The Unknown Path

Jem Fuller

The Unknown Path is about the quiet grit behind “overnight” success. Each week I sit down with founders, entrepreneurs, artists and change-makers to mine the moments that shaped them—doubts, detours, decisions, and the choice that changed everything. Come for the wins; stay for the wisdom. Build a fulfilled life that actually feels like you.

  1. 1 day ago

    Scars to Strength - The Catalina Magee Story

    "Freedom without forgiveness is just relocation" In this episode of The Unknown Path, Jem Fuller sits down with Catalina Magee — former Miss Romania, Vogue Italia model, and founder of Trend Prive magazine, now a real estate investor, podcast host, and someone who volunteers her time with Las Vegas's homeless community. Catalina shares what it was like growing up under communism in Romania, the ultimatum she gave her mother at sixteen, and the night in Germany she stood in a car park screaming for help while her husband lay fighting for his life after a house fire. We talk about the years of abuse that shaped her childhood, the choice she made to forgive the man who caused it, and why she's landed on humility — not love — as the biggest lesson life has taught her. This conversation explores what it actually costs to build a life of gratitude out of a childhood built on scarcity and pain, and why the people we overlook are so often the ones who save us. ⸻In this conversation we go into:— The ultimatum a sixteen-year-old Catalina gave her mother about her father, and the divorce it forced— A stranger's invitation to Capri, and the night Mariah Carey stood two feet away— The house fire in Germany that nearly took her husband's life, and the phone call that finally got him a hospital bed— Growing up under communism in Romania, where the family had one orange at Christmas and prayed in secret beneath the floor— Why homelessness isn't the choice people assume it is, and the questions Catalina asks instead of judging About Catalina Magee:Catalina Magee is a real estate investor, entrepreneur, actress and published author based in Las Vegas. She began her career as a model featured in Vogue Italia and the winner of Miss Romania, before founding Trend Prive magazine and going on to work across the U.S. Army, MWR, NCIS, the USDA and the US Embassy in Tel Aviv. She has since built and sold multiple businesses, and currently oversees a real estate portfolio, a wedding venture and a celebrity magazine, alongside ongoing volunteer work with Las Vegas's homeless community.Connect with Catalina:🌐 https://catalinamagee.com📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/officialcatalinamagee💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catalinamagee/▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdWGKSdXcO04gZV30EIM7tQ⸻ About The Unknown Path:The Unknown Path is a podcast about the untold stories behind success — real conversations with extraordinary people about the parts of their journey nobody asks them about. Hosted by Jem Fuller. ⸻Follow the show:🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/jemfuller💼 LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/jemfuller🌱 More from Jem: https://jemfuller.com If something in this conversation lands for you, share it with someone who might need it today. #TheUnknownPath #CatalinaMagee #Forgiveness

    Scars to Strength - The Catalina Magee Story
  2. 19 Jul

    The Ten Years in Africa that Changed Everything: The Jared Angaza Story

    I couldn't sit still. I was angry, and it was time to find the stillness. In this episode of The Unknown Path we have the incredible Jared Angaza - Founder of Passage Collective, human rights worker turned indigenous wisdom keeper, and creator of the Coherence Protocol — an AI framework grounded in indigenous values. In this conversation, Jared shares how a decade of human rights work across Rwanda and Kenya led to a profound low point, on the dirt floor of a Rwandan jail forcing him to find another way to respond to rage and look inside. Jared's story is one of fierce advocacy and resilience, and one that will make you look twice at what you've mistaken for strength. We talk about the difference between resilience and anti-fragility, what surrender means when it isn't about giving up, and how that decade of hands-on community work became the foundation for the work he does today, building AI systems grounded in indigenous governance rather than fixed rules. This conversation explores what it takes to stop fighting for control and make space for something better to come through, and a beautiful exploration of the impact one driven person can have on a global community for the better. ⸻In this conversation we go into:— A decade of human rights work across Rwanda and Kenya, including informant work that led to jail time— Building a safe house in Kigali for forty-nine women and seventy-eight kids— Adopting a son off the streets and learning a language with no textbook to teach it— The night in a dirt-floor jail cell that changed how he responds to rage— Building an AI framework out of indigenous wisdom instead of fixed rules About Jared Angaza:Jared Angaza is the founder of Passage Collective, building AI systems grounded in indigenous values through the Coherence Protocol and an Indigenous Governance Council of elders and knowledge holders from around the world. Before this work, he spent a decade living and working across Rwanda and Kenya, founding Team Africa Rising and the Treasure Center safe house, and building the ethical fashion brand Kaza alongside the women he worked with. More at passagecollective.com ⸻About The Unknown Path:The Unknown Path is a podcast about the untold stories behind success — real conversations with extraordinary people about the parts of their journey nobody asks them about. Hosted by Jem Fuller.

    The Ten Years in Africa that Changed Everything: The Jared Angaza Story
  3. 12 Jul

    The Medical System is Broken with Dr Donese Warden

    What happens when you know something is true, but everyone around you is telling you it isn't? In this episode of The Unknown Path, I talk with Dr Donese Worden, NMD, a physician who has spent twenty-seven years working across conventional and integrative medicine, and co-founder of a nonprofit researching metabolic approaches to cancer. In her first year of medical school, Donese watched her mother suffer a stroke caused by a medical error. Doctors told the family she wouldn't survive the night and advised them to stop treatment. Donese trusted her gut over the doctors in front of her, refused, and her mother recovered. That same instinct has shaped her whole career. She now argues cancer should be treated as a metabolic disease rather than a purely genetic one, a position most mainstream cancer research still doesn't accept. This episode is about trusting your own read on something, especially when the noise around you is telling you the opposite. Donese helps unpack the difference between conviction and stubbornness, and why waiting for permission to trust yourself usually costs more than getting it wrong. In this episode:— Why she believes cancer is a metabolic disease, not a genetic one— The questions worth asking before starting any medical treatment— Why she told the United Nations that AI still doesn't account for women properly ⸻ Dr Donese Worden, NMD: Physician, researcher, and co-founder of a nonprofit researching metabolic approaches to cancer.🌐 drworden.com📸 Instagram: @DrDoneseWorden ⸻ The Unknown Path is a podcast about the untold stories behind success — real conversations with extraordinary people about the parts of their journey nobody asks them about. theunknownpathpodcast.com │ Instagram: @jemfuller

    The Medical System is Broken with Dr Donese Warden
  4. 5 Jul

    The Breakthrough begins with your Origin Story with Ron Carucci

    What does it really mean to rewrite the story that shaped you — without losing what it gave you? In this episode of The Unknown Path, Jem Fuller sits down with Ron Carucci, co-founder of Navalent and a leadership consultant who has spent three decades advising CEOs through major organisational change. Ron shares his own honest reckoning with the origin stories we all carry, the vows we make young without realising it, and what it actually takes to unlearn a habit without losing the ability behind it. From a client whose entire career was built on protecting an old wound, to Ron's own journey through faith, depression, and the moments that quietly redirected his life, this conversation explores how facing where we come from can change how we move forward — without asking us to give up who we've become. ⸻ In this conversation we go into:— A client whose career was built on protecting a wound from childhood— The vow made in silence, and the one that finally replaced it— Ron's own years of depression and anxiety, and what shifted them— The mentor who split his life into two distinct eras— Why he almost didn't publish his article on the state of democracy Ron Carucci: Co-founder and managing partner of Navalent, and author of Rising to Power and To Be Honest.🌐 navalent.com ⸻ The Unknown Path explores the unseen journeys behind extraordinary lives — real conversations about the failures, turning points, and unexpected moments that shaped who people became. theunknownpathpodcast.com │ Instagram: @jemfuller

    The Breakthrough begins with your Origin Story with Ron Carucci
  5. 28 Jun

    From 14 days to live, to the summit of Everest: The story of Sean Swarner

    At sixteen, Sean was given fourteen days to live. He survived — and then had to figure out what to do with the rest of his life. Sean Swarner is a two-time cancer survivor and the first person with one functioning lung to summit Everest. He's gone on to complete the seven summits, ski to both Poles, and complete the Hawaii Ironman World Championship. But what moves me most about this conversation isn't the scale of what he's done, although they are incredible. It's what he came back with from being given fourteen days to live at sixteen that has platformed a meaningful and incredible life. In this conversation, Sean shares his story from being a boy in a hospital bed to the man on the other end of incredible feats. But this conversation isn't about survival, it's the story of being alive. From resilience, choice and failure and what it all means when faced with the limits of what the body can achieve and survive, Sean opens up about this amazing perspective on what we can truly grow into as individuals when we strip away our comforts and certainty. If everything you knew was pulled away, what would you be left with? Who would you be? There are so many incredible teachings in this week's conversation, and it has left me with such awe and understanding of what it means to face life, even when there's fear staring back at you. In this episode: — What's left of a person when comfort, certainty and health have all been stripped away— Why resilience has nothing to do with grit, and everything to do with loyalty to who you are— The difference between chasing something you think will complete you, and meeting your own life with eyes open— Why reaching the top can leave you hollow, and what Sean now calls a false summit A conversation about what it means to be alive, from someone who was told he wouldn't be. ⸻ Sean Swarner: 🎬 True North: The Sean Swarner Story — Sean's documentary of his North Pole expedition. Watch free https://www.amazon.com/True-North-%20Sean-Swarner-Story/dp/B07LBCSFCD🏔️ The CancerClimber Association — Sean's organisation sponsoring cancer survivors up Kilimanjaro: https://www.seanswarner.com/philanthropy-2/cca🌐 More from Sean: : https://www.seanswarner.com/ ⸻ The Unknown Path is a podcast about the untold stories behind success — real conversations with extraordinary people about the parts of their journey nobody asks them about. Hosted by Jem Fuller, a coach, facilitator, speaker and author who has spent two decades working with leaders on resilience, presence, and the human capabilities that shape how we live and work. Through coaching, workshops, speaking and retreats, both at home in Australia and in the Himalayas, Jem works with individuals and teams across business, government and education. You can learn more about his work, or join an upcoming retreat, by visiting https://jemfuller.com/ │ Instagram: @jemfuller

    From 14 days to live, to the summit of Everest: The story of Sean Swarner
  6. 21 Jun

    A lifetime of Wisdom: Neale Donald Walsch's Story - Part 2

    "Your life is not about you, it's about everyone whose life you touch and the way in which you touch it." Neale Donald Walsch is a best-selling international author of the Conversations with God series and a spiritual messenger whose work has touched the lives of millions. Last week's conversation resonated so deeply with so many of you, and I cannot wait for you to sit with this one. (If you missed it, make sure to have a listen). This is Part B of my conversation with Neale, and where we move into the wisdom of what eight decades of living has taught him about being human. Neale opens up and shares stories with me he hasn't told on a podcast before, the ones that have quietly shaped his understanding of love, abundance, and what it actually means to give people back to themselves. This is one of those conversations that stays with you. Neale's warmth, his humour, and the simplicity with which he reframes some of the biggest questions we carry as humans, made this such a gift to record. I'm so honoured to share it with you. In this episode (Part B):— What it has actually been like for Neale to be known by millions as the man who talks to GodWhy some people read a book and intellectually understand its message, but never embody it The "be the source" teaching Neale was given, and how to practise it in everyday life The three assignments Neale says he was given by God A story from his time on the street, and the understanding of abundance that came out of it  ⸻ Neale Donald Walsch: His latest book, Letters to a Young Seeker: Departing Thoughts from an Elder, is written for young people, and for anyone still finding their way. It brings together the twenty-one most important messages from his Conversations with God dialogue, paired with poetry by his wife, award-winning poet Em Claire, and shares what Neale wishes he had known in his twenties, thirties, and forties.  ⸻ Resources: 📖 Neale's latest book, Letters to a Young Seeker: Departing Thoughts from an Elder: [LINK] 📚 Conversations with God series: [LINK] 🌐 Work with Neale: nealedonaldwalsch.com ⸻ The Unknown Path is a podcast about the untold stories behind success — real conversations with extraordinary people about the parts of their journey nobody asks them about. You can learn more about Jem and stay up to date with his incredible work that spans across the globe or join an upcoming retreat by visiting the website. jemfuller.com │ Instagram: @jemfuller

    A lifetime of Wisdom: Neale Donald Walsch's Story - Part 2
  7. 14 Jun

    When God Answered: Neale Donald Walsch's Story - Part 1

    "I love you no matter what." That, in Neale Donald Walsch's words, is the message at the heart of everything he's been given to share with the world. For thirty years, Neale's work has been a companion to people walking through the hardest questions of being human and into the deeper truths of the joys of being human. What he has offered, in his best selling Conversations with God Collection is something profound that has changed the lives of many - a truth that we are loved without condition, that the divine is not somewhere we have to earn our way to, and that the wisdom we are reaching for already lives inside us. It has reached five million people across thirty-seven languages, and continues to reach more every year. What most people don't know is where that dialogue with God began for Neale. In this conversation we go beyond the books and into the humanness of his story right into the one-room flat above someone's garage, at rockbottom, where the morning he picked up a yellow legal pad and wrote an angry letter to God demanding to know what it takes to make life work. What came back was the beginning of everything that followed. This is Part A of a two-part conversation. In this episode we move through the full arc of Neals life — the childhood in Milwaukee that built the man, the unravelling that emptied him out, the morning the dialogue began, and the eighty-two years of living that have now distilled into his newest book, Letters to a Young Seeker.  I can't wait for you to dive into this week's conversation. If you've ever come across Neale's work, you'll know we're in for an incredible episode. In this episode (Part A): The two weeks his marriage ended, his job ended, and a car accident nearly ended his life Fifty weeks on the sidewalk, asking what it takes to make life work The 4.30am morning the dialogue began, and the moment he realised the answers weren't his  His mother, dying, asking him to dance on her grave  Whether a soul actually chooses its parents before it arrives Neale Donald Walsch: Author of the Conversations with God series, translated into thirty-seven languages. His latest book is Letters to a Young Seeker. Resources: 📖 Neale's latest book, Letters to a Young Seeker: Purchase📚 Conversations with God series: Find the Books Here🌐 Work with Neale: nealedonaldwalsch.com ⸻ The Unknown Path is a podcast about the untold stories behind success — real conversations with extraordinary people about the parts of their journey nobody asks them about. theunknownpathpodcast.com │ Instagram: @jemfuller

    When God Answered: Neale Donald Walsch's Story - Part 1
  8. 7 Jun

    Breaking Burnout, Faith & Redefining Success: The Nabeela Elsayed Story

    She started as a barista making $6.50 an hour and ended up as COO of Walmart Canada, but that's not the most interesting part of the her story. This weeks episode is with Nabeela Elasyed. Former COO of Walmart Canada and CHRO of IKEA US, a Marshall Goldsmith 100 Coaches member, and the author of the forthcoming Breaking Burnout. She's spent 20 years leading some of the world's largest organisations before stepping away to follow a different journey.  This conversation was such a pleasure. Nabeela and I are on very aligned missions in the world — and she brings a perspective I rarely get to sit across from. She went from a first-generation immigrant childhood, where work became both her escape and her identity, through twenty years at the top of the corporate world, to walking away from a seven-figure career and starting over. What she traces in this conversation is the interior cost of that climb — the postpartum depression and anxiety she carried in silence for years, what happens when the role that defined you is gone, and what it actually looks like to reimagine success once the title is gone. She's thought deeply about all of this. And she's lived every part of it. In this episode: The internal operating system that drives overachievers - where it comes from, and what it doesA decade of high-level executive performance sustained alongside hidden mental illness Why anchoring your identity in your career, your title, or any single thing puts you at serious risk when that thing is interruptedThe difference between loving your work and being in love with it Why people with deep purpose are actually more vulnerable to burnout Her faith as the one constant through the lowest momentsWhat the Gallup thriving scale tells us about the state of the global workforce, and why she's still optimisticThis is an incredible episode and if there's anything to take away from it, it's that that your value is inherent. You don't have to produce to rest, to be worthy, or to be loved. For a lot of high achievers, that's not an easy thing to hear — and she'd know. ⸻ Nabeela Elsayed:   🌐 Website: nabeelaelsayed.com 📖 Pre-order Breaking Burnout: https://www.nabeelaelsayed.com/breaking-burnout 📸 Instagram: @nabeelaelsayed 💼 LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/nabeelaixtabalan/?originalSubdomain=ca  ⸻ The Unknown Path is a podcast about the untold stories behind success — real conversations with extraordinary people.

    Breaking Burnout, Faith & Redefining Success: The Nabeela Elsayed Story

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The Unknown Path is about the quiet grit behind “overnight” success. Each week I sit down with founders, entrepreneurs, artists and change-makers to mine the moments that shaped them—doubts, detours, decisions, and the choice that changed everything. Come for the wins; stay for the wisdom. Build a fulfilled life that actually feels like you.