Early Miles with Steve Gonser

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Early Miles with Steve Gonser is about how people are built, not just how they perform. Hosted by physical therapist and RunSmart founder Steve Gonser, the show features real conversations about discipline, health, and the early miles that shape who we become. No hype. No shortcuts. Just stories, science, and perspective for anyone trying to stay in it for the long run.

  1. MAY 12

    #12 Clearing the Calendar with Felicia Pasadyn

    Saucony pro runner and NYU medical student Felicia Pasadyn returns to Early Miles for the conversation no one wanted to record. Months after signing her first pro contract, Felicia ran a 32:04 PR to win The TEN in late March… and days later was diagnosed with a calcaneal stress fracture. Boston was off the calendar. In this episode, Steve Gonser sits down with Felicia to walk through the full timeline. The delayed symptom onset. The diagnostic journey from a clean X-ray through to the MRI at NYU that finally caught it. The unusual location of the injury and what likely tipped a manageable training load over the edge. Felicia also shares what happened when she fed her entire training log into ChatGPT and got back the word "psychotic"… and what that prompted her to reconsider about living almost exclusively in zones three through five, skipping rest days, and running high-risk, high-reward when the next five years of residency are about to make that style impossible anyway. The conversation also digs into territory most running podcasts skip. As a soon-to-be diagnostic radiologist talking to a PT with fifteen years of running clinical experience, Felicia and Steve land on opposite sides of an honest debate about imaging, conservative care, and when an MRI actually changes management. They cover RED-S and hypothalamic amenorrhea, why a full hormonal workup mattered even when she suspected the injury was purely mechanical, and how the conversation around energy availability has finally started to normalize in elite endurance sport. Felicia then talks through her return-to-run plan with her ortho, the cross-training base that gives her more options than the average injured runner, and the mental traps Steve has seen athletes fall into at every level — the bargaining, the phantom pains, the slow creep of "just ten more minutes." She's heading into a Cleveland Clinic radiology residency in Florida with two weeks of vacation per year for the next five years, and she's clear-eyed that this chapter of her running will look different. Slower, healthier, more patient. And, by her own framing, worth it. If you've ever come back from a stress fracture, wrestled with whether to push for imaging, or felt the tension between training hard now and training sustainably for the long haul… this one will land. Catch Felicia's first appearance on Early Miles here: https://runsmartapp.com/felicia-ep1 Connect with Felicia:https://instagram.com/feliciapasadyn https://instagram.com/wellfeliciafit Connect with RunSmart:https://instagram.com/runsmartofficial https://runsmartonline.com

    1h 24m

  2. APR 28

    #11 NeverSecond with Bill Armstrong

    Bill Armstrong, co-founder of Neversecond, joins the show to break down one of the biggest shifts happening in endurance sports today… fueling. For years, endurance athletes were told to take in minimal carbohydrates during training and racing. That approach shaped how runners fueled for decades. But as the sport has evolved, so has the understanding of how much fueling actually impacts performance. In this episode, Steve Gonser sits down with Bill to unpack the full story behind Neversecond and the evolution of modern fueling strategies. From early misconceptions around carbohydrate intake to the breakthrough of multiple transportable carbohydrates, Bill explains how the science has progressed and why athletes are now fueling at levels once thought impossible. The conversation goes beyond theory and into application. They discuss what happens physiologically when you underfuel, how fueling impacts performance late in races, and why consistency and precision matter more than most runners realize. Bill also shares the origin of Neversecond, the gap he saw between research and real-world products, and how the company set out to build a system that athletes could trust and execute on race day. If you’ve ever hit the wall, struggled to maintain pace late in a run, or felt unsure about how to fuel… this episode will give you a clearer framework to work from. Connect with NEVERSECOND: https://instagram.com/never.second/ https://never2.com/ Connect with RunSmart: https://instagram.com/runsmartofficial https://runsmartonline.com

    1h 23m

  3. APR 14

    #10 Pushing the Limit with Ethan Shuley

    We recorded this episode at 5 a.m. to catch Ethan Shuley while he’s in Japan living and training. Before running 2:07 and landing one of the top 10 fastest U.S. marathon times, Ethan’s start in the sport wasn’t what you’d expect. He talks through the early days of struggling to keep up, skipping races, and not enjoying running… and the moments that shifted his mindset. In this conversation, we get into: His early experience with running and what almost pushed him away from the sportThe turning point that changed how he approached trainingWhat his current setup looks like training in JapanHow his perspective on effort, consistency, and competition evolvedThis is a look at what actually shaped one of the fastest marathoners in the U.S. right now. Connect with our founder & host: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/stevegonserdpt/⁠ ⁠Connect with our guest: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/ethanshuley/ If you’d like to learn more about runsmart. Personalized running, strength, and recovery plans designed by Physical Therapists. Check us out at: ⁠⁠https://runsmartonline.com/⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/runsmartofficial⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.instagram.com/runsmartofficial⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@runsmartofficial

    1h 35m

  4. APR 12

    #9 11 Second Miss with Elle Orie

    Running a 2:30 marathon while attending medical school is a rare balancing act. In this episode, Steve Gonser sits down with Elle Orie to explore the path from multi-sport athlete in Orchard Park, New York, to Cornell distance runner, Colorado steeplechaser, and emerging elite marathoner. Gabrielle reflects on her late start in competitive running, her development through collegiate track and cross country, and how a strong aerobic base from swimming shaped her endurance progression. The conversation also dives into the realities of pursuing elite-level performance while managing the demands of medical training. Elle discusses waking up at 3 a.m. for runs during clinical rotations, building toward 100-mile weeks, and the emotional swing of missing the Olympic Trials standard by just 11 seconds before breaking through with a 2:30 marathon at the Chevron Houston Marathon. Along the way, she shares lessons on fueling, recovery pacing, staying healthy, and keeping the sport fun even while chasing world-class goals. Connect with our founder & host: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/stevegonserdpt/ ⁠Connect with our guest: https://www.instagram.com/gabrielleorie/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/elle-orie-5444841a9/ If you’d like to learn more about runsmart. Personalized running, strength, and recovery plans designed by Physical Therapists. Check us out at: ⁠https://runsmartonline.com/⁠ https://www.facebook.com/runsmartofficial⁠ https://www.instagram.com/runsmartofficial⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@runsmartofficial

    1h 21m

  5. MAR 23

    #8 Underfueling with Shannon Wilson MS RDN CDN CDCES CSSD

    In this episode, we sit down with registered sports dietitian Shannon Wilson to break down the most common fueling mistakes runners make—starting with chronic underfueling. Together, they outline practical ways runners can match intake to training load, recognize red flags of low energy availability, and shift away from weight-loss goals during a marathon build to reduce injury risk and protect performance. The conversation also covers simple, repeatable strategies for long-run prep, carb loading, and during-run fueling—plus how to trial gels, candy, and drink mixes to find what works. We close with recovery basics, including post-run timing, sleep-supportive nutrition habits, and a realistic approach to supplements and caffeine for runners who want better consistency without overcomplicating the process. Connect with our founder & host: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/stevegonserdpt/ ⁠ Connect with our guest: https://www.shannonwilsonrd.com/ https://www.instagram.com/sportsdietitianshannon/ If you’d like to learn more about runsmart. Personalized running, strength, and recovery plans designed by Physical Therapists. Check us out at: ⁠https://runsmartonline.com/⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/runsmartofficial⁠ ⁠https://www.instagram.com/runsmartofficial⁠ ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@runsmartofficial

    1h 6m

  6. MAR 10

    #7 Going All In: Joe Whelan

    Joe Whelan’s path to 2:09 was not linear. From breaking his kneecap in college to battling recurring stress fractures, he spent years navigating setbacks, under-recovery, and training imbalances. After stepping away from the sport and later returning through self-coached marathon builds, Whelan steadily rebuilt his engine—learning how fueling, sleep, controlled volume progression, and smarter intensity distribution separated 2:15 fitness from 2:09 performance.In this episode, he breaks down the mindset shift that fueled his breakthrough, the decision to leave full-time work to prioritize recovery, and the tactical execution behind his course-record win at the Austin Marathon. Whelan also reflects on Olympic Trials preparation, pacing discipline, race-day strategy, and his goal of climbing into the top 15 all-time U.S. marathon performances as he builds toward 2028.Connect with our founder & host: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/stevegonserdpt/ ⁠ Connect with our guest: https://www.instagram.com/jpwhelan23/If you’d like to learn more about personalized running, strength, and recovery plans designed by Physical Therapists, check us out at: ⁠https://runsmartonline.com/ https://www.facebook.com/runsmartofficial⁠ https://www.instagram.com/runsmartofficial⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@runsmartofficial

    1h 8m

  7. FEB 25

    #6 Sleep (And) Traning with Dr. Jeff Durmer MD PhD

    In this conversation, Jeffrey Durmer discusses his journey from athlete to sleep expert, explores the evolution of sleep medicine, the impact of consumer technology on sleep tracking, and the significance of heart rate variability (HRV). He emphasizes the effects of sleep deprivation, cultural attitudes towards sleep, and strategies for optimizing sleep for athletic performance, including the importance of circadian rhythms and food timing. In this conversation, Dr. Jeffrey Durmer discusses the significance of chronotypes in determining sleep patterns, the importance of recovery sleep for athletes, and the impact of mood on sleep quality. He emphasizes the benefits of light therapy for enhancing mood and performance, and outlines best practices for creating a sleep-friendly environment. The discussion also covers the effects of alcohol and diet on sleep and concludes with insights into the future of sleep monitoring and the integration of AI to personalize sleep health. Connect with our founder & host: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/stevegonserdpt/⁠ ⁠ Connect with our guest: Website: ⁠https://www.happysleep.com/ Instagram: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreydurmer/ If you’d like to learn more about runsmart. Personalized running, strength, and recovery plans designed by Physical Therapists. Check us out at: ⁠⁠https://runsmartonline.com/⁠⁠ ⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/runsmartofficial⁠⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/runsmartofficial⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@runsmartofficial⁠

    1h 34m

  8. FEB 13

    #5 Don't Call It a Comeback: Keira D'Amato

    Keira D'Amato joins Early Miles to unpack one of the most unconventional journeys in American distance running. From five-time Virginia state champion to collegiate All-American at American University, her early trajectory pointed toward elite competition—until injuries, burnout, and an insurance-denied surgery led her to step away from the sport entirely. Nearly a decade later, after marriage, motherhood, and a full professional career, she returned to running with a 90-second effort that would ultimately evolve into an American record in the marathon. In this conversation, she details the mindset shift that fueled her second chapter: embracing failure, prioritizing long-term consistency, rebuilding strength after injury, and redefining success beyond results. She discusses Olympic Trials disappointment, racing strategy, aging as an elite athlete, training adaptations in her 40s, and the value of structured development over chasing quick gains. For runners at any level, this episode reinforces a core principle—progress is built through patience, resilience, and the courage to start again. Don’t Call It a Comeback by Keira D'Amato Official Purchase Link: https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/dont-call-it-9781250344946 Connect with our founder & host: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/stevegonserdpt/ ⁠ Connect with our guest: Website: https://keiradamato.com/hello/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/keiradamato/ If you’d like to learn more about runsmart. Personalized running, strength, and recovery plans designed by Physical Therapists. Check us out at: ⁠https://runsmartonline.com/⁠ ⁠ https://www.facebook.com/runsmartofficial⁠ ⁠https://www.instagram.com/runsmartofficial ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@runsmartofficial

    1h 35m
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Early Miles with Steve Gonser is about how people are built, not just how they perform. Hosted by physical therapist and RunSmart founder Steve Gonser, the show features real conversations about discipline, health, and the early miles that shape who we become. No hype. No shortcuts. Just stories, science, and perspective for anyone trying to stay in it for the long run.

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