Perpetual Traffic

Tier 11
Perpetual Traffic

Perpetual Traffic is a twice weekly podcast that shares cutting-edge strategies on acquiring leads and sales for your business. The show is produced by Tier 11 and hosted by Ralph Burns and Lauren Petrullo. Traffic is the act of putting your product, service, or message in front of your target audience…it’s the act of acquiring customers online while also building goodwill, and is the lifeline of any business. So, whether you’re a media buyer yet to create your first Facebook or Instagram ad, a Director of Marketing or CMO managing a team of marketing specialists, or a CEO growing your business on your own, you’ll discover actionable strategies that can be applied today. Perpetual Traffic combines the traffic strategies developed at Tier 11 with the real-life agency experience of the hosts. Listen to real stories of business owners and marketing executives just like you how they overcame struggles with digital marketing and online advertising. Learn how to make Facebook advertising, Instagram advertising, YouTube advertising, Twitter advertising, Google AdWords advertising, LinkedIn advertising, (and more) work for your business.

  1. 1 DAY AGO

    The 3 Big CRO Myths DEBUNKED with Raphael Paulin-Daigle

    Ralph Burns and Lauren Petrullo tackle some of the biggest misconceptions about Conversion Rate Optimization (CRO) with industry expert Raphael Paulin-Daigle. They dig into why obsessing over conversion rates alone can backfire and why metrics like lifetime value (LTV) and average order value (AOV) matter more in the long run. The discussion also hits on how platforms like TikTok are shaking up the CRO space and what that means for modern businesses. Raphael shares his story of turning a passion for marketing as a teenager into a thriving career working with top DTC brands. Packed with examples and no-nonsense advice, this conversation pushes back on outdated thinking and offers actionable strategies for improving website performance and driving real business growth. Chapters 00:00:00 – Meet Raphael: The Myth-Buster of CRO00:00:21 – CRO Myths: Why Doubling Your Conversion Rate Isn’t That Simple00:01:43 – From Fictional Marketing Plans to Real DTC Success00:02:26 – Raphael’s Origin Story: Creativity Meets Data00:08:01 – No Portfolio? No Problem: Landing Clients the Hard Way00:13:53 – From Metrics to Mastery: The Real Evolution of CRO00:20:57 – Wants vs. Needs: When Clients Get It Wrong00:22:45 – The Conversion Rate Illusion: Why Numbers Lie00:26:00 – Case Study: Turning Subscriptions Into Gold00:29:33 – Breaking It Down: How to Communicate Results Without Confusion00:35:35 – CRO in the TikTok Era: Quick Wins vs. Real Strategies00:44:59 – Stay Connected: Raphael’s Tips for Long-Term Growth LINKS AND RESOURCES: Raphael Paulin-Daigle on LinkedInRaphael Paulin-Daigle on XSplitBaseLanding Page Optimization: The Definitive Guide to Testing and Tuning for ConversionsTier 11 JobsPerpetual Traffic on YouTubeTiereleven.comMongoose MediaPerpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Lauren on Instagram and Connect with Ralph on LinkedIn Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review! Mentioned in this episode: AdCritter for Agencies

    49 min
  2. 4 DAYS AGO

    [INSANE Case Study] How to Spend LESS & Make MORE on Meta & Google

    Ralph and John dig into a case study that flips conventional marketing on its head, showing how rethinking ad spend can drive unexpected results. They explore why focusing on Media Efficiency Ratio (MER) instead of ROAS can uncover hidden opportunities for growth. Through examples and real-time analysis, they reveal strategies for reallocating budgets, cutting unnecessary costs, and achieving better outcomes. Along the way, they take live questions and break down how metrics can reshape business decisions. It’s a session packed with lessons that challenge the status quo and offer a fresh perspective on smarter marketing. Chapters 00:00:00 - Welcome to the Marketing Jungle: Ralph and John Unleashed00:00:49 - The Case Study So Wild It’s Practically Fiction00:02:05 - Doing the Opposite: When Counterintuitive is Just Intuitive00:03:36 - ROAS vs. Reality: The Brand Campaign Smackdown00:05:52 - MER Explained: Or Why ROAS is Crying in a Corner00:08:20 - Results So Good You’ll Wonder If We’re Making Them Up00:10:50 - ROAS Walks into a Bar. MER Kicks It Out.00:13:00 - When Saving $7K Feels Better Than Finding $20 in Your Jeans00:15:30 - $425,000 Later: Did Google Ads Just Buy Itself Dinner?00:18:05 - Tracking the Truth: Wicked Reports and Google Play Detective00:20:45 - Why Your Ad Agency’s Yacht Might Be Your Biggest Expense00:25:10 - Margins vs. Metrics: A Fight as Old as Time, But With Spreadsheets00:28:00 - Turning Ad Budgets into Revenue: Step One, Don’t Panic00:30:00 - Final Marketing Lessons: Indicators, Sanity, and Why You Shouldn’t Chase ROAS00:32:13 - Live Q&A: Your Questions, Our Strategy Confessions00:33:12 - Shopping Ad Secrets: Turning Standard into Stellar00:34:24 - Remarketing: When Stalking Your Customers Pays Off00:35:57 - Demand Gen or Demand "Gen-uinely Confused"?00:37:51 - Video Action Campaigns: Clickbait With a Purpose00:38:48 - Gmail Ads: Google’s Expensive Postcards Nobody Reads00:41:44 - Performance Max: Where Traffic Metrics Go to Party00:45:52 - Feeder Strategies That’ll Make You Feel Like a Marketing Chef00:51:33 - Competitive Metrics and Why Lead Gen Feels Like a Marathon00:57:06 - Wrapping Up: The Last Bits of Genius Before You Hit Replay LINKS AND RESOURCES: Tier 11 on YouTubeGet Your Marketing Performance Indicators™ Checklist Now!Tier 11 JobsPerpetual Traffic on YouTubeTiereleven.comMongoose MediaPerpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Lauren on Instagram and Connect with Ralph on LinkedIn Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect...

    1h 2m
  3. 15 NOV

    YouTube vs. TV: Which Is Better?

    Ralph and John Moran get into the complexities of multi-channel attribution, with a strong focus on YouTube's challenges and potential for growth. He and John break down how businesses can better understand YouTube’s role in driving conversions, even when the platform's metrics might make it seem like the weak link. They talk about real-world testing strategies, including post-purchase surveys and ad copy tweaks, to capture a clear picture of what works. By taking a holistic approach, Ralph explains how YouTube, Facebook, and Google Performance Max can work together to reveal surprising insights, making this episode essential listening for marketers looking to scale smartly. Chapters 00:00:00 - Kickoff: Setting the Stage for Success00:00:39 - Cracking the Code: YouTube Attribution Challenges00:01:53 - Solutions in Focus: Navigating Multi-Channel Attribution00:06:09 - Beyond Basics: Why Post-Purchase Surveys Matter00:11:40 - Real Results: The Pet Hair Rake Case Study00:20:46 - Ad Testing for YouTube Optimization00:36:08 - YouTube vs. PDP: Game-Changing Landing Page Tactics00:37:13 - Facebook vs. YouTube Showdown: Which Ad Wins?00:44:00 - Agency Success Blueprint: Building from the Ground Up00:46:51 - Mastering Metrics: Advanced Attribution Tactics00:53:01 - Rapid-Fire Wisdom: Marketing Takeaways You Need00:58:28 - Wrapping Up: Lasting Insights and Takeaways LINKS AND RESOURCES: Get Your Marketing Performance Indicators™ Checklist Now!KnoCommerceShopper ApprovedTier 11 JobsTier 11 on YouTubePerpetual Traffic on YouTubeTiereleven.comMongoose MediaPerpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Lauren on Instagram and Connect with Ralph on LinkedIn Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review! Mentioned in this episode: AdCritter for Agencies

    1h 2m
  4. 12 NOV

    What Worked in 2024 that We Want to Double Down on in 2025 with Eddie Maalouf of BAD Marketing

    Lauren Petrullo welcomes Eddie Maalouf, founder of BAD Marketing, to discuss strategies for navigating the evolving marketing landscape. They talk about how affiliate marketing, influencer trust, and tailored content creation are shifting in 2025, especially for e-commerce, local businesses, and info products. Eddie shares firsthand insights on creating impactful ads, handling post-holiday marketing, and using AI effectively without overcomplicating campaigns. This conversation dives into what's working now and how brands can position themselves for what's next. Chapters 00:00:00 - Kickoff: Welcome to Perpetual Traffic00:01:23 - The Story Behind Eddie Maalouf & Bold Marketing Moves00:04:24 - 2025 Predictions: Affiliate Marketing’s Trust Game00:08:38 - Future-Proofing Info Products00:12:36 - Winning Tactics for Local Business Marketing00:14:00 - Ads That Work for Local Audiences00:17:23 - Post-Black Friday: Next Steps for E-commerce00:18:37 - Upcoming Trends for New Year Sales00:20:02 - Agency Insider: Insights from the Frontlines00:23:47 - Effective Media Buying00:28:10 - AI’s Role in Shaping Marketing00:32:09 - The Evolution of Interactive Advertising00:37:16 - Final Predictions and Takeaways LINKS AND RESOURCES: Eddie Maalouf on LinkedInBAD MarketingTier 11 JobsPerpetual Traffic on YouTubeTiereleven.comMongoose MediaPerpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Lauren on Instagram and Connect with Ralph on LinkedIn Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review! Mentioned in this episode: AdCritter for Agencies

    41 min
  5. 8 NOV

    The 3 Most Frequently Asked Questions from Marketers Answered!

    Ralph talks about the big questions clients are asking as they gear up for 2025: planning strategies, managing campaign expectations, and optimizing ad performance. He breaks down examples from brands across various sectors—covering everything from case studies on large national brands to niche and hospitality businesses. Ralph shares insights on how Tier 11 approaches campaign iterations, creative strategies for user-generated content, and the layered landscape of influencer marketing. This episode is packed with straightforward, no-nonsense advice for making solid marketing moves that can set businesses up for a strong start to the new year. Chapters 00:00:00 - Introduction and Solo Host Spotlight00:00:35 - Preparing for Strategic Shifts in 202500:01:55 - Frequently Asked Client Questions00:03:49 - National Brand Case Study00:07:29 - Insights from a Hospitality Sector Case00:11:10 - Success Story: Niche Business Tactics00:14:42 - Mastering Campaign Frequency & Strategy00:19:16 - Creating Powerful UGC Content00:25:30 - Levels of Influence: A Guide to Marketing Strategies00:29:35 - Final Thoughts and Audience Connection LINKS AND RESOURCES: Episode 638: The 2-Step Google Strategy to Blow Up Your Service or Lead Gen BusinessEpisode 637: [‘Case’ Case Study] How Tier 11 Grew this eComm Brand 40% in 6 MonthsTier 11 on YouTubeGet Your Marketing Performance Indicators™ Checklist Now!BilloYotpoTier 11 JobsPerpetual Traffic on YouTubeTiereleven.comMongoose MediaPerpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Lauren on Instagram and Connect with Ralph on LinkedIn Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review! Mentioned in this episode: AdCritter for Agencies

    33 min
  6. 5 NOV

    7 Key Takeaways to Supercharge Your Business Growth from The Smart Marketer Conference

    Ralph and Lauren talk about the value of in-person connections and insights from recent conferences. Ralph shares his experiences from a Smart Marketer event, pointing out the importance of networking beyond scheduled sessions and the impact of an engaged audience. Lauren adds her perspective, gearing up for WebinarCon, where she anticipates learning cutting-edge techniques in webinar funneling. Together, they discuss key takeaways, from maximizing product launches through presales to scaling service offerings without sacrificing quality. Their shared stories have a central message: success often lies in connecting authentically, refining strategies, and staying open to new approaches in marketing and business growth. Chapters 00:00:00 - Welcome to the Perpetual Traffic Podcast00:00:29 - Conference Insights and Energizing Takeaways00:01:29 - WebinarCon: The Power of Webinars00:05:50 - Smart Marketer Event Highlights00:09:52 - Networking and Making Connections00:13:31 - Pre-Sales Strategy for E-commerce00:17:52 - Limited Batch Launch Strategy00:19:13 - Pre-Selling Courses: Lessons Learned00:21:16 - Niche Down to Scale Up00:24:37 - Cutting Through the Noise00:27:25 - Optimizing Appointment Bookings00:34:52 - Concluding Thoughts and Takeaways LINKS AND RESOURCES: Tier 11 on YouTubeGet Your Marketing Performance Indicators™ Checklist Now!WebinarconEpisode 634: Fire Your Overpriced Marketing Consultant & Use AI The RIGHT Way with Russ Henneberry Tier 11 JobsPerpetual Traffic on YouTubeTiereleven.comMongoose MediaPerpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Lauren on Instagram and Connect with Ralph on LinkedIn Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review! Mentioned in this episode: AdCritter for Agencies

    38 min
  7. 1 NOV

    [BodySculpting Case Study] How We Made $2,304,177 in Delayed Revenue on $609,526 in Ad Spend

    Ralph and Lauren are talking about the power of brand-building and marketing strategies that go beyond typical sales tactics. They explore how case studies from diverse industries—like the spa and beauty sectors—point out  the importance of a full-funnel approach, from initial brand awareness to strategic entry offers that pave the way for higher-value conversions. Drawing from real client results, they stress the value of patient, data-informed decisions and share insights on crafting a layered marketing strategy. As they look ahead to the holiday season, Ralph and Lauren also touch on Black Friday preparations, urging listeners to leverage unique, value-driven offers to stand out in a competitive market. Chapters 00:00:00 - Introduction to Perpetual Traffic Podcast00:00:24 - Celebrating Audience Success Stories and Wins00:02:00 - Leveraging Podcasting for Brand Growth00:05:23 - Overview of Today’s Case Study00:08:29 - Targeted Solutions for Spa Industry00:13:07 - Data-Driven Marketing for Better Results00:17:35 - Revenue Analysis and Calculating ROAS00:19:06 - Understanding Customer Journey and Spending00:21:10 - Impact of Brand Lift on Conversions00:23:15 - Competitive Strategies for Saturated Markets00:26:47 - Crafting a Complete Funnel Strategy00:28:46 - Preparing Brands for Black Friday00:31:04 - Closing Remarks and Upcoming Topics LINKS AND RESOURCES: Tier 11 on YouTubeGet Your Marketing Performance Indicators™ Checklist Now!Tier 11 JobsPerpetual Traffic on YouTubeTiereleven.comMongoose MediaPerpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Lauren on Instagram and Connect with Ralph on LinkedIn Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review! Mentioned in this episode: AdCritter for Agencies

    36 min
  8. 29 OCT

    How to Charismatically Market Your Business Like Trump, Cowell & Mr. Wonderful

    Ralph and Lauren dive into the importance of authenticity in personal and business branding. They discuss how letting unique traits shine can create a memorable and compelling brand identity. They also tackle the impact of charisma and the role of bold, sometimes polarizing choices in differentiating yourself from competitors. Discussing that standing out means attracting the right audience and being unafraid to repel others, Ralph and Lauren explore how leaning into one’s true personality can be a powerful business strategy. Chapters 00:00:00 Start with Ralph and Lauren00:00:25 A Quick Debate on Heights and Humor00:01:51 Authenticity in the World of Social Media00:03:09 Unpacking the Power of Charisma00:03:41 Goodreads Goals and Personal Ambitions00:04:12 Inside Lauren’s Marketing Mindset00:06:05 Why Being Polarizing Matters00:14:45 Charismatic Leaders and Their Influence00:22:53 Navigating Marketing Industry Challenges00:27:57 Leaving the Corporate Grind Behind00:28:13 Rethinking the Agency Model00:28:26 Diving Deep into Client Goals00:28:57 Revisiting the Power of Charisma00:29:40 Narcissism Meets Leadership00:30:23 Relatable Corporate Stories00:32:55 The Legendary Kennedy-Nixon Debate00:35:14 Ryan Reynolds: Charisma Personified00:38:01 Public Persona vs. Private Self00:41:13 Making a Stand in Marketing00:50:24 The Power and Purpose of Branding00:52:19 Wrapping Up with Next Steps LINKS AND RESOURCES: The McCartney Legacy: Volume 1: 1969 – 73Absolute Charisma: How Highly Charismatic People Think, Act, and Speak to Charm and Influence People with Ease (Communication Skills and Charisma Development, Book 4)Get Your Marketing Performance Indicators™ Checklist Now!Kennedy vs. Nixon: The first 1960 presidential debateTier 11 JobsPerpetual Traffic on YouTubeTiereleven.comMongoose MediaPerpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Lauren on Instagram and Connect with Ralph on LinkedIn Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on a...

    56 min

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Perpetual Traffic is a twice weekly podcast that shares cutting-edge strategies on acquiring leads and sales for your business. The show is produced by Tier 11 and hosted by Ralph Burns and Lauren Petrullo. Traffic is the act of putting your product, service, or message in front of your target audience…it’s the act of acquiring customers online while also building goodwill, and is the lifeline of any business. So, whether you’re a media buyer yet to create your first Facebook or Instagram ad, a Director of Marketing or CMO managing a team of marketing specialists, or a CEO growing your business on your own, you’ll discover actionable strategies that can be applied today. Perpetual Traffic combines the traffic strategies developed at Tier 11 with the real-life agency experience of the hosts. Listen to real stories of business owners and marketing executives just like you how they overcame struggles with digital marketing and online advertising. Learn how to make Facebook advertising, Instagram advertising, YouTube advertising, Twitter advertising, Google AdWords advertising, LinkedIn advertising, (and more) work for your business.

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