Fugitive Chefs

Furqan Meerza

I’m Furqan Meerza, a chef who worked in some of the world’s top kitchens, including Mugaritz and Noma. Like a lot of chefs, I hit burnout. And I realized I needed a different way to stay connected to food; one that didn’t cost me my health or identity. Fugitive Chefs is a podcast for chefs and food creatives who still love this craft, but need change. Each episode features honest conversations with those who’ve stepped away from the traditional kitchen and into something new, from fermentation and R&D to storytelling, drinks, food culture, and more.

  1. Do Degrees Actually Prepare Chefs for Food System Jobs?

    1 DAY AGO

    Do Degrees Actually Prepare Chefs for Food System Jobs?

    Many chefs who want to leave restaurants end up asking the same question: “Do I need to study again to work in food innovation, R&D, or the food industry?” In this solo episode of Fugitive Chefs, Furqan breaks down why degrees feel like the default answer — and what they realistically can and cannot prepare you for. Having worked in fine dining at Noma and Mugaritz, then in food innovation and R&D at the Basque Culinary Center, Furqan reflects on education from inside the system — including the fact that he never formally studied there, yet was hired. This episode covers: Why chefs turn to degrees when leaving restaurants What food, gastronomy, and innovation programs actually provide The problem with vague promises like “Head of R&D” after one-year masters Career endpoints vs starting positions Why education opens doors but doesn’t guarantee readiness Why many chefs feel unprepared even after studying What to do if you can’t afford expensive degrees This is not about ranking schools or discouraging education. It’s about clarity, expectations, and access. 👇 Join the conversation If you’re currently studying, considering a degree, or feeling unsure about what your program is preparing you for, leave a comment: What program are you in (or looking at)? What do you hope it will unlock? What still feels unclear? 🎧 Fugitive Chefs is your window into alternative culinary careers and the food system beyond restaurants. New episodes every Tuesday. 🌐 Website & community: https://www.fugitivechefs.com 📸 Furqan’s Instagram: https://bit.ly/4dtiyTv 🎧 Podcast Instagram: https://bit.ly/43ndATO 🎵 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3F6j25A 🍏 Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/43vBtbT ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fugitivechefs

    12 min
  2. From Top Chef to Fiction Writer: Marisa Churchill on Reinventing Chefhood

    20 JAN

    From Top Chef to Fiction Writer: Marisa Churchill on Reinventing Chefhood

    What happens when a chef leaves the kitchen, but not the identity? In this episode of Fugitive Chefs, I sit down with Marisa Churchill, a pastry chef who spent years in fine dining, competed on Top Chef, built a media career, and eventually made a rare pivot into fiction writing. We talk about the realities behind cooking competitions, what TV visibility really gives and takes from chefs, and how kitchen skills translate into entirely different creative worlds. Marisa shares what it was like to step away from restaurant life, move across countries, write cookbooks, and eventually write a novel rooted deeply in real kitchen culture. This conversation explores: The hidden dynamics of competition culture in food media Why leaving restaurants can feel both freeing and terrifying How chef training shows up in writing, structure, and creativity What it actually means to reinvent yourself without losing chefhood Marisa’s latest novel, Secret Spells in Chocolate, brings real culinary discipline, pressure, and camaraderie into fiction — something rarely done from a true chef’s perspective. If you’ve ever wondered whether stepping away from the line means leaving your identity behind, this episode is for you. 🌐 Marisa Churchill’s website:https://www.marisachurchill.com/ 📸 Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/chef_marisachurchill/ 🎧 Fugitive Chefs is your window into alternative culinary careers and bold food innovation. New episodes every Tuesday.👉 Follow, rate us on Spotify, subscribe & comment on YouTube, and share with someone who’s questioning their place in the kitchen. 🎙 Hosted by Furqan from the Fugitive Chefs Podcast📸 Furqan’s Instagram: https://bit.ly/4dtiyTv🎧 Podcast Instagram: https://bit.ly/43ndATO🎵 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3F6j25A🍏 Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/43vBtbT▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fugitivechefs

    43 min
  3. If You’re Thinking About Leaving Kitchens This Year, Listen to This First

    13 JAN

    If You’re Thinking About Leaving Kitchens This Year, Listen to This First

    January is when a lot of chefs start questioning everything. The services slow down, the adrenaline fades, and suddenly the thought appears:“I don’t think I can do another year like this.” This episode is not about telling you to leave kitchens.It’s also not about convincing you to stay. It’s about slowing the moment down before exhaustion turns into a decision you don’t fully understand yet. In this short solo episode, I talk about:• why January decisions often feel urgent but aren’t always clear• the difference between being exhausted and being finished• what chefs are usually reacting to when they say “I’m done”• why many exits fail to fix the real problem• what a non-destructive next step actually looks like You don’t need to decide your future in January.You just need to understand what you’re responding to, and from what state you’re making the decision. If this resonates, feel free to leave a comment or a short review. Even one line helps this podcast reach other chefs quietly asking the same questions. 🎧 Fugitive Chefs is your window into alternative culinary careers and bold food innovation.New episodes every Tuesday. 👉 Follow, rate us on Spotify, subscribe and comment on YouTube, and share this with someone who’s questioning their place in the kitchen. 🎙 Hosted by Furqan from the Fugitive Chefs Podcast 📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@fugitivechefs📸 Furqan’s Instagram: https://bit.ly/4dtiyTv🎧 Podcast Instagram: https://bit.ly/43ndATO🎵 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3F6j25A🍏 Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/43vBtbT

    17 min
  4. From Noma Fermentation to Food Tech: How Lorenzo Tirelli Is Scaling Flavor with Reduced

    17/12/2025

    From Noma Fermentation to Food Tech: How Lorenzo Tirelli Is Scaling Flavor with Reduced

    In this episode, Furqan speaks with Lorenzo Tirelli — R&D Manager at Reduced (Copenhagen), a food tech company transforming upcycled ingredients into deeply flavorful, additive-free fermented broths using koji.Lorenzo’s path is anything but linear. He dropped out of pharmaceutical chemistry in Rome, trained in kitchens across Italy, Uruguay, and France, worked in Noma’s fermentation lab, earned a Master’s in Food Innovation & Health in Copenhagen — and now leads R&D at a venture-backed food tech scale-up.We talk about:• Leaving science for kitchens — and returning to science through food• Early formative cooking experiences, from fire-based cooking in Uruguay to farm-to-table projects in Rome• What actually happens inside Noma’s fermentation lab• Why fermentation is both craft and controlled science• How upcycled supply chains really work at scale• What chefs lose — and gain — when flavor is standardized• Why clean-label, additive-free products still require deep technical rigor• The role of R&D chefs in shaping future food systems• Work-life balance, parenthood, and why many chefs leave restaurants• How to translate chef intuition into scalable food innovationThis is a conversation about fermentation beyond trend, scaling artisanal flavor responsibly, and building a chef-led career outside the brigade without losing identity.🎧 Fugitive Chefs is your window into alternative culinary careers and bold food innovation. New episodes every Tuesday.👉 Follow, rate us on Spotify, subscribe & comment on YouTube, and share with someone who’s questioning their place in the kitchen.🎙 Hosted by Furqan from the Fugitive Chefs Podcast📸 Furqan’s Instagram: https://bit.ly/4dtiyTv🎧 Podcast Instagram: https://bit.ly/43ndATO🎵 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3F6j25A🍏 Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/43vBtbT🔗 Connect with LorenzoReduced: https://reducedfood.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lorenzo-tirelli-b58a35232/Instagram: @lollo.tirelli

    52 min
  5. Celiac to CEO: How Dylan McDonnell Built Foodini to Fix Dining for Millions

    25/11/2025

    Celiac to CEO: How Dylan McDonnell Built Foodini to Fix Dining for Millions

    In this episode, Furqan speaks with Dylan McDonnell — founder & CEO of Foodini, an AI-powered platform fixing one of the most overlooked problems in restaurants: ingredient transparency. Diagnosed with celiac disease at age 10, Dylan spent years navigating a dining world that wasn’t built for people like him.Instead of accepting it, he turned that frustration into a company now helping restaurants, stadiums, and foodservice groups protect diners, reduce mistakes, and unlock new revenue. We talk about:• Why allergens and intolerances are a massive market restaurants still ignore• The hidden operational costs of “I think it’s gluten-free”• How Foodini uses AI + dietitians to map every ingredient in every dish• What new regulations in the US and EU mean for the future of menus• Why diners are demanding personalization — and how restaurants can adapt• The truth about food allergies, tech fear, and the rising “food as medicine” movement• How chefs can turn personal struggles into actual food innovation This is a conversation about lived experience → innovation, the future of personalized dining, and how technology can make the food system safer without replacing humans. 🎧 Fugitive Chefs is your window into alternative culinary careers and bold food innovation. New episodes every Tuesday.👉 Follow, rate us on Spotify, subscribe & comment on YouTube, and share with someone who dreams of cooking differently.🎙 Hosted by Furqan from the Fugitive Chefs Podcast📸 Furqan’s Instagram: ⁠https://bit.ly/4dtiyTv🎧 Podcast Instagram: ⁠https://bit.ly/43ndATO🎵 Spotify: ⁠https://spoti.fi/3F6j25A🍏 Apple Podcasts: ⁠https://apple.co/43vBtbT 🔗 Connect with DylanFoodini: https://foodini.co/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylan-mcdonnell/

    46 min

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I’m Furqan Meerza, a chef who worked in some of the world’s top kitchens, including Mugaritz and Noma. Like a lot of chefs, I hit burnout. And I realized I needed a different way to stay connected to food; one that didn’t cost me my health or identity. Fugitive Chefs is a podcast for chefs and food creatives who still love this craft, but need change. Each episode features honest conversations with those who’ve stepped away from the traditional kitchen and into something new, from fermentation and R&D to storytelling, drinks, food culture, and more.