Corey-osity Unleashed

Debra & Ken Corey

Corey-osity Unleashed isn’t your typical leadership podcast - no corporate fluff, no HR jargon. Just raw, real, and unfiltered conversations about how we can (and should) treat our people in today’s messy, complex workplaces. With our guests, we get curious by challenging the norm and questioning the status quo, exploring and unleashing bold new ways to think and act about people and work. Expect tough truths, honest insights, a few laughs, and maybe even a well-placed swear word or two—because let’s be real, our people deserve better, and our businesses can’t afford to keep getting it wrong

  1. 15/10/2025

    S2E2 Corey-osity Unleashed with Thomas Erikson

    Chapters 00:57 Exploring ‘Surrounded by Bad Bosses’ 15:01 The Importance of Communication Styles 19:29 Leadership Dynamics and Trust 22:26 The Power of Admitting Uncertainty 25:27 Understanding Leadership and Management 29:30 The Role of Self-Awareness in Leadership 32:43 The Need for Purpose in Leadership 36:08 Cultural Expectations of Leadership 40:22 The Disconnect Between Expertise and Leadership Summary In this second part, the focus shifts to *Surrounded by Bad Bosses* and the everyday psychology of working with - and being - a boss. Thomas traces the path from his earlier books to a “two‑books‑in‑one” format that helps managers and employees understand each other’s realities. He argues most bad bosses aren’t malicious - they’re unaware - and makes the case that self‑awareness is the best predictor of leadership effectiveness because it unlocks people skills and clear communication. Using practical analogies (you need two points on the map to plan any journey), he explains why leaders must know their own pace and adapt up or down to meet others. The discussion covers trust, clarity, and accountability; why expertise doesn’t automatically translate into leadership; how to map a team’s colour mix to anticipate friction (Excel vs PowerPoint people); and why leaders must still lead - listening deeply without abdicating decisions. The hosts connect Thomas’s views to their 3 A’s (Awareness, Acceptance, Action), and the group explores creating conversations that seek causes over blame, so issues get solved rather than recycled. Keywords Thomas Erikson, Surrounded by Bad Bosses, leadership, management, trust, communication styles, team dynamics, self-awareness, purpose, clarity, servant leadership debate, mapping team styles, adaptation, psychological safety, expectations, accountability, expertise vs leadership

    43 min
  2. 12/09/2025

    S2E1 Corey-osity Unleashed with Thomas Erikson

    Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Thomas Erikson and His Work 02:42 The Concept Behind 'Surrounded by Idiots' 07:36 Understanding Personality Colours and Their Impact 12:15 Cultural Differences and Commonalities in Human Behaviour 18:07 Finding the Right Work Environment for Your Personality 23:27 The Importance of Self-Awareness in Communication 29:19 Navigating Workplace Relationships and Communication Styles 35:31 Understanding Different Management Styles 39:13 The Importance of Clarity in Leadership 40:15 The Evolution of Thomas Erikson's Work 45:28 Connecting with Audiences Through Social Media Summary We kick off Season 2 with a barnstormer of a podcast! It was so big we had to split it into two sections! Today is part 1, where Swedish behaviourist and bestselling author Thomas Erikson introduces *Surrounded by Idiots* and the colour-based interpretation of the DISC model. He explains why the provocative title works as a mirror for our own communication blind spots and why most people are blends of colours rather than single types. The conversation explores universal patterns he’s observed worldwide - despite cultural differences - and practical ways to adapt when you don’t yet know someone’s style (“go green”: talk less, listen more, ask open questions). Thomas contrasts natural style vs work style, warns that long-term over‑adaptation - especially across opposite colours (e.g., red at work, green at home) - can lead to stress and burnout, and encourages people to seek environments where they can thrive. He and the hosts discuss labels vs helpful language, clarity vs endless meetings, and why communication - not process - causes most workplace friction. Thomas shares early-career lessons from being a “lousy boss,” underscores personal responsibility in conflicts, and previews the expanded edition of *Surrounded by Idiots* with added material on motivations/drivers and answers to the most frequent reader questions, refined for a wider audience. Keywords Thomas Erikson, Surrounded by Idiots, personality colours, DISC colours, communication, listening, cultural differences, behaviourism, self-awareness, interpersonal skills, workplace fit, burnout risk, mentoring, adaptation, Finnish culture, clarity, expanded edition

    48 min
  3. 25/07/2025

    S1E10 Corey-osity Unleashed with Grace Judson

    Join hosts Ken and Debra Corey for an eye-opening conversation with Grace Judson – a leadership coach, former Fortune 500 executive (25+ years at EMC, Munich Re, HP), and author of The Five Deadly Shoulds of Office Politics. Grace shares how embracing leadership humility and vulnerability can transform your leadership mindset and team culture. We delve into building a coaching culture where managers coach rather than command, fostering psychological safety so even quiet voices are heard, and empowering your people without falling into common traps. Grace discusses her “three resistance monsters” framework for effective change management, revealing why communicating the “why” of change (not just the how) is critical to gaining buy-in – echoing Simon Sinek’s emphasis on purpose. She also tackles trust and empowerment: why trust is the foundation of any great team, how leaders can rebuild trust after missteps, and how true empowerment involves guidance and clarity (not just tossing people in the deep end). Grace candidly challenges conventional wisdom on office politics and the “deadly shoulds,” showing how to navigate workplace dynamics with authenticity and courage. This episode is packed with real-life stories – from Ken’s own lesson in humility to wisdom from thought leaders like Alan Alda (on listening), Brené Brown (on vulnerability), and Grace Hopper (on leading vs managing). Grace even touches on her OHIMA 2024 keynote on the emotional, people-centric side of change leadership, underscoring the human heart of successful change. Tune in for a masterclass on leading with empathy, clarity, and courage – perfect for senior HR professionals, seasoned executives, and anyone aspiring to lead positive change. Don’t forget to subscribe to Corey-osity Unleashed, leave a review, follow us on LinkedIn, and visit https://stepituphr.com/corey-osityunleashed for more insights and episodes. Keywords: #LeadershipHumility #CoachingCulture #PsychologicalSafety #ChangeManagement #LeadershipMindset #OfficePolitics #TeamDynamics #TrustAndEmpowerment #EmployeeEngagement #ChangeLeadership

    46 min
  4. 11/07/2025

    S1E9 Corey-osity Unleashed with Claude Silver

    In a world where workplace culture can make or break performance, Claude Silver is proving that heart-led leadership drives results. As the first-ever Chief Heart Officer at VaynerMedia – and a sought-after speaker on modern leadership – Claude has transformed traditional HR into a people-first experience. She’s now channeling her insights into an upcoming book, Be Yourself at Work, to help leaders build more authentic cultures. In this emotionally charged yet practical episode, Claude shares how infusing empathy, emotional intelligence, and genuine human connection into business can ignite engagement and boost the bottom line. Claude’s Journey & Vision: We explore her unconventional rise to the C-suite and how she partnered with CEO Gary Vaynerchuk to build a vibrant, high-trust culture from the ground up. Claude discusses her philosophy of “bringing humanity to the workplace,” recounting powerful learning moments that shaped her approach. You’ll hear how she turned HR into a strategic People and Experience team, aligning talent development, employee well-being, and business outcomes. Key Insights for HR Leaders: This conversation dives into the how-to for today’s future of work challenges – from hybrid work dynamics to strengthening engagement and inclusion. Claude breaks down why diversity and inclusion in hiring isn’t just the right thing to do – it’s smart business – and how creating a culture of belonging fuels innovation. We talk about building a coaching culture where continuous feedback and accountability accelerate growth. Claude emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and vulnerability in leadership, illustrating how emotional intelligence bridges cross-cultural gaps and drives employee engagement. Whether you’re an HR director reimagining your company culture or a manager striving to elevate team performance, Claude’s stories and strategies will resonate. She shows that when leaders show up with empathy, authenticity, and intentional support, employees thrive – and businesses do too. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe on your favorite platform and leave a review – your support helps more leaders find these insights. 🎧 Want more human-first leadership like this? Subscribe and listen to the full episode at StepItUpHR.com/Corey-osityUnleashed. 💡 Learn more about Claude’s approach at ClaudeSilver.com 👥 Connect with Claude on LinkedIn for daily leadership wisdom. 🚀 For behind-the-scenes extras, subscribe on [YouTube] and follow @StepItUpHR on LinkedIn. Discovery Keywords/Hashtags: #Leadership #FutureOfWork #EmployeeEngagement #CompanyCulture #EmotionalIntelligence #HR

    48 min
  5. 27/06/2025

    S1E8 Corey-osity Unleashed with Garry Ridge

    Ready to build a culture that truly kicks ass and learn how not to suck at leadership? In this bold, no-nonsense episode, former WD-40 Company CEO Garry Ridge – bestselling author of Any Dumbass Can Do It – shares his hard-won leadership lessons and infectious passion for creating an extraordinary workplace. Garry transformed WD-40 from a small business into a multi-billion-dollar powerhouse brand over 25 years, cultivating a culture where employees thrived, loved their work, and achieved extraordinary results. Under his people-centric leadership, WD-40’s market cap skyrocketed from $300 million to $3.6 billion, with employee engagement hitting an unheard-of 93% (compare that to a global average of ~31% – a crisis he calls “disgusting”). His secret? Embracing “learning moments” instead of failures and banishing fear from the workplace. This conversation is a masterclass in trust-based culture building, delivered with the humor, heart, and straight-talk you’d expect from the self-proclaimed “Dean of Dumbassery.” 😎 The Power of Dumbassery: Why Garry proudly runs a “School of Dumbassery” on LinkedIn (and why you never graduate from it – because the learning never stops). Discover how embracing humility and continuous learning can be a leader’s superpower, turning mistakes into “learning moments” that drive growth and innovation. Managers ≠ Coaches: How WD-40 replaced managers with coaches to create a high-engagement coaching culture. Garry explains how simply changing that title from “boss” to “coach” (and backing it up with action) boosted trust and respect – 97% of employees said they respected their coach – because coaches focus on helping people win, not bossing them around. Learn how this shift increased psychological safety and performance across the organization. Trust, Values, and “Learning Moments”: The inside scoop on building a trust-based workplace culture where psychological safety is paramount. Garry shares how removing the word “failure” and calling them “learning moments” eliminated fear and encouraged people to speak up and take risks. He discusses fostering belonging and tribal mentality (“tribe members,” not employees) and leading with a compelling set of values that “protect people and set them free.” Leading with Heart (and a Backbone of Steel): Why servant leadership doesn’t mean being a pushover. Garry and the hosts explore the balance between being tough-minded and tender-hearted – having a “heart of gold and a backbone of steel,” as Garry puts it. He shares how values-based decisions and candid “caring confrontations” build trust over time, and why real leadership is “not a popularity contest, it’s a contact sport.” Creating Legend-Level Culture: How Garry’s approach aligns with insights from leadership icons and influencers. Hear references to Ken Blanchard (co-author of Helping People Win at Work), the no-BS wisdom of Marshall Goldsmith, and the research of Harvard’s Amy Edmondson on psychological safety. This episode is packed with real-talk examples and visionary advice to help HR leaders and executives stop sucking at leadership and start building a culture employees can’t stop raving about. Listen now and join us on the journey to a culture that kicks ass! For more great insights and episodes, visit our podcast homepage: Podcast Homepage: https://stepituphr.com/corey-osityunleashed Any Dumbass Can Do It (Garry Ridge): https://amzn.to/YourAffiliateLink The Right Kind of Wrong (Amy Edmondson): https://amzn.to/RightKindOfWrong Helping People Win at Work (Ken Blanchard & Garry Ridge): https://amzn.to/HelpingPeopleWinAtWork What Got You Here Won’t Get You There (Marshall Goldsmith): https://amzn.to/WhatGotYouHere Garry Ridge on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/garryridge/ School of Dumbassery (LinkedIn Group): https://www.linkedin.com/groups/14633002/ Power of Dumbassery Quiz (The Learning Moment): https://www.thelearningmoment.net/quiz

    50 min
  6. 13/06/2025

    S1E7 - Corey-osity Unleashed with Roland Butcher

    In this episode of Corey-osity Unleashed, we journey from the cricket pitch to the boardroom with Roland Butcher – a man who knows how to break boundaries and build winning teams. As England’s first Black cricketer, Roland shattered a major barrier in sports history, and he’s just put his story to paper in his June 2025 autobiography Roland O. Butcher: Breaking Boundaries as England’s First Black Cricketer. Now an author, consultant, and speaker, Roland shares the leadership wisdom behind that trailblazing journey in a conversation brimming with passion and performance-driven insights. In this episode, you’ll learn: How Roland turned adversity (being told “you can’t do it”) into fuel for success – and how you can cultivate that same resilience in your team. Why burnout strikes even top performers and why addressing mental health is non-negotiable for sustained performance. The “learning moments” behind Roland’s coaching philosophy – from timing feedback for maximum impact to building trust across your team. How embracing a coaching culture and empowering individuals ignites employee engagement, loyalty, and high performance. Why stable leadership and mentorship are game-changers for long-term team success – in sports and in business alike. Roland also draws powerful parallels between sports and the corporate world, showing that great leadership fundamentals are universal. He illustrates how the best leaders put people first, foster an inclusive, engaged, and resilient workplace culture, and adapt to change with confidence. This conversation will inspire HR directors, C-suite executives, and frontline managers to rethink their leadership playbook and step up their game. 🔊 Tune in now and let Roland’s story ignite your own leadership journey. If you enjoy the episode, please subscribe, leave a review, follow us on LinkedIn, and visit https://stepituphr.com/corey-osityunleashed to continue the conversation and access exclusive resources! Keywords #Leadership #WorkplaceCulture #EmployeeEngagement #Empowerment #Coaching #Resilience

    49 min

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Corey-osity Unleashed isn’t your typical leadership podcast - no corporate fluff, no HR jargon. Just raw, real, and unfiltered conversations about how we can (and should) treat our people in today’s messy, complex workplaces. With our guests, we get curious by challenging the norm and questioning the status quo, exploring and unleashing bold new ways to think and act about people and work. Expect tough truths, honest insights, a few laughs, and maybe even a well-placed swear word or two—because let’s be real, our people deserve better, and our businesses can’t afford to keep getting it wrong