De Donkere Kamer

Kaat Celis

Welcome to De Donkere Kamer podcast! I'm Kaat Celis and my mission is to support and inspire as many photographers and photo enthusiasts as possible and to make photography a must have in everyone's life. In this podcast I take you into the fascinating world of photography, storytelling & entrepreneurship. And I uncover the stories behind all those images. Whether you are an established photographer or still at the beginning of your career or just crazy about photography? Get inspired and motivated! Come on, I'll take you with me.

  1. FEB 4

    #237 ENG - Photographer & curator Aaron Stern - New York and curating as an art form

    Recorded in the West Village, this episode of the De Donkere Kamer Podcast features Aaron Stern, American artist, curator, and author based in New York City, working between the U.S. and Europe. We talk about how New York shapes you as a creative, why Aaron moved from photographing to curating, and how presentation, scale, sequencing, framing, and installation, can completely change the meaning of an image. Aaron shares his thoughts on photography in the age of endless images, the importance of problem-solving in creative work, and why he prefers collaborating with artists rather than positioning himself as the central author. We also discuss books as “movies in printed form,” his role as Visuals Director at Family Style Magazine, and why curiosity, conversation, and staying connected to other artists are essential for a sustainable creative life. A grounded conversation about images, process, generosity, and building meaning around photographs. Here's Aaron's website. Also looking for some grounding and inspiring? Join us June 2–6 in the French Alps for an intimate retreat with renowned Dutch photographer Awoiska van der Molen.Not about creating a new project, but about defining your photographic core based on the work you’ve already made, so you leave with sharper clarity, stronger direction, and a deeper understanding of your own visual language. Max 10 photographers · Portfolio check · Fully curated experience. More info here.

    47 min
  2. JAN 29

    #236 ENG - From Magnum Photos to the Brooklyn Museum: Curator Pauline Vermare in conversation

    In this episode, I speak with Pauline Vermare, curator of Photography at the Brooklyn Museum in New York. Pauline is a photography historian, curator, and writer who previously worked at MoMA, the International Center of Photography (ICP), and as Curatorial Director at Magnum Photos. She shares how her path through these institutions shaped her vision, and what it means to work with photography inside a large encyclopedic museum like the Brooklyn Museum. The conversation moves beyond career highlights into deeper territory: photography as a tool for representation, memory, conflict, and healing. Pauline reflects on her upbringing between France, Japan, and Hong Kong, the influence of her father, her long-standing connection to Japan, and her profound admiration for photographers such as Saul Leiter. She also speaks about museums as places of joy, agency, and responsibility, especially in times of political and social uncertainty. This episode is an intimate and thoughtful exploration of lineage, curiosity, and a central question that runs through Pauline’s work: what can photography do; for individuals, for communities, and for the world at large? Want to learn directly from international photographers? Each month, I host a live online masterclass with an international photographer who dives deep into a subject they have truly mastered. These sessions include space for personal questions and honest conversations about both the highs and lows of a photographic career. You can explore upcoming masterclasses and book your ticket ⁠here.⁠

    1h 8m

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Welcome to De Donkere Kamer podcast! I'm Kaat Celis and my mission is to support and inspire as many photographers and photo enthusiasts as possible and to make photography a must have in everyone's life. In this podcast I take you into the fascinating world of photography, storytelling & entrepreneurship. And I uncover the stories behind all those images. Whether you are an established photographer or still at the beginning of your career or just crazy about photography? Get inspired and motivated! Come on, I'll take you with me.

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