The Five Year Plan

Anna Zhang
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A podcast about all the "five year plans" that did not go according to plan. From lawyers turned comedians, to neuroscientists turned chefs, come join Anna in exploring the craziest career pivots and the ups, downs, and uncertainties of being in your 20s and 30s. 

  1. 1d ago

    KAYAM: R&B Artist - 20 Million Streams Later, He's Going to Law School

    Kayam Khalfan is a recording artist with more than 20 million streams worldwide, has toured internationally with Jay Sean, opened for Pink Sweat$, built an award-winning startup, completed two degrees with distinction, and is heading to law school this fall. In this episode of The Five Year Plan, Kayam shares how a missed school bus led him to audition for his school's production of Aladdin and fall in love with music. He also shares how navigated being mocked for pursuing music in high school, and why he believes the most successful people are often "delusionally optimistic." Follow Kayam here: IG: @KAYAM403 TikTok: @KAYAM403 Youtube: @KAYAM403 ---- Share Your Story: ⁠⁠⁠⁠The Confessions Vault ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Tik Tok⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Substack ⁠⁠⁠ Email: annashuyizhang@gmail.com

    57 min

  2. 3d ago

    A Conversation With My Dad: The Story Behind My Story

    In 1999, my dad made a decision that changed the course of our family's life forever. At 29 years old, he was a rising star chemical engineer in Shijiazhuang, China. He had the career he had always dreamed of, a young family, and a clear path ahead of him. But after realizing that the future he'd spent years working toward wasn't the future he wanted, he made a choice that shocked everyone around him. He packed his bags, left behind his family and friends, and moved across the world to Canada—alone. He didn't speak the language. He didn't understand the culture. He had no job, no connections, no family, and no clear plan for what came next. In this special episode, I sit down with my dad to talk about the risks he took, the sacrifices he made, and the unexpected twists that brought our family to Canada. We discuss ambition, reinvention, immigration, regret, resilience, and the moment he realized that success meant something different than he once thought. This is the story behind my story. Thank you, Dad. --- Share Your Story: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Confessions Vault ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Tik Tok⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠Substack ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email: annashuyizhang@gmail.com

    56 min

  3. Jun 16

    Shawn Kanungo: Accountant to Innovation Strategist — How To Stay Ahead In The World of AI

    For years, we were told there was a "golden ticket" to success: become a doctor, engineer, accountant, or software developer and you'll be set for life. But what happens when that golden ticket disappears? This week, I'm joined by innovation strategist, bestselling author, and global keynote speaker, Shawn Kanungo. We talk about growing up in traditional immigrant households, learning to stop worrying about what other people think, and why the most successful people aren't necessarily the smartest—but the most curious. Shawn, who started his career as an accountant, shares how the death of his father changed the trajectory of his life, the concept of building your identity "room by room," and why he believes we're living through the most exciting time in history. We also dive into AI: why so many people fear it, why most of that fear comes from misunderstanding, and how anyone can start using these tools today and become the most dangerous person in the room. If you've ever felt pressure to follow a certain path or wondered how to stay relevant in a rapidly changing world, this episode is for you. Topics discussed: Growing up in a traditional South Asian householdWhy there is no longer a "golden ticket" careerPortfolio careers vs. staying the course Why the most successful people explore before they exploitAI, innovation, and the future of workKnowing when to persist and when to quitBuilding an identity "room by room"Follow Shawn: https://www.tiktok.com/@shawn.kanungo https://www.instagram.com/shawnkanungo/ https://www.youtube.com/@shawn.kanungo https://shawnkanungo.com/ ---- Share Your Story: ⁠⁠⁠⁠The Confessions Vault ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Tik Tok⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Substack ⁠⁠⁠ Email: annashuyizhang@gmail.com

    58 min
  4. BTS: I've Been Made Fun of for Starting This Podcast

    Jun 14

    BTS: I've Been Made Fun of for Starting This Podcast

    This is the first episode of its kind where I'm pulling back the curtain on what it's really been like to build TFYP over the last three months—from waking up at 4:45 AM, to balancing podcasting with a full-time career, to dealing with criticism etc etc. In this episode, I'm answering the questions YOU GUYS sent in: this past week: 1) What is one thing that has shaped me into the person I am today2) How I balance law and podcasting3) Whether I've faced negativity from the legal community4) How I've booked guests as a brand-new podcaster5) Public speaking, confidence, and self-criticism6) The biggest lessons I've learned about myself through this processThis episode is about more than podcasting. It's about believing in something before anyone else does—and having the courage to keep going even when people don't understand what you're building. ---- Share Your Story: ⁠⁠⁠The Confessions Vault ⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Tik Tok⁠⁠ |⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Substack ⁠⁠ Email: annashuyizhang@gmail.com

    50 min
  5. Kath Smith: Thirty, Flirty, and Thriving — Starting Over in Her 30s After Spending Her 20s as a Caregiver

    Jun 2

    Kath Smith: Thirty, Flirty, and Thriving — Starting Over in Her 30s After Spending Her 20s as a Caregiver

    Most of us grew up being fed this idea that our lives have to be figured out by the time we’re 30 — house, spouse, kids, stable job, the whole checklist. But today’s guest, Kath Smith, dispels that mythical timeline. At 26 years old, Kath became a full-time caregiver to her then-boyfriend after he suffered a traumatic brain injury. She cared for him over the next 4.5 years as he underwent 66 surgeries. Then, after nearly 12 years together, the relationship ended. Suddenly, Kath found herself “starting over” in her 30s — rebuilding her identity and learning who she was again. In this episode, Kath opens up about what it was like to put her life on pause to become a caregiver in her 20s, going back to school and becoming an HR intern at 29, and everything in between— all while building a platform as a full-time content creator. Kath also shares why she now creates content about being 33 and figuring life out in real time: to remind people that there is no "deadline" for building a meaningful life, that you are never “too old” to make a change, and that some of the best chapters of your life can begin later than you expected. Follow Kath here: https://www.instagram.com/kathhsmithh/ https://www.tiktok.com/@kathhsmithh https://www.youtube.com/@kathhsmithh

    1h 12m
  6. I Love My Job. So Why Am I Struggling?

    May 19

    I Love My Job. So Why Am I Struggling?

    They say misery is reserved for those who hate their jobs, hate their careers, hate their colleagues, hate their bosses, hate their hours etc etc etc.... or is it? In this episode, Anna explores a different kind of struggle: what it’s like to genuinely love your job, believe in what you’re doing, and still feel like you’re falling apart underneath it all. The lows hit harder than you ever expected. Your anxiety is through the roof. Your identity becomes completely tangled up in your work. And because nothing is technically “wrong,” it becomes even harder to explain why you’re struggling so much. This conversation is for anyone who’s ever thought: “nothing's technically wrong… so why do I still feel this way?” Links to Articles Referenced: Two Types of Passion Passion Study

    43 min
  7. Henna Choi: The Life-or-Death Decision to Quit Being a Lawyer

    May 12

    Henna Choi: The Life-or-Death Decision to Quit Being a Lawyer

    For Henna Choi, leaving her career as a personal injury lawyer was literally matter of life or death. For years, Henna tried to do everything “right.” She went to law school, built a successful career, and appeared to be thriving in the public eye. But behind closed doors, she was falling apart. In this episode , Anna sits down with Henna to talk about the hidden reality behind her viral “depressed lawyer” videos, her stint working as a barista after quitting law, and being diagnosed with autism in adulthood. Henna opens up about growing up in an immigrant household where success felt non-negotiable, masking her neurodivergence for years, and quietly struggling while appearing “high-functioning” on the outside. She speaks candidly about burnout, depression, suicidal ideation, and the loneliness of living a life that never felt authentic. Follow Henna here: https://www.instagram.com/18hens/ https://www.tiktok.com/@18hens https://www.youtube.com/@18hens

    1 hr
  8. Jules the Lawyer: Corporate Lawyer Turned Famous Person

    May 5

    Jules the Lawyer: Corporate Lawyer Turned Famous Person

    How does a corporate lawyer become a famous person? Today, Jules Romano sits down with Anna to unpack the real story behind the transition—from billable hours to building a personal brand on the internet. What started as sarcastic, off-the-cuff videos quickly turned into a loyal following, a public identity, and a completely different career path. In this episode, Jules reveals the parts of her life and story that haven't been visible to the public. Join them as they talk about: burnout, internet scrutiny, and what it's actually like to live the "Hannah Montana" double-life as a lawyer and content creator. Also watch this episode if you want to know how she actually finds her best thrift gems (and how you can too). Follow Jules here: https://www.instagram.com/julesthelawyer/ https://www.tiktok.com/@julesthelawyer https://www.youtube.com/@julesthelawyer

    57 min
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A podcast about all the "five year plans" that did not go according to plan. From lawyers turned comedians, to neuroscientists turned chefs, come join Anna in exploring the craziest career pivots and the ups, downs, and uncertainties of being in your 20s and 30s. 

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  • Creator
    Anna Zhang
  • Years Active
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  • Episodes
    15
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Anna Zhang
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    The Five Year Plan

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