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Meag and Cole

Two besties in our thirties. We're figuring it out with you.

  1. MAY 13

    defining your summer brand: the strategy session we all need

    Summer is officially approaching, and we’re treating it like a full strategy session. In this episode, Cole and Meag sit down to define their “summer brands” — the energy, habits, boundaries, goals, and experiences they actually want to bring into this season. From routines and wellness to friendships, dating, work, money, travel, and protecting your peace, this conversation is all about creating a summer that feels intentional instead of chaotic. We talk about: What last summer taught usThe habits we’re locking in before JuneBalancing fun with structureProtecting our energy and saying no more confidentlySummer spending, ambition, and realistic goalsDating and relationships with more intentionWhat a “good summer” actually looks like in this stage of lifeThe internal and external glow-ups we’re prioritizingThis episode feels like sitting down with your friends to map out the kind of summer you actually want — not the one social media tells you to have. Because maybe your best summer isn’t about doing the most. Maybe it’s about feeling the most like yourself.

    41 min

  2. MAY 6

    chronic illness, identity shifts and starting over: when your body changes the rules

    In this episode, we sit down with our longtime friend Sarah McLaren for a deeply honest conversation about chronic illness, identity, ambition, and what happens when your body changes the direction of your life. After getting COVID in 2021, Sarah began experiencing debilitating symptoms including vertigo, extreme fatigue, shortness of breath, cognitive challenges, and sensory overload. What followed was years of searching for answers, navigating the realities of long COVID, and grieving the version of herself she thought she’d always be. Together, we talk about the emotional side of invisible illness, the pressure to remain “high functioning,” and the fear of being perceived differently when your capacity changes. We also explore how health challenges can reshape your relationship with work, success, ambition, and self-worth. This episode is for anyone who has ever felt disconnected from the person they used to be, struggled to ask for help, or realized they can’t simply “push through” anymore. Topics discussed: Long COVID and invisible illnessGrief and identity shiftsRedefining ambition in your 30sCorporate culture and chronic health challengesThe emotional toll of being “high capacity”Recovery, resilience, and rebuilding your lifeIf you’ve ever felt disconnected from the version of yourself you used to be, we hope this conversation reminds you that you’re not alone in the rebuilding.

    43 min

  3. APR 29

    decentering work without losing yourself

    In this episode, we’re getting honest about something a lot of us don’t want to admit… work isn’t just what we do, it’s who we are. As women in our 30s who have spent years building careers we’re proud of, we’ve also built lives where everything else seems to revolve around them. Our time, our energy, our relationships, even how we see ourselves. And at some point, you start to ask… is this actually working? We dive into the idea of “decentering work” and what it really means to untangle your identity from your career without losing your ambition. Because it’s not as simple as just caring less. For many of us, work sits at the centre of everything. We also explore the concept of the Wheel of Life and how, in reality, it often looks less like a balanced circle and more like a life where work dictates every other category. From love and friendships to health, fun, and personal growth, we talk about what gets left behind when work takes over. And then we ask the question that stayed with us long after we stopped recording: If you were offered a soft life, would you actually take it? This is a conversation about identity, ambition, burnout, and redefining success on your own terms. It’s messy, honest, and very much something we’re still figuring out in real time. If you’ve ever felt like your worth is tied to your productivity, or wondered who you are outside of what you achieve, this one’s for you.

    1 hr

  4. APR 22

    climbing cringe mountain: how to build real community as an adult with maggie hildebrand

    This week, we’re joined by Maggie Hildebrand — founder of Connection Collective — and honestly… a bit of a real-life reminder that the life you want might not exist yet because you’re the one meant to create it. After moving from the East Coast to Toronto, Maggie found herself feeling something a lot of us quietly experience but don’t always say out loud: making real friends as an adult is hard. Like… really hard. So instead of waiting for it to magically happen, she did something bold (and slightly unhinged, in the best way): she hosted a picnic for strangers. That one picnic turned into a movement. Now, Maggie runs a full-time community designed to help women build deep, meaningful friendships in a city that can often feel isolating. In this episode, we get into what it actually takes to build connection, why in-person matters more than ever, and what happens when you decide to bet on yourself—even when it’s uncomfortable. We talk about: What it really feels like to start over in a new cityWhy making friends in your 20s and 30s feels so much harder“Climbing the cringe mountain” and putting yourself out there anywayTurning something personal into a business (without losing the heart of it)Taking the leap from a stable career into the unknownWhat it actually means to find your “calling”And why living well might just mean feeling excited about your life againThis episode is for anyone who’s ever felt a little lonely, a little stuck, or like something is missing—and is ready to do something about it. If you loved this episode, please send it to a friend. Or... take this as your sign to make the plan, host the dinner, or send the text. Be sure to follow Maggie and the Collective, and check out their website for upcoming events: @maggiehildebrand @connectioncollective.to https://www.connectioncollective.ca/

    55 min

  5. APR 1

    how to be a better friend to your friends with kids

    In this episode, we’re talking about something we’ve been thinking about a lot lately: what it actually means to be a good friend to friends who have kids—when that’s not your life. Because here’s the truth: You can love your friends deeply… and still not fully understand what they need. We’ve both had moments where we thought we were showing up well—only to realize there was a gap between our intentions and our impact. So today, we’re unpacking that. We talk about: Why “let me know how I can help” doesn’t actually helpThe subtle ways we (as non-parents) sometimes miss the markWhat’s really going on beneath the surface for friends with kidsHow friendships shift in your 30s—and how to evolve with themWhat being part of someone’s “village” actually looks like in real lifeThis isn’t about guilt or pressure. It’s about awareness, intention, and becoming a more thoughtful friend—without losing yourself in the process. Because being a villager isn’t about doing everything. It’s about choosing to show up… in ways that actually land.

    36 min

  6. MAR 25

    where did all the beginners go?

    In this episode, we’re talking about something that feels quietly true but hard to name: It feels like there’s no space to be a beginner anymore. At work, in dating, in friendships, even in who we’re becoming, there’s this underlying pressure to already be good. To already know. To already have it figured out. But that’s not how any of us actually got here. We unpack the idea that we may be optimizing for efficiency at the cost of development, especially in a world shaped by AI, rising expectations, and less tolerance for learning out loud. Inspired by a piece from Zoe Scaman, we explore what happens when the “beginner phase” starts to disappear, and why that might be affecting more of our lives than we realize. This episode is part career conversation, part life conversation, and part honest reflection on what it actually takes to grow into someone. We talk about: Why it feels like you’re expected to be good immediatelyHow AI and shifting workplaces are changing how people developThe loss of junior roles and what that means long termThe importance of mentorship and being allowed to learnHow this shows up in dating, friendships, and identityThe pressure to be polished versus the reality of being in progressWhy feeling “behind” might actually mean you’re right on timeAnd maybe most importantly: What it looks like to let yourself be a beginner again, even when the world makes that feel uncomfortable. If you’ve been feeling behind, unsure, or like everyone else got a manual you didn’t, this one is for you. The full article, The Pipeline Problem by Zoe Scaman can be found here: https://zoescaman.substack.com/p/the-pipeline-problem?r=9neiz&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true

    55 min

  7. MAR 18

    the problem isn’t your friends - it’s your expectations

    In this episode, we’re unpacking something that feels quietly true but rarely gets said out loud: We expect everything from our friends…but structure nothing around them. We want consistency, emotional depth, validation, fun, and growth, all from the same people. And when that doesn’t happen? We spiral, overanalyze, or send the long text. But at the same time… We don’t build our lives around friendship.We don’t prioritize it like we do romantic relationships.We accept that friends will “naturally drift.” So which is it? Are our friendships central to our lives, or just filling space until something else takes priority? In this episode, we talk about: Why modern friendship feels so high-pressure and low-structure The rise of “friendship performance reviews” Expecting one friend to be everything Why we invest more in romance than friendship Building a “friendship ecosystem” instead Letting friendships evolve without blowing them up What it actually looks like to prioritize friendship If you’ve ever felt disappointed in a friend, confused by shifting dynamics, or like you’re carrying too much in one relationship, this one’s for you. Because maybe the goal isn’t to find the perfect friend. Maybe it’s to build a life where friendship can actually breathe.

    47 min

  8. MAR 4

    the micro-griefs of modern dating

    In this week’s episode, we’re talking about something that doesn’t get named enough when it comes to dating in your 30s: the mini griefs. Dating at this stage of life often isn’t defined by one big heartbreak. It’s the accumulation of smaller moments — the almost relationships, the ghosting after momentum, the slow fades, and the future you briefly imagined that never quite happens. These micro-disappointments can quietly add up over time, leaving you feeling more guarded, more tired, and wondering why dating suddenly feels heavier than it used to. In this episode, we unpack why these moments hit differently in your 30s, how they shape the way we show up in dating, and how to build emotional resilience without becoming hardened or cynical. We talk about the difference between grieving the person versus the potential, why future-tripping can make disappointment harder, and how to process dating setbacks so they don’t linger longer than they need to. If you’ve ever found yourself thinking “Why does this feel like such a big deal when it wasn’t even a real relationship?” this conversation is for you. Because the goal isn’t to avoid disappointment. It’s to learn how to bounce back faster, stay open, and keep your life bigger than your dating life.

    42 min
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Two besties in our thirties. We're figuring it out with you.

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  • Creator
    Meag and Cole
  • Years Active
    2022 - 2026
  • Episodes
    139
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Meag and Cole
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