The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau

Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.

  1. 10 Aug

    471 - Martin Shaw - The Odyssey, the Underworld, and Resurrection

    I sat down with Martin Shaw to talk about the underworld and the deep pattern of descent and return. He also gave his own fresh perspective on Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey movie. We explored what it means to come home changed, how these ancient stories illuminate the Bible, and why resurrection is inseparable from the journey through death. YouTube version: https://youtu.be/vLHZ-IQzltA Join us September 24–26, 2026 for a summit, hosted by Symbolic World in St Giles’, Oxford, United Kingdom at Pusey House: https://symbolicworldsummit.com/ ===== Into the Underworld: Tales of Spiritual Initiation in Martin Shaw’s online course that launches in September. It's Martin's most ambitious course yet, venturing into entirely new territory: stories from the Bible and the lives of the Saints. The course includes more than 6 hours of recorded teaching from a live workshop, plus a limited number of seats for an intimate series of live lectures and interaction over Zoom. Enrollment will be open for a limited time, and space for live sessions is scarce - sign up for the waitlist at JAWBONESTORIES.COM to get early access to Enrollment. Also, get a special surprise from Martin just for joining the waitlist! https://www.jawbonestories.com/ In this course, Martin will tell and teach on: Joseph, Jacob and Esau, Ruth and Naomi, Blind Tobit, The Voyage of Brendan, St. Patrick's Bell. ===== Register now for the Universal History Masterclass: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/universal-history-masterclass http://www.thesymbolicworld.com Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/

  2. 6 Aug

    470 - What Mockery of Masculinity Really Looks Like: Masters of the Universe VS The Odyssey

    In this video, I compare The Odyssey and Masters of the Universe to explore two very different visions of masculinity and heroism. While one reduces masculine strength to fantasy, insecurity, and mockery, the other confronts its dangers while still moving toward repentance, reconciliation, and the return home. The difference is not simply political. It is the difference between a story that despises the hero and one that seeks to restore him. Join us September 24–26, 2026 for a summit, hosted by Symbolic World in St Giles’, Oxford, United Kingdom at Pusey House: https://symbolicworldsummit.com/ Register now for the Universal History Masterclass: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/universal-history-masterclass Price: $180 USD (Get 10% off if you're an Involved patron) Course Length: 6 weeks, 12 hours Live classes are on Wednesdays at 3-5 pm Eastern Time, starting August 5th through September 9th, 2026 🔓 Become a patron to support us and unlock exclusive monthly symbolism content: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🎧 Listen to and review The Symbolic World podcast: -Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0gI8bUwPtT3gkduHqNh6M5 -Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-symbolic-world/id1386867488 Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/

  3. 4 Aug

    469 - Luke Burgis - The One and the Many

    It's not hard to find your tribe. The real challenge today is not losing yourself within one. Luke Burgis and I discuss why we struggle as modern people to belong without losing ourselves, how technology fragments our desires, why family, friendship, and real communion are essential to becoming a person, and also the opposite, that to really connect with others you must be true to yourself. YouTube version: https://youtu.be/bZfRs9TWSIg Luke's book, The One and the Ninety-Nine: https://www.amazon.com/One-Ninety-Nine-Forging-Identity-Contagion-ebook/dp/B0FLYVP6WD Join us September 24–26, 2026 for a summit, hosted by Symbolic World in St Giles’, Oxford, United Kingdom at Pusey House: https://symbolicworldsummit.com/ Register now for the Universal History Masterclass: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/universal-history-masterclass Price: $180 USD (Get 10% off if you're an Involved patron) Course Length: 6 weeks, 12 hours Live classes are on Wednesdays at 3-5 pm Eastern Time, starting August 5th through September 9th, 2026 Timestamps: 00:00 – Coming up 02:38 – Introduction 02:52 – Luke Burgess and The One and the Ninety-Nine 03:19 – The tension between individuality and belonging 04:10 – The lost sheep, the one, and the many 06:30 – Why the modern self has become fragile 08:57 – When celebrating difference turns into isolation 10:50 – Why “selling out” no longer carries the same stigma 12:01 – Differentiation, imitation, and false individuality 12:55 – Choosing a vocation beyond market niches 15:18 – Symbolic World Summit in Oxford 17:31 – How technology reshapes the human person 18:02 – Social media as a source of mimetic desire 20:02 – Why online models become so powerful 20:48 – Technology, distraction, and the loss of strong desire 23:09 – Parasocial relationships and vicarious participation 24:42 – Can religious identity become another performance? 25:22 – Thin religion, online faith, and performative belonging 27:39 – Receiving an identity rather than inventing one 29:22 – Suffering, friction, and the consequences of the Fall 31:56 – Is it acceptable to “fake it until you make it” spiritually? 33:38 – False piety and performative religion 34:51 – The danger of the online “Orthobro” 36:16 – The family as a school of communion 38:32 – Differentiating yourself from your family 40:57 – Homogenization versus communion 41:09 – Teenage rebellion as hostile individuation 42:00 – Rebellion as a substitute rite of passage 43:51 – Why identity must serve something higher 45:43 – The family should not become an isolated unit 47:26 – Does it take a village to raise a child? 48:47 – When political identity is built through opposition 49:34 – Internal family systems and the divided self 52:23 – How algorithms feed fragmented parts of ourselves 53:21 – Monetizing anger and online performance 54:56 – What hope is there for young people? 55:47 – Give young people a name, not a niche 58:05 – Communities we cannot easily abandon 01:00:04 – Choosing deliberately what previous generations inherited naturally 01:02:25 – Friendship, commitment, and cultural renewal 01:04:03 – Final thoughts on individuation and communion 🔓 Become a patron to support us and unlock exclusive monthly symbolism content: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🎧 Listen to and review The Symbolic World podcast: -Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0gI8bUwPtT3gkduHqNh6M5 -Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-symbolic-world/id1386867488 Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/

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Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.

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