Power House

The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire's Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  1. 2 days ago

    What 2008 taught a billion-dollar lender

    Kevin Rodman spent 24 years at Morgan Stanley, rising from bond trader to partner overseeing mortgage operations as the system came apart in 2008. What separated the survivors from the casualties, he says, was culture and discipline, and a refusal to let one superstar desk run the firm off a cliff. Those lessons now sit at the core of ABL Asset Based Lending, the private lender he helped build into a billion-dollar platform for new construction, fix and flip, and DSCR loans. In this episode, Rodman walks Zeb through ABL's growth from a 2010 post-crash startup to a national platform serving seasoned infill builders, the hard reset that followed when DSCR volume doubled and service times slipped, and how AI is already reshaping the mortgage factory. His read on the next decade: the lenders who win will pair durable capital with modern tech and a culture where everyone thinks like an owner. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Kevin Rodman's LinkedIn Asset Based Lending Buy one, get one FREE tickets to the Mortgage Banking Summit on October 1st Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  2. 10 Sept

    Building in the ashes: Land Gorilla is rewiring construction lending

    In this episode of the Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Sean Faries, founder and CEO of Land Gorilla, a company that’s become a quiet force behind construction loan management across the country. Sean walks us through what makes construction lending fundamentally different from a traditional purchase or refi, explaining that you’re really underwriting a future home that doesn’t exist yet. It’s not just credit, income, and assets—you’re evaluating builders, budgets, plans, inspections, draw schedules, lien risk, and the emotional roller coaster between borrower and builder. Sean also opens up about the origin story of Land Gorilla, which started in the aftermath of the financial crisis when he lost his home, lost a business, and moved back in with his parents. After even getting turned down for a “safe” job because he didn’t have a degree, he turned to doing draw inspections himself just to get by. That gritty, boots‑on‑the‑ground work slowly evolved into a SaaS platform at a time when “SaaS” wasn’t even a mainstream term, and while the rest of the industry pulled back from construction lending, he stayed in the space, learning its pain points in depth. We dig into the stigma that still hangs over construction loans and why, in Sean’s view, construction lending is absolutely not for every lender. It demands true product ownership, passionate leadership, and a willingness to invest in a program that won’t run itself. Sean breaks down the delicate dynamic between lender, builder, and borrower—the “throuple” as we joke about it—and why lenders must keep their primary duty anchored to the borrower while managing performance‑based relationships with builders, not risky referral-driven ones. He also talks about where AI is already transforming the space, from internal productivity to productized tools like Land Gorilla’s X‑ray, and how better data and visibility might help the market self‑correct faster on supply and risk than it did in past cycles. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Sean Faries' LinkedIn Land Gorilla Buy one, get one FREE tickets to the Mortgage Banking Summit on October 1st Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  3. 20 Aug

    Building influence: Paul Gigliotti on leadership, innovation and mortgage’s future

    On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Paul Gigliotti, CEO of the California MBA, for a conversation about leadership, adaptability and what it takes to help move the mortgage industry forward. Gigliotti has built a career that spans mortgage, technology and industry advocacy, giving him a perspective that extends well beyond any single corner of the business. He discusses how strong leaders evolve, why innovation is ultimately about people rather than technology, and the responsibility industry leaders have to create opportunities for the people coming behind them. The conversation also explores the importance of staying curious in a business that never stops changing, and why the ability to bring people together around new ideas may be one of the most valuable leadership skills in housing today. Make sure to stick around until the end: Zeb and Paul have a special announcement about an upcoming collaboration. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Paul Gigliotti's LinkedIn California MBA Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

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The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire's Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

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