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How do you go forward when the past is breathing down your neck? Carvell Wallace talks to Americans grappling with the state of the union while trying to reconcile his own family's fractured history. If America is an estranged family, this show is our awkward holiday dinner.

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    • 4.7 • 19 Ratings

How do you go forward when the past is breathing down your neck? Carvell Wallace talks to Americans grappling with the state of the union while trying to reconcile his own family's fractured history. If America is an estranged family, this show is our awkward holiday dinner.

    Closer Than They Appear LIVE at the Seattle Art Museum, with Sondra Perry

    Closer Than They Appear LIVE at the Seattle Art Museum, with Sondra Perry

    Carvell went to Seattle to record a live episode of the show with visual artist Sondra Perry. They looked at images from her exhibit, “Eclogue for [in]HABITABILITY,” and talked about race, displacement, survival, and overcoming the limits of our imagination. Thank you to the Seattle Art Museum for inviting us!

    • 1 hr 3 min
    Closer and Antique Naked Soul LIVE at SXSW

    Closer and Antique Naked Soul LIVE at SXSW

    Carvell and Antique Naked Soul went to SXSW last week to perform the show live on stage, and talk about their music, its role in the public sphere, and why musicians and podcasters should always work together.

    • 1 hr 1 min
    Closer's coming to SXSW and check out Jetty's new show!

    Closer's coming to SXSW and check out Jetty's new show!

    Carvell will be onstage with Antique Naked Soul at SXSW in Austin, TX on Wednesday, March 14, 5-6pm CT. Can’t be there in person? Listen in on TuneIn LIVE.

    PLUS: subscribe to Jetty’s newest show, Game of Our Lives.

    • 1 min
    What's next? (with Alexis Frank)

    What's next? (with Alexis Frank)

    How do you feel about the future? Do you feel hopeful? Do you feel scared? Can we move forward together as a country? In our Season 1 finale, Carvell Wallace reflects on his journey, connects with his kids about their vision for the future, and gathers insight from Alexis Frank, a 27-year old army veteran who wants to make political change.

    • 30 min
    What can I give? (with Eva Paterson and Aunt Bea)

    What can I give? (with Eva Paterson and Aunt Bea)

    How do you stand against evil, but not the evildoer? How do you go to war for what's right with love for the people you're fighting? Carvell Wallace talks with legendary civil rights lawyer and activist Eva Paterson. And at long last, he also reconnects with his Aunt Bea — the white woman who partially raised him — for the first time in nearly 20 years.

    • 38 min
    Is this worth it? (with Van Jones and Rabia Chaudry)

    Is this worth it? (with Van Jones and Rabia Chaudry)

    Do you love America? No, seriously, Carvell Wallace wants to know: do you love America? Today, he talks with Van Jones and Rabia Chaudry about love. Love for our country, love for the complicated humans in our lives, and love for ourselves. Together, they also explore power, specifically political power, and whether or not we can pursue political power with love.

    • 39 min

Customer Reviews

4.7 out of 5
19 Ratings

19 Ratings

Smary1227 ,

Love it

As a white Canadian woman, this provides as great perspective that makes me stop and think and consider. It’s so well put together! Carvell is a great story teller. I can’t wait to hear his interview with Aunt Bea!

maryofthetower ,

Entertaining, informative, and accessible

An exceptionally well-produced podcast that puts America on the stand for its faults without judgment or alienation: like its host, Closer parents with concern and love. Carvell is a professional, honest, and engaging host whose pointed writing and conversational savvy shine in this entertaining and informative work. Arguably the most relevant podcast today for POC everywhere. Looking forward to hearing more.

Name akd ,

Sooo goood

Amazing show, keep up the great work. P.S. I’ve never left a review on any podcast before, but your show is worth it

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