Law of Code

Jacob Robinson

Understand the legal layer of emerging technology. Conversations with top lawyers, regulators, and entrepreneurs on the laws and policy decisions shaping our future.

  1. 8 sept.

    #209 - Vaults

    Vaults might be finance's next trillion-dollar opportunity. But what are they? How do they work? What regulation might apply? You'll hear from the creator of crypto vaults, Andre Cronje (Flying Tulip, Yearn), alongside builders Adrian Cachinero Vasiljevic (Steakhouse Financial) and Charles St. Louis (Ethereum Foundation). You'll also hear from SEC Commissioner Hester Peirce and top lawyers Lewis Cohen (Cahill), Tuongvy Le (Veda Labs), Rodrigo Seira (Cooley) and Linda Jeng (Aave). Thank you to the presenting sponsor of this episode, Altitude (altitude.xyz/law), a payments platform for the next generation. This should be the internet's best podcast on vaults. You don't need to be a lawyer, developer or finance expert to follow along. Timestamps: (0:00) Intro (4:27) What is a vault? (9:34) History of onchain vaults (11:55) The first vault, with Andre Cronje (21:05) The SEC's early interest (22:30) Investment contracts and Howey (31:28) Notes and Reves (37:10) The strategist (48:54) The curator (58:30) Investment company? (1:12:40) Investment adviser? (1:20:00) Separately managed accounts (1:30:30) Custody rules (1:55:43) What's next Thank you as well to the law firm Cahill Gordon & Reindel for sponsoring this podcast. If you'd like to join Cahill's flagship emerging tech conference, Confluence, you can apply here: https://www.cahill.com/confluence2026. Thank you as well to the Solana Policy Institute and the Hyperliquid Policy Center for supporting the podcast. Nothing in this podcast is legal or investment advice.

  2. 1 sept.

    Interview: SEC Commissioner Hester Peirce on Reg Crypto

    Commissioner Hester Peirce joins the podcast to discuss Regulation Crypto Assets, as well as secondary market trading, DePIN and vaults. If you haven't listened to the full Reg Crypto explainer, that's episode 207. This episode is presented by Altitude. Visit altitude.xyz/law to learn more about their financial operating system. Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 2:22 Secondary transactions 3:23 Promises and representations 5:05 Essential managerial efforts 8:27 Regulatory arbitrage 10:29 Form TR 16:59 Existing token projects and Form TR 18:27 Compliance costs 21:48 Secondary markets 24:12 DePIN 27:02 Vaults 35:31 Accredited investors 40:25 Tokens and equity Thank you to the other sponsors of this episode: Cahill Gordon & Reindel, the Solana Policy Institute and the Hyperliquid Policy Center. On Thursday, September 24, 2026, CahillNXT will host Confluence 2026, its flagship conference, in New York City. This year's theme, Leading the NXT Frontier, brings together regulators, institutional investors, founders, policymakers and industry leaders to examine digital assets, market structure, regulation and the emerging technologies transforming financial markets. To register your interest, email events@cahill.com. Newsletter: Stay updated on emerging tech law for free at lawofcode.fm. Any feedback on this episode? Or how to improve the podcast? Click here: https://forms.gle/yFFN66e8iy8shQkAA Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute legal or investment advice. Commissioner Peirce's views are her own and do not necessarily represent those of the SEC or her fellow Commissioners. Listening to this podcast does not create an attorney-client relationship.

  3. 28 août

    Interview: The GRANITE Act, explained by Preston Byrne

    The GRANITE Act is a two-and-a-half-page bill designed to stop foreign governments from censoring Americans online. Preston Byrne, the Managing Partner at Byrne & Storm, has spent over a decade advising tech companies on free speech questions. His work was instrumental in the introduction of the GRANITE Act in the U.S. House of Representatives on August 27, 2026. Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 2:10 How foreign governments censor Americans 3:34 The origins of sovereign immunity 6:40 197 demands, 4 refusals 8:58 Sovereign immunity in the courts 10:58 The GRANITE Act shield 12:37 The GRANITE Act sword 17:20 Where GRANITE stands in the states, House and Senate This episode is presented by Altitude. Visit altitude.xyz/law to understand why. Thank you to the other sponsors of this episode: Cahill Gordon & Reindel, the Solana Policy Institute and the Hyperliquid Policy Center. Preston's Blog Post: https://prestonbyrne.com/2026/08/28/rulligranite/ GRANITE Act: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/10174/text?s=1&r=1&hl=granite Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute legal or investment advice. Views expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of their employers. Listening to this podcast does not create an attorney-client relationship.

  4. 25 août

    #208 - Reg Crypto

    What is Regulation Crypto Assets? An SEC-led rule proposal that allows projects to raise capital in the U.S. by selling tokens. That's the short answer. The long answer is this podcast. By the end of this episode, you'll understand why these rules were needed, what they say and what could still be tweaked before they become law. This episode is presented by Altitude, visit ⁠altitude.xyz/law⁠ to learn more about their financial operating system. You'll hear from leading lawyers, almost all of whom are cited in the footnotes of the SEC's own proposal: Lewis Cohen, partner at Cahill Gordon & ReindelSarah Brennan, general counsel at Delphi DigitalGabe Shapiro, co-founder and CEO of MetaLeXRodrigo Seira, partner at CooleyMiles Jennings, general counsel at a16z cryptoAndrew Hinkes, partner at Winston Taylor Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 4:17 How we got here 6:53 Solving two problems 10:21 Reg A, Reg CF and Reg D 12:10 Five subparts of Reg Crypto 14:12 Who will use these? 18:08 The Startup Exemption 19:35 Rule 103 disclosures 21:03 LBRY and silence 30:14 Secondary markets and Telegram 34:13 The Fundraising Exemption 42:21 Why Reg A and Reg CF failed 48:14 Rule 400: Exit 50:23 Third-party problems 57:34 Under-promising 1:02:08 Essential managerial efforts 1:12:09 The state of crypto 1:15:13 State law questions 1:20:37 What's next? Thank you to the sponsors of this episode: Cahill Gordon & Reindel, the Solana Policy Institute and the Hyperliquid Policy Center. To get in touch with the Cahill team about how any issues discussed in this episode apply to your situation, email mtomsky@cahill.com. Newsletter: Stay updated on emerging tech law for free at lawofcode.fm. Any feedback on this episode? Or how to improve the podcast? Click here: https://forms.gle/yFFN66e8iy8shQkAA. Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute legal or investment advice. Views expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of their employers. Listening to this podcast does not create an attorney-client relationship.

  5. 10 août

    Interview: OSC CEO Grant Vingoe on Crypto in Canada, Part II

    Grant Vingoe is the CEO of the Ontario Securities Commission, Canada's largest securities regulator. Grant explains Canada's approach to crypto and why he sees a careful, incremental approach as a strength. Law of Code is presented by Altitude, visit https://altitude.xyz/law to learn why. Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 0:55 From 30 years in New York to running the OSC 5:49 How the CSA and Canada's provincial regulators fit together 9:01 The crypto contract 12:34 Grant's first exposure to crypto 16:09 The gamification of financial markets and prediction markets 21:22 Making crypto safer for Canadians, from ETFs onward 26:30 Stablecoins 29:52 The Stablecoin Act and federal regulators 35:02 The $30,000 purchase limit 38:18 How industry can better engage regulators 45:02 Canada's brain drain question 50:34 Modernizing the regulation of public companies 54:17 Permissionless finance 1:01:13 Accredited investor rules Thank you to our other sponsors: McCarthy Tétrault LLP, with which I am co-hosting a Crypto in Canada event on August 12, 2026 in Toronto: https://luma.com/89qnrnah Osler, Hoskin & Harcourt LLP: https://www.osler.com/en/expertise/services/digital-assets-and-blockchain/ Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP: https://www.cahill.com/practices/litigation-digital-assets-and-emerging-technology Solana Policy Institute: https://www.solanapolicyinstitute.org/ Hyperliquid Policy Center: https://hyperliquidpolicy.org/ Sign up for the free Law of Code newsletter at lawofcode.fm.

  6. 10 août

    #207 - Crypto in Canada

    How does Canada regulate crypto? This podcast answers that in less than 60 minutes. You'll hear from Grant Vingoe, CEO of the OSC, Eric Richmond, CEO of Coinbase Canada, the Bank of Canada's Anne Butler, McCarthy's Lori Stein, Osler's Matt Burgoyne, Evan Thomas, Dr. Ryan Clements of the ASC and Blair Wiley of Wealthsimple. Law of Code is presented by Altitude, visit ⁠https://altitude.xyz/law⁠ to learn why. Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 2:42 Tax 4:53 AML Rules 8:06 Securities 12:00 Investment contracts 16:13 Quadriga's collapse 23:00 The Crypto Contract 34:29 World's first Bitcoin ETF 38:23 Stablecoins 46:47 Where Canada could play offense: DeFi, perps and tokenization 52:53 The speed problem Nothing in this podcast is legal or investment advice. Thank you to our other sponsors: McCarthy Tétrault LLP, with which I am co-hosting a Crypto in Canada event on August 12, 2026 in Toronto: https://luma.com/89qnrnah Osler, Hoskin & Harcourt LLP: https://www.osler.com/en/expertise/services/digital-assets-and-blockchain/ Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP: ⁠https://www.cahill.com/practices/litigation-digital-assets-and-emerging-technology⁠ Solana Policy Institute: ⁠https://www.solanapolicyinstitute.org/⁠ Hyperliquid Policy Center: ⁠https://hyperliquidpolicy.org/⁠ Sign up for the free Law of Code newsletter at lawofcode.fm.

  7. 6 août

    Interview: Legora's Kyle Poe on the Future of AI & Law Firms

    Kyle Poe is a former BigLaw partner and currently VP of Legal Innovation and Strategy at Legora, a legal AI startup valued at $5.6 billion. Kyle explains why he sees a generational reordering happening in the legal profession, how firms are best institutionalizing partner knowledge as IP, and where the moat exists for lawyers as AI grows in ubiquity. Law of Code is presented by Altitude, visit https://altitude.xyz/law to learn why. Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 0:56 The billable hour and the incentive problem inside firms 2:36 Institutionalizing partner knowledge as firm IP 4:02 Why partner buyouts are accelerating 5:56 Why AI is different from the internet and email 9:31 How top firms are operationalizing AI 12:35 Building innovation teams from the top down 14:37 More lawyers or fewer? The future of demand 19:20 Grinders, minders and finders 22:10 What lawyers should be asking about AI 25:13 Legora's moat Thank you to our other sponsors: Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP: https://www.cahill.com/practices/litigation-digital-assets-and-emerging-technology Solana Policy Institute: https://www.solanapolicyinstitute.org/ Hyperliquid Policy Center: https://hyperliquidpolicy.org/ Sign up for the free Law of Code newsletter at lawofcode.fm.

  8. 27 juill.

    #206 - How lawyers are using AI in 2026

    By the end of this episode, you'll understand how lawyers are actually AI maxxing in 2026, and how you can, too. Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 1:58 Why it's the best time to be a lawyer 3:03 Hallucinations and cognitive surrender 5:33 Quality over efficiency 8:13 Why AI upends legal work 15:20 60% of contracts filed to EDGAR have mistakes 20:04 How LLMs actually work 25:59 Zero data retention, explained 29:16 The privacy risk beyond training 39:16 How to prompt 47:03 Michael Showalter's AI-native litigation stack 55:27 Spellbook's Compare to Market Feature 1:03:10 Building a regulatory agent 1:09:50 The judgment crisis for junior lawyers 1:12:15 Cooley's AI training method You'll hear from 10 people at the cutting edge of legal AI: Zack Shapiro, Founder and Managing Partner at Rains LLPMolly Abraham, General Counsel at CoinbaseSujit Raman, Chief Legal Officer at TRM LabsMichael Showalter, Founder of Showalter PLLCErich Dylus, attorney, programmer and creator of CamoTextAaron Kelly, General Counsel and open source AI expertDavid Wang, Chief Innovation Officer at CooleyScott Stevenson, CEO of SpellbookJustin McCallon, CEO of StrongSuitSamson Enzer, Partner at Cahill Gordon & Reindel This episode is presented by Altitude, visit altitude.xyz/law to learn more about their financial operating system. Newsletter: Stay updated on emerging tech law for free at lawofcode.fm. Any feedback on this episode? Or how to improve the podcast? Click here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1QAcE1sQAKZIkma20DbyB5frgKdiK8UB6Fkb6CwaVP1I/edit Sponsors: Thank you to the Hyperliquid Policy Center and Solana Policy Institute for supporting this podcast. To get in touch with the Cahill team about how any issues discussed in this episode apply to your situation, email mtomsky@cahill.com. Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute legal or investment advice. Views expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of their employers. Listening to this podcast does not create an attorney-client relationship.

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Understand the legal layer of emerging technology. Conversations with top lawyers, regulators, and entrepreneurs on the laws and policy decisions shaping our future.

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  • Créateur
    Jacob Robinson
  • Années d’activité
    2021 - 2026
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    198
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