Leading Through Crisis with Céline Williams

Celine Williams

Leading Through Crisis is the podcast for leaders who aren’t afraid to face the hard stuff head-on. Hosted by leadership and culture expert Céline Williams, each episode offers real, unfiltered conversations with business trailblazers, change-makers, and truth-tellers. From navigating uncertainty to building cultures that actually work for humans, Céline delves into the messy realities of leadership, while also offering practical tools you can use today to lead with more clarity, connection, and courage.

  1. APR 16

    Cultivating Deeper Connections at Work: Community-Building Strategies to Address Loneliness with Charles Vogl

    In this episode of Leading Through Crisis, Céline Williams sits down with Charles Vogl—leadership advisor, speaker, and author of The Art of Community—to challenge what we think we know about connection, adaptability, and resilience. Together, they explore: - Why most “team building” and networking fails - The difference between connection vs. proximity - How leaders can create real community (not just groups) - Why resilience is NOT an individual skill - The hidden mental health and loneliness crisis impacting organizations - The concept of “campfire experiences” and how they transform teams - Why phones, distractions, and forced fun are quietly destroying connection Charles shares powerful insights from his work with organizations like Airbnb, Google, and the U.S. Army, revealing why strong relationships, not individual performance, are the foundation of leadership in high-stakes environments. They also debunk some common assumptions and biases around connection events, like: - People need to be entertained all the time - It should look good in a photograph - We can be fully present with the people in the room, with our phones and devices onIf you're a leader trying to cultivate deeper connections at work and build community and resilience on your team, this conversation is for you! --- Charles Vogl is an adviser, speaker, and the author of three books, including the international bestseller The Art of Community. He has worked with Google in several capacities, including as a trusted thought leader for the Google School for Leaders, which develops over 20,000 Google managers. His work is used to advise and develop leadership and programs worldwide within organizations, including Airbnb, LinkedIn, Twitch, Amazon, ServiceNow, Dow Inc. and the US Army. Charles holds an M.Div. from Yale, where he studied spiritual traditions, ethics, and business as a Jesse Ball duPont Foundation scholar. To learn more about his work, download free community-building resources, and grab copies of his books, head to charlesvogl.com. You can also connect with him on LinkedIn and Instagram (@charlesvogl).

    59 min
  2. APR 2

    Resilient Leadership Under Pressure | Courage, Clarity & Values with Zolal Habibi

    What does leadership look like in moments of sustained uncertainty, high pressure, and constant change? In this episode of Leading Through Crisis, Céline Williams speaks with Iranian human rights advocate Zolal Habibi about what it means to lead with clarity, courage, and conviction, especially when the cost of staying true to your values is high. Drawing on her personal journey and decades of connection to Iran’s evolving social and political landscape, Zolal reflects on the leadership principles that sustain individuals and movements through prolonged periods of challenge. From the importance of standing firmly in your values to the role of personal responsibility in shaping collective outcomes, this conversation explores how leaders can stay grounded when navigating complexity and uncertainty. Zolal shares perspectives on resilience, long-term thinking, and the power of purpose, alongside reflections on the role of women in leadership, the impact of lived values versus stated ideals, and how individuals can contribute meaningfully even in the face of overwhelming circumstances. Together, they unpack questions that resonate far beyond any one context: How do you lead when the path forward is unclear? What does it take to remain anchored in your principles under pressure? How can individuals create meaningful change, even in difficult environments? This episode is a thoughtful and nuanced exploration of leadership in times of crisis, offering insights for business owners, managers, and leaders navigating change in their own organizations and lives. — Zolal Habibi is an Iranian human rights activist and a leading voice for justice, democracy, and women’s rights in Iran. She serves on the Foreign Affairs Committee of the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI), where she works with policymakers, journalists, and international institutions to amplify the call for a free, secular, and democratic Iran.  For more than two decades, she has been a steadfast advocate for those silenced inside Iran—particularly women, youth, and political prisoners—bringing their stories to global platforms. Zolal’s commitment to this cause is deeply personal. When she was just seven years old, her father, a respected writer and political dissident, was killed by the Iranian regime in the summer of 1988; a summer marked by the massacre of 30,000 political prisoners in Iran. This tragedy shaped her life’s mission: to ensure that such crimes are neither forgotten nor repeated, and that the aspirations of the Iranian people for freedom and democracy are recognized worldwide.  Through her advocacy, media appearances, and international engagement, Zolal continues to champion the Iranian people’s struggle. To learn more, visit maryamrajavi4change.com or connect with Zolal on Instagram (@ashrafi4ever) or LinkedIn (linkedin.com/in/zolalhabibi/).

    46 min
  3. MAR 12

    Push vs Pull Leadership: How Great Leaders Unlock Team Potential During Crisis with Ernesto Gomez

    In this episode of Leading Through Crisis, host Céline Williams sits down with Ernesto Gómez, founder and CEO of Aspen Mindset1 and author of Regrowth: How Organizations Can Overcome Stalling by Unlocking Their People’s Potential. Together, they explore how leaders can navigate today’s complex landscape—where crises are no longer occasional events but an ongoing reality. Ernesto shares powerful insights on why organizations stall, how culture can either enable or block change, and why the real driver of performance lies within teams. He introduces the concept of “push vs. pull leadership” and explains how great leaders unlock potential not by applying pressure, but by creating the right conditions for people to thrive. Through real-world examples and practical frameworks, the conversation explores how leaders can rethink their approach to decision-making, innovation, and team development in an era of accelerating change. You’ll learn: • Why crisis is becoming the new normal for leaders • The three layers of organizations: products, capabilities, and culture • How team dynamics drive organizational performance • The difference between push leadership vs pull leadership • Four cultural pillars that unlock team performance • Why humility and psychological safety are critical leadership traits • A practical framework for moving from stagnation to regrowth If you're a leader navigating uncertainty, building high-performing teams, or trying to drive change in a rapidly evolving world, this conversation offers a fresh perspective on how leadership must evolve. — Ernesto Gómez is a seasoned executive with over 30 years of experience, having built and led successful ventures across the food service industry in both the US and Mexico. Transitioning from a dynamic serial entrepreneur to a high-level corporate leader, he served as VP of Human Capital at Grupo Alfa, a major Mexican conglomerate with 83,000 employees, before becoming Chief Human Resources Officer at Sigma Alimentos, a global consumer packaged goods company with 43,000 employees. In these roles, he spearheaded global talent and cultural initiatives, playing a pivotal role in organizational transformation.  Ernesto is the author of Regrowth: How Organizations Can Overcome Stalling by Unlocking Their People’s Potential. Ernesto is a lifelong learner.  He studied social communications and has completed executive programs at leading institutions, including Stanford GSB, MIT Sloan School of Management, Wharton Business School, Kellogg School of Management, Chicago Booth, London Business School, and IMD Business School.  He is the founder and CEO of Aspen Mindset1, a consulting firm dedicated to helping organizations and individuals reach peak performance. In 2024, Ernesto was invited as a guest speaker in the "Lead through Ambiguity" course at MIT Sloan School of Management. To learn more about Ernesto’s work, head to aspenmindset1.com. You can also connect with him on LinkedIn (Ernesto Gómez Arzapalo) or Instagram (@aspenmindset_1).

    44 min
  4. FEB 12

    You Don’t Need All the Answers: How Leaders Build Trust During Uncertain Times with Amy Riley

    When organizations face crises, change, or uncertainty, many leaders feel pressure to withdraw, control the narrative, or pretend they have all the answers. Unfortunately, those behaviors often become the very trust breakers that damage teams and fuel fear. In this episode of Leading Through Crisis, Céline Williams sits down with leadership development expert and bestselling author Amy Riley to explore how leaders can build trust during uncertain times—even when they don’t know what comes next.  They discuss why transparency matters, how silence creates stories, and what it truly means to lead with connection instead of control. This conversation is essential for leaders, managers, and business owners navigating disruption, change, or high-pressure environments. 🔑 Key Topics: - One of the biggest leadership mistakes made during crisis - Why leaders don’t need all the answers - Trust breakers to avoid  - Leading with connection, not control - How to rebuild trust after a misstep --- Amy L. Riley is an internationally renowned speaker, author and consultant. She has over 2 decades of experience developing leaders at all levels. Her clients include Cisco Systems, Barclays and Google Drive.  Amy earned a Master of Science in Training and Development (MSTD), with an emphasis in Organization Development (OD), from Loyola University in Chicago, Illinois. She is a Certified Professional Behavioral Analyst (CPBA), a certified Lead True Coach and is certified in the Myers-Briggs Type Instrument.  Her #1 international best-selling book is entitled "The Courage of a Leader: How to Inspire, Engage and Get Extraordinary Results." Learn more and grab the book at: courageofaleader.com Or connect with Amy on LinkedIn (linkedin.com/in/amyshoopriley) or Instagram (@courageofaleader).

    31 min
  5. JAN 22

    Playing the Hand You Are Dealt with John Kippen

    Building Resilience, Confidence, and Human Connection In this episode of Leading Through Crisis, John Kippen, a professional magician + resilience and empowerment coach, shares his powerful story of surviving a life-threatening brain tumor, living with facial paralysis, and rebuilding confidence through creativity, magic, and human connection.  He and Céline unpack practical tools for emotional regulation, mindset shifts, and navigating uncertainty without fear.  This conversation is a profound reminder that resilience is built and crisis can become an opportunity for growth and impact. Whether you’re a business owner, executive, or leader navigating uncertainty, change, or burnout, this episode will challenge you to rethink failure, step outside your comfort zone, and reconnect with what truly matters. Key topics covered: ▪️Leading through crisis vs. long-term adversity ▪️Building resilience and emotional regulation under pressure ▪️Confidence, failure, and mindset in leadership ▪️The power of authenticity and human connection ▪️Turning personal crisis into purpose and impact A special offer for our listeners… 📘 Download John's bestselling book Playing the Hand You Are Dealt via johnkippen.com/freegift — John Kippen is a Speaker, Professional Magician, and Resilience and Empowerment Coach whose motto is, “Being different is your superpower.“ John helps his clients challenge their limiting beliefs to achieve their dreams and bounce back quickly from adversity. 💻 Learn more at johnkippen.com or connect with him on Facebook and Instagram.

    56 min
  6. 2025-12-11

    Future-Ready: Equipping Leaders for Multigenerational Teams and Conflict with Bob Chonka & Jon Grannis

    In this episode, Bob Chonka and Jon Grannis of Sollah Interactive chat with us about one of the biggest issues facing organizations today: Are leaders truly equipped to guide their teams through challenging times and whatever comes next?  You'll hear:  - How leadership expectations have shifted with the rise of millennial leaders - About the impact of technology on communication, and why relevance, realism, and relatability matter more than ever We explore the role of healthy conflict, why unresolved tension creates dysfunction, and how organizations can build cultures where communication, collaboration, and psychological safety thrive. Finally, we discuss:  - FOBO (the fear of becoming obsolete), especially among older generations - How to break knowledge-hoarding behaviors - Why mistakes should be leveraged instead of punished -Why microlearning courses are the future of developing soft skills in a fast-paced, distracted workforce Whether you lead a team, run an organization, or simply want to future-proof your career, this episode delivers practical, immediately applicable insights for staying strong, relevant, and equipped for whatever challenges come next. --- Sollah provides fast, flexible workplace compliance and soft skills training solutions. We design for all training platforms and modalities, helping organizations aim their message, fulfill their learning goals, and achieve performance improvement by taking into account their audience, implementation needs, and ultimate performance objectives. Learn more at sollah.com and connect with them on all social platforms @sollahinteractive.

    34 min
  7. 2025-11-14

    Leading Through Crisis: Finding Courage and Purpose in Chaos with Evan Mawarire

    What does it mean to lead through crisis—not just survive it, but transform through it?  In this gripping and inspiring conversation, Zimbabwean pastor and global advocate Evan Mawarire shares how one simple video turned into a national movement that changed the course of Zimbabwe’s history. As founder of the viral #ThisFlag campaign, Evan rallied 12 million citizens to stand up for justice in one of Africa’s most oppressive regimes. Join us for a powerful conversation about courage, purpose, and becoming who you’re meant to be through adversity. This is an episode for leaders, executives, and change-makers who want to understand how to act with conviction when the world feels out of control, and how crisis can be the very thing that unwraps your greatest potential. In this conversation, we explore: Why destiny isn’t a destination, but something that unfolds from withinHow to take action when you don’t have a full planWhy failure shapes us more than success ever couldHow to find courage and purpose in the middle of chaosEvan’s story is a reminder that leadership is not about control, it’s about presence, conviction, and compassion. Whether you’re leading a team, a company, or your own life, this episode will help you see crisis not as a setback, but as the portal to your next level. — Evan Mawarire is a Zimbabwean pastor, speaker, and global advocate for human rights and democracy. In 2016, his heartfelt call for justice sparked the #ThisFlag movement, inspiring millions to take a stand against corruption and injustice in Zimbabwe. His courageous leadership led to multiple arrests and treason charges, but his unwavering commitment to non-violent activism made him an international symbol of resilience and change. A recipient of numerous global honors, including recognition as one of Foreign Policy Magazine’s Top 100 Global Thinkers, Evan has held fellowships at Stanford, Yale, and Johns Hopkins University. His book, Crazy Epic Courage, captures his extraordinary journey from faith leader to political prisoner, offering powerful lessons on courage and leadership. Learn more and grab the book at www.evanmawarire.org.  You can also connect with him on LinkedIn, Facebook or Instagram (@pastorevanlive).

    37 min
  8. 2025-10-23

    Fear-Based Leadership: How to Spot It, Survive It, and Stay Powerful with Kate Lowry

    The workplace is changing fast. From economic uncertainty to cultural shifts and the rise of AI, business leaders are operating in a constant state of pressure, and a troubling leadership style is on the rise. In this episode, I sit down with CEO coach, venture capitalist, and author Kate Lowry to unpack what fear-based leadership looks like and how to protect yourself from it. We explore: - Why fear-based leadership is on the rise - How to spot a fear-based leader before you sign on - Tactical “upward management” techniques that actually work - The psychology behind leaders who operate through shame, manipulation, and control - Gendered differences in how fear-based leaders show up at work - The critical skillsets you must develop to thrive in today’s environment If you've ever felt gaslit, overworked, or subtly manipulated by someone in power, this episode is your blueprint for protection and empowerment. Listen now. “You are not powerless. You just need new tools for a new era of leadership.” — Kate Lowry is a CEO coach, venture capitalist, and author based in Silicon Valley. An expert in fear-based leaders, Kate developed her methodology growing up in a personal hierarchical family, then refined her approach in the elite worlds of start-ups, private equity, management consulting, and big tech at McKinsey, Meta, and Insight Partners. She is the author of Unbreakable: How to Thrive Under Fear-Based Leaders. In her free time, you can find her writing comedy and music and cuddling her service dog, Annie. Learn more and grab the book at: www.katelowry.com You can also connect with her on: LinkedIn Facebook Instagram

    36 min
5
out of 5
11 Ratings

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Leading Through Crisis is the podcast for leaders who aren’t afraid to face the hard stuff head-on. Hosted by leadership and culture expert Céline Williams, each episode offers real, unfiltered conversations with business trailblazers, change-makers, and truth-tellers. From navigating uncertainty to building cultures that actually work for humans, Céline delves into the messy realities of leadership, while also offering practical tools you can use today to lead with more clarity, connection, and courage.