FIRST MOVERS - In Conversation

Cassie Roma and Yasmin London

The First Movers Podcast is hosted by Cassie Roma and Yasmin London. It's a community for anyone looking for information, inspiration, stories, and tools to summon the courage (& build the confidence) they need to step off of the sidelines of their lives & into the arena. Because it's the First Movers who shape the world around them, online and offline. They don’t just adapt to change; they create it. By stepping up, they lead, innovate, and challenge outdated ways of thinking, making it possible for others to follow new, better paths. Join us as we help others MOVE FIRST!

  1. 21/12/2025

    The Courage to Go First: Gill Hicks on Resilience, Art, and Building Peace in Real Time

    Note: This powerful episode describes traumatic events of the London Bombings on July 7, 2005 In this powerful First Movers conversation, Gill Hicks reminds us that leadership doesn’t begin on a stage or with a title. It begins in a moment of choice. After surviving the London bombings on the 7th of July of 2005, Gill faced a question few of us ever want to confront: What now? When many might choose anger, Gill chose compassion and love.Starting a second chapter of her life after the bombing, Gill’s work and purpose melded – to connect us, and to erase “us vs them” from how we see each other and the world. This conversation explores what it means to be a First Mover in the aftermath of trauma, someone who refuses to let violence, fear, or division have the final word. Through art, storytelling, and radical compassion, Gill shows how moving first toward humanity can transform personal pain into collective healing. This is not a story about endurance alone. It is about agency. About choosing love before it feels safe. About building peace not as an abstract ideal, but as a daily, embodied practice. For anyone navigating change, loss, or uncertainty, this episode is an invitation to ask: What is the bravest first move I can make today? Takeaways First Movers are defined not by position, but by the choices they make under pressure Trauma does not remove agency; it clarifies what truly matters Choosing connection first is a leadership act Art can be a catalyst for action, not just expression Peace is built by those willing to move before consensus exists Compassion is a strategic choice, not a soft one Healing accelerates when individuals move first and communities follow Storytelling is a leadership tool that turns pain into shared understanding Responsibility begins the moment we realize our actions ripple outward Legacy is created by those who step forward when it would be easier to step back

    1h 3m

  2. 17/12/2025

    QUICK BITE: Cassie Roma on Why Money Is Not the Point — Freedom Is (Why Financial Agency Changes Women’s Lives)

    What if money was never the point? What if it was always about freedom — the freedom to say no, to rest, to choose, to leave, to stay, to breathe? What if money was always about agency and choice? In this solo episode, Cassie Roma unravels the emotional truth about money (inspired by Yas and Cassie’s previous conversation with the amazing Betsy Westcott) — why it’s never just numbers, never just spreadsheets, and why so many women were never taught to engage with it in ways that feel human, safe, or empowering. Drawing on stories from women like Oprah Winfrey, Sara Blakely, Reese Witherspoon, and Melinda French Gates — alongside her own deeply personal money reckoning — Cassie reframes money as fuel, not morality. Using the First Movers Framework (Fuel Growth, Ignite Courage, Reframe Relationships, Shape the Status Quo, Tell Your Story), this episode explores how financial agency isn’t about hustle or hype — it’s about nervous system safety, self-trust, and choice. Sharpen your pencils as you listen, you’ll be challenged to take part in your own gentle, but powerful, 7-Day First Mover Money Challenge. This simple exercise is designed to help you build confidence through small, doable actions — no shame, no perfection, no finance-bro energy. Because when women take control of their finances, they don’t just change their bank accounts. They change their lives.And what’s possible for everyone watching. First Movers – this Quick Bite will help you look at your finances in the long-run differently!Write your First Mover Money Statement and keep it visible:“From today, I choose to engage with my money because ______.” TAKEAWAYS: Money is one of the most powerful tools that women have to shape our lives. Wealth should be about how alive your life feels, not just numbers. Money is not a measure of our worth; it's fuel for our lives. Courage in financial decisions can be built in small moments. You don't need to be fearless; you just need to be willing. Maximizing life beats maximizing money every time. Money should support our values, not silence them. When women control resources, systems shift. Financial agency is emotional agency. Your money story is a draft that can change.  Our First Movers Study aimed at closing the confidence-gap for women at work (your stories, your truth, your first move to help make change) is open now. Click here! It takes five minutes and helps us collect data needed to shape systems. TAKE THE FIRST MOVER MONEY CHALLENGECommit to seven days of small, brave financial actions — not to “fix” everything, but to build self-trust and agency. If this episode resonated with you: Share it with a friend Send it to a sister, daughter, or colleague Start a money conversation that feels human, not heavy Because change doesn’t happen alone. If you’d like to go deeper: Subscribe / follow the podcast / follow @firstmoversmedia on Instagram and LinkedIn Leave a review on Spotify (it helps these conversations reach more women) Join future conversations, workshops, or resources shared on this channel

    22 min

  3. 10/12/2025

    FM Quick Bite: Yasmin London on the Australian Social Media Ban for Under 16s

    December 10, 2025 was a big day Downunder. Australia became the first country to ban social media for under-16s. As an expert in social media, online safety, and work to protect kids (and adults online), Yasmin London has an inside look at what this means and gives us the context we need to understand and navigate the change. It’s bold, it’s controversial, and it signals that we’re willing to go first. But going first doesn’t mean we’ve solved it. It means we’ve stepped into the complexity with our eyes open. The law pushes platforms to verify ages, remove under-16 accounts by December 2025, and finally take responsibility for designing safer systems. That’s progress. But it isn’t the full answer. Yes, the ban reduces exposure to bullying, harmful content, addictive features, and the mental health impacts that come with them. But it also risks isolating teens who rely on digital spaces, and it could push young people towards corners of the internet with even less oversight. And the deeper problem remains untouched. This moment matters because it forces a bigger national conversation. If we’re willing to be first, we must also be willing to go further. To redesign digital spaces with intention. To set standards that protect young people without shutting them out. And, to build systems that balance safety, connection, autonomy, and reality. The real test isn’t the ban. It’s what we, as a country, choose to build next.

    12 min

  4. 30/11/2025

    Making Money Move: In Conversation with Betsy Westcott (Financial Freedom, Fiscal Fallacies & First Movers)

    What if wealth wasn’t about the number in your bank account…but about how alive your life feels? In this electrifying conversation, Cassie and Yasmin sit down with the phenomenal Betsy Westcott — money educator, advocate for educating women, and unapologetic disruptor of the “good girls don’t talk about money” myth — to explore how women can reclaim financial power in a world that was never designed with us in mind. We go deep on:✨ Making money work for you, not the other way around✨ Why maximizing life > maximizing monetary wealth✨ How women have been historically sidelined from money conversations — socially, culturally, and professionally✨ The systems that benefit when women stay silent about finances✨ And the small, brave, doable moves women can make today to build freedom, safety, and possibility Betsy brings FIRE wisdom without the shame. Join us as we crack open what financial empowerment looks like for the modern woman — ambitious, generous, values-driven, and ready to shape the status quo. If you’ve ever thought “I should know more about money” or “I wish someone taught me this sooner”… this episode is your warm invitation, your hype squad, and your financial permission slip. Your money isn’t just currency — it’s confidence, choices, and the courage to live life on your own damn terms. Hit play, First Movers. 🔥Your future self will thank you. Mentioned in the podcast: Check out https://getmillie.ai/ and to join the waitlist hit this link: https://getmillie.ai/#join-the-waitlist!

    54 min

  5. 24/11/2025

    Cringe, Courage & Confidence: Showing Up in a Chaotic Internet (Quick Bites with Cassie Roma)

    In this First Movers “quick bite,” Cassie Roma dives into what it really takes to show up online with courage in a world that feels like both a megaphone and a minefield. From trolls to algorithms to world leaders calling people “quiet piggies,” Cassie breaks down how women can build confidence as a muscle, not a mood — and why showing up online is an act of rebellion, leadership, and cultural change. Using the First Movers Framework (Fuel Growth, Ignite Courage, Reframe Relationships, Shape the Status Quo, Tell Your Story), Cassie shares:✨ Why consistency beats virality✨ How to build a village, not an audience✨ Why cringe = growth✨ The emotional tax of being visible — and how to navigate it✨ The power of brave women who speak with heart, humor, and humanity If you’ve been holding back a post, an idea, a story, or your damn brilliance… this episode is your sign.Your voice matters. Your story matters.And confidence online? It’s how First Movers shake the status quo — one brave message at a time.

    15 min

  6. 16/11/2025

    When Intimacy Gets a Price Tag — The True Trade of AI Companionship

    This week’s First Movers Quickie has Yas exploring one of the most confronting trends shaping tech, identity, and emotional connection: AI intimacy. Following our conversation with global sextech expert Bryony Cole, we dive into what it means when AI stops being just a tool and starts becoming a partner — emotionally, romantically, even sexually. From digital boyfriends and virtual “heart links” to the growing number of teens forming deep bonds with chatbots, this episode asks: What’s the real impact of AI companions on our emotional health?Are we outsourcing vulnerability in favour of control and convenience?And who’s profiting from our desire to feel seen, supported, and soothed? Please have your say in our FM Confidence Study here. We explore the risks and rewards of this new frontier — and why First Movers need more than just digital skills to navigate it. We need digital fluency, ethical leadership, and a willingness to embrace friction, not just ease. We hope you enjoy this Quickie with Yas!

    16 min

  7. 09/11/2025

    Turned On: The Future of Sex, Shame & Self-Discovery (Cassie Roma and Yasmin London talk Sex Tech with Bryony Cole)

    What happens when curiosity meets courage and a bit of chaos?In this episode, we chat with Bryony Cole—Sex Tech pioneer, futurist, and all-around badass—about the rise of Sex Tech, breaking down shame, and redefining what it means to live (and love) freely.From her childhood as a wildly curious kid to building a career that’s anything but linear, Bryony shows us how following your questions—not the rules—can lead to a life that’s truly turned on. Tune in, turn up and enjoy this amazing conversation! And, if you've got 5 minutes and want to make a bold first move, take our First Movers Study Survey, and help us close the confidence gap for women at work!

    44 min

  8. 18/10/2025

    Who Does The Future REALLY Belong to? Recorded LIVE at SXSW 2025

    For our first-ever live recording at Clear Hayes House, SXSW Sydney, Cassie Roma and Yasmin London sit down with the extraordinary Dr Catherine Ball — author, futurist, and unapologetic disruptor. From her curious childhood and the mentors who shaped her, to her fearless work at XPrize and Vox Helix, Cath takes us on a wild ride through science, storytelling, and the future of technology — including the unexpected world of dildonics and why curiosity and courage matter more than ever. We laughed. We cried. We questioned everything. This episode is equal parts intellect, inspiration, and irreverence — a reminder that being a First Mover means leading with heart, humour, and humanity in the age of AI. 🎧 Tune in for big laughs, big feels, and even bigger ideas. If you've got 5 minutes and want to make a bold first move, take our First Movers Study Survey here and help us close the confidence gap for women at work!

    52 min
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The First Movers Podcast is hosted by Cassie Roma and Yasmin London. It's a community for anyone looking for information, inspiration, stories, and tools to summon the courage (& build the confidence) they need to step off of the sidelines of their lives & into the arena. Because it's the First Movers who shape the world around them, online and offline. They don’t just adapt to change; they create it. By stepping up, they lead, innovate, and challenge outdated ways of thinking, making it possible for others to follow new, better paths. Join us as we help others MOVE FIRST!

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