The Bookkeepers' Podcast

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  1. 4 DAYS AGO

    Why Compliance-Only Bookkeepers Get Stuck

    Jo and I always think that for bookkeepers, having a little black book is the starting point to advisory. In this episode, we dive deep into the world of bookkeeperz advisory services and how they can elevate your business. We chat with Sam from Nexus, who shares invaluable insights on building partnerships that can help you become a better business owner. Discover how to spot opportunities for your clients, from cost savings to funding options, and learn how to have those crucial conversations that can make a real difference. Chapters: 00:00:00 - Why 'Compliance-Only' Bookkeepers Get STUCK 00:00:51 - About Nexus 00:02:04 - Services for Bookkeepers 00:04:08 - Experience with VAT Funding 00:05:28 - Advisory Services 00:09:07 - Understanding Client's Needs 00:10:30 - The Importance of Listening 00:12:16 - Proactive Approach 00:12:45 - Sam's Journey 00:15:18 - Sam's Career Shift 00:16:57 - Furlonteer Initiative 00:17:46 - Transition to Tech 00:18:35 - Entrepreneurial Spirit 00:20:32 - Studenteer Initiative 00:23:17 - Challenges of Starting a Business 00:24:49 - Sustainable Business Growth 00:27:22 - Building and Using a Network 00:31:06 - Helping Bookkeepers 00:31:32 - Motivation and Business Model 00:32:08 - Adapting to Change and New Opportunities 00:33:04 - Building Network through Connection 00:33:51 - Becoming the Go-To Person 00:34:55 - Reaching Out to Sam ----------------------------------------------- About us We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective ----------------------------------------------- About our Sponsor This episode of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is sponsored by Xero. Get 90% off your first 6 months by visiting: https://www.xero.com/uk/campaign/referral-influencer/?utm_medium=influencers&utm_source=partnerstack&utm_campaign=8e10854455f4&ps_partner_key=OGUxMDg1NDQ1NWY0&ps_xid=kNFl7kZNBfWqfg&gsxid=kNFl7kZNBfWqfg&gspk=OGUxMDg1NDQ1NWY0 ----------------------------------------------- Promotion This video contains paid promotion. ----------------------------------------------- Disclaimer The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast.

    36 min
  2. 7 FEB

    How Bookeepers Become Indispensible in 2026

    How can bookkeepers become financially essential in 2026? In this episode, we dive into the changing landscape for bookkeepers and how to ensure you are an indispensable asset to your clients. With the economy shifting and small businesses becoming more selective, it’s crucial to articulate the value you bring. You need to be seen as a finance lead, not just someone who checks boxes. Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction and Welcome 00:00:17 - Understanding the Current Situation 00:01:20 - Value of Bookkeepers 00:03:03 - Role of a Finance Lead 00:04:01 - Becoming Indispensable 00:06:25 - Understanding the Business Environment in 2026 00:08:05 - Positioning as a Finance Lead 00:08:32 - Showing Your Value 00:10:45 - Leveraging Software and Tools 00:11:30 - Developing a Gold Standard Service 00:14:19 - Avoiding Burnout 00:15:14 - Setting Boundaries with Clients 00:17:29 - Repositioning the Value of Your Service 00:18:48 - Becoming Financially Essential 00:20:58 - Moving Towards Business Coaching 00:21:44 - Becoming an Essential Finance Lead 00:22:30 - Redefining Advisory Services 00:24:39 - Transitioning from Transactional Bookkeeping to Essential Finance Lead 00:25:07 - Conclusion ----------------------------------------------- About us We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective ----------------------------------------------- About our Sponsor This episode of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is sponsored by Xero. Get 90% off your first 6 months by visiting: https://xero5440.partnerlinks.io/6figurebookkeeper ----------------------------------------------- Promotion This video contains paid promotion. ----------------------------------------------- Disclaimer The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast.

    26 min
  3. 7 FEB

    How Smart Bookkeepers Price Their Services

    Most bookkeepers struggle with pricing, not because they lack skill, but because they don’t understand how smart bookkeepers actually think about value. In this episode, I break down: - How bookkeepers should approach pricing - Why bookkeepers often undercharge - What separates confident bookkeepers from hesitant bookkeepers. If you’re a bookkeeper or working with bookkeepers, this conversation will change how you see pricing forever. You’ll learn how bookkeepers can price services more strategically, position themselves more confidently, and stop competing with other bookkeepers on price alone. This episode is essential viewing for bookkeepers who want to charge what they’re truly worth! Access the pricing report for yourself, here: subscribepage.io/Fi6w9A ----------------------------------------------- About us We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective ----------------------------------------------- About our Sponsor This episode of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is sponsored by Xero. Get 90% off your first 6 months by visiting: https://xero5440.partnerlinks.io/6figurebookkeeper ----------------------------------------------- Promotion This video contains paid promotion. ----------------------------------------------- Disclaimer The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction 00:00:28 - Pricing History and Current Situation 00:01:47 - Understanding the Value of Bookkeeping 00:02:41 - The Problem with Hourly Rate 00:05:35 - The Importance of Confidence in Pricing 00:07:04 - Survey Findings and Analysis 00:08:59 - The Need for Fixed Pricing 00:13:17 - Moving from Admin to Finance Lead 00:13:55 - How to Calculate Your Minimum Hourly Rate 00:15:08 - Building Packages and Productizing Services 00:16:55 - Differentiating Yourself from Other Bookkeepers 00:18:34 - The Correlation Between Confidence and Pricing 00:21:26 - The Role of Confidence in Sales Calls 00:23:48 - Moving from Fear to Confidence 00:25:20 - The Importance of Niching 00:27:10 - The Value of Niching Based on Personal Experiences 00:29:37 - Efficiency Through Focused Niching 00:30:15 - Efficiency Through Replicable Processes 00:30:49 - Understanding Client Needs for Package Design 00:31:38 - The Role of Confidence in Service Delivery 00:32:03 - The Impact of Niching on Pricing 00:32:37 - Invitation to Learn More and Reflect on Pricing 00:33:19 - Closing Remarks #bookkeeping

    33 min
  4. What bookkeepers need to know about Sales

    22 JAN

    What bookkeepers need to know about Sales

    In this episode, Jo and Zoe dive deep into the realities of selling bookkeeping services—a topic that makes many bookkeepers uncomfortable. They explore why sales often feels awkward, how mindset plays a crucial role, and why reframing the process as helping, not selling instantly changes how conversations feel. Using relatable real-life examples—from a perfume shop to car buying—they break down what good and bad sales experiences teach us about trust, rapport, and confidence. The hosts outline the differences between marketing and sales, explain how to guide prospects with empathy and clarity, and share practical tips for managing discovery calls. They also discuss rapport building, understanding buyer psychology, using “with-or-without-you energy,” and designing a sales process that leads to long-term client retention. The episode closes by highlighting the value of the Sales Collection inside The Bookkeepers Collective. ----------------------------------------------- About us We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective ----------------------------------------------- About our Sponsor This episode of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is sponsored by Xero. Get 90% off your first 6 months by visiting: https://xero5440.partnerlinks.io/6figurebookkeeper ----------------------------------------------- Promotion This video contains paid promotion. ----------------------------------------------- Disclaimer The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast.

    25 min
  5. What bookkeepers need to know about Business Growth

    15 JAN

    What bookkeepers need to know about Business Growth

    In this episode, Zoe explores what bookkeepers must understand to strategically grow their bookkeeping practice in 2026. She encourages listeners to “break” their existing business model in order to rebuild a scalable structure that supports long-term goals. The discussion centres on revisiting your original vision, designing systems that function without you, choosing a defined niche, and developing a gold-standard service that truly adds value. Zoe also highlights the importance of business planning, pricing confidently, strengthening sales and personal branding skills, and building scalable systems — including the adoption of automation and AI. She wraps up by reframing the bookkeeper as a CEO, not an employee, and invites listeners to develop their growth roadmap inside The Grace Collection and Success Programme within The Bookkeepers’ Collective. ----------------------------------------------- About us We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective ----------------------------------------------- About our Sponsor This episode of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is sponsored by Xero. Get 90% off your first 6 months by visiting: https://xero5440.partnerlinks.io/6figurebookkeeper ----------------------------------------------- Promotion This video contains paid promotion. ----------------------------------------------- Disclaimer The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast.

    17 min
  6. What bookkeepers need to know about AI

    8 JAN

    What bookkeepers need to know about AI

    Get your FREE 6 Figure Practice Planner at 6figurebookkeeper.com In this episode, Jo and Zoe break down the fast-evolving world of artificial intelligence and what it means for bookkeepers right now. They explore the opportunities, risks, and everyday use cases—from email management and strategic planning to research tools and AI agents. With their signature blend of humour and practical advice, they discuss the tools they personally use (such as ChatGPT, Claude, Notebooks and Perplexity), what they love about them, and how they’ve integrated AI into their workflows. They also introduce their Seven-Step Prompting Framework, designed to help bookkeepers create accurate, tailored outputs that reflect their expertise and tone of voice. The episode closes by outlining how bookkeepers can use AI to add value to clients, streamline operations, reduce decision fatigue, and even support advisory conversations. AI isn’t here to replace bookkeepers—it’s here to elevate them. ----------------------------------------------- About us We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective ----------------------------------------------- About our Sponsor This episode of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is sponsored by Xero. Get 90% off your first 6 months by visiting: https://xero5440.partnerlinks.io/6figurebookkeeper ----------------------------------------------- Promotion This video contains paid promotion. ----------------------------------------------- Disclaimer The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast.

    25 min
  7. HMRC’s Craig Ogilvie on Making Tax Digital (MTD for IT) and the Future for UK Bookkeepers

    5 JAN

    HMRC’s Craig Ogilvie on Making Tax Digital (MTD for IT) and the Future for UK Bookkeepers

    What does success look like for HMRC with Making Tax Digital – and what does it really mean for the bookkeepers doing the work on the ground? In this Leadership Takeover Session, Craig Ogilvie, HMRC’s Director for Making Tax Digital, explains the “why” behind MTD for Income Tax, how it will change the UK tax system, and why he believes bookkeepers are central to making it work for small businesses. Get step by step guidance on MTD for Income Tax https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/making-tax-digital-for-income-tax?Utm_source=6fb Craig shares his journey from a low-income upbringing in Scotland, through 20+ years in government delivery, to leading some of the UK’s biggest programmes – including the furlough scheme during the pandemic. He explains how his parents’ values around kindness and optimism shaped his leadership style, why he focuses so heavily on people and psychological safety, and how that translates into the way he runs the MTD team today. You’ll hear a clear, human explanation of what MTD for IT actually is: digital record keeping, quarterly updates and software-based filing for millions of self-employed people. Craig talks about the three big reasons behind it – reducing errors in the tax gap, modernising the UK’s tax infrastructure, and creating better customer service through more timely data and nudges – and why he sees bookkeepers as uniquely placed to turn that into better conversations about cash flow, credit control and business performance. He also explains the scale of the change: rebuilding core systems, working with third-party software through APIs, and designing multiple agent functionality so both accountants and bookkeepers can support the same client. Craig describes travelling around the UK to meet real practices, how those conversations led to changes like faster sign-up journeys and multiple agent access, and why HMRC is committed to genuine co-creation rather than “rubber-stamping” decisions already made. The episode goes deeper into social mobility, confidence and financial understanding. Craig talks about seeing his dad’s January “bag of receipts”, the construction sector’s heavy representation in the first MTD cohort, and the financial literacy gap facing many sole traders. He reflects on sessions with unrepresented business owners, where a clear explanation – often from a bookkeeper or accountant – can quickly change how someone feels about digital tools, quarterly reporting and understanding their numbers. ----------------------------------------------- About us We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective ----------------------------------------------- About our Sponsor This episode of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is sponsored by Xero. Get 90% off your first 6 months by visiting: https://xero5440.partnerlinks.io/6figurebookkeeper ----------------------------------------------- Promotion This video contains paid promotion. ----------------------------------------------- Disclaimer The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast.

    57 min
  8. This CEO Habit Fixes Businesses Fast - CEO of Dext, Sabby Gill on the Future of Bookkeeping

    4 JAN

    This CEO Habit Fixes Businesses Fast - CEO of Dext, Sabby Gill on the Future of Bookkeeping

    What does the future of bookkeeping actually look like when AI gets practical? Sabby Gill (CEO of Dext) breaks down what’s changing, what won’t, and how bookkeepers stay indispensable. You’ll hear how a SaaS CEO thinks about time-saving automation, why “customer voice” should shape your roadmap (even in a practice), and why the human relationship side of bookkeeping becomes more valuable as systems get smarter. - Learn why Sabby speaks to 2–3 customers every day (and why he won’t “pre-prep” the calls). - Use the “why + benefit + ROI” script to communicate change without losing clients. - Understand why employees come first (and how that protects customers). - Steal a leadership routine: town halls, skip-levels, surveys, and CEO onboarding 1:1s. - See what Dext is building next: AI that learns your edits, plus payments and more. - Reframe the real endgame: automation → advisory → better client outcomes. Learn what AI and Automation mean for the future of Bookkeeping with Dext's free guide: https://info.dext.com/ai-and-the-future-of-accounting-report?UTM_Source=6fb This conversation is for bookkeepers and accountants who feel the industry is in constant change (AI, HMRC updates, new processes) and want a clearer way to communicate value, without burning out. Timestamps 00:00 Introduction 00:18 Sabby’s role at Dext and the business sale to IRIS 00:43 From finance admin to software leadership 02:35 What the gaming industry taught him about tech and sales 04:20 Psychometric insights: adapting your communication style 08:38 What a “normal day” looks like as CEO 09:21 The 2-customer-calls-a-day habit 10:54 “Time for business”: giving people time back 13:56 Time management and protecting your team from burnout 17:11 Engagement scores, surveys, and fixing the real issue 19:02 Communicating change: ask “why” and make the benefit simple 24:28 Small business lessons: why accountants become the first call 26:24 Hiring for diversity of thought (not just industry experience) 30:03 Calling lost customers: the feedback most leaders avoid 32:12 The Dext roadmap: AI that learns your repeated changes 36:06 What’s coming next 37:21 Advisory is the endgame, and why humans still win 39:06 Dext’s stance on direct vs partner relationships 40:03 Wrap-up ----------------------------------------------- About us We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective ----------------------------------------------- Promotion This video contains paid promotion. ----------------------------------------------- Disclaimer The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast.

    40 min

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