DarkHorse Podcast Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

In this 193rd in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

In this episode we discuss the middle-ground scramble by the mainstream media to defeat those who would think for themselves by inventing slurs like “conspiracy theorist influencer” and “reactionary trap.” Harper’s says that “insurgency” is threatening the Democratic Party. The Atlantic invokes a world in which “mistakes don’t matter, and no one feels shame,” not realizing that they’re talking about themselves. And the New York Times goes after Bret for observing inconsistencies in official stories. As Isaac Asimov famously said, “The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not ‘Eureka!’ but that’s funny…’”

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Mentioned in this episode:

Harper’s: Against the Current: https://harpers.org/archive/2023/10/against-the-current/

The Atlantic: From Feminist to Right-Wing Conspiracist: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/10/naomi-wolf-klein-doppelganger-book/675120/

The New York Times: How to Argue Against Identity Politics Without Turning Into a Reactionary: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/22/opinion/identity-politics.html



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In this 192nd in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

In this episode we discuss how cattle got to the New World, and when and from where, and what that implies about the first cowboys. We discuss the fact that Nature published this compelling piece of research, and Science reported on it all wrong. We marvel that Nature admits that “scientists are under attack for someone else’s political gain”—but are not surprised to find they’ve got it backwards. Meanwhile, the pangolin vector hypothesis for SARS-CoV2 is being revived, and bats are hung out to dry (metaphorically), based on bad, debunked research that was done by researchers with perverse incentives.

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Mentioned in this episode:

Delsol et al 2023. Ancient DNA confirms diverse origins of early post-Columbian cattle in the Americas. Scientific reports 13(1): 12444. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-39518-3

Sluyter 2015. How Africans and their descendants participated in establishing open-range cattle ranching in the Americas. Environment and History 21(1): 77-101.https://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/whp/eh/2015/00000021/00000001/art00005

Science goes full click-bait: https://www.science.org/content/article/america-s-first-cowboys-were-enslaved-africans-ancient-cow-dna-suggests

Peter Hotez in Nature: scientists are “under attack for someone else’s political gain”: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02981-z

Ralph Baric revives the pangolin vector of SARS-CoV2 hypothesis, but you weren’t supposed to notice: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-023-01476-x

Scientific American stokes fear of bats: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-secret-weapon-in-preventing-the-next-pandemic-fruit-bats/

Merlin Tuttle’s defense of bats: https://www.merlintuttle.org/response-to-misleading-american-scientific-bat-story/

Bret on bats in UnHerd, June 2021: https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-we-should-welcome-the-lab-leak-theory/



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Creon was employed as a scientist at NASA Ames Research Center for over 30 years working in applied physics, aerodynamics, data visualization, computational chemistry, molecular nanotechnology, celestial mechanics, launch systems, optics, and satellite systems engineering. Since 2015 he has been chief technologist at Planet Labs - a satellite imaging company headquartered in San Francisco. Creon is a Planet Fellow at Planet Labs and a Senior Fellow at the Foresight institute. He serves on various NASA committees, and organizational technical advisory boards.

The views he expresses on this podcast are personal and are not affiliated with any of the above organizations.

Find Creon on X: @creon (https://twitter.com/creon)
Fin Creon on Substack: https://creon.substack.com/

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In this 191st in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.
 
In this episode we discuss climate science, models, and assumptions. How do urban heat, and assumptions of low vs high solar variability, affect climate models? Should apparent consensus among climate scientists give one pause? Are non-scientist humans capable of thinking for themselves? We discuss the difference between the environment, and climate, and discuss Apple’s new video starring Mother Nature herself. Finally, we review the move, in Canadian school libraries, to get rid of books published before 2008. What could go wrong?
 
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Mentioned in this episode:
 
Soon et al 2023. The Detection and Attribution of Northern Hemisphere Land Surface Warming (1850–2018) in Terms of Human and Natural Factors: Challenges of Inadequate Data. Climate, 11(9): 179.https://www.mdpi.com/2225-1154/11/9/179
 
CERES: https://www.ceres-science.com/about
 
Creon Levitt’s “Hot or Not” - https://open.substack.com/pub/creon/p/hot-or-not
 
Dr. Paul Offit on the difference between science and science communication: https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1701966873129033985?s=20
 
Apple meets Mother Nature: https://x.com/tim_cook/status/1701732427897491578
 
CBC reports on the intentional disappearance of books from school libraries: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/peel-school-board-library-book-weeding-1.6964332
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In this 190th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.
 
In this episode we discuss Biden and the job he hopes to finish, Covid in the White House and the U.S. Open, what the socialists think we should do about Covid, how Martina Navratilova sees the future of women’s sports, Title IX, sense-making when the experts aren’t making sense, how to tell good heterodoxy from bad, and more!
 
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Q&A Link: https://rumble.com/v3fd8bl-your-questions-answered-bret-and-heather-190th-darkhorse-podcast-livestream.html
 
Mentioned in this episode:
 
Together, we can finish the job! https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/together-we-can-finish-the-job
 
Jill Biden tests positive for Covid, at The Telegraph: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/09/05/jill-biden-tests-positive-for-covid-19/
 
Illness at the U.S. Open: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/01/sports/tennis/us-open-players-sick.html
 
World Socialists seek to “force the implementation of a global elimination strategy.” They seem nice. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/09/05/gsjw-s05.html
 
Martina Navratilova on women and men in women’s sports: https://genspect.org/martina-navratilova-five-years-later/
 
Michael Shermer & Bret on DarkHorse (34:50): https://rumble.com/v3e1039-on-skepticism-michael-shermer-and-jeremy-rys-on-darkhorse.html
 
John Campbell: Pfizer fails to answer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzQjBcoIMYI
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Michael Shermer is the Founding Publisher of Skeptic magazine, the host of the podcast The Michael Shermer Show, and a Presidential Fellow at Chapman University where he teaches Skepticism 101. For 18 years he was a monthly columnist for Scientific American. He writes a weekly Substack column. He is the author of New York Times bestsellers Why People Believe Weird Things and The Believing Brain, Why Darwin Matters, The Science of Good and Evil, The Moral Arc, Heavens on Earth, and Giving the Devil His Due: Reflections of a Scientific Humanist.
 
Jeremy Rys has a B.S. degree in Physics from Bridgewater State University and is a co-founder of APEC the Alternative Propulsion Engineering Conference an academic think tank of scientists, engineers, and inventors who explore the potentials of new physics and technologies including metamaterials, warp drives, ion thrusters, laser induced plasmas, invisibility cloaks, and other "Alien" technologies. - He is also an avid researcher of alternative history and the history behind classified programs and covert operations. He also enjoys researching scientific controversies and conspiracy theories.
 
Find Michael Shermer at: https://www.skeptic.com/ - https://michaelshermer.com/
Find Jeremy Rys at: https://www.altpropulsion.com/ - https://alienscientist.com/
 
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Jeremy Sources:
JFK --
 https://www.youtube.com/@AmericasUntoldStories
https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKwhiteR.htm
https://www.jfkpaine.com/the-story/

RFK --
Autopsy Records
https://www.grunge.com/799514/tragic-details-found-in-robert-f-kennedys-autopsy-report/
"RFK Must Die" by Shane O'Sullivan
William Joseph Bryan Jr. - MKULTRA Hypnotist

9/11 --
The Armageddon Planners:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/03/the-armageddon-plan/302902/
Bremer on 9/11 giving the official theory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLdR87wQK_0
The Pentagon Renovations:
https://digwithin.net/2012/01/01/a-small-world/
"Another 19" by Kevin Ryan
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