Jesus the Legend

Ken Sullivan

Welcome to Jesus the Legend! Join us as we celebrate the Good News of Jesus, and discover how His love changes everything. From diving deep into Scripture to personal testimonies, each episode explores the profound message of Jesus. Whether you're new to the faith or have been a follower for years, Jesus the Legend is here to celebrate the Truth that Jesus is the greatest news the world has ever known. "If I acted crazy, I did it for God; if I acted overly serious, I did it for you. Christ’s love has moved me to such extremes. His love has the first and last word in everything we do." MSG

  1. 6D AGO

    Episode 66: Graeme Carle (Part 1 of 2) - “A Conversation on “sort of” Annihilationism.”

    Welcome back to Jesus the Legend. I’m really happy to welcome back to the show my New Zealand friend, Graeme Carle. Graeme has been with us before and we had a great conversation about tithing—so if you haven’t listened to that one yet, I’d encourage you to go back to Episodes 39 and 40. I think you’ll really enjoy it. Graeme has been working in churches for years and he has also worked part-time in the oil industry as a logistics analyst. He has done work in Nepal, with a medical mission before moving to Colorado as a Bible teacher and ministry trainer. He’s worked with YWAM, done itinerant ministry, taught systematic theology, conducted seminars, and just about everything else you can imagine. Today, we’re going to do something a little outside what we’ve done on the show before. As you may or may not know, there are a few different theologies around eternity and what happens after we die—there’s the view of hell as eternal conscious torment, which most of us are familiar with; ultimate reconciliation, which is where I would land, believing that God’s ultimate plan is to restore all of humanity; and then there’s annihilationism. I mentioned to Graeme the last time he was here that it would be interesting to have him on to talk about that perspective—not to argue or debate, but just to hear that side. And wherever you find yourself on these things, it’s good to remember—it’s not our views on eternity or the end times that get us into heaven, it’s Jesus. So we can have these conversations, love each other and rest easy. Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

    43 min
  2. APR 16

    Episode 62: David Artman (Part 2 of 2) - “Stump the Universalist: Hell Edition.”

    Hey everyone, welcome back to Jesus the Legend! I am so happy to say that we have David Artman back with us! David is a husband, banjo player, minister, and one of the leading voices in the world of Christian universalism. After more than 30 years in pastoral ministry, he’s now focusing on podcasting and engaging in the bigger spiritual conversations happening today. He’s the author of Grace Saves All: The Necessity of Christian Universalism where he makes the case that God’s grace ultimately redeems all people—not as a stretch of Scripture, but as its most beautiful fulfillment. Through his podcast, Grace Saves All – Christianity and Universal Salvation, he explores the depth of God’s love with theologians, pastors, and seekers alike. I’ve had David on the show before, and he’s just a great guy who’s genuinely passionate about sharing the good news that God’s grace is bigger than we’ve often imagined, and that His mercy truly endures forever. This time, though, we’re mixing things up a bit. Today we’re going to play a game I like to call “Stump the Universalist.” I’ll be stepping into the role of someone who believes in eternal conscious torment (which, to be clear, I definitely don’t—not even a little), and I’ll throw some commonly used Scriptures his way. Then we’ll let David walk us through how he understands them. It should make for a really fun—and helpful - conversation. So settle in and let’s see if we can put the Christian Universalist on the spot… Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

    47 min
  3. APR 9

    Episode 61: David Artman (Part 1 of 2) - “Stump the Universalist: Hell Edition.”

    Hey everyone, welcome back to Jesus the Legend! I am so happy to say that we have David Artman back with us! David is a husband, banjo player, minister, and one of the leading voices in the world of Christian universalism. After more than 30 years in pastoral ministry, he’s now focusing on podcasting and engaging in the bigger spiritual conversations happening today. He’s the author of Grace Saves All: The Necessity of Christian Universalism where he makes the case that God’s grace ultimately redeems all people—not as a stretch of Scripture, but as its most beautiful fulfillment. Through his podcast, Grace Saves All – Christianity and Universal Salvation, he explores the depth of God’s love with theologians, pastors, and seekers alike. I’ve had David on the show before, and he’s just a great guy who’s genuinely passionate about sharing the good news that God’s grace is bigger than we’ve often imagined, and that His mercy truly endures forever. This time, though, we’re mixing things up a bit. Today we’re going to play a game I like to call “Stump the Universalist.” I’ll be stepping into the role of someone who believes in eternal conscious torment (which, to be clear, I definitely don’t—not even a little), and I’ll throw some commonly used Scriptures his way. Then we’ll let David walk us through how he understands them. It should make for a really fun—and helpful - conversation. So settle in and let’s see if we can put the Christian Universalist on the spot… Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

    47 min
  4. APR 2

    Episode 60: “Keith Giles & Stuart Delony (Part 2 of 2) - Rapture or Crapture - Truth or Fantasy?”

    Hey everyone, welcome to Jesus the Legend. I’m really glad you’re here. Today’s conversation is one I’ve been looking forward to for a while because I think this is going to be a really honest and hope-filled chat PLUS I’ve got a couple of great guests joining me! Keith Giles who has been with us before - is a writer, speaker, and former pastor, best known for his work exploring the teachings of Jesus through a lens of grace, peace, and inclusion. After stepping away from traditional ministry, he’s focused on helping people rethink faith beyond fear-based theology and rediscover the radical love at the heart of the gospel. He’s the author of the Jesus Un series, Reading Romans Right, Sola Mysterium and a tonne of others, plus he’s a familiar voice across multiple podcasts, where he regularly engages conversations around nonviolence, and the nature of God. Stuart Deloney is a writer, podcaster, and former pastor, best known as the voice behind Snarky Faith—a platform where satire meets spirituality. After years in ministry, he stepped away from the pulpit to explore faith using humor, storytelling, and cultural critique to challenge the excesses and assumptions of modern Christianity. He’s also a contributor to platforms like Patheos and The Quollective, co-host of The Unlearning Curve podcast—and the author of The Tribulation Survival Guide, which is full-on satire. In this episode, we’re diving into the topic of the rapture—where this idea came from, why it’s become so widely believed, and whether it really holds up biblically. More importantly, we’re going to explore a more hope-filled and Christ-centered way of understanding the future—one that reflects the goodness of God and the heart of the gospel. Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

    31 min
  5. MAR 26

    Episode 59: “Keith Giles & Stuart Delony (Part 1 of 2) - Rapture or Crapture - Truth or Fantasy?”

    Hey everyone, welcome to Jesus the Legend. I’m really glad you’re here. Today’s conversation is one I’ve been looking forward to for a while because I think this is going to be a really honest and hope-filled chat PLUS I’ve got a couple of great guests joining me! Keith Giles who has been with us before - is a writer, speaker, and former pastor, best known for his work exploring the teachings of Jesus through a lens of grace, peace, and inclusion. After stepping away from traditional ministry, he’s focused on helping people rethink faith beyond fear-based theology and rediscover the radical love at the heart of the gospel. He’s the author of the Jesus Un series, Reading Romans Right, Sola Mysterium and a tonne of others, plus he’s a familiar voice across multiple podcasts, where he regularly engages conversations around nonviolence, and the nature of God. Stuart Deloney is a writer, podcaster, and former pastor, best known as the voice behind Snarky Faith—a platform where satire meets spirituality. After years in ministry, he stepped away from the pulpit to explore faith using humor, storytelling, and cultural critique to challenge the excesses and assumptions of modern Christianity. He’s also a contributor to platforms like Patheos and The Quollective, co-host of The Unlearning Curve podcast—and the author of The Tribulation Survival Guide, which is full-on satire. In this episode, we’re diving into the topic of the rapture—where this idea came from, why it’s become so widely believed, and whether it really holds up biblically. More importantly, we’re going to explore a more hope-filled and Christ-centered way of understanding the future—one that reflects the goodness of God and the heart of the gospel. Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

    33 min

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Welcome to Jesus the Legend! Join us as we celebrate the Good News of Jesus, and discover how His love changes everything. From diving deep into Scripture to personal testimonies, each episode explores the profound message of Jesus. Whether you're new to the faith or have been a follower for years, Jesus the Legend is here to celebrate the Truth that Jesus is the greatest news the world has ever known. "If I acted crazy, I did it for God; if I acted overly serious, I did it for you. Christ’s love has moved me to such extremes. His love has the first and last word in everything we do." MSG

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