still catching up to how people are actually engaging with these medicines.A New Model in New York: Early insights into a proposed permit system that could allow safe, at-home access to tested, low-dose psychedelics through education.Story as Catalyst: How real stories from veterans, first responders, and families are shaping the momentum behind reform.From Citizen Science to Clinical Trials: Why real-world data is playing such a big role in informing research and what comes next. As this next wave of reform takes shape, the conversation comes back to how we balance access, safety, and integrity while honoring the communities that have carried this work forward. — TIMESTAMPS 0:36 Introduction1:10 Welcoming Psychedelic Attorney Josh Kappel1:46 Josh’s Path Into Psychedelic Law and Advocacy3:50 The Current State of Psychedelic Policy in the U.S.11:04 Building the Microdosing Collective and Policy That Reflects Real-World Use19:12 Storytelling as a Catalyst for Policy Change23:31 How Culture Shapes the Future of Mental Health Policy28:22 Honoring the Cultural Origins of These Medicines31:18 Josh’s Most Important Lesson From Psychedelics — Josh Kappel: https://www.instagram.com/thepsychedeliclawyer — Step into the Multiverse with us... Shop Supermush: https://supermush.com/ our in house brand of the most effective and delicious functional mushroom supplements. Use Code: ITM15 for 15% off Into the Multiverse Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/intothemultiverse/

    33 min

  3. 31 Mar

    The Hidden Role of Mind-Altering Substances in Human Evolution with Norman Ohler | Into the Multiverse Podcast S3 EP #52

    Recorded on a boat to Antarctica, New York Times bestselling author Norman Ohler joins us for a conversation that challenges how we understand history, consciousness, and the hidden forces shaping human evolution. Known for his deep archival research and provocative storytelling, Ohler explores the often-overlooked role of psychoactive substances in shaping major historical events, from the inner workings of the Nazi regime to the broader evolution of human awareness. He also offers a first look into his upcoming work, Stoned Sapiens, where he proposes a new lens on how molecules may have influenced the development of the human brain and our survival as a species. Together, Norman and Alli explore: - Rewriting History: Insights from Blitzed and what widespread drug use reveals about power, control, and decision-making at the highest levels. - The Origins of Consciousness: A new perspective on how psychoactive compounds may have contributed to the development of the human mind. - Drugs & Empire: The overlooked role of substances in shaping global systems, including the opium trade and colonial expansion. - Literature as Disruption: Why storytelling can shift perception and act as a powerful political force. - Healing & Psychedelics: A personal look at Ohler’s exploration of LSD and its potential in treating neurodegenerative conditions, and how it reshaped his own understanding of medicine and care. This episode invites you to question what you think you know about history, and consider how chemistry, culture, and consciousness may be more deeply intertwined than we realize. -- TIMESTAMPS: 0:40 Podcast Introduction 1:10 Welcoming Norman Ohler 1:39 Writing as a Political Act of Transformation 6:25 Evolution Through "Stoned Sapiens" 7:50 Uncovering the Archives: Substance Use in Nazi Germany 15:10 Consciousness Modes: Connection vs. Survival 18:32 The Alchemy and Energy of Chemical Compounds 19:47 Historical Perspectives through the Lens of Consciousness 24:27 Colonialism, Queen Victoria, and the Global Drug Trade 30:03 Family Healing and Redefining Psychedelic Medicine 33:40 Complexity and Tolerance: Personal Reflections 34:50 Publishing the Planetary Narrative 35:40 The Ultimate Lesson: Learning to Open the Heart -- Norman Ohler: https://www.instagram.com/normanohlerRead Norman’s Work on Substack: https://stonedsapiens.substack.com/ -- Step into the Multiverse with us... Shop Supermush: https://supermush.com/ our in house brand of the most effective and delicious functional mushroom supplements. Use Code: ITM15 for 15% off Into the Multiverse Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/intothemultiverse/

    37 min

  4. 20 Mar

    Human Connection, Intergenerational Trauma, and Healing Family Wounds with Dr. Rachel Yehuda | Into the Multiverse Podcast S3 EP #51

    Recorded while cruising through the icy, surreal landscape of Antarctica, Psychiatrist Dr. Rachel Yehuda, a pioneering researcher of intergenerational trauma and Director of The Parsons Research Center for Psychedelic Healing at Mount Sinai, joins Alli Schaper, Founder of SuperMush, for a deep dive into the invisible threads connecting us to our past. Rachel shares the unexpected beginnings of her groundbreaking research with Holocaust survivors and their children, revealing how trauma can echo across generations, not just in our stories but in our biology. She reminds us that the history we carry shapes us, but it doesn’t have to define us. Together, Rachel and Alli dive into: The Science of Survival: How epigenetics helps explain why trauma “sticks,” and how inherited stress responses may be adaptive signals from the past.Psychedelics & Memory: Why altered states can help us safely revisit “filed away” memories and reshape them into stories of resilience.Grief & Transformation: Alli shares a personal story about her mother’s psilocybin journey, opening a heartfelt conversation about metabolizing grief and rethinking our relationship with death.A New Mental Health Paradigm: Rachel’s vision for moving beyond symptom management toward deeper healing through altered states, insight, and human connection.And so mush more! -- TIMESTAMPS: 0:54 Podcast Intro 1:23 Introducing Dr. Rachel Yehuda and Her Research 3:05 Rachel’s Research Origins: Studying Trauma in Holocaust Survivors and Their Children 8:11 Intergenerational Transmission: Applying Science to Ancient Wisdom 14:40 The Role of Psychedelics in Healing Intergenerational Trauma 17:20 "Finding" Memories: How Psychedelics Aid in Processing the Past 21:20 Alli’s Personal Story: Using Psilocybin to Process the Concept of Death 23:40 Metabolizing Loss: How Psychedelic Therapy Helps Navigate Grief 29:25 Deep Dive into Biological Markers and Future Research Methods 33:15 Shifting the Mental Health Paradigm: A Vision for Psychedelics and Humanity 40:05 Beyond Suppression: The Future of Mental Health Care and Healing 43:52 Embracing Nonlinear Healing and the Value of the "Altered State" 46:20 Lessons from Psychedelics: Connection and the Power of Hope -- Dr. Rachel Yehuda: https://www.instagram.com/rachelyehudaphd/ -- Step into the Multiverse with us... Shop SuperMush: https://supermush.com/ our in house brand of the most effective and delicious functional mushroom supplements. Use Code: ITM15 for 15% off Into the Multiverse Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/intothemultiverse/ SuperMush Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/supermush/

    50 min

  5. 21 Feb

    Closer Together: Finding Safety & Authenticity in a Culture of Self-Betrayal with Sophie Grégoire Trudeau | Into the Multiverse Podcast S3 EP #50

    Recorded on a rocky boat trip through Antarctica, Sophie Grégoire Trudeau, Canadian wellness advocate, author, and former unofficial First Lady of Canada, joins Alli Schaper (co-founder of SuperMush and host of the Into the Multiverse podcast) for an intimate conversation exploring human connection, safety, belonging, and living authentically. Sophie opens up about her journey writing Closer Together, Knowing Ourselves, Loving Each Other, including her struggles with eating disorders and insights from her time as Canada’s unofficial first lady. The conversation also explores how tears, playfulness, and humor serve as tools for healing, how depression and blame can be manipulated to divide people, and how tools like somatic practices, psychedelics, and yoga can restore empathy, joy, and creative flow. Sophie also shares upcoming projects, including free yoga and meditation offerings and a virtual workshop with Dr. Gabor Maté. — TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 Intro 1:14 Meet Sophie Grégoire Trudeau 3:36 The Purpose of Sophie’s book, Closer Together 6:52 Reflections on Authenticity, Aging & Her Younger Self 15:34 Qualities of Safe People and Cultivating Safe Relationships 22:00 Balancing Power & Softness and Embracing Polarity Within Yourself 30:10 Exploring Healing with Alternative Therapeutics and Psychedelic Medicines 38:47 Understanding Depression, Blame, & Paranoia (The Pattern Dividing Humans) 41:20 What Sophie Values in Close Friendships 43:03 Cultivating Psychological Safety 48:20 Surprising Insights from Her Book 59:00 Upcoming Projects & Future Work — Sophie Grégoire Trudeau: https://www.instagram.com/sophiegregoiretrudeau/ — Step into the Multiverse with us... Shop SuperMush: https://supermush.com/ our in house brand of the most effective and delicious functional mushroom supplements. Use Code: ITM15 for 15% off Into the Multiverse Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/intothemultiverse/ SuperMush Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/supermush/

    1hr 1min

  6. 16/12/2024

    Microdosing For The Masses - with Paul Austin | Into the Multiverse Podcast S2 EP #49

    On this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast With Paul F. Austin . I share my journey from corporate America to becoming a leader in the functional and psychedelic mushroom space. We discuss the importance of microdosing, the challenges of psychedelic policy reform, and the mission of the Microdosing Collective. I emphasizes the potential of microdosing to enhance mental health, increase empathy, and create positive societal change. The conversation covers personal experiences, the need for consumer protection in the underground market, and the vision for making microdosing legally accessible. === TIMESTAMPS: 4:15 Mushrooms and death 19:02 Alli's journey from corporate America to psychedelic advocacy 27:05 SuperMush and Into the Multiverse 30:36 Microdosing Collective 37:41 Challenges and experiences in psychedelic policy reform 47:42 Vision for legal microdosing access and its potential societal impact 56:57 The power of personal stories in advancing psychedelic policy 57:58 How to get involved and support the Microdosing Collective === Step into the Multiverse with us... Shop Supermush: https://supermush.com/ our in house brand of the most effective and delicious functional mushroom supplements. Use Code: ITM15 for 15% off Into the Multiverse Instagram:   / intothemultiverse   Super Mush Instagram:   / supermush

    1hr 1min

  7. 14/10/2024

    Love, Death & Poetry : A Hero's Journey - Allie Michelle | Into the Multiverse Podcast EP #48

    DESCRIPTION In this episode, we take a deep dive with Allie Michelle, who is a poet, author, podcast host and speaker and we talk about all things love, death, poetry, AI and even a glimpse into her new book.  She shares an amazing story of here first experience with psychedelics and how it helped her tap into her intuition. We talk about her views on death and how it’s made her more grateful for life. The major impacts of AI on her and her industry as a writer/Poet. This episode is pack with so many gems. Thank you for joining us and I hope you enjoy the episode. === TIMESTAMPS: 1:30 - Intro 11:00 - Hit of inspiration process 12:30- How did you untrap yourself 14:40 - Powerful quote 17:00 - Psychedelics and your process 20:00 - We love death 26:30 - Let’s stop time 31:30 - Psychedelics and your emotions 36:30 - It takes courage 40:30 - What’s your emotional process for challenges  42:30 - What’s lighting you up right now  44:30 - AI and writing  47:00 - Easy a podcast 50:30 - Outro === GUEST BIO: Allie Michelle is a poet, writer, and co-founder of NFT school for mental health and wellness, We Are Warriors. She is a certified meditation, breathwork, and yoga teacher, which has heavily influenced her work. She has preformed spoken word poetry across the globe, continuing to share her work and inspire people to live vulnerably, love deeply, and create often. IG- https://www.instagram.com/alliemichellel/?hl=en Easy A Podcast - https://open.spotify.com/show/0ZGMajufmT6ppp4LbKaaiV?si=7f1203bd24404b5c&utm_medium=share&utm_source=linktree Legends of Lemuria - https://shopcatalog.com/products/legends-of-lemuria === Step into the Multiverse with us... Shop Supermush: https://supermush.com/ our in house brand of the most effective and delicious functional mushroom supplements.  Use Code: ITM15 for 15% off  Into the Multiverse Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/intothemultiverse/ Super Mush Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/supermush/

    52 min

  8. 03/09/2024

    Psychedelics, Comedy and Creativity With Brent Pella | Into the Multiverse Podcast EP #47

    DESCRIPTION Join us for Episode 47 of "Into the Multiverse" as we dive deep into the fascinating intersection of psychedelics and comedy with the hilarious Brent Pella! In this episode, we explore how altered states of consciousness can influence creativity, humor, and storytelling. Brent shares his personal experiences with psychedelics and how they’ve shaped his comedic style, leading to unexpected insights and laughs. Discover the funny side of psychedelics as we discuss the impact of these mind-expanding substances on the creative process, the role of humor in navigating profound experiences, and the unique perspectives that arise when comedy meets the psychedelic realm. Whether you’re a comedy fan, a psychedelics enthusiast, or just curious about the multiverse of ideas, this episode is packed with entertaining anecdotes and thought-provoking discussions. Tune in now for a wild ride through laughter and enlightenment! Don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe for more episodes of "Into the Multiverse." === GUEST BIO: Brent Pella is a stand up comedian and filmmaker whose videos have gained 500M+ views online and was recently named a "Creator to Watch" by the New York Comedy Festival. A graduate of both the full Groundlings and UCB improv/sketch programs, Brent is best known for his digital comedy content that often satirizes American politics and trending social/cultural issues, as well as his viral celebrity impressions of CA governor Gavin Newsom, Eminem, Joe Rogan and more. https://www.instagram.com/brentpella/ https://www.brentpella.com/shows === Step into the Multiverse with us... Shop Supermush: https://supermush.com/ our in house brand of the most effective and delicious functional mushroom supplements. Use Code: ITM15 for 15% off Into the Multiverse Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/intothemultiverse/ Super Mush Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/supermush/

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Welcome to Into The Multiverse, where we believe mushrooms can help save the world, and that if humans mirrored the wisdom of the fungi kingdom, we’d have a more connected and joyful planet. Each episode features our host Alli Schaper alongside thought leaders and experts, exploring insights and stories across functional fungi, psychedelic medicine, and so mush more. Thanks for listening. Step into the Multiverse with us... https://www.instagram.com/intothemultiverse https://www.instagram.com/allischaper

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