The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast

Dwayne Kerrigan
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Welcome to The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast. Dwayne has navigated the business world for over 35 years, owning close to 30 businesses in 12 distinct industries. Today, entrepreneurship often seems more about glitz, glamour, and a celebrity venture. On this podcast, Dwayne collaborates with overlooked but accomplished entrepreneurs, delving into their journeys of forging exceptional enterprises. Join them as they share their personal journeys, lessons learned, and strategies that keep them moving forward. Let’s celebrate the true essence of entrepreneurship and inspire the next wave of business trailblazers.

  1. 1d ago

    163. The Power of a Trusted Circle | The Honey Badgers

    Seventeen years ago, four strangers decided to build something almost no one commits to: a mastermind group that outlasts the businesses, marriages, and identities its members walk in with. In Part 2, Dwayne sits back down with three of the four, Curt Cronin, Michael Grandjean, and Sam Hazledine (missing Keiron McCammon)to unpack what actually kept the group alive that long, and what it cost them to get there. In this episode: Why Curt distinguishes a mentor ("shape me in their likeness"), a coach ("hold a container and ask me questions"), and a consultant ("give me the answer") as three completely different relationships and why conflating them causes frictionSam's case for why "in business, generally speaking, the coaches are not the ones who are successful at business" and what that selection bias means for anyone hiring oneCurt's math on the actual hours he has left with his teenage daughter based on their current visiting cadence, and how that number changed how he shows up for herWhy Sam believes selection, who's in the room, matters more than structure, using the analogy that "date night doesn't work if you're married to the wrong person"The origin story: how Curt, Michael, and Sam actually formed the group after meeting through Tony Robbins' Platinum Partners program, and why Tony himself turned down an invite to joinMichael's take on the single biggest shift that took the group from well-meaning to effective: bringing in real structure and prep Episode Timestamps: 00:00 Mentorship Mindset 00:35 Podcast Intro 01:38 Creating Your Reality 04:21 Beyond Tactics to Mindset 07:14 Accountability and Growth 10:03 Aligned Vision Matters 15:21 Belief and Creation 21:27 Finding Great Mentors 25:12 Mentor vs Coach 28:52 Coaching Limits in Business 30:51 Curiosity Over Assumptions 34:12 Resetting Miscommunication 36:29 Courageous Conversations at Work 38:51 Building Trust With Windshield Time 39:58 Starting a Mastermind Group 41:22 Structure Prep and Standards 43:36 Finding the Right People 47:00 Origin Story and Commitment 51:50 Speaking to the Fifth Person 52:54 Parting Shots and Farewell 59:50 Podcast Outro and Disclaimer LINKS TO PREVIOUS EPISODES: https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/2-from-navy-seal-to-entrepreneur-the-transformative-journey-with-curt-cronin/ https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/24-part-1-curiosity-change-embracing-growth-and-discovery-with-curt-cronin/ https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/25-part-2-unlocking-potential-from-beyond-the-comfort-zone-with-curt-cronin/ https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/5-beyond-achievement-unlocking-fulfillment-with-dr-sam-hazledine/ https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/121-collapse-courage-and-comeback-with-michael-grandjean/ https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/122-forgiving-yourself-and-rebuilding-after-failure-with-michael-grandjean/ Follow The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast for more conversations like this one, and catch Part 1 of this mastermind episode if you haven't yet. Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan Facebook Instagram Linked In Website Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.

    163. The Power of a Trusted Circle | The Honey Badgers

  2. Oct 21

    162. Beyond Advice | The Honey Badgers

    Seventeen years, six men, and one rule: no advice allowed. On this panel, three members of Dwayne Kerrigan's mastermind group, the "Honey Badgers", pull back the curtain on the framework that's carried them through startups, exits, burnout, and grief, and explain why the group that changes them most is the one that refuses to tell them what to do. In this episode: Curt Cronin breaks down "dynamic subordination," the Navy SEAL handoff principle the group uses to know who leads and who steps back in a crisisSam Hazledine explains why "nature abhors a vacuum" is the real reason humans default to giving advice, and why it usually backfiresMichael Grandjean opens up about losing everything and the one thing that got him through it: learning to forgive himselfDwayne and the group unpack the "event, meaning, emotion, behavior, result" chain and how the stories we attach to events quietly run our livesSam introduces the idea of becoming a "mindful steward" instead of a "benevolent dictator" as a business scalesThe group previews Dwayne's upcoming Founders Council program, built on the same gestalt-style mentorship model About the guests: Curt Cronin is a former U.S. Navy SEAL turned entrepreneur and a founding member of the Honey Badgers mastermind group. Michael Grandjean spent 30 years in construction for the Department of Defense and the U.S. government before rebuilding his career after a period of significant personal and financial loss. Sam Hazledine is a physician based in New Zealand and founder of a medical staffing, technology, and research business. All three have been meeting with Dwayne Kerrigan as part of the same mastermind group for 17 years. Episode Timestamps: 00:00 Brotherhood Origins 01:10 Meet The Honey Badgers 02:06 Sam Hazledine Introduction 03:19 Mike Grandjean and Curt Cronin Introductions 05:04 How the Mastermind Group Formed 07:07 Why the Group Works 10:06 Beyond Advice Gestalt Feedback 16:05 Trust and Safe Space 20:07 Dynamic Subordination Explained 23:21 Scaling Leadership Mindful Steward 28:53 Enough More and Seasons 31:41 Stuck In The Middle 32:16 Paying The Price 33:34 Forgive Yourself 35:14 Pain Versus Suffering 38:25 Blind Spots And Truth 42:26 Power Of Story 49:38 Intimacy And Proximity 54:31 Mastermind Framework 58:31 Proximity Is Power 01:02:57 Closing And Next Week Follow The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast for Part 2 of this conversation, and find Curt Cronin, Michael Grandjean, and Sam Hazledine's own episodes in the show's back catalog. Links to Previous Episodes: https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/2-from-navy-seal-to-entrepreneur-the-transformative-journey-with-curt-cronin/ https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/24-part-1-curiosity-change-embracing-growth-and-discovery-with-curt-cronin/ https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/25-part-2-unlocking-potential-from-beyond-the-comfort-zone-with-curt-cronin/ https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/5-beyond-achievement-unlocking-fulfillment-with-dr-sam-hazledine/ https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/121-collapse-courage-and-comeback-with-michael-grandjean/ https://www.dwaynekerrigan.com/122-forgiving-yourself-and-rebuilding-after-failure-with-michael-grandjean/ Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan: Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan Facebook Instagram Linked In Website Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.

    162. Beyond Advice | The Honey Badgers

  3. Oct 14

    161. Scaling FlyGuys with Operational Excellence | FlyGuys CEO Joe Stough

    FlyGuys CEO Joe Stough returns for Part 2 of this conversation on scaling technology companies through operational excellence, culture, and AI. Joe breaks down the four-element operational excellence management system he built plus the cultural foundation of the golden rule and iron sharpens iron and explains how the company's AI data infrastructure platform now serves seven industries through one configurable pipeline. If you're building a company that needs to scale past its current ceiling, this episode is a playbook. In this episode: Joe walks through FlyGuys' four-element Operational Excellence Management System (OEMS) — leadership, individual development, incident learning, and continuous improvement — built on a fifth "element zero": culture.He unpacks FlyGuys' five cultural principles: the golden rule, iron sharpens iron, goal zero, raving fans, and one for all and all for one.Joe details the Waitr acquisition that used almost all of the company's post-SPAC cash within two weeks of going public — a transaction later written down by $190 million.He explains how FlyGuys' AI data infrastructure platform now serves seven verticals (construction, solar, asset management, agriculture, public safety, insurance, and telecom) through one configurable pipeline.Joe shares his networking philosophy — prioritizing "vision alignment" over job titles, including the mid-level ExxonMobil manager who opened the door to a multi-year enterprise contract.He gives direct advice for business owners bringing AI into their operations: don't skip the architecture expertise, and pair AI orchestration with real industry knowledge. Episode Time Stamps: 00:00 Iron Sharpens Iron Culture 00:28 Podcast Intro and Recap 01:29 Scaling Lessons and AI Risks 03:21 Pricing and Org Costs Trap 06:47 Operational Excellence Foundation 10:15 Mapping the Process Day One 13:33 Defects and Incident Learning 15:12 Customer Journey Method 18:53 Culture Principles Element Zero 24:55 OEMS Elements Breakdown 28:20 How It Became Intentional 30:43 Can OE Reduce Failures 32:46 Waitr Acquisition Mistake 37:16 Waitr Deal Fallout 38:56 Mentor Sam Smolik 41:17 Networking Beyond Titles 44:05 Vision Alignment Story 47:43 Risk and Diversification 53:22 Platform for Complexity 57:20 Vertical Workflow Examples 01:04:56 Agentic AI and Scaling 01:12:48 Final Scaling Playbook 01:18:32 Closing and Where to Find Resources Mentioned: Interpersonal Technology: The Art and Science of Personal and Professional Effectiveness by James A. Gwaltney (Author) https://a.co/d/06TD2z2R The Power of Goal ZERO: A Practical Leadership Guide for Achieving Superior Performance by Sam Smolik (Author) https://a.co/d/06CjUZI2 The Daily Pursuit of Excellence: The 4 Keys to Achieving Superior Performance by Sam Smolik (Author) https://a.co/d/03YXAfrQ About Joe Stough: Joe Stough is CEO of FlyGuys, an AI data infrastructure platform serving industries including construction, solar, agriculture, insurance, and public safety. He previously served as President and COO of Waitr, and earlier built Impact, an operational excellence and safety management software adopted by ExxonMobil, Chevron, Total, and Koch Industries. Stough sits on the board of directors of Ducks Unlimited alongside his mentor Sam Smolik, author of Daily Pursuit of Excellence and Goal Zero, whose influence shaped FlyGuys' operational excellence system. Connect with Joe Stough: https://flyguys.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-stough/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/flyguys.io/ Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan Facebook Instagram Linked In Website Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.

    161. Scaling FlyGuys with Operational Excellence | FlyGuys CEO Joe Stough

  4. Oct 7

    160. Building an Intentional Culture | FlyGuys CEO Joe Stough

    Joe Stough built a piece of software that ExxonMobil, Shell, and ConocoPhillips ran their worldwide safety operations on and he says none of it would have worked without a psychological framework he almost let disappear along with the mentor who created it. In this episode, he traces the throughline of intentional culture across three very different companies. In this episode: How Joe's early experience running Dynamic Systems International shaped the fundamentals he built his next company, Syntex, on — starting with hiring a lawyer on day oneThe Interpersonal Technology framework — eight personality styles built on Carl Jung's archetypes — that Joe credits for turning daily blowups with his first CFO into a working partnershipHow Joe's Impact software went from one language in one country to twenty-four languages in a hundred and eighty countries in a single year, landing ConocoPhillips, ExxonMobil, and Shell as worldwide clients within six monthsSelling Syntex to IHS in 2010 in an all-cash deal — and being pulled back to the office six months into "retirement"Why Joe took over teaching the Interpersonal Technology program himself after his mentor, Dr. James Gwaltney, passed away in 2016How FlyGuys runs an "Uberized" marketplace of over 22,000 drone pilots delivering data instead of rides or food Time Stamps: 00:00 Intentional Culture Mindset 00:40 Podcast Welcome and Guest Intro 04:58 FlyGuys Business Model Explained 09:00 From Syntex to Waitr to FlyGuys 14:40 Early Failure Lessons Learned 20:09 Finding Mentors and First Investor 25:22 Interpersonal Technology Origin Story 31:25 Eight Personality Styles Overview 35:36 Thinking vs Feeling 36:17 Choicing and Dreaming Spectrum 37:12 Organizer vs Presenter Styles 38:06 Building Teams and Culture 39:38 Hiring for Strength Balance 40:50 Mentor Legacy and IP Story 48:47 Culture as Career Thread 52:35 Syntex Sale and Return 54:23 Global Data and Safety Index 01:00:20 Waitr Origin and Hypergrowth 01:04:53 Scaling Lessons and Replatforming 01:06:56 Wrap Up and Next Episode About Joe Stough: Joe Stough is CEO of FlyGuys: a drone data collection company operating an Uberized marketplace with more than 22,000 pilots across the U.S. He founded Syntex in 1995, building the Impact software platform into what became a dominant operational excellence system used by companies including ExxonMobil, Shell, and ConocoPhillips, before selling the company in 2010. He later served as President and COO of Waitr, taking the food delivery company public on Nasdaq via SPAC in 2018. Joe now holds the intellectual property rights to the Interpersonal Technology framework and personally teaches it to leadership teams; he has been featured in Forbes, Fortune, and Entrepreneur Magazine, and sits on the board of Ducks Unlimited. Connect: Follow The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast for Part 2 of this conversation, and connect with Joe Stough and FlyGuys to learn more about the Interpersonal Technology program. Connect with Joe Stough: https://flyguys.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-stough/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/flyguys.io/ Resources Mentioned: Interpersonal Technology: The Art and Science of Personal and Professional Effectiveness by James A. Gwaltney (Author) https://a.co/d/06TD2z2R The Power of Goal ZERO: A Practical Leadership Guide for Achieving Superior Performance by Sam Smolik (Author) https://a.co/d/06CjUZI2 The Daily Pursuit of Excellence: The 4 Keys to Achieving Superior Performance by Sam Smolik (Author) https://a.co/d/03YXAfrQ Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan Facebook Instagram Linked In Website Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.

    160. Building an Intentional Culture | FlyGuys CEO Joe Stough

  5. Sep 30

    159. The Space Between Fear & Action | Michelle “Mace” Curran

    At 500 knots each, two F-16s point straight at each other with less than a second to react, one of them upside down. That's the moment Michelle "Mace" Curran walks Dwayne through in Part 2 of this conversation, and it's just the entry point into a masterclass on what she calls "the space between": the pause between feeling fear and deciding what to do with it. In this episode: The near head-on collision during a Thunderbirds training pass, closing at roughly 1,000 mph, missing by what she believes was inches and the split-second decision-making that got both pilots through itWhy Michelle earned her call sign "Mace" (Mach at Circle Entry) by accidentally breaking the sound barrier on her second flight in Japan, and how she turned it into a badge of honorThe physical disruptor, wiggling her toes, that a flight instructor taught her to break out of over-control and hypervigilance, and the neuroscience behind why it worksWhy the Thunderbirds' hiring process (40 applicants, 3 spots, a 12-officer interview panel) weighs personality, composure, and preparation over raw technical skillHer "bubble" routine in her third year with the Thunderbirds, strict self-care boundaries that helped her show up better in a public-facing roleWhy she sees fear as a signal, not a stop sign, and how that reframe applies as much to a hard business call as it does to flying a fighter jet Time Stamps: 00:00 Competence Over Noise 00:33 Welcome Michelle “Mace” Curran 01:32 Imposter Syndrome Pivot 02:53 Bravery And Fear Reframed 07:20 The Space Between 12:03 Near Miss Decision Making 14:54 Physical Disruptors Tool 21:56 Fear Signals In The Body 23:29 High Performance Discipline 29:01 Hiring For Team Traits 33:39 Thunderbirds Selection Process 36:20 Prep Under Pressure 37:13 Working Interview Signals 38:32 Downtime Reveals Drive 39:31 Bias and Perception Checks 41:15 Women in Fighter Aviation 47:13 Media Noise and Unity 50:58 Leading for Bigger Impact 54:56 Self Care for Performance 59:06 Where to Find Michelle 01:00:09 Call Sign and Failure Lessons 01:04:19 Final Thanks Michelle "Mace" Curran is a former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot who flew as a Thunderbirds lead solo and trained the incoming opposing solo pilot during her tenure on the team. Over a 13-year military career she flew combat missions and instrument approaches in extreme conditions, including a station in Misawa, Japan. She is now a keynote speaker and author of the children's book Upside Down Dreams and its sequel centered on fighter pilot call signs, and has written a book exploring fear and decision-making under pressure. She also runs corporate workshops and speaks widely on high performance, fear, and leadership. Connect with Michelle Website: https://macecurran.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mace_curran LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/macecurran/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/macecurran/ Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan Facebook Instagram Linked In Website Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.

    159. The Space Between Fear & Action | Michelle “Mace” Curran

  6. Sep 23

    158. Fighter Pilot to Founder | Michelle "Mace" Curran

    She's the second woman in history to fly lead solo for the U.S. Air Force Thunderbirds and she still describes her early years in a fighter squadron as "classic imposter syndrome." Michelle "Mace" Curran spent years running from failure before she realized what was actually driving her forward, and in this conversation with Dwayne Kerrigan, she pulls back the curtain on the debrief culture that rebuilt her confidence — and the messy, control-freak transition from single-seat cockpit to solo entrepreneur. In this episode: How a moment in the bookstore at the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum led, four years later, to Michelle's children's book What's Your Call Sign?Why Michelle calls her first Air Force assignment "classic imposter syndrome" — and how she learned to tell the difference between being pulled toward a goal and running from failureInside the Air Force flight debrief: how "root cause" and a single "lesson learned" sentence turn every flight — successful or not — into a team-wide teaching momentWhat changed when Michelle transferred to a reserve squadron in Texas right after it had debriefed a near-catastrophic mishapWhy leaving the military for entrepreneurship exposed her as, in her words, "a control freak," and what she's doing to build a real team instead of running her business like a one-person cockpitHow hitting the USA Today bestseller list with her book The Flip Side actually coincided with a dip in speaking bookings — and the lesson she took from it Time Stamps: 00:00 Imposter Syndrome 00:24 Welcome 00:55 Meet Michelle “Mace” Curran 02:39 Why Kids Books 05:24 From Wisconsin To Jets 06:53 Advice For Parents 09:10 Pull Versus Push 14:48 Japan Pressure Cooker 18:39 Reputation And Legacy 21:25 Finding Your Team Role 23:35 Learning From Mishaps 26:32 Fighter Pilot Debriefs 31:32 Debrief Cadence Matters 32:40 Feedback Without Fear 34:36 Stacking the Odds 36:17 Solo Entrepreneur Shock 39:17 Delegation and Control 43:56 Trust Systems Not People 48:45 Building SOPs and CRM 52:17 Book Launch Reality Check 56:30 Entrepreneurship Fear and Freedom 58:49 Closing and Listener Takeaways Michelle "Mace" Curran is a former U.S. Air Force F-16 fighter who flew as the fifth woman and second woman ever to fly lead solo with the U.S. Air Force Thunderbirds. She left active duty in 2022 after 13 years of service and founded Upside Down Dreams, a speaking, training, and education company. She is the author of three books, including the national bestseller The Flip Side, along with two children's books, Upside Down Dreams and What's Your Call Sign? Resources mentioned: The Flip Side (book)Upside Down Dreams (children's book)What's Your Call Sign? (children's book) Follow The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast for Part 2 of this conversation, and find more from Michelle "Mace" Curran. Connect with Michelle Website: https://macecurran.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mace_curran LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/macecurran/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/macecurran/ Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan Facebook Instagram Linked In Website Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.

    158. Fighter Pilot to Founder | Michelle "Mace" Curran

  7. Sep 16

    157. Spark of Trust | Keiron McCammon

    On this episode, Dwayne sits down with Keiron McCammon, host of Spark of Trust podcast, to unpack why that show exists in the first place. It starts with a wrong answer: Keiron went looking for what broke in 2022, blamed social media, and found something underneath it. Trust didn't collapse all at once, it broke in three acts over six decades: first our communities, then our institutions, then our information environment, each one stacking on the last, so no single fix, founder, or organization can repair it alone. Over the next hour and a half, Dwayne and Keiron dig into that unraveling, and why the honest response isn't a solution, it's a signal. Time Stamps: 00:00 Welcome Keiron McCammon - Spark of Trust Podcast 01:36 Why Trust Matters 02:57 Tech Optimism to Disillusion 05:06 From Misinformation to Trust 06:14 Three Acts of Trust 09:54 Spark of Trust Mission 13:47 Community Pillar Questions 17:04 Neya 24:08 Institutions and Business Trust 30:27 Why Small Business Wins 34:20 Earning Trust Locally 35:19 Reimagining Broken Institutions 37:48 Community Care Lost 41:13 New Models in Healthcare 42:51 Building Trustworthy News 45:11 Tech Accelerates Misinformation 48:08 Internet of Humans 51:12 Trustworthy AI and Fiduciary Duty 57:26 Agents Bots and Identity 01:02:07 Optimism and Network Building 01:04:48 Podcast as Information Network 01:08:28 Dream Guests and Mission 01:09:32 From Listeners to Action 01:12:32 Building Trust Communities 01:18:36 Capital and Trust Tech 01:20:20 Mission-Proof Business Models 01:26:20 Honesty Builds Trust 01:28:02 Character and Consumer Power 01:31:53 Closing Reflections If this conversation named something you've been feeling, share it with someone who needs it. And follow the show wherever you listen. It helps the right people find it. Connect with Spark of Trust https://sparkoftrust.com/ https://www.youtube.com/@SparkofTrust https://www.linkedin.com/company/sparkoftrust https://www.instagram.com/sparkoftrust/ https://www.facebook.com/sparkoftrust https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/spark-of-trust/id6807994008 https://open.spotify.com/show/3XYhVqgSkTCGMpUYiRZDAQ?si=befe38707d834864 Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan Facebook Instagram Linked In Website Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.

    157. Spark of Trust | Keiron McCammon

  8. Sep 9

    156. Psychedelics, Ego & Success Hangover with Kelsey Kitsch

    Canada's top female entrepreneur two years running, flying between magazine covers and global stages and privately rocking on the floor with the door locked. Kelsey Kitsch, former CEO of Mind Cure and author of Success Hangover, sits down with Dwayne to unpack the ego that built her empire, the psychedelic experience that dismantled it, and what she found once the striving finally stopped. Content Warning: This episode discusses psychedelics from personal experience. Dwayne and Kelsey explicitly state they are not promoting psychedelics. If you choose to explore this topic, please do thorough research, consult a medical professional, and ensure proper facilitation and integration support.This content is for informational purposes only. This episode also touches on mental health and suicidal ideation. If you or someone you know is struggling, call or text 988 — the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline — available 24/7 in both the US and Canada. In this episode: The three conditions Kelsey uses to unlock curiosity and better ideas, novelty, motion, and high emotion, drawn from researcher Mary Helen Immordino-Yang's workWhy Kelsey builds weekly goals instead of long-term SMART goals, and how her brother Trent Kitch's annual "goal card" shaped that thinkingThe battle between her "ego self" and "soul self" that played out over four hours in her first guided psychedelic experience and what was waiting on the other sideA breakdown of psychedelic experience levels, from psilocybin and MDMA to ayahuasca, San Pedro, mescaline, and 5-MeO-DMT, and what "set, setting, and sacrament" actually meanWhy Dwayne points listeners toward Dr. Dispenza's breathwork program as a non-psychedelic starting point, and the Othership app Kelsey usesThe reframe that closes the episode: "We can only feel loved in proportion to how much we're seen, and we can only be seen in proportion to how much we show people of ourselves." Time Stamps: 00:00 Psychedelic Safety Disclaimer 00:42 Mett Kelsey Kitsch 03:30 Reinvention in a Changing World 05:13 Curiosity as a Career Compass 08:23 Play Framework for Creativity 16:34 Pattern Interrupts and Choice 19:48 Expectations Goals and Targets 30:23 Funeral Mindset and Daily Meaning 33:44 Opening Up About Psychedelics 35:32 Hustle Identity 36:31 Success Yet Empty 37:54 First Guided Journey 38:52 Sufficiency After Silence 41:15 Safety And Legality 42:22 Psychedelic Levels 44:44 Set Setting Integration 48:29 Breathwork Alternative 51:20 Beyond Woo Woo 59:39 Curiosity Over Protocol 01:03:10 Operating System Reset 01:04:58 Ego Versus Soul 01:10:04 Seen To Be Loved 01:13:01 Closing Remarks About Kelsey Kitsch: Kelsey Kitsch is a Canadian entrepreneur recognized as the country's top female entrepreneur two years in a row and named to Canadian Business' Top 25 Under 35 and the Dell Women's Entrepreneur Network's Top 200 Globally. She started in construction at 15 in her father's business, later becoming President of Belvedere Place Development before founding Spark Play. She is the author of Success Hangover, delivered the TED Talk "Play Is the New PhD," and previously served as CEO of Mind Cure, a psychedelic-focused mental health company. She is now the founder of Paramont Love, focused on intimacy intelligence. Resources mentioned: Book: Success Hangover by Kelsey KitschTED Talk: "Play Is the New PhD" by Kelsey Kitsch Connect with Kelsey Kitsch: https://www.kelseykitsch.com/ Linked In Connect: Follow The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast for a new episode each week, and follow Kelsey Kitsch's ongoing work in intimacy intelligence at Paramont Love Connect with Dwayne Kerrigan Facebook Instagram Linked In Website Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed by guests during The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Dwayne Kerrigan and his affiliates. Dwayne Kerrigan or The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast is not responsible for and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information contained in the podcast series. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. Listeners are advised to consult with a qualified professional or specialist before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast.

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Welcome to The Dwayne Kerrigan Podcast. Dwayne has navigated the business world for over 35 years, owning close to 30 businesses in 12 distinct industries. Today, entrepreneurship often seems more about glitz, glamour, and a celebrity venture. On this podcast, Dwayne collaborates with overlooked but accomplished entrepreneurs, delving into their journeys of forging exceptional enterprises. Join them as they share their personal journeys, lessons learned, and strategies that keep them moving forward. Let’s celebrate the true essence of entrepreneurship and inspire the next wave of business trailblazers.

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  • Creator
    Dwayne Kerrigan
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2026
  • Episodes
    166
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    © Copyright 2026 Dwayne Kerrigan
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