Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks

BKBT Productions

Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks is the tech podcast about humans. Hosted by George K and George A, this podcast examines AI, infrastructure, technology adoption, and the broader implications of tech developments through both guest interviews and news commentary.Our guests bring honest perspectives on what's working, what's broken, and new ways to examine the roles and impacts of technology in our lives. We challenge conventional tech industry narratives and dig into real-world consequences over hype. Whether you're deeply technical or just trying to understand how technology shapes society, this show will make you think critically about where we're headed and who's getting left behind.

  1. The token math ain't mathin', so time to get back to what makes us human

    Jun 1

    The token math ain't mathin', so time to get back to what makes us human

    The hype machine spent two years telling us AI was coming for your job. Now it's quietly walking that back. Why now? Follow the money. On this week's system update, George K. and George A. pull apart the vibe shift happening at the top of the AI economy: from Uber's COO admitting he can't draw a line between token spend and shipped features, to the broader reckoning hitting every CFO who signed a three-year AI contract without modeling what agentic workflows actually cost. The subsidized era is over. The bill is due. And nobody has a clean answer. But the harder question underneath all of it isn't economic. It's human. What happens when an industry skips straight from "how big can we make it" to "what are humans even for" without stopping to answer either? The two Georges reckon with soft skills being repackaged as vital skills, the neoliberal bargain sold to a generation of college graduates, and what Pope Leo's 42,000+word encyclical on human dignity in the age of AI gets right that most boards and governments haven't. A tech podcast about humans. This week, more than ever. Mentioned: Jensen Huang on irresponsible proclamations Uber COO on lack of ROI from tokenmaxxing Ed Zitron on OpenAI and potential collapse of Oracle Daniela Amodei on the importance of the humanities Jamie Dimon on future job skills What 2026 hiring managers are looking for Pope Leo XIV’s encyclical, Magnifica Humanitas Marissa Alert on business outcomes planning first David Homan on how to build real human networks Sharon Goldman on the small town impact of the datacenter buildout

    41 min
  2. What the AI datacenter build out looks like from the ground up

    May 18

    What the AI datacenter build out looks like from the ground up

    What happens when a community votes no…but the #AI datacenter construction starts anyway? That is not a hypothetical. It’s what happened in Saline Township, Michigan, when a $16 billion OpenAI-Oracle data center was rejected by the local planning commission, rejected again by the township board, and broke ground weeks later anyway. The developer sued. The town settled. They had no real choice. Sharon Goldman has been covering the AI data center buildout for Fortune — not from boardrooms, but from township halls, planning commission meetings, and rural communities that had never imagined something like this landing in their midst. What she’s found is a story that the technology press largely isn't telling: the buildout is a bottom-up crisis dressed up as a top-down triumph. The numbers tell part of it. Saline Township received $14 million in community benefits from a $16 billion project, against an annual budget of $1 million. In Richland Parish, Louisiana, the land where Meta's Hyperion facility now sits was once pitched for an auto plant that would have created two to three thousand permanent jobs. The data center is promising 500. The construction workers are mostly from out of state. And the justifying ideologies — the race with China, the national security imperative — has no finish line. This race has a vague one-upsmanship and a $700 billion spend with no clear end in sight. What Sharon sees coming, and what she thinks the press is missing, is the backlash that is quietly becoming a political force — showing up in recall elections, in governor's races, and in the kind of conspiratorial thinking that emerges when people have lost trust and no longer believe that democracy is working for them. You can read more of Sharon's reporting here: A Michigan farm town voted down plans for a giant OpenAI-Oracle data center. Weeks later, construction began | Fortune Meta's $27 billion AI data center is causing chaos in small town Louisiana | Fortune At the edges of the AI data center boom, rural America is up against Silicon Valley billions Huge AI data centers are turning local elections into fights over the future of energy Elon Musk is pushing to build data centers in space. But they won’t solve AI’s power problems anytime soon Big Tech will spend nearly $700 billion on AI this year. No one knows where the buildout ends Inside a multibillion dollar AI data center powering the future of the American economy

    42 min
  3. Best of: What leaders get wrong about AI rollouts and employee adoption

    May 11

    Best of: What leaders get wrong about AI rollouts and employee adoption

    In the wake of more layoffs attributed to "AI," we thought it worthwhile to revisit this conversation from earlier in the year. Increasingly, AI is being used as a catch-all excuse to justify layoffs without clear return on business value, other than the stock price...so it's time to dig deeper. What if your AI rollout isn't failing because of the technology, but because no one asked your employees how they feel about it? Dr. Marissa Alert is a clinical psychologist who works with organizations scaling AI. Her argument is deceptively simple: the resistance leaders keep running into isn't a change management problem. It's a diagnostic failure. And until you treat it like one, AI rollouts turn into guesswork. High usage doesn't mean successful adoption. It might just mean fear-driven compliance. In this episode, we get into what business leaders and organizations consistently get wrong: the assumptions made about how employees will respond, the gap between leadership alignment at the top and the confusion that trickles down, and why layering an AI mandate onto a workforce already running on empty is a very different problem than a training rollout. We also got into something harder: what it means when employees are being asked to integrate tools that might replace them, and why most leaders don't have a good answer for that question. If your organization is tracking adoption rates and still seeing 20%, this episode is worth your time. Mentioned Jack Dorsey’s Block cuts nearly half of its staff in AI gamble

    41 min
  4. AI is doing real good and real harm, but the hype is hiding both

    Apr 27

    AI is doing real good and real harm, but the hype is hiding both

    The AI hype machine is taking up all the oxygen we need to actually stop the harm happening today. This month we heard from three guests who didn't compare notes. Didn't coordinate. And all three circled the same thing: the #AI hype machine isn't just wrong, it's actively making things worse. Capital flows going to “everything machines” instead applications that actually accomplish tasks. Gas turbines burning methane next to communities already carrying four times the national cancer rate. AI chatbots mathematically, not metaphorically, mathematically, engineered to reinforce delusional thinking in vulnerable users. Deepfake abuse still expanding, still mostly targeting women and minors, still unsolved. This is the real harm inventory. This month. Right now. Meanwhile the discourse is about whether a model might hypothetically stage a coup in five years. We're not doing doomer porn. We're saying watch the industry’s hands, not the mouth. The boring risks are already here. The extraordinary stuff — the farmer in Morocco beating generalist models with expert-annotated field data, the researcher finding antibiotics with true wet lab work — that's also already here! It's just not getting same headlines and the funding. System Check. This month's episodes, broken down against current events and whatever's rattling around our brainboxes. Mentioned: Smaller models find the same bugs as Mythos Stanford HAI 2026 AI Index Discovering a new class of antibiotics Dmitri Alperovitch's testimony on compute Baidu robotaxi outage MIT CSAIL study on AI psychosis NAACP lawsuit against xAI XAI gas turbines polluting rural communities Northern Virginia datacenter health impacts Human Line Project

    41 min
  5. Distinguishing between movement and progress, in AI, security, and more

    Apr 20

    Distinguishing between movement and progress, in AI, security, and more

    Are tech industries selling us a problems they invented? Ryan Clarque, CSO at Black Rifle Coffee Company, doesn't flinch at the big provocations. When Claude's Mythos model showed up in every LinkedIn feed promising a software apocalypse, Ryan's take was blunt: the basics were broken before Mythos, and they'll still be broken after it. The real question about a powerful AI model, it’s whether you've built a program capable of doing anything about them when it does. But the conversation doesn't stop at hype-busting. Ryan has quietly done something the industry insists can't be done: built a lean, two-person security operation that ditched the big-ticket SIEM vendors, took control of its own telemetry, and outperformed programs with ten times the headcount and budget. When one of those vendors found out, they sent their "heavy hitter" to prove Ryan wrong, who left agreeing Ryan didn't need them. What emerges is a portrait of a practitioner who learned to distinguish progress from movement — and who thinks most of the industry is confusing the two. The procurement cycle, the Gartner roadmap, the sequence of investments you're told you must make: Ryan's argument is that inertia dressed up as strategy has left small security teams demoralized and over-leveraged, and that the fix is less about budget and more about the willingness to build your own way out. And then, at the end of a week of planes and conferences, Ryan says something that reframes all of it. The reason he doesn't chase the car or the watch or the title isn't asceticism — it's that working in security means observing the worst of what people do to each other, and the only way to stay functional is to invest hard in what actually holds. Time. Trust. People who remember how you made them feel. Mentioned: Cal Newport on Mythos vs other LLMs in finding software vulnerabilities

    45 min

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Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks is the tech podcast about humans. Hosted by George K and George A, this podcast examines AI, infrastructure, technology adoption, and the broader implications of tech developments through both guest interviews and news commentary.Our guests bring honest perspectives on what's working, what's broken, and new ways to examine the roles and impacts of technology in our lives. We challenge conventional tech industry narratives and dig into real-world consequences over hype. Whether you're deeply technical or just trying to understand how technology shapes society, this show will make you think critically about where we're headed and who's getting left behind.

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